ESPN 980/Rotoworld: James Davis AWOL

[DarrellsMyHero28]

James Davis walks out on Redskins camp (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/playerbreakingnews.asp?sport=NFL&id=5173&line=209539&spln=1)


Redskins RB James Davis has reportedly walked out of training camp over dissatisfaction with his playing time and reps.
He would've been better off just asking the Redskins to waive him, instead of coming off as a player with an artificially inflated opinion of himself. Davis is reportedly "still MIA," and his absence is considered unexcused. The third-year running back was buried on the depth chart even with Ryan Torain out. Aug. 15 - 2:25 pm et
Source: Chris Russell on Twitter (http://www.tweetdeck.com/twitter/Russellmania980/%7EPP918)

On ESPN 980 they also reported Davis got into an argument with a coach at a film session over playing time and Mike Shannahan said he has no idea where Davis is.
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What a chump.

[Boston Skins]

Hopefully there's a reasonable explanation here, but he was probably the odd man out anyway.

[STBonecrusher21]

I mean he was a longshot anyway.

But this hurts his chances in the future getting picked up by another team.

[DarrellsMyHero28]

Hopefully there's a reasonable explanation here, but he was probably the odd man out anyway.

Doubtful. He gets into an argument with a coach, storms out of a film session and hasn't returned (forgot to put that into the OP).

Seems like an immature hothead to me.

[#BgMase76#]

most likely

[JohnnyUtah]

Well if he wasn't the odd man out then, he is now.

[Bubble Screen]

No loss. The guy sucks, anyway.

[SpacePenguin]

Why work your ass off in TC when you aren't getting reps or playing time regardless?

To watch the amazing Evan Royster get 15 carries? No thanks.

Hope he catches on somewhere and is given a legitimate chance to make a roster.

[Boston Skins]

Doubtful. He gets into an argument with a coach, storms out of a film session and hasn't returned (forgot to put that into the OP).

Seems like an immature hothead to me.

J. Davis and Carlos Zambrano should chill.

[Gracelander]

That's just terrible... who is he again?

[DarrellsMyHero28]

Why work your ass off in TC when you aren't getting reps or playing time regardless?

To watch the amazing Evan Royster get 15 carries? No thanks.

Hope he catches on somewhere and is given a legitimate chance to make a roster.

If you aren't going to get reps, ask to be released and go try out for other teams.

Don't act like a child.


J. Davis and Carlos Zambrano should chill.

:ols: They made the same joke on 980.

[Boss_Hogg]

Wow, he just ruined his chances with another NFL team.

[Boston Skins]

Why work your ass off in TC when you aren't getting reps or playing time regardless?

To watch the amazing Evan Royster get 15 carries? No thanks.

Hope he catches on somewhere and is given a legitimate chance to make a roster.

A legitimate chance? He didn't have that last year? This team was just begging for a RB to step up and play well. James Davis tried to hype himself up, but to no avail. I know that the offensive line wasn't great, but Davis showed little vision and was less than effective.

[NLC1054]

Why work your ass off in TC when you aren't getting reps or playing time regardless.

Hope he catches on somewhere and is given a legitimate chance to make the roster.

Football is a number's game, man. JD knew what he had to do to improve his chances of making the football team. Like I said, regardless of the situation, you don't yell at your coach during film study and walk off. That earns you zero respect from your team, your position coaches, your offensive coordinator or your head coach. You have to be a pro. It might've been better for Davis to talk to the coaches and see if he couldn't get traded or cut. When you've got legitimate depth on your football team like we do at running back, sometimes it's not going to work about.

But this kind of thing is a move that won't only screw his chances up of working out here, but going elsewhere. Who's going to sign him and push him up on the depth chart now? (Well, besides Philly, they'll sign anyone.) What team is he going to go to that's not going to ask him to block? And this is two coaching staff's he's gotten on the bad side of now.

He'll probably get released by first cuts now. Or, Mike being Mike, we'll hold on to him until week 4 and let him play a little, and then cut him. Either way, he just hurt his chances of helping the football team a lot.

[War Paint]

Who in the hell is James Davis lol? Seriously, I didn't even know who he was until I clicked this thread.

[nightbird]

Why work your ass off in TC when you aren't getting reps or playing time regardless?

A. Because it's your job.
B. Showing up on time and not storming out in a rage does not constitute "working your ass off."
C. Because the way to get playing time might be . . . . just MIGHT be . . . to show up and work hard.
D. Because if you want a job playing professional football -- for any team, in any league -- you may wish to conduct yourself as a professional.




To watch the amazing Evan Royster get 15 carries? No thanks.



It's well-known that Shanny believes in keeping RB's out there for long stretches at a time so they can get in a rhythm -- that's the only way to really evaluate an RB.

So while Royster got a long stretch in the first game, the next game he'll be on the bench while they showcase Helu and . . . .ummm, well not James Davis.




Hope he catches on somewhere and is given a legitimate chance to make a roster.

I don't care what happens to him -- he just cut himself from my team.

He's a quitter.

To use your words . . . "no thanks."

JD reminds me of some of the early 20-somethings here at my company. On their third day they're whining about being stuck in a lousy cubicle instead of the corner office.

[addicted]

Who in the hell is James Davis?
Oh ya that piece of crap running back that some here thought was so freaking exciting who came here last year and did absolutely jack crap when given ample opportunity to earn his spot?
Last year 7 games, 19 total rushes, less then 70 yards....

Man F him, fire his ass now. He's garbage with a bad attitude.
We are building something here and if some premadonna doesn't want to get on board and play ball then take your sorry ass to the corner and GTFO.
We don't need ya and we especially don't need any more douchebags with giant egos messing anything up
Anyone of them not on board can get out, send a message and cut him now

[Boston Skins]

Who in the hell is James Davis lol? Seriously, I didn't even know who he was until I clicked this thread.

You really don't remember the hype from when he was brought up from the practice squad last year? Against the Colts I think it was. He sucked.

[Destructis]

There is a right way of doing something and the wrong way. He chose the wrong way.

[wilco_holland]

Stupid, no teams wants a dude with that kind of attitude. Plax shot himself in the foot....Davis just did the same. ;)

[SpacePenguin]

If you aren't going to get reps, ask to be released and go try out for other teams.

Don't act like a child.
.


Like I said in the other thread, the tantrum was not a good move at all, for anyone. I can understand why he'd do it, but it's a very immature move that will likely hurt his career. I suspect the only reason he didn't ask to be released is because he wants to be here. It makes no sense otherwise, although this only makes sense if he's immature. Most people in their 20s are.

I already blew my load in the other thread, and since he's cut at this point anyways, not going to copy paste my reasoning.

Here's to Evan "Magicman" Royster.

[SkinsFTW]

Damn, i thought you meant Fred Davis for a second.

Who cares. This guy wasn't going to make it anyway.

[addicted]

Stupid, no teams wants a dude with that kind of attitude. Plax shot himself in the foot....Davis just did the same. ;)

Huge difference
Plax is extremely talented player
So everyone will give him a second chance

James Davis on the other hand is an overhyped piece of crap,
He's below average and no team is going to want him now
Take you ball and go home
We don't need ya

[SpacePenguin]

Who in the hell is James Davis?
Oh ya that piece of crap running back that some here thought was so freaking exciting who came here last year and did absolutely jack crap when given ample opportunity to earn his spot?
Last year 7 games, 19 total rushes, less then 70 yards....

Man F him, fire his ass now. He's garbage with a bad attitude.
We are building something here and if some premadonna doesn't want to get on board and play ball then take your sorry ass to the corner and GTFO.
We don't need ya and we especially don't need any more douchebags with giant egos messing anything up
Anyone of them not on board can get out, send a message and cut him now

How the **** is 19 carries in a season "ample oppurtunity"?

Man, you think you've seen it all.....haha

[Jethrodsp]

Why work your ass off in TC when you aren't getting reps or playing time regardless?

To watch the amazing Evan Royster get 15 carries? No thanks.

Hope he catches on somewhere and is given a legitimate chance to make a roster.

You're right, might as well just quit.

He'll be perfect for a team in the "Suck for Luck" race.

[addicted]

How the **** is 19 carries in a season "ample oppurtunity"?

Man, you think you've seen it all.....haha

Let me guess
Your one of those Jason Campbell supporters
Who would say after 50 career starts he didn't get an ample opportunity to show his skills here either?

I would point out to you outside of Ryan Torain our running game last year sucked donkey nuts
And that Torain missed 5 games after rolling off 2 very good outtings with that terrible offensive line
Both of those two games Torain had 100+ yard efforts, with said terrible line
And when Torain was hurt and missed those 5 games we searched desperately for another RB
Which led us to bring up Davis
And gave him more then enough chance to show he could gain yards rushing the football for us

Some of you nuts out there really don't understand that this is a business where if you don't produce you don't get chances
That what these men do on the field will say what happens with them in the future
But if it warms you to think that Davis wasn't given a chance and is just a victim go on and feel that way
You'd be wrong to think that but I'm not convincing you otherwise

[Enter Apotheosis]

How the **** is 19 carries in a season "ample oppurtunity"?

Man, you think you've seen it all.....haha

That opportunity includes the substantial amount of time he had to impress his coaches in camps, practices, and preseason games.

[SpacePenguin]

Let me guess
Your one of those Jason Campbell supporters
Who would say after 50 career starts he didn't get an ample opportunity to show his skills here either?



You guessed wrong, I always hated JC with a passion. Liked Todd Collins by comparison. Was a big fan of Mark Brunell (when healthy).

But that's neither here nor there, anyways....

You're comparing 50 regular season starts at QB with 19 carries in a season for a HB? Seriously? No, sorry...I'm missing the similarity there.

You could definitely convince me that Davis got a fair shot here, but not with that ridiculous metaphor. You could say that Davis couldn't get on the field because the Shanahans didn't like his passpro, and that he didn't improve enough earn any PT in the preseason over a couple of rookies.

See, I made a case for you. Seems far fetched to me, but it's closer to reality than a JC comparison.

You're as entertaining as usual, addicted. :D

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That opportunity includes the substantial amount of time he had to impress his coaches in camps, practices, and preseason games.

Then cut him along with Henson a week ago and let him catch on elsewhere. He obviously didn't impress, so.....

I suppose the end result is the same for us, but it sure does suck for him. Which is why I can understand him losing it.

[Boston Skins]

See, I made a case for you. Seems far fetched to me, but it's closer to reality than a JC comparison.

You're as entertaining as usual, addicted. :D

Let me take a whack at it. Were you mad about the release of Devin Thomas? DT didn't even make it out of PRESEASON with this coaching staff. He got to make a couple special teams plays against the Redskins last year, but that was about it.

James Davis had his chance. You make the most of the chances you get, and if you don't or can't, the rock gets handed to Keiland Williams. Mike Shanahan is a no nonsense kind of guy. If you can't catch on and produce, you're gone. And I LOVE it.

[SAli457180]

What the hell is up with guys thinking they're the ***** and just walking out. Cortland Finnegan, who's already a nutcase, did it last week because of a contract dispute and now this fool. If he was going to do this, he shouldn't have bothered showing up today or at least turned in his playbook. Guys like this don't deserve the opportunity they've been afforded. Straight up dumb@ss decision. Man up instead on ****ing out like he did. What a LOSER.

[Xero21]

Why work your ass off in TC when you aren't getting reps or playing time regardless?

Yeah. Why earn playing time? Albert Haynesworth agrees.

[HailToTheRedskins14]

Why work your ass off in TC when you aren't getting reps or playing time regardless?

To watch the amazing Evan Royster get 15 carries? No thanks.

Hope he catches on somewhere and is given a legitimate chance to make a roster.


Really?

"Why practice hard in training camp?"

Really?



EDIT - And I was expecting James Davis to get his chance at one of our other preseason games. I told someone earlier he'd probably get to carry the load one game. I'm close to Clemson so I was cheering for him, but forget the guy now. What a dumb move to make on his part.

[Chump Bailey]

I never thought he had much of a chance anyway. I hope he gets another opportunity somewhere else though. Prove us wrong young man on another team.

[addicted]

You guessed wrong, I always hated JC with a passion. Liked Todd Collins by comparison. Was a big fan of Mark Brunell (when healthy).
But that's neither here nor there, anyways....

Well at least we'd agree on something there spaceman
We are miles apart about James Davis




You're comparing 50 regular season starts at QB with 19 carries in a season for a HB? Seriously? No, sorry...I'm missing the similarity there.

You could definitely convince me that Davis got a fair shot here, but not with that ridiculous metaphor. You could say that Davis couldn't get on the field because the Shanahans didn't like his passpro, and that he didn't improve enough earn any PT in the preseason over a couple of rookies.

See, I made a case for you. Seems far fetched to me, but it's closer to reality than a JC comparison.

You're as entertaining as usual, addicted


Like I said I already know that there isn't any convincing going on with you on this topic.
I read your sillyness in the other thread about how you felt Davis got a raw deal...bullspit

Your the poster who said:


I can't say I blame him. Why keep a guy with his talent around if you're not going to give him a shot? But no-burst Royster gets 15 carries....Yeah, gotta say I'm with James Davis on this one.

First of all what's your problem with the rookie? The problem here is you got no sizzle with Davis, you don't have anything good to show for his work here or any arguement about why if he was so talented didn't he do more with the chances he got. In Davis's debut he rushed for an average of less then 2 yards a carry...some burst he;'s got there huh?

Second off how could you even agree or be on the side of this player? He handled this terribly. I have no sympathy for someone who handles crap unprofessionally. Why should the team have released him like your saying? The team doesn't know whats in our future. Royster, Torain, Helu could all get injured in preseason and open a spot for James Davis. Why in the hell do the Redskins owe James Davis a damn thing like a release because after one preseason game he didn't play? Boohooo reality is they don't owe him jack. The team needs to look out for itself. Not some sorry excuse of a human being who would go AWOL after screaming at coaches because they aren't "giving him a shot". Earn it, don't cry because you didn't earn it.

The ROTOWORLD report on Davis before all this said

"Redskins RB James Davis' pass-blocking skills "left a lot to be desired" in a two-game audition late last season....he's now fallen out of favor with two coaching staffs in two years"

"He's fallen out of favor with two different teams in two years"
Before this new news about Davis even surfaced....
What you got here is a dude with a bad attitude who's production doesn't back up his own ego
Davis thinks he is great. Good for him.Davis has "Potential"
Potential without Production = Disappointment and BUST
James Davis = Disappointing Bust at this stage of his career.
After what we've all been through who the hell wants to support that on this team?

[NLC1054]

Then cut him along with Henson a week ago and let him catch on elsewhere. He obviously didn't impress, so.....

I suppose the end result is the same for us, but it sure does suck for him. Which is why I can understand him losing it.

The problem with that is, this would be the second team that's cut him. Even if we cut him last week, it's unlikely he'd be able to go anywhere and compete to start. At least here, he had a half decent chance of making it as the "fifth string emergency" back guy, maybe someone who could play special teams, or something. The difference between cutting him now and cutting a week ago is pretty much nil, as at this point in camp, teams already have a pretty solid idea of the guys who will and won't make the team.

A guy like Mike Sellers is doing everything he can short of bringing Mike Shanahan coffee to make the football team. Mike doesn't like b**chers and complainers. He says so in his book. You shut up, you show up and go about your work, and you earn everything. You do that, and you'll make it hard for Mike to cut you. You go off on your coaches and storm out of the building and pout like a punk, not only will you end up getting cut, but Mike will likely find a way to make sure you don't end up getting your way. That's just the way he is. Now, the way I'm looking at it, I'm thinking Mike keeps him until preseason in week 4, then plays him and says "show me why I shouldn't cut you."

If James shows up, and blocks, and runs hard, and puts in his work, Mike might still try to find a place for him. If he's average, he'll be gone, and he'll lose his shot to be on another football team. Not that he has much of a shot now (or a week ago) anyway, unless there's an injury somewhere.

[SpacePenguin]

Let me take a whack at it. Were you mad about the release of Devin Thomas? DT didn't even make it out of PRESEASON with this coaching staff. He got to make a couple special teams plays against the Redskins last year, but that was about it.

James Davis had his chance. You make the most of the chances you get, and if you don't or can't, the rock gets handed to Keiland Williams. Mike Shanahan is a no nonsense kind of guy. If you can't catch on and produce, you're gone. And I LOVE it.

Nah, I thought Thomas had a few years to prove himself, and was cut for not taking football seriously enough. On the other hand, considering how poorly Joey Galloway played, I think most posters would prefer Thomas to the horror that we were left with.

It's closer than JC's situation regardless, the only thing that bothers me is that Devin Thomas was inherited from the former regime, and Davis was brought in by the current one. I don't guess that really matters though, as we all know Shanahan has brought in a few guys who didn't work out.

I'll settle on Davis not working hard enough to improve his blocking, and that being enough to bench him for inferior, harder working talent. I like this attitude of the FO in general, but it does have it's drawbacks. Drawbacks like Keiland Williams and Joey Galloway. And now Royster.

But you guys do have a point, that's how Mike is, and it isn't going to change. I didn't like it when Henson was cut either, but life goes on.

[justice98]

That opportunity includes the substantial amount of time he had to impress his coaches in camps, practices, and preseason games.

You mean all the OTAs that never happened and the one preseason game he didn't get in?

[HailToTheRedskins14]

He's fallen out of favor with two different teams in two years
Dude is a head case with an attitude.
After what we've all been through who the hell wants to support that?


I'm obviously not on this guy's side, but let's not call him a "head case" because he made a mistake. He did something stupid and will probably feel the consequences (I'd fine him immediately if possible).

But I hate to see anybody, especially a younger guy, get labelled as a "head case" that makes him sound mentally unstable just because he made a small mistake.


Just saying.

[trap]

What an A**HOLE

[NLC1054]

Nah, I thought Thomas had a few years to prove himself, and was cut for not taking football seriously enough. On the other hand, considering how poorly Joey Galloway played, I think most posters would prefer Thomas to the horror that we were left with.

It's closer than JC's situation regardless, the only thing that bothers me is that Devin Thomas was inherited from the former regime, and Davis was brought in by the current one. I don't guess that really matters though, as we all know Shanahan has brought in a few guys who didn't work out.

I'll settle on Davis not working hard enough to improve his blocking, and that being enough to bench him for inferior, harder working talent. I like this attitude of the FO in general, but it does have it's drawbacks. Drawbacks like Keiland Williams and Joey Galloway. And now Royster.

Now you have a problem with K-Wil?

WHY? Again, another hard worker who was actually productive when he got his opportunity to play, who could block and catch out of the backfield.

And what exactly is your beef with Royster? He's a rookie. Seriously, you keep bringing up Royster like he's some sort of bust or something, and for the life of me, I can't figure out why. He had the same YPC as Hightower and rushed for 66 yards in what amounts to one half of play. Oh yeah. And he blocked.

Is it because Royster isn't flashy? Are you a fan of one of Penn State's rival team? Because I don't understand the problem you have with him.

[flexxskins]

I mean he was a longshot anyway.

But this hurts his chances in the future getting picked up by another team.I actually thought that Davis might come along and beat out Royster. But you are right crusher, he hurt his chances most likely in many different ways by doing this.

[Jumbo]

Why work your ass off in TC when you aren't getting reps or playing time regardless?

To watch the amazing Evan Royster get 15 carries? No thanks.

Hope he catches on somewhere and is given a legitimate chance to make a roster.

I'm preferring to believe you're a friend or relative of his and not simply that clueless. :D

[addicted]

I'm obviously not on this guy's side, but let's not call him a "head case" because he made a mistake. He did something stupid and will probably feel the consequences (I'd fine him immediately if possible).

But I hate to see anybody, especially a younger guy, get labelled as a "head case" that makes him sound mentally unstable just because he made a small mistake.


Just saying.


So you go into your bosses office and yell at him because your not liking how your being used and then storm out of work...would that be a "small mistake" to you if it made the papers?

Come on man

This is a highly competitive job these men are working so hard for

Sure its a game to us, but to them it's a job like what you or I do. You can't act like that in my business without getting at least written up and most likely fired. He can't either. That's not a small mistake, that's a dumb ass thing to do. He should let his production on the field force the coaches to give him another look. Not do this.

[Enter Apotheosis]

You mean all the OTAs that never happened and the one preseason game he didn't get in?

I was lumping his time in Cleveland in with the whole "failure to impress his coaches" thing. Speaking strictly of the Redskins, though, you have a point. IMO, he's still had a pretty decent amount of opportunity to show what he can do.

[Boston Skins]

Nah, I thought Thomas had a few years to prove himself, and was cut for not taking football seriously enough. On the other hand, considering how poorly Joey Galloway played, I think most posters would prefer Thomas to the horror that we were left with.

It's closer than JC's situation regardless, the only thing that bothers me is that Devin Thomas was inherited from the former regime, and Davis was brought in by the current one. I don't guess that really matters though, as we all know Shanahan has brought in a few guys who didn't work out.

I'll settle on Davis not working hard enough to improve his blocking, and that being enough to bench him for inferior, harder working talent. I like this attitude of the FO in general, but it does have it's drawbacks. Drawbacks like Keiland Williams and Joey Galloway. And now Royster.

But you guys do have a point, that's how Mike is, and it isn't going to change. I didn't like it when Henson was cut either, but life goes on.

It's hard to see it now, but Mike Shanahan knows what he's doing. I'm done with sentimental favorites. I want performers. If Royster is terrible 2 years from now, then I want him gone too. But he looked pretty good to me. Helu is the quick guy, and Royster is the bruiser. This is how teams are built.

This really isn't about Shanny giving him a chance, though. Davis walked out. The coaching staff brought in competition, just like every other position on the team, and some players see it as an insult and not as a chance to improve their game.

[Gurgeh]

Then cut him along with Henson a week ago and let him catch on elsewhere. He obviously didn't impress, so.....


Maybe they didn't cut him because they were thinking of giving him his chance in another game? Helu didn't get a look with the first team last week, so maybe this week it was going to be Helu and Davis. Now if they'd told him he wasn't going to play in the next game either, then sure, ask to be cut, but don't walk out. There will be teams on the lookout for RBs.

[SpacePenguin]

Now you have a problem with K-Wil?

WHY? Again, another hard worker who was actually productive when he got his opportunity to play, who could block and catch out of the backfield.

And what exactly is your beef with Royster? He's a rookie. Seriously, you keep bringing up Royster like he's some sort of bust or something, and for the life of me, I can't figure out why. He had the same YPC as Hightower and rushed for 66 yards in what amounts to one half of play. Oh yeah. And he blocked.

Is it because Royster isn't flashy? Are you a fan of one of Penn State's rival team? Because I don't understand the problem you have with him.

Haha, I suppose I have been overly critical of Royster. It's more a matter of situation than the player, as when he was drafted, it seemed to be odd since we'd already taken Helu. It seemed like an unnecessary pick to me at the time, and that's before THT was acquired.

I'd watched a few games of Royster's in college, and thought he was alright. It's more a matter of me wanting a shiftier back with more burst to go along with Torain/THT in the ZBK. Now maybe Helu can fill that role, I was just hoping to hedge my bets on that with Davis.

Is it logical? Probably not. Fair? Not even close.

But that's my reasoning. Actually, you guys have convinced me I'm wrong about this. If it was anyone but JD I'd be on your side.

Sorry?

[The Tris]

Gold jacket, green jacket....

[SWFLSkins]

I'm preferring to believe you're a friend or relative of his and not simply that clueless. :D

SP=cuz of. LOL.


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[addicted]

Haha, I suppose I have been overly critical of Royster. It's more a matter of situation than the player, as when he was drafted, it seemed to be odd since we'd already taken Helu. It seemed like an unnecessary pick to me at the time, and that's before THT was acquired.

I'd watched a few games of Royster's in college, and thought he was alright. It's more a matter of me wanting a shiftier back with more burst to go along with Torain/THT in the ZBK. Now maybe Helu can fill that role, I was just hoping to hedge my bets on that with Davis.

Is it logical? Probably not. Fair? Not even close.

But that's my reasoning. Actually, you guys have convinced me I'm wrong about this. If it was anyone but JD I'd be on your side.

Sorry?

You and me are good and solid
I repect your opinion and enjoy reading different opinions
I just felt strongly about this.

Sorry if I came off like a dick

[SpacePenguin]

You and me are good and solid
I repect your opinion and enjoy reading different opinions
I just felt strongly about this.

Sorry if I came off like a dick

Nah, I was stupid in this case, and my opinion really shouldn't have been respected. I knew James in college and am pretty biased. Cool guy.

No worries. You're a pretty entertaining poster, and it was fun to debate, even in defeat.

[ouvan59]

Why work your ass off in TC when you aren't getting reps or playing time regardless?

To watch the amazing Evan Royster get 15 carries? No thanks.

Hope he catches on somewhere and is given a legitimate chance to make a roster.

Ummmm, really? Football coaches talk all the time and recommend players to their friends in the industry.

[HailToTheRedskins14]

So you go into your bosses office and yell at him because your not liking how your being used and then storm out of work...would that be a "small mistake" to you if it made the papers?

Come on man

This is a highly competitive job these men are working so hard for

Sure its a game to us, but to them it's a job like what you or I do. You can't act like that in my business without getting at least written up and most likely fired. He can't either. That's not a small mistake, that's a dumb ass thing to do. He should let his production on the field force the coaches to give him another look. Not do this.


I agree, I just don't like seeing the "headcase" thing thrown around. We don't know all the circumstances.

He did something stupid. Doesn't mean he's crazy. Maybe I was taking the remark literal when it wasn't meant to be, I dunno.

[joelvincent]

James who?

[Diesel Hog]

This really sucks. Yes, I realize he hasn't done jack for the Redskins, but I was really hoping that he'd bring solid competition to the RB squad, and I was hoping to see what he's got in the preseason. Oh well, I'm guessing he's on Shanahan's **** list now, and as we know, once you're on it, you're there to stay.

[KAZEstrong]

WHOOOO CARES! I didnt even know he was in camp with us

[KDawg]

Why work your ass off in TC when you aren't getting reps or playing time regardless?

To watch the amazing Evan Royster get 15 carries? No thanks.

Hope he catches on somewhere and is given a legitimate chance to make a roster.

I think you severely underrate Evan Royster. :)

After one preseason game (that's my disclaimer, sue me :ols:, I like Royster better than Helu. And I'm not talking based on production, I'm talking about vision, burst, elusiveness...

[SpacePenguin]

I think you severely underrate Evan Royster. :)

After one preseason game (that's my disclaimer, sue me :ols:, I like Royster better than Helu. And I'm not talking based on production, I'm talking about vision, burst, elusiveness...

Yeah, I admitted as much about Royster.Although, I would attribute some of his success Friday to the OL. Let's be honest, he wasn't dodging people in the backfield from what I saw. The line gave all the backs that played a chance to make an impact. A sight for sore eyes, to be sure.

Better than Helu? Who knows at this point, but that's going to provoke some interesting responses.

[KDawg]

Yeah, I admitted as much about Royster.Although, I would attribute some of his success Friday to the OL. Let's be honest, he wasn't dodging people in the backfield from what I saw. The line gave all the backs that played a chance to make an impact. A sight for sore eyes, to be sure.

Better than Helu? Who knows at this point, but that's going to provoke some interesting responses.

I'm certainly not afraid of interesting responses :ols:

And yes, the line certainly has something to do with it... But in the zone scheme, the back has to find the hole and hit it, and read blocks. He had the vision and burst to do so.

[SpacePenguin]

I'm certainly not afraid of interesting responses :ols:

And yes, the line certainly has something to do with it... But in the zone scheme, the back has to find the hole and hit it, and read blocks. He had the vision and burst to do so.

Apparently neither am I, lol.

I'd like to see Royster run against a first team defense before I get too high on him, but he did produce on the field, no doubt about that.

More excited about Hightower at this point. He runs with attitude.

This is crazy, I can't remember the last time preseason cuts were this painful. Speaks volumes about the depth on this team.

[Mickalino]

Career Stats :
Att : 28
Yds : 75
Avg : 2.7
Long : 14
TD : 0

Dude, you have to actually SHOW something to warrant arguing over playing time or depth chart status.

[War Paint]

You really don't remember the hype from when he was brought up from the practice squad last year? Against the Colts I think it was. He sucked.

Hehe, I follow the Skins real closely, but I guess this is one of those things that slipped past my radar. I didn't even know we had a guy named James Davis on the roster.

[LEED3D]

Who's James Davis?

[ArmchairRedskin]

Is he still AWOL?

I think we can police sergeant Cerrato on the case

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/dcsportsbog/vinnyninja.jpg

[Mickalino]

Who's James Davis?

The latest bump in the Unemployment Rate.

[redskindan07]

Cut him and bring in some more OL help

[SonnyRules]

So long, farewell, auf Wiedersehen!

[HigSkin]

Wasn't it some member, Brooding Burgundy (?), that made the announcement last year about signing Davis and knew him somehow?

I wonder where he is on all this.

[Wyvern]

I like what I see from Royster. He's just a yardage machine. Very reliable, gets the yards -- falls forward. I'd like to see him around the goal-line more. Good-character, and some nice stats from his time with Penn State. I was surprised he fell to us. This guy will play special teams, anything. -- Hope he sticks.

I'll go on the line here -- if we try to PS him, he'll picked up quickly. He's a real lunch-pail RB, no ego, and willing to block.

[WhoRUSupposed2Be]

He just ruined his chances... now he'll be working with Robert Henson flipping burgers at Mickie D's...

[kubstix]

Hopefully JD doesn't read ES, but I'll be honest, I completely forgot he was even on the roster now with hightower, roy, royster, torrain. I highly doubt he was going to make the team so bustin out was probably the best thing to ensure his release.

[LUCKYMAN]

There are so many more interesting things to discuss. If you must know, Davis is at the Bus station. I saw him there a few hours ago waiting on a greyhound home.

[IrepDC]

He wasn't even getting reps in practice, I believe. The frustration probably just boiled over.

[Darc Requiem]

He should have just asked for his release. He's screwed himself with other teams. Coaches don't like quitters.

[LUCKYMAN]

This really sucks. Yes, I realize he hasn't done jack for the Redskins, but I was really hoping that he'd bring solid competition to the RB squad, and I was hoping to see what he's got in the preseason. Oh well, I'm guessing he's on Shanahan's **** list now, and as we know, once you're on it, you're there to stay.

Let me see. We have 3 running backs competing right now along with 2 fullbacks...so basically 5 backs carrying the ball competing but that is not enough for you to consider it to be "solid competition".....Do you realize that there is only ONE ball in the game?

[Mickalino]

He should have just asked for his release. He's screwed himself with other teams. Coaches don't like quitters.

Especially ones that suck :laugh:

[Ashburn Dave]

We don't need his attitude in the locker room so good riddance.

[LaRonDontLikeUgly]

I remember last year a few of you were certain James Davis would make the 53, and some of you were predicting that he would start and dominate.

I wagered my ES account that you would all be incorrect... and if it weren't for all of my back-taxes, I would now be able to sleep safely at night.

[Madison Redskin]

Yeah, I admitted as much about Royster.Although, I would attribute some of his success Friday to the OL. Let's be honest, he wasn't dodging people in the backfield from what I saw. The line gave all the backs that played a chance to make an impact. A sight for sore eyes, to be sure.

Not to threadjack, but I loved what I saw of Hightower. He hit the holes hard, showed a lot more speed and agility than I expected, and looks like a bruiser. Royster seemed to tenative, and reluctant to hit the holes. He seemed to wait too patiently for his blockers to open up lanes. Helu looked explosive (although he did trip on his own laces on one play).

[SpacePenguin]

Not to threadjack, but I loved what I saw of Hightower. He hit the holes hard, showed a lot more speed and agility than I expected, and looks like a bruiser. Royster seemed to tenative, and reluctant to hit the holes. He seemed to wait too patiently for his blockers to open up lanes. Helu looked explosive (although he did trip on his own laces on one play).

I agree, despite Royster's statistics it was night and day between THT and Evan. Its to be expected with a rookie, but more than a slight against Royster, its' a credit to how good Hightower looked. Shanahan must've liked what he saw of him on film. He looked like a quicker Torain, running lower and with better vision.

If he can stay healthy and hold on to the rock, what's not to like?

[mi6]

Time to the cord with with a drama queen.

[Madison Redskin]

I agree, despite Royster's statistics it was night and day between THT and Evan. Its to be expected with a rookie, but more than a slight against Royster, its' a credit to how good Hightower looked. Shanahan must've liked what he saw of him on film. He looked like a quicker Torain, running lower and with better vision.

If he can stay healthy and hold on to the rock, what's not to like?

I hate to say it, but Hightower reminds me of Marion Barber of old. He's not going to win a 40 yard dash, but he "plays fast" and hits defenders like they insulted his mother. Dude's a keeper.

[kemosobi]

Sounds like something Vince Young would do.

[jsharrin55]

I agree, I just don't like seeing the "headcase" thing thrown around. We don't know all the circumstances.

He did something stupid. Doesn't mean he's crazy. Maybe I was taking the remark literal when it wasn't meant to be, I dunno.

Yeah, I agree with this. We take one line that mentions a argument, and all kinds of things like he didn't work hard enough or he didn't make use of his opportunities. We haven't seen his work, but we do know he wasn't cut. Coaches had to see something they liked.

Sure, he probably wasn't going to make the team, but he turned down offers to play for other teams last year. Right now he's sitting on the bench when other guys are getting a chance. He probably needs to ask what role they have planned for him and instead he got frustrated and went off.

Definitely a dumb move. Not arguing that point.

[mel25]

he should just pull a george costanza and show up tomorrow like nothin ever happened.

[SkinsOasis]

Who's James Davis ?

[TheRealBigRich]

Idk why he would hurt his chances to get on another team just because he is upset

[Painkiller]

There is a right way and a wrong way to voice your displeasure or air your grievances.

Davis chose the wrong way, and it's going to cost him. Probably not just with the Redskins. Something like that sticks with a player.

[Mickalino]

Idk why he would hurt his chances to get on another team just because he is upset

Did you just completely overlook the 4 CAPITAL letters at the end of the subject line ?

[Boss_Hogg]

He just ruined his chances... now he'll be working with Robert Henson flipping burgers at Mickie D's...

I see what you dud there.

[Redskin Diehard]

That's so unprofessional. JD just flushed his career in football down the toilet.

[abdcskins]

I always thought this guy had a chance to be good for some reason. Maybe I was just remembering his college days.

Crappy attitude gets you nowhere.

[Diesel Hog]

Let me see. We have 3 running backs competing right now along with 2 fullbacks...so basically 5 backs carrying the ball competing but that is not enough for you to consider it to be "solid competition".....Do you realize that there is only ONE ball in the game?

Wait, so you're telling me that during the game there is only one ball used? Wow, I learn something new everyday! Thanks for the insight.

By "solid competition", I meant that I was hoping JD would bring competition, meaning he would rock it during camp and the preseason. Looks like that's not happening now. I was rooting for the guy, because Clemson is a team I follow, and he played really well in college, and always seemed like a great back for the NFL. Doesn't seem to be working out for the guy, couple that with his attitude, and it's simply a disappointing situation. At the end of the day, the Redskins didn't have much invested in him, so at least the team isn't gonna be really affected by this.

[SkinsCrushCowboys]

Excellent way to make a positive impression on the coaches....well done princess.....out with the trash and attitude....

[paloosa]

James Davis should be upset but at himself because if he was doing all the right things then they wouldn't have drafted Royster, Helu or traded for Hightower. He was picked up and spent most of last year on the practice squad. So if someone thought he was worth a starting position or wanted him on their team they would have signed him. So Davis hasn't done anything to improve his status and won't make the team.

[S.T.real,lights,out]

No loss. The guy sucks, anyway.

Agree, he's a 5th string RB. Get rid of him.

[KDawg]

Agree, he's a 5th string RB. Get rid of him.

Actually, sixth.

Hightower, Torain, Helu/Royster, Draughn, Davis

Sorry to nitpick ;)

[wrecker]

http://jrenseyblog.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/obama-crying-all-bushs-fault.jpg

[Park City Skins]

Goodness. Taking his ball and going home I guess.

[polywog999]

I've never heard of such a thing....he could have turned this around. Guess he didn't like the good pay, the adulation from the fans, or the hot chicks fawning over him. Good luck with the new job, dumbass...

[Blue Collar Skins]

I've never heard of such a thing....he could have turned this around. Guess he didn't like the good pay, the adulation from the fans, or the hot chicks fawning over him. Good luck with the new job, dumbass...

Hahahaha.

[doghouse4x4]

Seriously lame move. Basically exactly the opposite of what he needs to do to succeed.

[Dan T.]

...if some premadonna doesn't want to get on board and play ball then ...


We interrupt this thread to chuckle at one of my favorite mangled spellings of all time....

Get with the times. He's a preladygaga.

(The term is prima donna, Italian for "first lady.")

[doghouse4x4]

We interrupt this thread to chuckle at one of my favorite mangled spellings of all time....

Get with the times. He's a preladygaga.

ahahahahahaha....

[spjunkies]

Who the **** is James Davis?

All the dude had to do was wait 2 weeks for when he was on the first list of cuts.

[hoosandskinsMUSTwin]

James Davis had 0 percent chance of making this team.

[Dan T.]

I'm obviously not on this guy's side, but let's not call him a "head case" because he made a mistake. He did something stupid and will probably feel the consequences (I'd fine him immediately if possible).

But I hate to see anybody, especially a younger guy, get labelled as a "head case" that makes him sound mentally unstable just because he made a small mistake.

Just saying.

There was another headcase who played for the Redskins, Sam something. In his rookie year, he got frustrated and pissed off and walked out of Giants training camp. But an assistant coach who saw something in him tracked him to the airport, yelled at him about guts and determination and coaxed him back to camp. The assistant coach was a guy named Vince Lombardi. Oh yeah, the player's last name was Huff.

[doghouse4x4]

There was another headcase who played for the Redskins, Sam something. In his rookie year, he got frustrated and pissed off and walked out of Giants training camp. But an assistant coach who saw something in him tracked him to the airport, yelled at him about guts and determination and coaxed him back to camp. The assistant coach was a guy named Vince Lombardi. Oh yeah, the player's last name was Huff.

Yeah...... I wouldn't be making a comparison of Davis who hasn't managed to get past 5th on the depth chart to Sam Huff. Just sayin.

[Fred Jones]

There was another headcase who played for the Redskins, Sam something. In his rookie year, he got frustrated and pissed off and walked out of Giants training camp. But an assistant coach who saw something in him tracked him to the airport, yelled at him about guts and determination and coaxed him back to camp. The assistant coach was a guy named Vince Lombardi. Oh yeah, the player's last name was Huff.

Running backs are relatively easy to evaluate, IMHO, especially by our HC and RB Coach so I am not worried that Davis "AKA Barry Sanders" will not be getting a second chance when he does surface.

[BeefJerky]

I'm Definatly losing sleep over this one!

[S.T.real,lights,out]

Actually, sixth.

Hightower, Torain, Helu/Royster, Draughn, Davis

Sorry to nitpick ;)

I was counting Helu/Royster as 1?? :)

[Dan T.]

Yeah...... I wouldn't be making a comparison of Davis who hasn't managed to get past 5th on the depth chart to Sam Huff. Just sayin.

Not comparing the two on talent, (even though nobody knew whether Sam Huff would even make the team then - he didn't even have a position in training camp yet.) Just bolstering HailToTheRedskins14's point that one stupid mistake shouldn't brand a player a "headcase."

[jsharrin55]

We interrupt this thread to chuckle at one of my favorite mangled spellings of all time....

Get with the times. He's a preladygaga.

(The term is prima donna, Italian for "first lady.")

first few times I heard the phrase I thought it was pre-madonna and never understood who cared :ols:

[doghouse4x4]

Not comparing the two on talent, (even though nobody knew whether Sam Huff would even make the team then - he didn't even have a position in training camp yet.) Just bolstering HailToTheRedskins14's point that one stupid mistake shouldn't brand a player a "headcase."

Fair enough. I don't think he is a headcase either, just that he made a pretty spectacularly bad decision in this case.

[crownking]

Trade him to New England for a 9th round pick in 2020.

[Diesel Hog]

Is he still AWOL today?

[VetMinimum+Incentives]

JDavis_24James Davis

by john_keim
Please do not believe everything you here(sic) people. The story will be released soon. The real truth of the story.


Oh ok the story will be released soon I just can't wait <snicker>

[Dan T.]

JDavis_24James Davis

by john_keim
Please do not believe everything you here(sic) people. The story will be released soon. The real truth of the story.


Oh ok the story will be released soon I just can't wait <snicker>

All bee weighting rite hear four the storey.

[jfriedenthal]

Sounds like he was fed a pile from the Haynesworth Camp.

[carverkid]

Not comparing the two on talent, (even though nobody knew whether Sam Huff would even make the team then - he didn't even have a position in training camp yet.) Just bolstering HailToTheRedskins14's point that one stupid mistake shouldn't brand a player a "headcase."

Regardless, there was no Vince Lombardi chasing Davis to the airport. Obviously his assistant coach didn't "see something in him" and let him walk. If you find a lottery ticket on the ground, safe money says it's a loser.

[VetMinimum+Incentives]

Russellmania980Chris Russell

Shanahan says about James Davis "anybody seen him?" Says he doesn't expect him back. "He went from Missing in Action to a POW."

--

dshifDaniel Shiferaw

Shanahan guesses that James Davis is "retired from football". This should be some story when it comes out

[Champskins]

Jarvis99jenkins @Ham_25 boi JD left the team today man smh

Jarvis99jenkins @Ham_25 man long story tried to talk him out of it

JDavis_24 Please do not believe everything you here people. The story will be released soon. The real truth of the story.


BTW James, Its "hear" not "here".... glad to see your college education paid off SMH

[tshile]

i can't wait to here it

[NLC1054]

Sucks that JJ tried to talk his friend out of making a dumb decision, but Davis made it nyway.

[wrecker]

Oh no! Training Camp drama with our 5th string running back! :rolleyes:

[mossomo]

Says he doesn't expect him back. Shanahan guesses that James Davis is "retired from football".

Ice cold Mike, ice cold

[doghouse4x4]

Oh Noes!

http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn57/Jaws29_photos/everybody_panic-1.gif

[Champskins]

i can't wait to here it

I see what you did there

[ConnSKINS26]

Ice cold Mike

You just got iced, bro. :silly:

[justice98]

I assume Shanahan's "retired" was a jab at Davis under the notion that anybody that would act like that doesn't really want to play football. Which isn't unreasonable.

[Boss_Hogg]

i can't wait until the local media drums up some conspiracy theories on how the Shanahans drove James Davis to go AWOL.

[scruffylookin]

Does anyone care?

Honestly I figured if Davis made this team it would be a disappointment because that means Helu and/or Royster sucked. Since both looked good on Friday, the writing is on the wall for Mr. Davis.

[Blue Collar Skins]

i can't wait until the local media drums up some conspiracy theories on how the Shanahans drove James Davis to go AWOL. They did I tell you!! Shanahan made Davis act like an infant just like they did with Haynesworth! They are employing secret alien mind-control tactics that they learned from Tom Cruise and the scientologists! Conspiracy! :silly:

[IrepDC]

The Cowboys just got a lifetime fan lol

[ouvan59]

The Cowboys just got a lifetime fan lol

Or maybe a starting RB. He'll fit in with the rest of those quitters.

[Stadium-Armory]

Adversity brings out a person's character.

[Boss_Hogg]

The team has the authority to fine a player $20,000 for skipping a day of practice, but Shanahan seemed to imply that the Redskins would not pursue the money. “I think maybe he’s made $1,500,” Shanahan said. “Add that up, that’s not good.”

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/football-insider/post/mike-shanahan-rb-james-davis-wont-be-back/2011/08/15/gIQAhF2IJJ_blog.html

[Mickalino]

Wow - never seen such hoopla about a nobody.

Are we that pressed for news, folks ?

Come on, there's still plenty of John Beck stuff to talk about.

[wrecker]

Wow - never seen such hoopla about a nobody.

Are we that pressed for news, folks ?

Come on, there's still plenty of John Beck stuff to talk about.


I see what you did there. :)

[RansomthePasserby]

The Cowboys just got a lifetime fan lol

Fine by me. They can have him.

[TonePatron]

Got to get his name out there somehow....imagine that

[RM52]

"The team has the authority to fine a player $20,000 for skipping a day of practice, but Shanahan seemed to imply that the Redskins would not pursue the money. “I think maybe he’s made $1,500,” Shanahan said. “Add that up, that’s not good.”

winning :ols:

[addicted]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/16/shanahan-on-awol-james-davis-i-think-hes-retired/

My favorite quote from this whole stupid mess is

“I think maybe he’s made $1,500,” Shanahan said. “Add that up, that’s not good.”

Halarious!! :cheers:

[Frostx08]

Shanny's statement was pretty classless actually....

[mossomo]

Ice cold Mike, ice cold

“He could get fined $20,000 for missing a day,” Shanahan cracked. “I think he’s made, maybe $1500. So you add that up, that’s not good.”

What addicted said.

[Boss_Hogg]

I think we will see James Davis in the UFL or the CFL

[TomE]

Shanny's statement was pretty classless actually....

How so?
Are there some mitigating reasons for the guy to packup and leave after blowing up at a coach that you are aware of?
If the guy had some personal problems, surely he could have handled it better rather than just ****-canning his football career.

[DCBnG21]

Shanny's statement was pretty classless actually....

What's classless about saying, "we're not going to pursue $20,000 from a guy we've only paid $1500?"

[Skinzfever2010]

What's classless about saying, "we're not going to pursue $20,000 from a guy we've only paid $1500?"

OMG, everything about it is classless. That is the mans business. Would you like it if your boss went public with how much you made? I'm pretty sure Coach Gibbs would never do such a thing to humiliate a 3rd string running back he signed last year when all the other RBs got hurt.

Very ****ing classless. Worry about philly beating the **** of us on national TV Mike, or your dumb ass son blind faith in dumb **** QB who throws to anybody in sight (even if there not wearing our colors). Sometimes the people at the top make me wonder.

FAIL!

[Bubble Screen]

Not classless at all, imo. The guy was obviously a thorn in Mike's side. Besides, why are we even discussing this loser?

[polywog999]

Not classless at all, imo. The guy was obviously a thorn in Mike's side. Besides, why are we even discussing this loser?

+1

Guy screwed everyone. Mike made a joke about it. Go figure....

[Blue Collar Skins]

OMG, everything about it is classless. That is the mans business. Would you like it if your boss went public with how much you made? I'm pretty sure Coach Gibbs would never do such a thing to humiliate a 3rd string running back he signed last year when all the other RBs got hurt.

Very ****ing classless. Worry about philly beating the **** of us on national TV Mike, or your dumb ass son blind faith in dumb **** QB who throws to anybody in sight (even if there not wearing our colors). Sometimes the people at the top make me wonder.

FAIL! Most people do not work in the public eye, especially after every practice there are a ton of reports asking every question conceivable. I think that Shanahan did not mean anything by it and was just trying to make light of the situation.

[SpacePenguin]

Just when I thought this couldn't get worse...Shanny goes and tells the media how little money the guy made, and how he's apparently retired. I agree with most of you that its humorous that such a generally boring coach is so inept with the media.

That being said, it's classless, just about as classless as what Davis pulled. The conditioning test last year was not quite as classless as Albert taking the bonus and not showing up. The things he said in the media about McNabb weren't too "classy" either. Although, having watched him play vs Detroit, I'd say it was deserved.

Hell all three examples were probably deserved, but don't act like Shanny's some kind of classy guy. He's a vindictive old man, if players get on his bad side he tries to get even. I don't mind him being a discplinarian, but wish he'd shut his mouth when it came to the media. Its more trouble than its worth. "No Comment" was all that needed to be said in all 3 cases. This isn't Denver.

Guess he didn't learn that from Bellicheck. Not that he's all that classy either, but normally doesn't give the media anything.

I like Shanahan, and his son even more, but Mike also has a mean streak. You could see it in his eyes several times while McNabb was in last season. I like it, he puts the fear of god into these players, but its pretty far from classy. More like as close to an eye for an eye as he can get.

[Skinzfever2010]

Coach is an ******* for that. None of us really know what transpired in the locker room. Furthermore, Coach Shanahan should have been the bigger person and dealt with it professionally. Clearly Davis let his emotions get the best of him. That doesn't mean there wasn't something that didn't trigger it. What if he was promised a certain amount of carries last week? These guys are just getting back to workout post a lockout for God sake.


I heard Coach is pulling up to practice in Maybachs. We know Dan's money is contributing to his lavish lifestyle. However, that is his business. We don't need to know how little our 3rd string RB you signed out of desperation last year makes. Joe Gibbs wouldn't fix his lips to throw a player out there like that. Your a true *******. Worry about beating Andy Reid's team this season. The Giants have also had our number since 2008, it wouldn't be a bad idea trying to figure out how we can finally win a game against them.

Stay Classy Mike. (Now I understand why the rest of the league thinks we're a joke)

FAIL

[Xameil]

Seriously...lighten up...jeeze. (if I could find it I would post the "Lighten up Francis" pic from Stripes ;) )
Do you honestly think JD only made $1500?

I am sure he made more then that. MS made a joke, simple as that.

If JD had an issue with his carries then maybe he should have tried harder...
If he felt he was wronged then he should have been a man, sucked it up and proved he deserved the carries.

[doghouse4x4]

Seriously...lighten up...jeeze. (if I could find it I would post the "Lighten up Francis" pic from Stripes ;) )
Do you honestly think JD only made $1500?

I am sure he made more then that. MS made a joke, simple as that.

If JD had an issue with his carries then maybe he should have tried harder...
If he felt he was wronged then he should have been a man, sucked it up and proved he deserved the carries.


Here ya go :)

http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSoc0SthZPjRPE4d0HY8Mjj93GVgGETC lJJFBp45ITr9XjsDW4jxg

[fwo40]

Coach is an ******* for that. None of us really know what transpired in the locker room. Furthermore, Coach Shanahan should have been the bigger person and dealt with it professionally. Clearly Davis let his emotions get the best of him. That doesn't mean there wasn't something that didn't trigger it. What if he was promised a certain amount of carries last week? These guys are just getting back to workout post a lockout for God sake.


I heard Coach is pulling up to practice in Maybachs. We know Dan's money is contributing to his lavish lifestyle. However, that is his business. We don't need to know how little our 3rd string RB you signed out of desperation last year makes. Joe Gibbs wouldn't fix his lips to throw a player out there like that. Your a true *******. Worry about beating Andy Reid's team this season. The Giants have also had our number since 2008, it wouldn't be a bad idea trying to figure out how we can finally win a game against them.

Stay Classy Mike. (Now I understand why the rest of the league thinks we're a joke)

FAIL

I'll bet if I check your posting history prior to this you're not a Shanny fan, just a hunch....

[LD0506]

Trivial **** happens- ES hilarity ensues :thumbsup:

As usual, this thread has degenerated from talking about something minor because we're bored waitin' for freekin football to posters given their chance to show their bias and runnin with it.

How anyone can take this- not even a molehill, but a rumor about someone that supposedly saw a picture of a molehill once- and try to build it into a mountain that demonstrates Shanahan's character is simply amazing.

[Skin'Em84]

Stay Classy Mike. (Now I understand why the rest of the league thinks we're a joke)

FAIL

Not to single you out Skinzfever, but I'm getting tired of hearing that. Who gives a flying **** what the league thinks of us? The rest of the league could think we have tea parties, wear blush and play WNBA 2009 in our spare time and I couldn't give two *****. It seems to be a common saying now "This is why everyone thinks we're a joke"... or "No wonder the rest of the league thinks we suck.."..or "What an embarrassment to the rest of the league.." Seriously, screw the rest of the league and their fans. Why am I going to get upset if the Buffalo Bills and both of their fans think we are the laughingstock of the league? Why would I care if the Philly fans are laughing at us during their disorderly conduct trials? Does it matter if some emo Seattle fan spits his coffee through his nose when he hears the Redskins? Man, why are we, as fans, going to care what the rest of the league thinks? It doesn't ******* matter.

Edit: Not singling you out Skinzfever, just saw your last post and got tired of hearing that. You are in no way the only person who makes those posts.

[sjinhan]

OMG, everything about it is classless. That is the mans business. Would you like it if your boss went public with how much you made? I'm pretty sure Coach Gibbs would never do such a thing to humiliate a 3rd string running back he signed last year when all the other RBs got hurt.

Very ****ing classless. Worry about philly beating the **** of us on national TV Mike, or your dumb ass son blind faith in dumb **** QB who throws to anybody in sight (even if there not wearing our colors). Sometimes the people at the top make me wonder.

FAIL!

umm i thought the pay during training camp is pretty standard among all players regardless of their contracts....

you only get paid during the regular season games...

if Shanhan just brought it up out of the blue then thats little classless.. if he was asked about what the Redskins would do then i dont see a problem with it... actually he explained it in plain english that Redskins are going to use common sense to not punish Davis unreasonably...

whats the problem with this again?

[RFK Lives]

I like Shanahan, and his son even more, but Mike also has a mean streak. You could see it in his eyes several times while McNabb was in last season. I like it, he puts the fear of god into these players, but its pretty far from classy. More like as close to an eye for an eye as he can get.Agree. I think most of Redskins faithful are still suffering from JGW or Joe Gibbs Withdrawal. A classy, brilliant head coach who endeared us closer to the team we root for more than anybody before or after him. Shanahan will definitely not be mistaken for Joe Gibbs, but I think he is the right man at this time to get it turned around. If a few gaffes appear in the media which has far many more outlets than can be monitored, so be it. As long as his players respect him and yes, fear him, maybe that will help translate to opponents fearing and respecting the Redskins.

[Skinzfever2010]

I'll bet if I check your posting history prior to this you're not a Shanny fan, just a hunch....

You sir have my unyielding permission to look up post history as it pertains to coach. You might be surprised by what you find.

[Diesel Hog]

I'm bummed about JD, and was really hoping it would work here for him. I thought keeping 4 backs, with him, Hightower, Torrain, and Helu/Royster could make for a potent RB corp. Oh well, sucks that it happened, but at the end of the day it doesn't really affect the team. I have no issue with coach Shanahan's comments, but I do have issue with JD for walking out.

[jtpop]

What is the big deal your are talking about a RB who was near the bottom of the depth chart, we are not talking about the second coming of LT. If you want more carries and playing time then earn them. You couldn't fine the guy he wasn't making anything. Much ado about nothing in my opinion.

[Boss_Hogg]

OMG, everything about it is classless. That is the mans business. Would you like it if your boss went public with how much you made?

Professional Football is different, it's common knowledge to know player salaries.


Very ****ing classless. Worry about philly beating the **** of us on national TV Mike, or your dumb ass son blind faith in dumb **** QB who throws to anybody in sight (even if there not wearing our colors). Sometimes the people at the top make me wonder.

What does this have to do with what Shanahan said about James Davis?

[#98QBKiller]

Not classless at all, imo. The guy was obviously a thorn in Mike's side. Besides, why are we even discussing this loser?

This.


The guy is an over-hyped bum. I'm surprised the thread has survived this long.

[Skinzfever2010]

Professional Football is different, it's common knowledge to know player salaries.



What does this have to do with what Shanahan said about James Davis?

I'm emphasizing the fact that he should focus humiliating his opponents who owned him in his first year as head coach not a scrub RB he signed out of desperation last year. That is the kind of karma we don't need to coming back around on our all ready snake bitten franchise. Its ok though, the regular season is right around the corner. Torain is already hurt, and Tim has problems holding onto the ball. If Helu has a rough year adjusting to the pros we may need another RB.

Hail! (Professionalism is necessary)

[ouvan59]

umm i thought the pay during training camp is pretty standard among all players regardless of their contracts....

you only get paid during the regular season games...

if Shanhan just brought it up out of the blue then thats little classless.. if he was asked about what the Redskins would do then i dont see a problem with it... actually he explained it in plain english that Redskins are going to use common sense to not punish Davis unreasonably...

whats the problem with this again?

There is no problem. Davis' salary is public knowledge and the amount of money they make in the preseason is public knowledge. I'm sure the guys that are screaming about this were also screaming about the amount of money we paid Albert Haynesworth but now it's a problem that we know how much James Davis make. Please.. Shanahan was asked a direct question about whether they would fine Davis and he explained why they wouldn't. And I don't blame Shanahan for being pissed at Davis. He walked out of camp without telling a soul. They had to friggin track him down in Atlanta to find out if he was okay. Yeah, Shanahan is the bad guy in this. :doh:

[santanathegreat]

I'm emphasizing the fact that he should focus humiliating his opponents who owned him in his first year as head coach not a scrub RB he signed out of desperation last year. That is the kind of karma we don't need to coming back around on our all ready snake bitten franchise. Its ok though, the regular season is right around the corner. Torain is already hurt, and Tim has problems holding onto the ball. If Helu has a rough year adjusting to the pros we may need another RB.

Hail! (Professionalism is necessary)

LOL is this what it has come down to now? Bad mouthing Shannahan over "bad karma"? Oh boy.

[Skinzfever2010]

There is no problem. Davis' salary is public knowledge and the amount of money they make in the preseason is public knowledge. I'm sure the guys that are screaming about this were also screaming about the amount of money we paid Albert Haynesworth but now it's a problem that we know how much James Davis make. Please.. Shanahan was asked a direct question about whether they would fine Davis and he explained why they wouldn't. And I don't blame Shanahan for being pissed at Davis. He walked out of camp without telling a soul. They had to friggin track him down in Atlanta to find out if he was okay. Yeah, Shanahan is the bad guy in this. :doh:

If it was common knowledge why did he verbalize it? I'm sure he could have told the reporter "do the math" or " go look it up" even "we're just going to move in a different direction".

[Xameil]

If it was common knowledge why did he verbalize it? I'm sure he could have told the reporter "do the math" or " go look it up" even "we're just going to move in a different direction".

do you honestly think that JD only made $1500?

[Skinzfever2010]

LOL is this what it has come down to now? Bad mouthing Shannahan over "bad karma"? Oh boy.

He and Bruce were supposed to be repairing our image among fans and around the league. (sigh)

FAIL!

[ouvan59]

If it was common knowledge why did he verbalize it?

Because he was asked a direct question on whether they would fine Davis. Are you telling me that you wouldn't be able to find any NFL player's salary in 30 seconds?

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He and Bruce were supposed to be repairing our image among fans and around the league. (sigh)

FAIL!

You think this will have any repercussions anywhere in the sports world? Really? You are seriously looking for reasons to badmouth Shanahan.

[Skinzfever2010]

Because he was asked a direct question on whether they would fine Davis. Are you telling me that you wouldn't be able to find any NFL player's salary in 30 seconds?

Hmmm, do you know how many times he has been asked direct questions and either avoided answering them or redirected the question at the reporters. I can link you to some of his pressers last season if you would like? All I know is he got real direct about 3rd string RB when it wasn't necessary at all. Davis already made himself look foolish.

Fail!

[TK]

Imma tell you what happened.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OvpsDiRZtk&feature=youtube_gdata_player

[ouvan59]

Hmmm, do you know how many times he has been asked direct questions and either avoided answering them or redirected the question at the reporters. I can link you to some of his pressers last season if you would like? All I know is he got real direct about 3rd string RB when it wasn't necessary at all. Davis already made himself look foolish.

Fail!

Well I guess we'll all be breathlessly awaiting the leaguewide fallout of this.

[Skinzfever2010]

Well I guess we'll all be breathlessly awaiting the leaguewide fallout of this.

Fallout?

No, but in the real world perception is reality. People are constantly crying for more respect from the media and around the NFL well it doesn't come when you do things like this. Davis, doesn't help his cause either. You can't find work when things don't go your way and you think "walking out" is a problem solver. Two wrongs don't make a right.

Hail!

[TomE]

Perception is only a reality to the individual who holds the perception. Your perception is that Shanny's comments are classless, there are many others who do not peceive it the same way, what is the reality?

[Xameil]

what is the reality?

the reality is there is no spoon ;)

[I_Bleed_B&G]

Fallout?

No, but in the real world perception is reality. People are constantly crying for more respect from the media and around the NFL well it doesn't come when you do things like this. Davis, doesn't help his cause either. You can't find work when things don't go your way and you think "walking out" is a problem solver. Two wrongs don't make a right.

Hail!

He was a bottom of the ring RB that some of our own posters didn't even know he existed. This isn't getting any national attention because this dude is a nobody. How about he proves himself instead of walking out. He wanted more carries maybe, but maybe he sucked compared to the others so the coach didn't give him any.

[maddogtre]

Fallout?

No, but in the real world perception is reality. People are constantly crying for more respect from the media and around the NFL well it doesn't come when you do things like this. Davis, doesn't help his cause either. You can't find work when things don't go your way and you think "walking out" is a problem solver. Two wrongs don't make a right.

Hail!

The skin's win/loss record will have 1,000 times more to do with "respect from the media and around the NFL" than embarrassing a 7th string RB who argued with coaches and quit.

[Saqs]

Another undeserving, self-entitled dude gone. I thought he had talent but he obviously needs both a reality check and to step his work-ethic game up if he is ever to see any type of real field action again in this league.

[VRIEL1]

Another undeserving, self-entitled dude gone. I thought he had talent but he obviously needs both a reality check and to step his work-ethic game up if he is ever to see any type of real field action again in this league.

The funny part is he's stuck..... he either shows back up and talks with our coaches and looks to be cut or traded or he does not play ball ever again because the Skins hold his rights. He would have been better served to simply play louzy and get cut in order to go a team that needs a RB.

[doghouse4x4]

He and Bruce were supposed to be repairing our image among fans and around the league. (sigh)

FAIL!

Dude, are freaking serious? How many post are you gonna make?

If it was me, I would have told the press he wasn't here because he's a little b@(&#.

HTFU.