Indy was great team for Beck to get comfortable, Baltimore will be actual test.

[NoCalMike]

I don't really have many complaints regarding Beck's performance. While I'd like to see him go down field more, if that option isn't there, and you have some wide open in space who can get a lot of YAC, a completion is better then chucking it downfield into coverage.

With that said, Indy's defense seemed really laid back and subdued. Not making an excuse, but they really seemed to be vanilla. Also the running game again was running on mostly all cylinders which goes a loooong way to help a QB.

If Beck is starting against Baltimore, I expect that game to be much more of a true test as to how ready Beck is. Baltimore seems to only play at one speed on defense, whether it is regular season or preseason which is LUDICROUS speed.

I'm not going to sell our offense short and say they won't have same success running the ball against Baltimore, but I don't think it will come as easy or as often. It will have to be fought for a lot harder.

I think this is going to lead to a lot more realistic situations that Beck would see in the regular season. He will be under a lot more pressure.

I am not even saying Beck won't get it done and shine doing so. In fact it is a matchup I am looking forward to because I really want to see what Beck has to offer!

[Fred Jones]

The Beck haters should show themselves.

[Hitman21ST]

If Beck is starting against Baltimore, I expect that game to be much more of a true test as to how ready Beck is. Baltimore seems to only play at one speed on defense, whether it is regular season or preseason which is LUDICROUS speed.

I'm not going to sell our offense short and say they won't have same success running the ball against Baltimore, but I don't think it will come as easy or as often. It will have to be fought for a lot harder.

We did a good job against Pittsburgh, and they have a better defense than Baltimore IMO. They have many more playmakers on their defense, and arguably the best 3-4 coach in the history of the NFL.

But I agree with the sentiment that Bmore will be a better test than Indy.

[brandymac27]

If we can withstand the pressure from B'more's defense next week, and play an overall solid game, I'll start to get pretty damn excited.

[SpringfieldSkins]

Actually, if I'm not mistaken... game one of the regular season will be the ACTUAL test. Perhaps I'm wrong.

[TK]

The Beck haters should show themselves.
You should quit posting this in every thread before it gets considered as spam. ;)

[arkowi]

Are you posting this same comment in every beck thread?

[DOOG]

We did a good job against Pittsburgh, and they have a better defense than Baltimore IMO. They have many more playmakers on their defense, and arguably the best 3-4 coach in the history of the NFL.

But I agree with the sentiment that Bmore will be a better test than Indy.

I agree with this 100% But I do think that B-More will come at us a bit harder than Pitt did. Third game, starting to gameplan, etc.

[NoCalMike]

Also, keep in mind it happens to be the 3rd preseason game, which usually means it will be most like a regular season game. Starters tend to often play into the 3rd quarter, and it looks like Landry and Otogwe plan on being back, which means hopefully the secondary looks a ton better.

If we happen to run the ball all over Raven's defense, well hey that's great. I'm not saying we won't, I am just saying I think this game coming up will be more of a realistic test for Beck.

[Fred Jones]

You should quit posting this in every thread before it gets considered as spam. ;)

True, I just saw so many threads about the same subject matter that I wanted to make sure that my point and thought got across to everyone on the board. :)

And, it was just once, and it was not spam. Smarty, would be a more accurate definition.

[SpringfieldSkins]

Honestly, even if we stomp all over Bmore next week, I still can't get super happy.

I like the direction of the team, that's all I can say right now. Hopefully we can carry that on into the season. A failure to score inside the 20 is a huge, HUGE problem right now. Doesn't matter who the QB is in my opinion. As great as this team looks right now, if we can't score when we should then we are in serious trouble.

[brandymac27]

I think we'll play surprisingly well against next week. As NCM said, we'll have some of our other starters back including Landry which I'm really excited about, and I think we'll see a huge difference on defense.




True, I just saw so many threads about the same subject matter that I wanted to make sure that my point and thought got across to everyone on the board. :)

And, it was just once, and it was not spam. Smarty, would be a more accurate definition.

It wasn't just once. I saw it in the other thread too.
http://www.extremeskins.com/showthread.php?351990-The-QB-horserace&p=8469031&viewfull=1#post8469031

http://www.extremeskins.com/showthread.php?351992-PFT-John-Beck-Makes-it-Easy-on-the-Shanahans&p=8469032&viewfull=1#post8469032
Post #5

http://www.extremeskins.com/showthread.php?351980-Basillica-of-Beck&p=8469035&viewfull=1#post8469035

[TheRookie]

Agree with everything in the OP and what others have said. It should be a much greater challenge. Baltimore will almost undoubtedly take away at least one aspect of the offense where we've pretty much had our way in all aspects in the first two games. Red zone offense needs to be efficient and would hope we can work both the long and short passing game to keep the D honest. However, as the OP points out, if there giving you the underneath stuff, no need to take unecessary risks.

[Stew]

Beck looked a little uncomfortable, but I think he did well. I would like to see how he and the O-line do against the Ravens starters, but i was encouraged by what he did out there.

[jflow78]

I don't know if anyone was looking for it, but did anyone happen to know what type of coverage the Colts were playing? It seemed to me they were playing the safeties deep, which would have explained the lack of deep passes by Beck, since short and intermediate passes would have been the correct reads.

I did get a sense that the Colts were protecting the big passing play over anything else. Not positive on that, but maybe someone here was looking harder, or has Tivo.

[arkowi]

True, I just saw so many threads about the same subject matter that I wanted to make sure that my point and thought got across to everyone on the board. :)

And, it was just once, and it was not spam. Smarty, would be a more accurate definition.

This is actually one of three threads where you made the same "point"

And I don't even understand what you are talking about.

The other two:
http://www.extremeskins.com/showthread.php?351990-The-QB-horserace&p=8469031&viewfull=1#post8469031

http://www.extremeskins.com/showthread.php?351992-PFT-John-Beck-Makes-it-Easy-on-the-Shanahans&p=8469032&viewfull=1#post8469032

[SkinsTerps26]

no fred davis sighting?

[Truant]

What's going to be funny is if Beck starts or not.

Beck starting:
Oh my ****ing GOD! I knew that it wasn't a fair competition! I can't believe Beck gets two straight starts!

Beck not starting:
WTF!! Shanahan is just hiding Beck from good defenses to pad his stats! Unreal!!

[Last Fan Standing]

I would like to see how he and the O-line do against the Ravens starters, but i was encouraged by what he did out there.

This. Personally I think the bigger test next week will be how our O-line and D-line hold up against the Ravens. If the O-line continues to run block well I see no reason why the Skins can't have some success running the ball and it will be hard to really judge Beck if he doesn't have time. I think the O-line (and specifically Trent Williams) made more mistakes tonight than I remember them making last week against the Steelers. But if they play at a decent level then we can really see what Beck (and maybe Grossman if he gets some first team reps) have to offer.

...would love to see our D line continue to get pressure as well.

[OuterBanksTarHeel]

True, I just saw so many threads about the same subject matter that I wanted to make sure that my point and thought got across to everyone on the board. :)

And, it was just once, and it was not spam. Smarty, would be a more accurate definition.

And you should show yourself every time Beck makes a bad play, or has a bad game. People on message boards should eat crow every time a player they "hated" on in the past has a good game, makes a good throw, or completes a pass for a first down.

[Hitman21ST]

no fred davis sighting?

1 reception for 11 yards.

[georgiaredskin]

We did a good job against Pittsburgh, and they have a better defense than Baltimore IMO. They have many more playmakers on their defense, and arguably the best 3-4 coach in the history of the NFL.

But I agree with the sentiment that Bmore will be a better test than Indy.

Agreed. But I think Baltimore's D is a tad overrated. They are getting old. We a young, hungry team, now HON.

[bowhunter]

IMO, it would be smart to start Beck. We have seen Rex play in NFL games that count, and the 3rd pre-season game is gonna be as close as you can get for Beck. It will be his chance to stink or shine, and I don't think Shanny will deny him that.

[Hitman21ST]

IMO, it would be smart to start Beck. We have seen Rex play in NFL games that count, and the 3rd pre-season game is gonna be as close as you can get for Beck. It will be his chance to stink or shine, and I don't think Shanny will deny him that.

I actually think that they'll alternate either possessions or quarters. Enough to get a good read on both of them.

[djbubba4life]

Can we talk about Trent Williams getting beat?

[B55Green]

Maybe, maybe not, then again Grossman threw a pick against a worse defense, so what does that say?

[LD0506]

I agree w/ the OP, B-more will try to pound the Skins no matter what the circumstances. I want to see the line play on both sides show some consistency in this game more than anything else. Anyone that wants to nitpick the team so far has ample opportunity, but overall we are seeing a spirit and cohesion that has been lacking for a long time and I am curious to see how that plays out against a team that has tried to embarrass us before. Time for us to get a 'tude and bring it to games.

[skinsfanno9]

IMO, it would be smart to start Beck. We have seen Rex play in NFL games that count, and the 3rd pre-season game is gonna be as close as you can get for Beck. It will be his chance to stink or shine, and I don't think Shanny will deny him that.

We already know Rex's ceiling. With Rex, we aren't going anywhere special. While that may be the case for Beck as well, we at least aren't sure, so yeah, definitely declare Beck the starter unless some truly horrid performances come in the next few outings.

[SkinsTerps26]

Ravens D looks great. Everyone says they are old, but thats not really true. Ed Reed and Ray Lewis are old.

The ravens problem is their Offense, it looks terrible. Boldin and Flacco have no chemistry. The run game is average. Lee evens was their bright spot yesterday, but u can't count on that being the way they get to the superbowl. They downgraded their team IMO. But then again, ozzie is smarter than 99% of people at the game of football, so we'll see what happens with them next week.

[worstSeat]

Are you posting this same comment in every beck thread?

I bet he stops one before it becomes spam. ;)

I try not to get excited over the preseason, but it's hard not to with Beck. After Jax preseason a while back, you knew Carson Palmer's little brother wasn't NFL material. You don't know Beck isn't a pro right now, and that's good enough for me to be optimistic. I don't care if you don't have the long ball every time. Just make smart plays, and hello 8-8.

[GO HAMSKINS]

Typical Redskin preseason football Ha! After I've seen M.MASON lead all of the preseason in rushing for two years straight preseason doesn't mean as much to me as it does to the others.So let me get this Beck is the next Drew Brees and Hankerson is the next Rod Gardner ha! Relax people. Am I impressed yes,but Im not sold on anything yet. Marko Mitchell played lights outin the preseason.MM played way better than what Hankerson has shown us thus far,but how did that work out for us. Just saying Hankerson might become a regular season Stud,and Beck might be a regular season dud,just relax and wait for the final result people.Don't anoint Beck the next Steve young and don't label Hankerson the next 50/50 relax.


SMH

[Hitman21ST]

Can we talk about Trent Williams getting beat?

It happens to everyone. Freeney's one of the best speed rushers in the game, I wouldn't put too much stock in him getting beat once.

[GWinSkins83]

Typical Redskin preseason football Ha! After I've seen M.MASON lead all of the preseason in rushing for two years straight preseason doesn't mean as much to me as it does to the others.So let me get this Beck is the next Drew Brees and Hankerson is the next Rod Gardner ha! Relax people. Am I impressed yes,but Im not sold on anything yet. Marko Mitchell played lights outin the preseason.MM played way better than what Hankerson has shown us thus far,but how did that work out for us. Just saying Hankerson might become a regular season Stud,and Beck might be a regular season dud,just relax and wait for the final result people.Don't anoint Beck the next Steve young and don't label Hankerson the next 50/50 relax.


SMH

I feel you on not getting so high on the play in the preseason. But as a team we do seem like we do some chemistry. I see hungry players out there and I also see coach got them real competitive out there. I see alot of players fighting for playing time. Alot of position are not safe anymore on this team which brings the best out of players. We also have an identity now. How long has it been since we can say that. We as fans know what we are looking for. And when you look at our roster its not just 3 or four good players on one side of the ball and scrubs. This team has a future and seems like it has players that are welling to learn and work for everything they get on the field. Its no more premadanas. You can actually say our best players are blue collar players with styles. So yeah us fans shouldn't be jumping up and down about us going to the playoffs even have a winning record YET. But we can see real light at the end of the tunnel.

[PlayAction]

It happens to everyone. Freeney's one of the best speed rushers in the game, I wouldn't put too much stock in him getting beat once.

I saw two sacks that were on Williams. Williams was also letting the defender get into his pads and push him back on several ocassions. Not a good pass protection game for him IMO. The running game was great until the Skins switched to power blocking on the goal line. Either they need to get better in the power blocking approach + downhill running or they need to stretch it out like they normally do.