Per NFL.com - Vick out 3-4 Weeks

[steve09ru]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d82294d82/article/report-says-vick-will-miss-at-least-3-games-for-eagles?module=HP11_breaking_news

Looks like he'll be back after the bye week - missing 49ers, Buffalo and Skins

**edit - - no fracture, early reports wrong

[Goingforburgundy]

My fantasy team is pretty much screwed. Jamaal Charles Marques Colston and Vick...

[FanboyOf91]

As Mike Kafka awoke one morning from a troubled dream he found himself transformed in his bed into a monstrous insect.

[Hitman21ST]

So the Eagles are looking at a 1-5 start. Which means they'll end up probably about 7-9, if Vick stays healthy once he's back. How's that for a dream team, Vince?

[prsnljournalst3]

awesome, just increases our chances of winning the division.

[Tom [Giants fan]]

I have never been happy about an injury to an NFL player..........until now!!

[benskins26]

Dream Team my ass

[Yeen80]

The new Eagles are the old Redskins

[The Brave Little Toaster Oven]

:ols: :ols: :ols:

:rotflmao: :rotflmao:

great news...couldnt have happened to a better guy :thumbsup:

[benskins26]

this game tonight keeps getting bigger and bigger. With Vick out against us most likely, if we win tonight, we are really in the driver's seat for the NFC East.

[mboyd784]

Oh man, we are gonna terrorize Vince Young. Cant Wait.

[Audible_Red40]

If Kafka goes 1-3 in 4 starts, completes 53% of his passes and has a QB rating of 75, the Iggles will certainly land a first round pick and a pro bowl player in a trade.

[Gibbs Hog Heaven]

Westy does disappear at the most inopportune moments.

Hail.

[PokerPacker]

As Mike Kafka awoke one morning from a troubled dream he found himself transformed in his bed into a monstrous insect.

2Z4zMrNNxfg

[MartinC]

this game tonight keeps getting bigger and bigger. With Vick out against us most likely, if we win tonight, we are really in the driver's seat for the NFC East.

Steady - its only week 3 and there is a lot of football to play. Tonight is a big game (Dalls is a big game whatever the situation) and if we win it does make a statement but even if we win its very early to start thinking let alone talking about winning the division.

I will say having seen Dallas, Philly and NYG all play I dont see anything we cant compete with.

[darrelgreenie]

My fantasy team is pretty much screwed. Jamaal Charles Marques Colston and Vick...I have Vick too.
Thankfully my league has IR.
I picked up Hasselbeck last week so if he's available in your league you should be looking for QBs like him.

Depending on who the Eagles go with I would try picking up VInce Young.

-Cheers

[TD_washingtonredskins]

Steady - its only week 3 and there is a lot of football to play. Tonight is a big game (Dalls is a big game whatever the situation) and if we win it does make a statement but even if we win its very early to start thinking let alone talking about winning the division.

I will say having seen Dallas, Philly and NYG all play I dont see anything we cant compete with.

It is too premature to think about winning the division, but putting a second divisional opponent two games back after three games does in fact put us more firmly in the driver's seat for the division. It doesn't mean we'll stay there, but to have two teams behind by two games and another team behind by a game (and having already beat them) would be a huge step.

The difference between a win and loss tonight is gigantic. Neither guarantees anything of course, but being in a 3-way tie for first and only 1 game up on the Eagles isn't anything out of the ordinary for us in September. The result a W tonight is uncharted waters for us over the past decade or so.

[Stophovr6]

Awesome. Hope the trend continues.

[dockeryfan]

Slow down, people, it's week 3.

The Eagles aren't out of anything yet. This offensive line has looked horrendous, but everyone knew there would be growing pains with Mudd. They ran very well yesterday. The playcalling was quite bad, but they actually ran well. For some unknown reason, Reid reverts when he gets in the red zone. Throws in the flat to Thomas Tapeh come to mind. Yesterday it was Owen Schmitt, come on. He should have just given it to McCoy. But that's Reid. Running looked ok. I don't know if Mudd's system is ever going to get those tough short yards, but they ran the ball better than I can remember.

Vick out is good for the rest of the NFC East, but I think we all would have rather seen him miss games in NOV/DEC than OCT

[benskins26]

Steady - its only week 3 and there is a lot of football to play. Tonight is a big game (Dalls is a big game whatever the situation) and if we win it does make a statement but even if we win its very early to start thinking let alone talking about winning the division.

I will say having seen Dallas, Philly and NYG all play I dont see anything we cant compete with.

I know. I'm just saying we'd be in the driver's seat. At 2-0 in the Division, while NY is 1-1, Dallas 0-1, and Philly 0-1. We'd be in good shape early. Long way to go, but good start.
This is all assuming a win tonight of course, knock on wood.

[MartinC]

The difference between a win and loss tonight is gigantic. Neither guarantees anything of course, but being in a 3-way tie for first and only 1 game up on the Eagles isn't anything out of the ordinary for us in September. The result a W tonight is uncharted waters for us over the past decade or so.

I agree - I think a win would be huge and certainly make a statement. I just keep having flash backs to Zorn being 6-2 before the collpase though I do think we are a totally different organisation top to bottom now.

[ACW]

This is why I drafted Rodgers over Vick in round 1.

And watch it guys...karma.

[TD_washingtonredskins]

I agree - I think a win would be huge and certainly make a statement. I just keep having flash backs to Zorn being 6-2 before the collpase though I do think we are a totally different organisation top to bottom now.

Right...like I said, it guarantees nothing, but being 3-0/2-0 would be huge.

[Mr. Sinister]

Unless the Eagles get their **** together for the second half of the season (which isn't likely), they're finished.

---------- Post added September-26th-2011 at 11:57 AM ----------

And yeah, as I said before, a win tonight would be absolutely huge.

[WALEOVECHKIN]

Schefter's twitter:
AdamSchefter Adam Schefter
Eagles HC Andy Reid said Mike Vick underwent CT scan on hand today and it showed no fracture.

[kevinklein]

Vick out is good for the rest of the NFC East, but I think we all would have rather seen him miss games in NOV/DEC than OCT

He's played two games and suffered two injuries. Who's to say it wont happen again?

[dockeryfan]

Schefter's twitter:
AdamSchefter Adam Schefter
Eagles HC Andy Reid said Mike Vick underwent CT scan on hand today and it showed no fracture.

hmmm. No fracture, and Vick didn't play through. Interesting.

[benskins26]

Yep. Reid is saying it's a sprain. No break. Wonder if he'll still be out 3-4 weeks? I don't see it.

[Atlanta Skins Fan]

Early reports were confused. It was the hymen that was broken. The hand was only bruised.

[terpskins10]

This is why I drafted Rodgers over Vick in round 1.

And watch it guys...karma.

I laughed at anyone who thought Vick would replicate what he did last season. I like being right.

---------- Post added September-26th-2011 at 12:49 PM ----------


Early reports were confused. It was the hymen that was broken. The hand was only bruised.

:ols:

[visionary]

Apparently Vick might play on Sunday.

Did Romo lay hands upon him?

[Veretax]

The report I heard this afternoon was Not a fracture, just a Contusion, and Swelling. THe state of the swelling determines when he'll play again. Unfortunately they played this clip after lambasting Vick for complaining about the officiating. So I'm left to wonder, are they inferring Vick won't play until he shuts his trap? Or was it really a reference to Vick's ego thinking he's Tom Brady or Peyton Manning out there? LOL

[DM72]

The report I heard this afternoon was Not a fracture, just a Contusion, and Swelling. THe state of the swelling determines when he'll play again. Unfortunately they played this clip after lambasting Vick for complaining about the officiating. So I'm left to wonder, are they inferring Vick won't play until he shuts his trap? Or was it really a reference to Vick's ego thinking he's Tom Brady or Peyton Manning out there? LOL

He's a QB just as Brady and Manning, shouldn't he be treated as such? I see where Vick was coming from. How many times have we seen a defender just brush the helmet of Brady or Manning and the ref throws the flag? That's what I think he was getting at.

[BillyKilmer]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d82295cc4/article/eagles-qb-vick-could-return-for-week-4-if-swelling-goes-down?module=HP11_breaking_news

Eagles QB Vick could return for Week 4 if swelling goes down

[Tom [Giants fan]]

I hope Vick plays. The more he gets battered, the better.

[sideshow24]

Steady - its only week 3 and there is a lot of football to play. Tonight is a big game (Dalls is a big game whatever the situation) and if we win it does make a statement but even if we win its very early to start thinking let alone talking about winning the division.

I will say having seen Dallas, Philly and NYG all play I dont see anything we cant compete with.

3-0 with two division wins is HUGE.

[JoeSkins]

As Mike Kafka awoke one morning from a troubled dream he found himself transformed in his bed into a monstrous insect.

8/10

That is literally the only think I can think about when I see him in the game.

[NoCalMike]

Lets be honest, did the Eagles really look all that great with Vick against the Giants anyway? Of course Vick makes the Eagles better, but it isn't like they look like world beaters with Vick in there anyway.

[KingGibbs]

;8559293']I have never been happy about an injury to an NFL player..........until now!!

That is so classless...................and I love it.

Everytime I see Vick get hit I smile. Everytime he gets knocked out of the game I do the jig.

Like I've been saying, Karma is the name of the dog that will continue to bie Vick in the ass.

[TD_washingtonredskins]

He's a QB just as Brady and Manning, shouldn't he be treated as such? I see where Vick was coming from. How many times have we seen a defender just brush the helmet of Brady or Manning and the ref throws the flag? That's what I think he was getting at.

Do you think he takes more of a pounding than Big Ben? They both sit back there and extend plays for extra seconds that pocket passers don't (albeit in completely different ways). Because of that, refs have to give a little more latitude to the defenders. Illegal is illegal and I do think the refs missed one shot to the head on Vick...but that's one play and every team could have a gripe after every game if you're going to get that level of granularity. In the end though, I don't think Vick takes any more hits than the other QBs who move around and keep defenses honest.

[instinct21]

That is so classless...................and I love it.

Everytime I see Vick get hit I smile. Everytime he gets knocked out of the game I do the jig.

Like I've been saying, Karma is the name of the dog that will continue to bie Vick in the ass.

I agree. But I think Redskin fans need to check themselves when talking about players with off the field issues. We have a guy on our team that killed a human being while driving drunk. DUI Manslaughter. just sayin

[dockeryfan]

I agree. But I think Redskin fans need to check themselves when talking about players with off the field issues. We have a guy on our team that killed a human being with driving drunk. DUI Manslaughter. just sayin

You're really comparing Donte Stallworth with Michael Vick?

[instinct21]

You're really comparing Donte Stallworth with Michael Vick?

Yea. I'm not going to get into the story about how drunk driving has affected my life. Stallworth pleaded guilty and got just 30 days in jail. Pissed...now he's on my team.

Anyway...moving along.

[ross3909]

I would imagine this team and especially our defense would be a little disappointed if Vick was not under center when we play in a couple of weeks. If I were the D, I would have a little something waiting for the Eagles after the bye to say thank you for last years embarrasment..

[TD_washingtonredskins]

You're really comparing Donte Stallworth with Michael Vick?

I think it's worthy of conversation and not something that should just be dismissed like it's nothing. It's probably not the thread for this, but one man (unintentionally) killed another person while another man (intentionally) killed animals. I get the intent thing, I do, but I think any human life is much more severe than any number of animal lives. To be clear, that's not discounting animals at all...just putting an emphasis and premium on how valuable I feel a human life is.

[Ghost of Nibbs McPimpin]

Yea. I'm not going to get into the story about how drunk driving has affected my life. Stallworth pleaded guilty and got just 30 days in jail. Pissed...now he's on my team.

Anyway...moving along.

Except that there's pretty solid evidence that Stallworth took the blame no that case, far more than he should have, that his 'state' of intoxication had little or nothing to do with the accident and was a terrible coincidence while a man jaywalked on a high-speed thoroughfare. He also stayed at the scene with the man and didn't try to hide (from what I recall) or run from responsibility. That case, if anything, demonstrates the character of Stallworth. The two cases are NOTHING ALIKE. NOT ONE BIT.

Because a person loses a life, doesn't mean the person 'responsible' is an evil sadist. If a kid runs out in from of your car today but somehow people are out for blood and you end up pleading guilty, you are NOT a comparable case to a Michael Vick (or even a Pac-Man Jones...hello!!?!)

I hate when people bring up Stallworth. I admire the way he handled the case, he could have fought and gotten off altogether, he took responsibility and served 30 days because he is 1 )supposed to help pay the family restitution--hard to do if you serve years in jail and 2) was not fully culpable for what happened because someone ran across a busy road at night.

Yes, a human life is more valuable than a dog but context determines character. Otherwise, a person killing someone in self defense or an accident where the victim is just as much to blame is somehow morally equivalent to a sadist who DOESN'T kill anyone or a con artist who steals the life savings of entire families, ruining their lives.

[TD_washingtonredskins]

Ghost, I'm not down on Stallworth at all...I was simply agreeing that it's worthy of conversation. People make mistakes and deserve second chances. And, as you said, context is the key here.

[dockeryfan]

Intent. Responsibility.

He understood exactly what he did, and took every measure to try to own up to what he did. How does that even remotely compare to Vick.

[dan757]

Intent. Responsibility.

He understood exactly what he did, and took every measure to try to own up to what he did. How does that even remotely compare to Vick.
It does'nt Completely and totally different

[Mr. Sinister]

I just wonder why people keep coming into all of the Vick threads and bringing up the sam eissue time after time. We all know what happened, and it was a terrible act. Why continue to bring it up though when it has nothing to do with the topic at hand?

It's the same thing every time, the same posters, every time. I'm not trying to act "holier than though" or anything like that, but seriously, we know how his situation garners very hostile reactions from people, who will never forgive him for what he did. Cool, just stop coming into every thread and saying things that will potentially derail it, or get you or other people in trouble, when it originally had nothing to do with the original discussion. It really gets old.

[Ghost of Nibbs McPimpin]

Ghost, I'm not down on Stallworth at all...I was simply agreeing that it's worthy of conversation. People make mistakes and deserve second chances. And, as you said, context is the key here.

Oh, I meant to direct that more to instinct, I know what you meant and it's understandable but I think instinct is really upset about it and I'm explaining why they are not really the same, even if the life that was lost was more valuable (to us, at least.)

[Enter Apotheosis]

I just wonder why people keep coming into all of the Vick threads and bringing up the sam eissue time after time. We all know what happened, and it was a terrible act. Why continue to bring it up though when it has nothing to do with the topic at hand?

It's the same thing every time, the same posters, every time. I'm not trying to act "holier than though" or anything like that, but seriously, we know how his situation garners very hostile reactions from people, who will never forgive him for what he did. Cool, just stop coming into every thread and saying things that will potentially derail it, or get you or other people in trouble, when it originally had nothing to do with the original discussion. It really gets old.

The topic of virtually any Vick thread on a Redskins message board is generally going to revolve around a mutual dislike of the man as a football player and member of the Eagles. It's a starting point that's such a small jump away from discussion of Vick's character and actions off the field that a derailing is inevitable unless the mods decide to vigorously police a thread to keep it on track. Your best option if you dislike the whole animal abuse thing is to just learn to ignore it altogether and focus on the things you do find interesting in the thread. Complaining accomplishes nothing when people feel so strongly about a topic and, if anything, may even inflame the debate.

[brdawk20]

Yep. Reid is saying it's a sprain. No break. Wonder if he'll still be out 3-4 weeks? I don't see it.

They said a blood vessel was laying over the bone and was crushed on the hit. This is very painful and I understand why he didn't finish the game.

[TD_washingtonredskins]

They said a blood vessel was laying over the bone and was crushed on the hit. This is very painful and I understand why he didn't finish the game.

That sounds horrible.

[ConnSKINS26]

And watch it guys...karma.

No. **** karma, and **** Vick.

If there was such a thing as karma, Vick wouldn't have a shiny new $100 million contract right now and be living the life.

---------- Post added September-26th-2011 at 04:35 PM ----------


He's a QB just as Brady and Manning, shouldn't he be treated as such? I see where Vick was coming from. How many times have we seen a defender just brush the helmet of Brady or Manning and the ref throws the flag? That's what I think he was getting at.

Vick's a ****ing idiot if he thinks its just him who doesn't receive the "star" treatment from the refs.

Watch this mic'd up with Stafford from last week. The Chiefs are clearly getting frustrated and taking late shots on him constantly, because they're getting their asses kicked and they know he's injury prone. The refs do start calling it eventually though, as Stafford says something.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51JceEEYjLk

Even if you think similar **** happens to Vick, he's not alone. And its arrogant for him to act like he is.

[pjfootballer]

If you want a terrible drunk driving story to compare to, Leonard Little is the one to bring up. Multiple arrests for drunk driving and after he killed a woman.

[Veretax]

He's a QB just as Brady and Manning, shouldn't he be treated as such? I see where Vick was coming from. How many times have we seen a defender just brush the helmet of Brady or Manning and the ref throws the flag? That's what I think he was getting at.


No my point was a lot of people feel that Brady and Manning last year at least, were getting more than their fair share of calls compared to the rest of the QB Crop. Even if I agreed that maybe 'they should get those calls being the top 2 QBs in the league' I'd still be arguing that Vick is not that great a QB. If it was Brees or Rivers, maybe they'd have an argument.