3rd and 21.. clearly the play of the game.. Fault Haslett?

[shakinaiken]

we all know it.. this play in the 4th quarter was the game.. so,bad call by haslett? or just good luck by romo and bryant? thoughts..

[andy1282]

3-21. All out blitz. You lost the game. Singlehandeldy. Could we have scored a td or more, Sure. But this is a typical tough NFC east game. Thats how this games go. You dont get pretty. You play tough. Haslestt lost it. And only him remember that. 3rd and 21 and all out blitz with single coverage...

[SloppyOneXXVI]

Sending 8 there is stupid. Send 6 and have two back deep. We got over-aggressive, and it cost us the game.

[SittingBull]

bad call, no reason to go all in at 3rd and 21 but the defense as a whole played great the rest of the game. They kept them out the endzone, the offense lost the game not the defense.

[Dex_is_the_Manley]

I had a gut feeling that was going to be converted. Told my dad right before the play NOT to rush everyone! send some back in coverage. Damnit.

[mmzznnxx]

Come on, Kyle Shanahan's playcalling is just as much to blame in my opinion, if not more so. For the most part, the defense was stellar. They kept us in the game.

[shakinaiken]

We all know it, this was the play that inevitably led to our doom.. so bad play call by haslett? or just dumb luck by romo and bryant?

[mmzznnxx]

Double post, please delete,

[skinzplay]

Horrible coverage by Hall. I'll have to see the play again, but he was slow getting to the ball and/or getting between the ball and Bryant. Horrible.

[authentic]

absolutely the worst call of the friggin season so far..Ughh!!!......Look you know what let me get to sleep before i get banned to saying somethings I don't mean. Peace out!!!!

[NewEraofSkins08]

I couldn't believe it!!! All out blitz on a 3rd and a mile....unreal. Kinda like a call he made back in week 2 last year against Houston. That game turned our season into a downward spiral, and this loss is going to sting this team bad. 2-2 heading into the bye, maybe they can recoup.

[Backpack3r]

Doesnt make any sense at all. Even I, as an avid professional Madden player would never do that. The only time you send that many is when its a run or 3rd and short. Very bad play call, very very bad, i dont blame Deangelo for that. It was all Jim Haslett. Why would you do that?

[Big Will]

If you told me we would hold Dallas to 18 points and no touchdowns, I would take it.

That play was ridiculous. But, we blitzed and Romo still had enough time to get the ball down the field.

There is plenty of blame to go around. But, Haslett and the defense is not at the top of my list.

[HailGreen28]

I can't bring myself to blame the d, after that goal line stand earlier.

The D carried us until the very end. This loss was on the refs, and our offense.

[jkypoo]

It took everyone working together to lose this one. How about the offensive protecting the lead with a steady ground game. Working the clock and such.

[Slacky McSlackAss]

Bad coverage combined with a lucky ass bounce (which was like the 10th one of the game for Dallas) lead to that 1st down.

[21Knock_U_Out]

No, If D Hall dosnt get turned around on that play, he makes an int or at least the tackle before the first down.

[RiggosMohawk]

I was calling for the fake blitz, but that wasn't the call.

Our drive before this was the game. We were rolling, and Jamaal gets completely frozen at the snap by Ware. Sack, huge loss, 3d down fail, punt.

[redunion1940]

Or the botched field goal kick, or the collapse of the right side of the line in crucial situations, or the bogus 15 yard face mast on that 3-21. Or rex not getting rid of that ball, or the red skins not finishin when they had the chance. Redskins lost, Dallas didn't beat them.

[Gibbs Hog Heaven]

The defense was poor late, yet again.

But the O left a bunch of points on the field. Again. The ST ****** up a kick. Again. Rex had his worst game of the season, and why Kyle never utilized FreddyD, ala last season, is beyond me.

So this is on far more than Haslett and the D,

Hail.

[dfitzo53]

I don't agree with some of the calls, but a football game never comes down to one play. You aren't going to win many NFL games scoring 16 points, especially on the road. Even allowing for the banged-up offense, the Cowboys didn't get into the end zone once.

I'd like to know why we didn't get more sacks sending 6 and 8 men at a time against an offensive line that was clearly struggling so badly.

[blchizzleke]

yeah no excuse leaving dez bryant one on one on that play when he was one of their two competent options to throw the ball to (witten obviously being the other). terrible call and it came back to bite us.

[Shawn12]

I was screaming "No" the whole time. Couldn't believe you would all out blitz again on 3rd and 21 considering the only pressure we got on Romo was with the help of his center. Bring pressure. Sure. But D Hall is totally unersized for one-on-one with Bryant. You could feel it coming barring an error by the Dallas center.

[Gibbs Hog Heaven]

Repeat post. Darn lag.

Hail.

[RiggosMohawk]

Double post - delete

[DJD2]

The more things change, the more they stay the same.

Easy to 2nd guess that call, but they kept Dallas out of the endzone, and they were also 3 for 13 on 3rd down.

[HailSkins83]

Yeah, Defense lost this game.... how about the Offense sucked and couldnt score when it counted....

[NicholSkin]

Possibly the worst defensive call I have ever seen.

D. Hall and Wilson were never ALL THAT and never will be.

[BuddyLeeGhostHunter]

It worked all game. The Cowboys were merely lucky enough to get the time to throw this time. It wasn't a horrible call.

If any side lost us the game it was the offensive side. You can't score 16 measly points and expect to win a road game. You can't have that many opportunities and fail to produce.

The defense did a decent job tonight and were put in a corner consistently.

[hunterx]

Hall blew that play. It wasn't a complicated route. Dez actually stood still until Romo pointed for him to run. Hall took a step toward him for no reason and then turned his hips outside for ... No reason since Bryant was inside the whole time.

[DeaconTheVillain]

If they were able to get to him and he had to get rid of it quick we would all be praising the pressure and loving it.

It is what it is. The all out blitz was working for the most part. It just happend that Romo back peddled pretty quick and we couldn't get the pressure we needed to get.

I blame our FG blockers more than anyone else.

Its a long season. We are 2-1 and 1/2 game out of first. Let's just hope we get a split with Dallas and blow em out at Fed Ex

Hail.

[TD_washingtonredskins]

I can't bring myself to blame the d, after that goal line stand earlier.

The D carried us until the very end. This loss was on the refs, and our offense.

Refs? What calls did you disagree with?

[dfitzo53]

I don't agree with some of the calls, but a football game never comes down to one play. You aren't going to win many NFL games scoring 16 points, especially on the road. Even allowing for the banged-up offense, the Cowboys didn't get into the end zone once.

I'd like to know why we didn't get more sacks sending 6 and 8 men at a time against an offensive line that was clearly struggling so badly.

[windsofcreation]

Ok so it's 3rd and 21. Jim Haslett calls an all out blitz. The third such call in a row.

If we played man with 2 deep safeties the Redskins win this game. Unbelievable.

So. Was it the worst defensive call you've ever seen?

Maybe it's the heat of the moment and I'm overreacting but wow. That was just an incredibly idiotic call IMHO.

[Zarg]

What would we have to gain with a sack there? 3rd and 21.... Would they go for it on 4th, probably... Blocked kick lost it for us.....

[Lone Star Skin Fan]

You can point to a lot of things but that call by Haslett has to be at the very top. That is what you call not putting your team in the best position to win.

[Polo3]

Ridiculous across the board!!! bumbling snap for FG hurt as well!!

[PortisBetts]

If you dont blame the offense your crazy...18 points away in dallas with no touchdowns and a turnover and MULTIPLE stops? come on...no killer instinct for 20 years

[shakinaiken]

merge time

[Skinsfanatic_1]

It took everyone working together to lose this one. How about the offensive protecting the lead with a steady ground game. Working the clock and such.

I'll second that. I'll even take it a step further and say that the defense isn't the problem. We need a consistent run game and a serious deep threat.

[HogNose]

3rd & 21 ..if we get Romo then Haslett is a hero. He didn't lose the game. We weren't aggressive enough on offense. Red zone offense lost the game.

[Mr. Nostril]

Losing a game like that is a team effort and a number of people deserve a portion of the blame. But if I had to blame it on one person: Sav Rocca

[Bang]

Yes, a defense that held the Cowboys to no touchdowns is at fault.

And the special teams that left the winning points on the field are not.

I'd rather not get a 7 day sit, so let's just say I'm thinking of a word that rhymes with "shmidiot"

~Bang

[askounes]

This game was so bizarre on several levels that I can't even begin to "break it down". I'm willing to call that whole mess an "anomaly" and just move on to next week.

[Bacon]

You can't allow a team to win with nothing but field goals, but our offense allowed it. I have very little negativity to send the defense's way, but I swear I've seen this game play out several times a year, every year, since I was 5 because of our lack of offense.

[Crazy Levi]

Nope.

The offense lost this game not the defense.

[21Knock_U_Out]

The D played good. Turnovers, sacks. Held Dallas to no td's. The offense didn't have it to night, give credit to Dallas D and Rexs turnovers.

[Parker]

I agree 110% worst call.

[milellie111]

Reason why Jim Hasbeen was fired as a head coach. He's an idiot

[1972FAN]

Who cares we lost, Haslett does'nt Quarterback the team, open palming the ball on the run.

[Sticksboi05]

Yeah, Defense lost this game.... how about the Offense sucked and couldnt score when it counted....

Read sir. He said HASLETT'S CALL, not the defense. The defense does what its told. It was told to be moronic. 3rd and 21, they are out of field goal range and you go all-out blitz? Are you kidding me? Leave Hall in 1-on-1 coverage. Absolutely cost us a chance to ice the game. Let them get their 10 yard completion and call it a night.

Horrible. I was enraged watching. There was zero, zero reason to call 8 on the blitz there.

[Lone Star Skin Fan]

Who is blaming the defense? Haslett is the one to blame

[Ruff Stuff]

So our 31st ranked defense needs to hold other teams to 15 or less this season to win? This offense looked worse than the colts with Painter :doh:

[GoDeep81]

Lots of bad plays cost us this one.. Hasslet calling a blitz there was definitely one of them.. blocked fg, absolutely no bouces going our way, and poor poor play calling were also big factors.. Rex wasnt very good either.. I wouldnd mind the loosing so much if it wasnt against a team that's THAT sloppy.. How many snaps hit Romo in the chest and dropped, yet we get nothing from any of them.. They actually gained alot of yards on those plays..

[TheDiplomat]

That play surely hurt to watch. Even more so with the 15 yard penalty added, but this game was an all around loss. D couldn't hold up after playing a stellar 3 and 3/4 quarters (story of the last decade) Offense couldn't score a TD after a huge Defensive play when we put them on the 10, and ST with absolutely NO running lanes for Banks. Ans Banks deciding to cut to the short side of the field at least on 2 kick returns. ALL AROUND loss

[buenosdiaz]

2nd and 8 on the cowboys 40 letting grossman drop back...run the ball get a decent 3rd down and figure it out from there

[Parker]

Possibly the worst defensive call I have ever seen.

D. Hall and Wilson were never ALL THAT and never will be.

I personally thought Wilson played one hell of a game but that's just my opinion.

[DavidGQ]

I was surprised by the call but I think they want a turn over or quick pass. Anyway, can't blame anyone. Both teams played hard and they won at home. No shame in losing this one.

[mikemac9]

Hard to fault a defense that held the opposing team to FG's...Offense let this game get away through an ineffective play down the stretch.

[sugarbear326]

Kyle's play calling was horrible, not creative, very predictable, c'mon Kyle...

[PortisBetts]

Read sir. He said HASLETT'S CALL, not the defense. The defense does what its told. It was told to be moronic. 3rd and 21, they are out of field goal range and you go all-out blitz? Are you kidding me? Leave Hall in 1-on-1 coverage. Absolutely cost us a chance to ice the game. Let them get their 10 yard completion and call it a night.

Horrible. I was enraged watching. There was zero, zero reason to call 8 on the blitz there.

I agree that call was bad. Shouldnt matter when you hold a team to no touchdowns and only 18 points, again with multiple stops on 3rd down to end drives. Ill take 18 points against us any day of the week. Offense and special teams failed us once again.

[DieselPwr44]

How in the blue hell is this Haslett's fault?

Would you like to know why we lost this game?

Because we have an oline who's run blocking scheme is based totally on finese and has no power whatsoever in short yardage and goaline situations.

We needed to grind out yards in the fourth quarter and we had no ability to do so.

Plus we have an OC that ran a total of TWO screens the whole ball game and a QB that refuses to throw to a back in the flat because he wants to go deep all the freakin time.

The Norv is still strong within this franchise and I'm seriously doubting that there's a cure.

[Sticksboi05]

It worked all game. The Cowboys were merely lucky enough to get the time to throw this time. It wasn't a horrible call.

If any side lost us the game it was the offensive side. You can't score 16 measly points and expect to win a road game. You can't have that many opportunities and fail to produce.

The defense did a decent job tonight and were put in a corner consistently.

You are failing to take into account the situation. If you want to play hard ball in the 2nd quarter, fine. With 2 minutes left in the 4th and up by a point, you play it SMART and play a prevent there and let them get their 10 yards and 4th and long. Instead you give them the once chance to get the big play. Hall 1-on-1 with any halfass receiver is a mismatch.

That was a horrible, horrible decision.

[dieselfan44]

One of the worst defensive calls I've ever seen....how can I sit in my living room, never having coached a football game and be screaming for the D to back up and cover and he doesn't know to do that...you blitz to get it into 3rd and long...then you back your ass off and cover....probably doubling their best best reciever, who happened to catch the ball...hopefully he will learn from this and not cost us another game....If you put this on Grossman you have no knowledge of the game.

[skinfan13]

A lifetime of watching the skins be nothing but mediocre to awful. I am SO ****ING FED UP with these ****-punting dick-sucking mother-****ing losers. What a bunch of over-paid prima donna ass muchers. I'm so SICK AND ****ING TIRED of the goddam Redskins. ONCE, just ****ing ONCE in my lifetime could you please win a ****ING GAME of goddam consequence? ONCE you MOTHER ****ERS

[shakinaiken]

what i find to hard to believe is that, of all the botched snaps by by cowboys center phul costa, we couldnt get one fumble recovery... seriously, romo was in the backfield scrambling like 5 times

[The Slamming Butcher]

I don't know about worst EVER, but it was pretty dang bad.

[MonkFan8]

There were two players on the Dallas offense that could possibly beat us and we let it happen with the game on the line. Hall was characteristically awful.

Can anyone tell me why our receivers were playing 10 yards off when Romo needed to get rid of the ball in 3 seconds to avoid getting hit?

That all-out blitz call was phenomenally stupid when we were literally unable to get pressure all night.

[RedskinWill]

Simple guys you can't fault haslett the offense only scored 16 PT and no consistency today...ask NE if they don't mind having a defense that only gave up FG's? I blame it on the offense!

[Smurf85]

I agree that was one of the worst calls I've ever seen. I mean if anything fake the all out and drop some guys back. As far as I'm concerned the whole coaching staff lost us the game. Our play calling in the red zone was a joke and it was last year too. As far as I see it we are pretty much the same team with a few upgrades. We will probably be 8-8 when the year is done. We will have to do something to trade up and get a QB, because Rex isn't the answer.

[HogNose]

Close this god damn thread, it is not Haslett's fault. They didn't score a damn TD, and we had them on their heels the whole game. Our Redzone offense lost it.:rant: F them, we will end up with a better record and beat them in DC. Oh also...F THE DAMN REFS.

[Bubble Screen]

We all know it, this was the play that inevitably led to our doom.. so bad play call by haslett? or just dumb luck by romo and bryant?If our holder doesn't botch the snap, we probably end up winning the game. One play didn't cost us the game.

[luckydevil]

Just an awful awful play call. Good for Casserly calling him out on it.

[Phil Lesh]

When the Skins failed to score the TD after the fumbled completion to Ogletree I knew they were in trouble.

[sugarbear326]

Please tell me how you let a player ( Dez Bryant) beat you and on every play he is limping out to the formation. D Hall, if you can't play a player man up who is injured, you're not that Good!!!

[1972FAN]

I'm more pissed off listening to Mike ASS KISSER Trico that guy is beyond bias.

[skinsfan1523]

Idiotic, absolutely, but I don't know about worst. This loss is on the offense and their inability to finish regardless, that play should be irrelevant.

[dfitzo53]

Or the botched field goal kick, or the collapse of the right side of the line in crucial situations, or the bogus 15 yard face mast on that 3-21. Or rex not getting rid of that ball, or the red skins not finishin when they had the chance. Redskins lost, Dallas didn't beat them.
The facemask was there. According to the new rules there's no 5-yarder, so when you have even a tiny bit of grab it's a personal foul.

The Cowboys had more penalties than us the whole way though, and we got away with a pretty huge hold at the end of the game. I don't think there's much to blame the refs for.

[81+83+84=Posse]

I was calling for the fake blitz, but that wasn't the call.

Our drive before this was the game. We were rolling, and Jamaal gets completely frozen at the snap by Ware. Sack, huge loss, 3d down fail, punt.

Honestly, I think Ware was offside on that play and a couple others with no call.

[SWFLSkins]

The team is 2-1 and might use this loss to bounce back. And for the topic I hate prevent defense so NO. The D.Hall coverage tonight sucked. He ran his mouth more than his legs.

[NicholSkin]

I personally thought Wilson played one hell of a game but that's just my opinion.

He did, but I wouldn't trust him or Hall to lock down any above average receiver in crunch time man to man. That being said, they were set up for failure, by the play call.

[addicted]

If he doesn't call that play this game was won.
It was against Dallas
Worst call ever? No
Other aspects of the game contributed to this as well

[Dan T.]

High risk/high reward call that didn't pay off. I like the defense playing aggressively, but wow, it's a kick in the gut when it backfires.

[terpfan]

Terrible, awful, mindboggling call. I dont know what Haslett was thinking.

[GibbsFactor]

Great call. Romo made a play.

[JoeJGibbs]

I dont have a problem with the call as I do with the execution. For an all out blitz, Romo had way too much time. The entire defense seemed to run into each other and log jam the blitzing lanes.

I'd say it was impossible to send 8 and not have the ball come out on a hot read if I didn't just see it happen.

[SAli457180]

Romo is no idiot. He saw the Skins were going to bring the house and has the mobility to evade the sack. Coverage would have been better. Dumb@ss D. Hall compounded the problem with the facemask.

[DM72]

That was a horrible call. You make them complete two 10.5 yard plays.

[ATLredskin]

that damn Haslett...why am I not surprised

[MDTERPS27]

Essentially the defensive version of the swinging gate play. It's on the same plane as far as I'm concerned. Terrible, terrible, embarrassing defensive play call.

[trimee]

The worst call Ive ever seen was the swinging gate. Twice in a row.

[Skinsinparadise]

Yeah, Defense lost this game.... how about the Offense sucked and couldnt score when it counted....

OK, he had a bad call, but the defense was outstanding. To me this was on the offense, after that TD drive, they were pathetic IMO.

[Yeen80]

I'm OK with the call. Romo made a great play and turned Deangelo around. I'm not as annoyed by that as I was with the 15 face-mask after the catch

[HogNose]

If we get Romo and stop them then Haslett is a hero. Blame the red zone offense for this ****ing debacle. They got their pts. off FG'S, Blame boy wonder and his non-aggressive play calling.

[dieselfan44]

I could see a rookie DC doing that, but damn he's been around a long time...stupid!

[RedskinWill]

Offense lost the game with the inconsistency on drives not able to convert for TD in the redzone again and again and again! Why blame a defense that only gave up FG? You can't win in the NFL scoring 16 PTs come on guys!

[Bobbyst21]

I'll refrain till tomorrow to post on this.Give me a minute to rewatch the game.Hey i sound like a coach huh?

[charles mannley]

I don't know I could think of a lot of plays that lost it. I was hoping for a fake blitz on 3rd and 21, but I have zero faith in sexy rexy at the end. I wish shanahans would have run it more at the end. sick uf the special team **** ups. And what about Jackson going after the fullback on that run for 40 yards and gave up containment. I didn't see what he could have possibly bit on.

[Yeen80]

Essentially the defensive version of the swinging gate play. It's on the same plane as far as I'm concerned. Terrible, terrible, embarrassing defensive play call.

Not really. The swinging gate was a kick in the balls towards Snyder

[dieselfan44]

I'm OK with the call. Romo made a great play and turned Deangelo around. I'm not as annoyed by that as I was with the 15 face-mask after the catch facemask was BS...he didn't even grab it...

[TheGloryDays]

I hate to say it but this team has yet again got my hopes up only to have reality come crashing down on me. The defense is just okay, would have been a whole lot different had Austin been active and had their center been even remotely adequate. I feel like we just wore down on both sides of the ball as the game went on.

Offensively, Rex was bad. That said, the play calling was predictable and if we can't get 4 yards on a first down run, this is going to be a long ugly season. Our running game seems to be either 1-2 yards or 9 to 10 yards... we either open a lane or we don't, I'm not sure if its just the nature of our running scheme or if Hightower and Helu just aren't great at fighting for extra yardage, but seeing 2nd and 9 all game isn't going to cut it. And again, the play calling was just dreadful, it was conservative when we needed to be aggressive, and aggressive when we needed to maintain drives.

The defense is just okay. Orakpo and Kerrigan need to be able to get pressure without sending two extra guys. There's two ways to look at all the snapping problems the cowboys had. Yes, they got lucky and recovered every single one of them, but had they been able to snap the ball, say... like a normal NFL team should be able to, we would have been in even worse situations than we were. We totally lost our intensity in the second half, even with the stops on the goal line.

It was the classic Redskins game though, play not to lose. Funny how it always seems to have the same result. I'm thinking we got the Giants on an off day and Arizona basically stinks.

[shakinaiken]

Terrible, awful, mindboggling call. I dont know what Haslett was thinking.

i will play devils advocate her... decent call, with that many blitzers, Romo has no choice but to throw a prayer- whcih he did( and resulted in an int last time). This time romo throw a another desperate floater, and unfortunately Bryant made a play on the ball

[luckydevil]

Hall is overrated and no where near an elite conerback, but blaming him for what happened on that play is frankly ridiculous. That's on Haslett.

[GSF]

Terrible call.

[SloppyOneXXVI]

This loss isn't the DEFENSIVE PLAYERS fault AT ALL.

HOWEVER, Haslett's call on 3-21 was terrible. Yes, the game was tight. Sure the Rocca fumbled snap was a problem. BUT, after all the fight, after all the mistakes ON BOTH SIDES, you have ONE play you need to stop them... and you don't double their only deep threat? You allow a receiver ~6 inches taller than D. Hall alone on an island? Of course Romo is going to throw up a prayer. How can Haslett be confident D. Hall is going to stop that play? I think D. Hall is a great corner, but stopping a jump ball is not his game. Roll Atogowe to that side, or keep both safeties deep. SOMETHING other than blitzing 8. The play call was overly aggressive to the point of stupidity.

[Winning Season Please!]

One of the worst defensive calls I've ever seen....how can I sit in my living room, never having coached a football game and be screaming for the D to back up and cover and he doesn't know to do that...you blitz to get it into 3rd and long...then you back your ass off and cover....probably doubling their best best reciever, who happened to catch the ball...hopefully he will learn from this and not cost us another game....If you put this on Grossman you have no knowledge of the game.

I am confused. You are not blaming Rex but the defense? The defense who gave up zero TDs and stopped them twice inside the 10? Hmmmn, interesting. Their is plenty of blame to go around and Rex deserves his fair share.

[SirClintonPortis]

He lost us the Ravens preseason game with this same "all out blitz" ****. I want to have my team be able to PROTECT ANY 3 point lead be it 9-6 or 30-27. All all-out blitz on 3rd and 21 WILL FAIL if the blitz is picked up, and the Boys were picking up blitzes ALL GAME.

[Sticksboi05]

Great call. Romo made a play.

Are you trolling? With 2 minutes left, up by a point, and your opponent out of FG range by a long shot, you absolutely do NOT take the risk of leaving anyone 1-on-1 deep on 3rd and 21. That is basic football. Basic, basic, common sense. A simple prevent and we probably win. I was irate after the play.

I know you're trolling, nobody could believe that was a smart decision. A+.

[SkinsHokieFan]

Lack of execution from a mediocre QB is what cost us this game

[Bang]

Simple guys ..

You've nailed the problem with this thread.

A bunch of simple guys are posting in it..

Why do you blitz?
It had worked all damn night, that's why. You have a center who is pissing his PANTS and snapping the ball at random for cryin' out loud. Romo is hurt.
for years we scream that the Prevent prevents nothing, we watch teams drive on us in the end of games for years and we scream for pressure.
We get it and the board cries when they make a play.


And again, I'll point out, if the special teams coach can drill his players to do an automatic snap hold, this thread doesn't even exist.

~Bang

[delmarvan]

This play cost us the game simple as that!, but not capitalizing on all those chances at turnovers certainly helped a lot. So frustrating!

[dieselfan44]

I'll refrain till tomorrow to post on this.Give me a minute to rewatch the game.Hey i sound like a coach huh? ain't gotta watch it again....I knew it was retarded when it happened

[Rodriggo]

Ok so it's 3rd and 21. Jim Haslett calls an all out blitz.

Completely agree. That's two games in a row now where they've gotten burned on it.

Fitzgerald last week and Bryant this week.

3rd and 21 and they get 30? Wouldn't it be better to blitz one guy or nobody and have them get a 21 yard play?

Got shockingly little pressure on Romo against a weak o-line.

Defense got it done though. 6 FGs on the road? 18 pts? Good job.

[Enter Apotheosis]

Blitzing was the right move, showing all-out blitz was the right move, but actually all-out blitzing was ill-advised. That said, it wasn't the worst call imaginable and you have to put a fair amount of blame on the players for what amounted to a really weak pass rush and a receiver who could have been better defended.

[Sticksboi05]

If we get Romo and stop them then Haslett is a hero. Blame the red zone offense for this ****ing debacle. They got their pts. off FG'S, Blame boy wonder and his non-aggressive play calling.

By that point in the game, there is nothing to be done about all that. We, in spite of all that, were in position to win and that call gave Dallas their only chance to convert. You think if we go prevent, they convert a play of over 21 yards?

[shakinaiken]

this is already being talked about in another thread... haha sorry, my own thread

[skins2victory]

It was over agressive.... I like the way Haslett called the rest of the game though

[Bacon]

If we get Romo and stop them then Haslett is a hero. Blame the red zone offense for this ****ing debacle. They got their pts. off FG'S, Blame boy wonder and his non-aggressive play calling.

Hey, we managed a TD.

Oh hell, why am I arguing for the offense? They were the very reason we lost.

This might be the most hyperbolic thread ever, btw.

[deejaydana]

you can say we make that play and game is over, but given the time left Dallas would have gone for it on 4th down as well. Still, even Gruden and Jaws were implying it was a very unusal call to make in that situation. The bottom line for me is w/so many Dallas miscues on offense in that game, we should have won outright to begin with, ***sigh***

[1198skinsfuture]

3-21. All out blitz. You lost the game. Singlehandeldy. Could we have scored a td or more, Sure. But this is a typical tough NFC east game. Thats how this games go. You dont get pretty. You play tough. Haslestt lost it. And only him remember that. 3rd and 21 and all out blitz with single coverage...

hellllll nooooo meangelo hall blew it...hasnt made a play all year, talked smack, and got burned twice, and on this play he added a facemask...that is solely on execution or lack there of...and the offense SETTLING FOR FG's

[HogNose]

Wow no one is blaming the terrible red zone offense that resulted in FG's??? :wtf: It backfired but if we stop them its done. ZERO TD's. Anyway blame little Shanny and his play calling.

[BuddyLeeGhostHunter]

You are failing to take into account the situation. If you want to play hard ball in the 2nd quarter, fine. With 2 minutes left in the 4th and up by a point, you play it SMART and play a prevent there and let them get their 10 yards and 4th and long. Instead you give them the once chance to get the big play. Hall 1-on-1 with any halfass receiver is a mismatch.

That was a horrible, horrible decision.That's all in assuming you cover it. The blitz didn't get home and it killed them. Romo had all day and probably would have completed it with even less pressure.

Hindsight is 20/20 and we don't know what would have happened. It's easy to second guess one play. However, it was working all night. Haslett merely went with his bread and butta'.

[Frediemac]

Yes but hindsight is well you know...You got to blame the O Line and the Offense for not moving the ball with a 16-15 lead. That's were it was lost. Moss with a Catch and a Penalty but then the offense fell apart.

[thesubmittedone]

Guys, if you're going to fault Haslett for that than you have to fault Shanahan, because he's the one who can over rule any defense that's called.

But that's ridiculous. Our blitzing was the reason we held them in check for most of the night. They made a play, get over it. Move on.

[TD Riggo]

Sending 8 was ridiculous! But I agree that this game was lost as a team effort. We have way more weapons than they, and yet we managed to only get one freaking TD. This team the last two weeks has lacked the ability to get into a rhythm and keep drives alive. We may have great T.O.P., but we don't have the ability to put our foot on the throats of opposing defenses and put the hammer down!

I would just like to one year before I die, see a Redskins team that has a killer instinct like the Skins of '91! I know I'm probably expecting too much for this year (I mean, everyone was predicting a 6-10 season), but I would just like to see that one more time before I die. Imagine the pride of walking off the field in DallASS tonight, the hushed crowd, and the pride of knowing that we beat them in THEIR house! Oh .. and shutting up all of the idiots on BSPN whom, across the board, picked the Girls to win! Now, we've got to put up with another week of Tony-Romo-the-miracle-worker bull****! They were a laughingstock tonight, and yet they beat us with SIX FREAKING FIELD GOALS!!

.. and Kyle ...! I was NOT impressed with his playcalling tonight. Nor against the Cardinals, for that matter. Aside from the first possession -- which was a great series until it ended in us not scoring a TD after moving into the red zone -- and the first possession of the second half, his playcalling tonight was awful! He had better step it up BIG TIME! And they absolutely can NOT run a 2:00 offense to save their lives! They blew it before the half, and they blew it in the last possession! They were taking :15-:25 seconds between each play! Absolutely ridiculous!

[WorshiptheMonk81]

i only saw the play once but it looked like coverage by dhall was poor. that play was awful

[HogNose]

By that point in the game, there is nothing to be done about all that. We, in spite of all that, were in position to win and that call gave Dallas their only chance to convert. You think if we go prevent, they convert a play of over 21 yards?
Yeah but all of this wouldn't have mattered if we had scored TD's to begin with! It's about scoring more pts than your opponent. The poor red zone offense got us to this point in the game.

[shakinaiken]

Blitzing was the right move, showing all-out blitz was the right move, but actually all-out blitzing was ill-advised. That said, it wasn't the worst call imaginable and you have to put a fair amount of blame on the players for what amounted to a really weak pass rush and a receiver who could have been better defended.

i tend to agree... the completion was pretty umm lucky, i mean thats the nature of the game... but people forget this blitz resulted in an int earlier. romo throws the ball up, a wobbly throw as well, but bryant makes a play...

[BuddyLeeGhostHunter]

. You think if we go prevent, they convert a play of over 21 yards?

In watching the Redskins all these years, yes, yes they do.:ols:

[TaylorPickSix]

It was a bad call, yes, but you shouldn't lose games in the NFL to only ******* FGs. Blame our offense for pooping all over their own feet.

[sportjunkie07]

i did not like the call at the time. obviously its going to be a deep throw and you leave the receivers one on one with zero safety help? seemed like a bad call to me at the time.

[Sticksboi05]

Yeah but all of this wouldn't have mattered if we had scored TD's to begin with! It's about scoring more pts than your opponent. The poor red zone offense got us to this point in the game.

I know, but we were in position to walk out with a win and the last "step" was an easy stop on 3rd and 21. Foolish, foolish, foolish. The plays late in the game carry more weight because you have less time to make up for them. Kyle's playcalling was a joke indeed, especially near the end zone, but in spite of it, we had the win ready and hand-wrapped. Then the clown call comes.

[HailfrmDEN]

The offensive play calling was bad all game. Its tuff to lose this one. First game ive seen in dallas

[SAli457180]

At that moment, any other defensive call would have benefited the Skins better. Romo had seen that all night long and called the perfect play against it.

[shakinaiken]

well just to say it now, Haslett called a very good game...obviously this specific play will be isolated and called out. such is life, but i dont really fault Haslett overall here.

[War Paint]

I had a gut feeling that was going to be converted. Told my dad right before the play NOT to rush everyone! send some back in coverage. Damnit.

Me too. I knew that was going to happen. The vibe I was getting before that play was just like the typical Redskins/Cowboys against all odds plays, like Testaverde throwing that bomb to win a game we thought we had, or Brunell converting those 4th and longs for those Santana TD bombs. I just knew we weren't going to hang on a one point lead and having 3rd and 21 was just too good to be true.

[akorn22]

It was like something i'd call in a game of madden. and i suck at madden

[Area51]

Doesnt make any sense at all. Even I, as an avid professional Madden player would never do that. The only time you send that many is when its a run or 3rd and short. Very bad play call, very very bad, i dont blame Deangelo for that. It was all Jim Haslett. Why would you do that?

lol @ professional madden player. Needed that laugh.

He should’ve kept Atogwe back playing center field. It was just last week that Fitzgerald smoked Hall on single coverage in the 4th quarter. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, **** me.

[HogNose]

I know, but we were in position to walk out with a win and the last "step" was an easy stop on 3rd and 21. Foolish, foolish, foolish. The plays late in the game carry more weight because you have less time to make up for them. Kyle's playcalling was a joke indeed, especially near the end zone, but in spite of it, we had the win ready and hand-wrapped. Then the clown call comes.

Yeah I know....it just pisses me off that this game went the way it did. Arghhh.. Anyway I'm crashing, I'm too pissed. We'll get them next time.

[JoeJGibbs]

That wasn't D Hall's fault. An all out blitz like that is designed to force the QB to get rid of the ball almost immediately. Just like the play before it when Romo had to chuck it on a slant. For some reason sometimes when the skins blitz they all run into each other like morons. There should be a free rusher and there wasn't one.

Dallas did a good job sliding protection, while Romo bought some time with his feet. That play took way too long. You can't ask a CB to cover a WR by himself in an entire field for an extended amount of time.... the facemask...now for that he's a jack@SS! lol

[skins4eva]

Come on, Kyle Shanahan's playcalling is just as much to blame in my opinion, if not more so. For the most part, the defense was stellar. They kept us in the game.

We have a winner. Putting this lose on the defense is ridiculous. Kyle S. and his god-awful playcalling lost us this game. It was a truly inept display. He's got to go...oh wait--he's the coach's son. What a f-ing joke.

[A Skinhead in Saints Land]

I actually thought the 4th quarter was horribly coached on both sides of the ball. We ran the ball beautifully on the Hightower touchdown drive. Why throw it three straight times on the next possession. The 3-21 all out blitz was just ****ing stupid. How in the hell does that play even cross your mind in that situation?

[Sticksboi05]

We have a winner. Putting this lose on the defense is ridiculous. Kyle S. and his god-awful playcalling lost us this game. It was a truly inept display. He's got to go...oh wait--he's the coach's son. What a f-ing joke.

We aren't blaming the defense. Why do you keep saying that? We are saying Haslett made a terrible, foolish, horrendous decision. The defense was fantastic all night. He put them in a vulnerable situation for no reason.

[delmarvan]

Wow no one is blaming the terrible red zone offense that resulted in FG's??? :wtf: It backfired but if we stop them its done. ZERO TD's. Anyway blame little Shanny and his play calling.

No , that doesnt matter, the cowboys didnt get anything going either, haslett messed up on a critical time.

[theivorhick]

There weren't very many big plays tonight, but every time there was one, it was Hall getting beat. While dude has gotten a lot better with his tackling skills, it doesn't make up for him constantly getting beat for big gains...

[Phat Hog]

I fee like, plain and simple, we need to get TDs in the red zone and not FGs.

[Frostx08]

You have to break at some point. The fact of the matter is the defense held ALL game. We got beat by field goals people.....FIELD GOALS!!! Had the offense done something this wouldn't be a conversation

[Prototype]

Bad play call, bad execution, bad coverage by hall. All three of those factored in that first down.

[SkinFaninOKC]

Not scoring a TD after the fumble recovery and the botched FG were the difference, not the3rd down conversion. I think I just heard Colin Cowherd and Skip Bayless climax.

:jerk::finger:

[TD Riggo]

The poor red zone offense got us to this point in the game.

^THIS!

As ****ty as the Girls played tonight, we found ourselves only one point ahead of a team that never got into the end zone! You aren't going to win games 85% of the time when you're playing like that!

[Brandon Lloyd Christmas]

um, the offense scored 16 points, couldnt capitalize in the red zone, missed a field goal, and looked like **** most of the night.

one play on defense might have been the back breaker, but the offense is why we lost, not one bad defensive play.

[skins4eva]

We aren't blaming the defense. Why do you keep saying that? We are saying Haslett made a terrible, foolish, horrendous decision. The defense was fantastic all night. He put them in a vulnerable situation for no reason.

Fine--he had one bad call. Kyle had bad call after bad call all game. Why are you blaming Haslett for one decision when it was Kyle's crappy playcalling that made this game even remotely close to begin with???

[WSHRedskins3ATLBraves3]

Not a good call, but it's very easy to second guess.

The offense should have put up more points, and they definitely should have scored on the last drive as well.

We will continue to grow throughout the season and add more talent in the offseason.

This is a process.

[zyvo23]

The game unraveled about mid-way through the 4th quarter after the penalty on the Moss catch they were at the Dallas 43. They ran right for 1 yard, took a sack (which should've been a fumble) and then threw the ball again. Dallas was coming hard on both plays and a screen would've served them well. Instead, deep drops with either all or nothing.

I think you can send 7 and leave a safety back to at help. It's not like you have to either blitz everyone or play prevent...There are other options.

[skins4eva]

um, the offense scored 16 points, couldnt capitalize in the red zone, missed a field goal, and looked like **** most of the night.

one play on defense might have been the back breaker, but the offense is why we lost, not one bad defensive play.

Exactly. The defense more than held up their end of the bargain. The offensive--the QB, the playcalling and Kyle Shanahan lost us this game.

[abdcskins]

Gotta send some LBs back in coverage...don't send the house there. I was thinking that before the snap and whaddya know.

[sfcphilip]

The Refs??? You mean the same refs that called Alan Ball for hitting a defenseless receiver? Or maybe the same refs that were looking the other way when Williams tackled Demarcus Ware? Or maybe when the same refs decided that the hit on Robinson by Landry was not hitting a defensekess receiver? Or maybe the ticky tac holding call against Bennet?

[PleaseGoForTheWin]

It was a poor call, but Dallas was likely in 2 down territory anyway. So, they may have ended up with a 4th and 10 or so if they had played a prevent D. I guess that's better than a conversion, but hell, at least Has attacked and tried to win the game. It's easy to second guess now, but the whole night we played conservatively and paid for it. We let this one get away.

[Sticksboi05]

Fine--he had one bad call. Kyle had bad call after bad call all game. Why are you blaming Haslett for one decision when it was Kyle's crappy playcalling that made this game even remotely close to begin with???

Because at that point in the game, we cannot change Kyle's certianly terrible playcalling. And regardless, we had the win almost wrapped up. Because we were 2 minuted away from victory regardless of earlier screwups that we couldn't change, and he completely whiffed on a moronic call. A game is never solely on one person but he cost us a chance to ice it.

[U C S D SkinsFan]

Bad call Haslett...very bad game for Kyle

We let a crippled qb and a bunch of inept WRs running around like chickens with their heads cut off beat us. This one stings.

[shakinaiken]

um, the offense scored 16 points, couldnt capitalize in the red zone, missed a field goal, and looked like **** most of the night.

one play on defense might have been the back breaker, but the offense is why we lost, not one bad defensive play.

but the question is, do you fault the play call by haslett, or just chalk it up to a great play but dez

[1972FAN]

The team is 2-1 and might use this loss to bounce back.

Exactly, the season is still young, there is no way in hell anybody thought we would go undefeated this year. If it makes you happy, the reality is Dallas could be 2-3 by week 6, why? because they will lose to Detroit next week, than they have a bye and than go to New England = another lost.

[pimpumd]

um, the offense scored 16 points, couldnt capitalize in the red zone, missed a field goal, and looked like **** most of the night.

one play on defense might have been the back breaker, but the offense is why we lost, not one bad defensive play.

Truth. The defense is not blame.

[Da_Truth]

If we stop them on that all out blitz, then its a great play. Romo just made a great play point blank. If you want to blame anybody you can blame the offense. Defense held them to nothing but fgs.

[SAli457180]

Exactly. The defense more than held up their end of the bargain. The offensive--the QB, the playcalling and Kyle Shanahan lost us this game.

At around the 4 minutes or so I thought that the offense could salt this game away, but K. Shanahan did not choose to go that way. It was stupid for them not milk the clock. However, when there's one defining play in the game that's not made, it's going to magnified and scrutinized heavily.

[Drockvb]

I agree it's the biggest play of the game, but how many times did the offense fail to deliver? Seems like the Skins had chance after chance and could not get the job done.

[bigdoublebass]

It was working, I dont fault haslett.

[TD Riggo]

Me too. I knew that was going to happen. The vibe I was getting before that play was just like the typical Redskins/Cowboys against all odds plays, like Testaverde throwing that bomb to win a game we thought we had, or Brunell converting those 4th and longs for those Santana TD bombs. I just knew we weren't going to hang on a one point lead and having 3rd and 21 was just too good to be true.


+1

I had just told my wife that "all my life, for the past 40 years, I have seen the ****ing Crackgirls convert these 3rd-and-99 against us too many times! It's just the way it is. And if they hadn't, the refs would usually throw a bull**** flag and give them a first down anyway. It's just the way it is against Mexico's Team, and it's the way it will always be!

[1972FAN]

I agree it's the biggest play of the game, but how many times did the offense fail to deliver? Seems like the Skins had chance after chance and could not get the job done.

Yes agreed, It's still a work in progress and thats the only reason I'm not exploding with anger. We are still a year or 2 at the most out from being a really good team. So that keeps me in check. I predicted we be 8-8 maybe 9-7 and thats what we look like right now. A good team would of capitalized on those mistakes our team still makes, but were still better than last year.

[shakinaiken]

yep felt familiar, offense had oppotunites to put game away,didnt... and... this result

[Brandon Lloyd Christmas]

but the question is, do you fault the play call by haslett, or just chalk it up to a great play but dez

good play IMO, i like the pressure, itd worked all night, hall just got torched by a good receiver and romo made a good throw.

again, if we dont miss that field goal, nobody cares about this play. our offense is why we lost.

[-mando-]

At around the 4 minutes or so I thought that the offense could salt this game away, but K. Shanahan didn't want to that way. It was stupid for them not milk the clock. However, when there's one defining play in the game that's not made, it's going to magnified and scrutinized heavily.

Completely agree. You have the lead and time on your side and yet completely forget about the run. Even a couple of screens on that drive and you pick up a couple of first downs and time runs out.

[jivelikenice]

This was just poor execution all around but this play was terrible. Once you get them in 3rd & 21, you could still blitz but just dial it back a little. They had no receivers capable of gaining 21 unless we opened up the chance for a big play to them....

[GreenRiggins]

We must remember that D. Bryant wasn't healthy and D.Hall was keeping him in check all night by himself...Hate to say it but romo made the throw.

[poopoobigelow]

why does there need to be "blame" here?... i'm sure most of even the most-optimistic skins fans had this as a loss before the season began... we showed that we can play with anybody in the league in their house...

what i liked about the third down blitz? we tried to win the game, not tried to NOT lose the game, which has been our trademark for many, many years...

in years past, our second to last drive would have been two one-yard runs and a check down for 3 yards and we punt the ball and give them tremendous field position... instead, kyle went for the win and came out firing and we moved the ball by throwing it...

in years past, we play prevent on the last drive and romo picks us apart and they move down the field for the winning score anyway... this time, we saw a chance and tried to make a play to win...

hindsight is 20/20 here... if kyle had three runs and out we would be blaming him for conservative play calling... if, on that 3 and 21, we rushed 3 and dropped everyone else, and romo had 15 seconds to scramble around and convert the first-down, we would be blaming haslett for not bringing pressure and acting chicken...

i, myself, like the new us of trying to make plays to win the game... didn't work out this time, but it will more times than not in the future... sure, it sucks to lose to the scum, but i think we grew a lot in this game tonight...

[Voice_of_Reason]

I'm not sure that I agree that it was that bad a call. Week OL, bad receivers, the idea is to get the QB to get rid of the ball quickly and then make a sure tackle.

Romo made that play be sneaking out the back side and buying enough time. THAT shouldn't happen against an all out blitz.

This is not the reason we lost the game. The reason that we lost the game is because the 'Skins have yet to figure out how to score TDs when they are presented with the opportunity to do so.

[shakinaiken]

good play IMO, i like the pressure, itd worked all night, hall just got torched by a good receiver and romo made a good throw.

again, if we dont miss that field goal, nobody cares about this play. our offense is why we lost.


yep, i agree... romo on his heels, throws a prayer, and bryant happens to make a play.. sometimes, nothing you can do. But i feel that we're in the minority that believes haslett actually made a decent playcall

[GreenRiggins]

+1

I had just told my wife that "all my life, for the past 40 years, I have seen the ****ing Crackgirls convert these 3rd-and-99 against us too many times! It's just the way it is. And if they hadn't, the refs would usually throw a bull**** flag and give them a first down anyway. It's just the way it is against Mexico's Team, and it's the way it will always be!

Be real son...We had those refs in our back pocket for once tonight but our O let us down.

[Backpack3r]

yep, i agree... romo on his heels, throws a prayer, and bryant happens to make a play.. sometimes, nothing you can do. But i feel that we're in the minority that believes haslett actually made a decent playcall

It just doesnt make any sense why you would send the house, at least keep a few players back to help out on their oversized receivers.

[skinsforlife101]

It was a very bad call however, the game was lost in the first half after the Romo fumble we had three shots first and goal from inside the ten and was not able to make a touchdown. Couple that with the blocked field goal in the second quarter. The defense played well for about 95% of the game and I cannot fully blame the loss on them

[pimpumd]

I agree it's the biggest play of the game, but how many times did the offense fail to deliver? Seems like the Skins had chance after chance and could not get the job done.

This guy speaks the truth. The boys didn't get in the endzone, but somehow we're going to put this on Haslett? Please.

[Brandon Lloyd Christmas]

yep, i agree... romo on his heels, throws a prayer, and bryant happens to make a play.. sometimes, nothing you can do. But i feel that we're in the minority that believes haslett actually made a decent playcall

our defense held the cowboys without a touchdown all night in their home stadium, they made multiple great plays, we dropped at least 1 pick, and haslett knew when to dial up the pressure.

this game was not on defense whatsoever, it was about 90% on the offense.

[rdskn4eva]

Im not blaming a defense that gave up 6 field goals and no TD. Im blaming an offense that can score in the RZ. This is getting old.

[Warhead36]

The D was great but there is absolutely NO REASON to call an all out blitz in that situation. It's 3rd and 21 and you have them pinned deep in their territory. Give up something soft underneath, let some clock run, and get the ball back for your offense. Worst case, they go 3 and out and you have to stop them again on a short field with less time. Best case, the offense gets a first down and ices the game. It's not like they were in FG range and we had to knock them out or needed a takeaway or something. Just a bad bad call. Poor situational awareness by our Defensive Coordinator.

[pimpumd]

our defense held the cowboys without a touchdown all night in their home stadium, they made multiple great plays, we dropped at least 1 pick, and haslett knew when to dial up the pressure.

this game was not on defense whatsoever, it was about 90% on the offense.

You are 100% correct. People seem to want to blame the defense for some reason. The defense did great. The offense let us down.

[Prototype]

Honestly, it would have been a lot safer to play man coverage with 2 safeties over the top, and only rush 4. Force the underneath, force the punt. Atrocious coverage by Dhall though.

[Ruff Stuff]

our defense held the cowboys without a touchdown all night in their home stadium, they made multiple great plays, we dropped at least 1 pick, and haslett knew when to dial up the pressure.

this game was not on defense whatsoever, it was about 90% on the offense.

thank god somebody gets it

[HailGreen28]

Refs? What calls did you disagree with?closeups during the game of tackles arms wrapped around our guys, and no call. Blatant offsides ignored. yes ware got a good jump on at least one play, and the pukes should have gotten called on others. snowjob tonight.

And the most obvious non-grounding call I can recall in the NFL. wide pan, nobody let alone a puke WR anywhere in the vicinity. Felt the refs were tanking the game for the pukes from that point on.

[terpfan]

I'm not blaming the defense. I'm not even saying Haslett called a bad game overall. But that one playcall was ATROCIOUS and cost us the game. Period.

[pimpumd]

thank god somebody gets it

Hey, watch it. I said the same thing and was accused being an idiot. You're correct though. This loss is on the offense.

[Luvskins59]

I put this loss soley on the offense. They need to score TD's. I am not impressed with Grossman at all.

[pimpumd]

I put this loss soley on the offense. They need to score TD's. I am not impressed with Grossman at all.

Smart poster here. Watch out though...DHall haters will be out to get you.

[Luvskins59]

I'm not blaming the defense. I'm not even saying Haslett called a bad game overall. But that one playcall was ATROCIOUS and cost us the game. Period.

I never believe one play costs a whole game. The Redskin's offense cost us the game by being ineffective and not scoring TD's. I was hoping they would come back in the second half with some adjustments, but it was the same old same old.

[Painkiller]

if it pans out and they swarm Romo like a pack of wild dogs...than it's a brilliant play. As it is, it didn't work out.

Too many field goals, and not capitalizing on the Cowboys mistakes are why they lost the game.

Edit: and to be blunt, I think Kyle's play calling was just not good tonight. We did not seem to game plan for the Cowboys weaknesses in the secondary, and they strayed to far from the run game.

[Luvskins59]

Smart poster here. Watch out though...DHall haters will be out to get you.'

Well, I guess they can hate me. It was an unfortunate call and play, but it's not like DHall was the only player who didn't execute the game plan tonight. If the offense would have done their job and scored TD's instead of FG's, that final play would have been moot. It was a team loss, but I blame the offense most of all. They just did not do a good job and it's a shame because the Cowboys looked very out of sync and ripe for a beat down.

[worldpost]

Forgetting what worked the last two weeks, doomed the offense to yet another under 20 point performance that you need on the road to win. Bubble screens and the lack of a seam buster like Fred Davis was critical to this loss. Also what happened to Hightower? Does his tank only allow for the first half ?

[JoeJGibbs]

Blitzing was the right move, showing all-out blitz was the right move, but actually all-out blitzing was ill-advised. That said, it wasn't the worst call imaginable and you have to put a fair amount of blame on the players for what amounted to a really weak pass rush and a receiver who could have been better defended.

THIS! I said the same thing. For a blitz that bright that many people it really didn't seem to get there.
Bryant had time to run his route and then freelance as the play broke down. You can't ask a CB to guard a WR with an entire field to work with for extended amounts of time.

I give credit to the Dallas O line which i believe slide protection right as Romo bought some time by scrambling to his right. I still can't figure out how that many people don't blow up the play immediately as opposed to what happened.

[mcarey032]

Any time you hold a team to under 20, on the road and only FGs, yeah the defense did it's job. Where was the Redskins offense?

[pimpumd]

'

Well, I guess they can hate me. It was an unfortunate call and play, but it's not like DHall was the only player who didn't execute the game plan tonight. If the offense would have done their job and scored TD's instead of FG's, that final play would have been moot. It was a team loss, but I blame the offense most of all. They just did not do a good job and it's a shame because the Cowboys looked very out of sync and ripe for a beat down.

I agree with you 100%. I stuck up for for DHall and was told I "don't act my age," etc. It was a team loss. However, the funboys didn't get in the endzone. Putting the blame on a defensive player (or the defensive unit in whole) is lame.

[Enter Apotheosis]

I give credit to the Dallas O line which i believe slide protection right as Romo bought some time by scrambling to his right. I still can't figure out how that many people don't blow up the play immediately as opposed to what happened.

We had pitiful push up the middle on passing downs all night long and were still vulnerable to the draw. Carriker and Bowen made some nice plays but the defensive line as a unit just didn't have the kind of impact they should have against the Cowboys' mess of an interior OL.

[mmzznnxx]

Forgetting what worked the last two weeks, doomed the offense to yet another under 20 point performance that you need on the road to win. Bubble screens and the lack of a seam buster like Fred Davis was critical to this loss. Also what happened to Hightower? Does his tank only allow for the first half ?

I don't know about that, Hightower looked good on a couple receptions and when in blocking. I do know that after getting some good runs and getting into the endzone, we immediately abandoned the run almost completely. I'm not sure why, and it's my biggest gripe with the game tonight.

[pimpumd]

We had pitiful push up the middle on passing downs all night long and were still vulnerable to the draw. Carriker and Bowen made some nice plays but the defensive line as a unit just didn't have the kind of impact they should have against the Cowboys' mess of an interior OL.

Yet, no touchdowns by the boys. I would of liked a little more pressure as well but the defense wasn't the problem.

[-mando-]

Smart poster here. Watch out though...DHall haters will be out to get you.

haha, D Hall deserves the hate. Through the first 3 games he has easily been the worst guy out there on defense.Say what you want about Doughty in the first game. Doughty is our 3rd safety, while D Hall is supposed to be a #1 corner but is playing nothing like it.

[Enter Apotheosis]

Yet, no touchdowns by the boys. I would of liked a little more pressure as well but the defense wasn't the problem.

There's no question that the offense should have won this game for us or, at the very least, could have taken steps not to lose it. 6 scoring drives is nothing to be proud of, though, especially with the Cowboys in such a visible and astonishing state of disarray. Our defense certainly does deserve some criticism.

[pimpumd]

haha, D Hall deserves the hate. Through the first 3 games he has easily been the worst guy out there on defense.Say what you want about Doughty in the first game. Doughty is our 3rd safety, while D Hall is supposed to be a #1 corner but is playing nothing like it.

haha. The boys didn't get in the endzone. If our offense was decent there'd be ZERO talk about the defense. The fact that people have to blame the defense, or DHall, after this loss speaks volumes about the offense.

[-mando-]

haha. The boys didn't get in the endzone. If our offense was decent there'd be ZERO talk about the defense. The fact that people have to blame the defense, or DHall, after this loss speaks volumes about the offense.

I'm talking about general hate for D Hall, I agree that the defense played great and has played great all season. The offense was clearly the let down tonight, but D Hall is overrated and the apologists need to realize that.

[pimpumd]

There's no question that the offense should have won this game for us or, at the very least, could have taken steps not to lose it. 6 scoring drives is nothing to be proud of, though, especially with the Cowboys in such a visible and astonishing state of disarray. Our defense certainly does deserve some criticism.

You're right. I just think keeping them out the endzone speaks volumes. The thing about the 6 scoring drives is we had another field goal blocked, again. I think the defense played well enough to win.

[Rocky52Mc]

That was 4 down territory for them anyways, I can't blame Haslett for going all in on 3rd down.

[pimpumd]

I'm talking about general hate for D Hall, I agree that the defense played great and has played great all season. The offense was clearly the let down tonight, but D Hall is overrated and the apologists need to realize that.

That may be the case. I'm not a DHall apologist whatsoever. I just have a hard time blaming him for the loss tonight. We have a serious redzone problem.

[TD Riggo]

Be real son...We had those refs in our back pocket for once tonight but our O let us down.


I wouldn't say "we had those refs in our back pocket," but I agree that TONIGHT they were pretty fair. They got the fumble call right. But they also missed a TON of offsides against the Girls D.

I DO agree that the offense needs to get their asses in gear, or this team WILL be a 6-10 team!

[HailfrmDEN]

Didnt the facemask call come on that one. The ref gave them fifteen. Without a full grab it should have been five.

[-mando-]

Didnt the facemask call come on that one. The ref gave them fifteen. Without a full grab it should have been five.

There is no more 5 yard facemasks, they are all 15

[C26 Run]

Stupid play call by Haslett, very freaking stupid play.

:helmet:

this play will always live in infamy. I have no problem with Halls' rant (even though the timing was wrong). Haslett called a terrible game and that call magnified it. An all out blitz on a 3rd and 21, with no backside help for the receivers was very stupid and it contributed to our huge loss. Our blitz schemes are starting to get easier to detect coming. Another awful call by Haslett was having London blitz running right by Felix, who then caught the ball for a big gain. I like the aggressive calls but Haslett has become predictable.

:helmet:

[JoeJGibbs]

As a group, the defense was great. But there were some individual WTF moments. And where was Barry Coffield? lol

The offense was baaaaaaaad. Hate to say it but I'm not sure what they are doing with Cooley. It was almost as if Kyle had too much at his disposal this game.

[HLF]

They didnt play the kill blitz like its supposed to be ran, he wouldve never had time to throw the deep ball If everybody kept pursuing him. D Hall didnt play the man coverage like he's supposed to smh. Play of the game but totally not Haslett's fault. Good call just bad execution.

[HAILSKINSNYC]

it was definitely haslett's fault on that play and not D-Hall.....that call reminded me of the Texans game last year when we were in complete control and haslett dialed up an all out blitz on 3rd and 15..screen pass to arian foster...the rest is history.

[amm0409]

Play of the game was Rocca messing up the snap in my mind

[HLF]

it was definitely haslett's fault on that play and not D-Hall.....that call reminded me of the Texans game last year when we were in complete control and haslett dialed up an all out blitz on 3rd and 15..screen pass to arian foster...the rest is history.

Dude, the play had been working all game and wouldve worked again if Kerrigan had not backed out on the blitz and D Hall was playing the lock corner he's supposed to be

[HAILSKINSNYC]

Dude, the play had been working all game and wouldve worked again if Kerrigan had not backed out on the blitz and D Hall was playing the lock corner he's supposed to be

the risk is not worth it at that stage....the cowboys had a bunch of receivers who had no clue out there...they have one phyiscal freak and we let him beat us.

[FrFan]

Hall rips ref, coaches after Redskins loss (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/15646303/hall-rips-ref-coaches-after-skins-loss)
Even though I think he is right about the eight men formation, he better look at himself too, and learn how to cover the receivers when a QB is throwing deep.

[wilco_holland]

The worst thing is that he did it like three times in a row and durning does plays Romo showed the abilitie to escape it and make the throw. If we just play solid coverage with two middel to deep safety´s then it´s pretty hard to get the ball 21 yards down the field.

....but Romo and Dez are playmakers, great play by them.


Dude, the play had been working all game and wouldve worked again if Kerrigan had not backed out on the blitz and D Hall was playing the lock corner he's supposed to be

Since when became Hall a lock down corner? Think that he is more a playmaking corner, not lockdown.

Josh Wilson showed some good stuff by the way...like the way he used his hands (against pretty bad WR's).

"I told the ref after that call, that might have been his worst call of the game," Hall said during an expletive-filled rant. "He's going to get demerit points for that call. Because that wasn't no facemask."

I'm Dutch but that wasN'T NO facemask...wtf? so there was a facemask? Dubbel denial?

[s0crates]

I like the call, just not the execution.

The blitz was working, and it was a four down situation for the Cowboys.

Romo and Bryant made a play, the front seven and D Hall did not.

---------- Post added September-27th-2011 at 04:05 AM ----------


"I told the ref after that call, that might have been his worst call of the game," Hall said during an expletive-filled rant. "He's going to get demerit points for that call. Because that wasn't no facemask."
I do not think Hall's rant is helping anybody, but he is right about that call. Between that and the phantom holding call on an earlier drive (one that I have yet to see a video of), I am a bit mad at the zebras myself.

[DieselPwr44]

D Hall should be the next distraction(ala Haynesworth and McNabb) to go. Keep cleaning Shanny.

[JdoubleU]

North Texas needs 21 yards to get a first down, they have no Miles Austin & a hobbled Dez Bryant. Romo physically could not throw deep, so hell yeah, that was a dumb call; but each unit did enough to lose that game.

[Chachie]

Hall rips ref, coaches after Redskins loss (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/15646303/hall-rips-ref-coaches-after-skins-loss)
Even though I think he is right about the eight men formation, he better look at himself too, and learn how to cover the receivers when a QB is throwing deep.




It was a bad facemask call. 5 yards at most. However, Dez Bryant beat DHall like a dusty rug all night. He's just way too big for DeAngelo. Bad matchup.

[skins island connection]

The old saying of " going to the well too often" comes to mind. The play before Dez converts the 3rd and a mile was a blitz and the receiver ran the wrong route; Haslett called another blitz, and well, we all saw what happened.
I'M 50/50 on the performance overall, I thought they played a super game for 3-3/4 qtrs, then the 3-0 bug jumped up and bit them in the butt. We can praise the same people we are blaming, it all boils down to execution...

[monkeezgob]

Considering the state of the game, it was a very, very risky almost stupid, call. Not one I would have made. You just can't give them an opportunity to convert like that on 3rd and 21. This is professional football, it just shouldn't be happening.

As soon as Romo evaded the rush you could just see what was going to happen. Haslett needs to play call smarter than that.

Mind you, i didn't think the offensive play calling in second half after our TD was much better. We seemed to forget we had a running game.

[KDawg]

I don't understand why we brought that many guys that many times in the first place.

Our defense (players, coaches other than one) for the most part is nice. There's one glaring problem, though.

[MartinC]

Its a bad call with our without hindsight. As we were lining up I was shouting at the TV "don't bltiz" - I would not have gone pure prevent but it was crying out for a cover 3 look which we have played a lot in the past anyway. I just don't think we felt their receivers could beat our corners.

[Gurgeh]

I didn't like the call given the game situation. Aggression needs to be tempered with wisdom and it wasn't a wise choice; Dallas were already in a hole, there was no need to dig it any deeper at that point in the game. What I expect is for Haslett to learn from this mistake instead of repeating it, and if he doesn't learn from it maybe Shanny should have a quiet word in his ear about it.

[redskinsforlife]

He has a history of boneheaded calls. Did he get possessed by Gregg Williams? It was a fire-able call IMO, no justification.

[jtpop]

I don't blame the D I blame the call that was made on 3rd and 21. They throw an incompletion great or if you give them something underneath and they get 10 or 12 yards make them go for on 4th and then blitz him if you want. There is a lot more pressure on 4th down than 3rd down. Two blitzes in a row kind of predictable when QB knows it is coming he knows he has to buy some time. That was what Homo did and that was what beat us.

[VaSkinsNut]

A deep safety would have been smart there but I wasn't against the call.

[stevej3658]

I said it before as long as Haslett is run'in that defense we can not and will not be playoff contenders - he should been gone last season

[Brotherz]

the most obvious sign that we are still the same ol' redskins is that everyone watching that game knew they were converting 3rd and 21. Everyone.

If you were sitting there thinking to yourself "3rd and 21" man these are like impossible to convert int he NFL", then you were sipping the kool aide too much.

You can blame haslett til your blue in the face but you could have rushed two and the skins would have let them convert that play. They are the same team. Until they can stop a team on a 3rd and 21 when it is likely the ball game, they are the same team we have seen for two decades.

P.S. If you are like me, and actually saw 3rd and 21 and said "oh crap, watch witten or bryant go for a score here" then you are also saying, like me saying "Watch, we choke in St. Louis".

We haven't learned to be winners yet. I stress yet. They are a better, more talented, fast team. Unfortunately guys like Kerrigan got their first lesson in how to be a real redskin tonight. Botch opportunitiy after opportunity to seize a HUGE game. Go dance on the star and run your mouth all week and let the center make 5 missed snaps to the opposing QB with broken ribs and not recover one of them (and even let him complete a ridiculous pass on one). Botch an easy field goal. Drop interceptions. Get away from the run. Hold the ball too long, stare down middle linebackers just begging to intercept you, and fumble twice instead of throwing the ball out of bounds smartly. Talk crap and then choke. That's what they learned again. This is a classic choke job. 3rd and 21 was just a perfect example of it. But the whole game was just a huge opportunity to turn the corner on the rebuild. And when the skins are about to gain their respect, about to become relevant, they start chirping like they already are relevant and then demonstrate why we aren't.

Today, we are not even the Washington Redskins, we are "Romo's opponent" because we didn't take advantage of this huge opportunity to go 3-0, to beat an injured and oft confused WR corps, to hit an injured QB who was obviously hurt, to pick up one of 6 loose balls from bad snaps and strips, to punch it in on 1st and goal after a huge recovery in their end, etc etc. Missed opportunities. How long have we been hearing that. Its the same thing. They are the same thing they have been for the last 20 years.

[celticsalmon]

Fantasy football and Madden have reduced the game of football to ONE play and created a world of virtual experts.

[Warpath11]

I liked the blitz call on 3rd and 21 (maybe not sending 8) but in general I agree with the scheme/principle of the play. If the pressure gets there Romo has to get rid of the ball quickly thus there is not way he can throw for 21 yards (or more). The execution by the offense in the blitz pick up was much better than anyone thought it would be so kudos to Dallas for making the play. Personally, I would have sent 6 at him but I don't fault Haslett too much for the idea of the play. Gergg Williams goes for a big blitz on almost any 3rd and long situation moreofthen than not you win by holding the offense to a modest gain due to the quick throw by the QB.

[KDawg]

Fantasy football and Madden have reduced the game of football to ONE play and created a world of virtual experts.

Some of us have experience with the real life game and didn't like the call, either. What's your next excuse?

[Park City Skins]

Had no problem with the call. If memory serves,(which is tricky when it comes to the "day after"),it wasn't the first time he called that in the game and the play had worked before. If anything,he dialed up several similar blitzes during the game that worked. This one should have. DHall lost track of Bryant for a split second and that's all it takes sometimes.

[Shawn12]

You have to love the confidence Haslett has in our defense to call that play, but you have to wonder if his mind slipped from reality for a second. I've never considered D Hall capable of playing a physical one-on-one. He completely relies on help over the top so he can jump routes. Not blanket a guy and break up passes. Maybe he works fine against a less physical WR, but IMO there should have been a safety to help him. He's a chance taker. Not a shut down corner.

[KDawg]

Had no problem with the call. If memory serves,(which is tricky when it comes to the "day after"),it wasn't the first time he called that in the game and the play had worked before. If anything,he dialed up several similar blitzes during the game that worked. This one should have. DHall lost track of Bryant for a split second and that's all it takes sometimes.

Your memory is somewhat working correct. The play worked once before due to Josh Wilson making a heck of a play. Otherwise, the all out blitz didn't really do what it needed to do. We went to the well too many times and it was a terrible call in that situation. Putting three guys in coverage on 3rd and 21 is stupid.

[Major Harris]

i hated the call. reminded me of the texans game last year. screen to foster against an all out blitz on 3rd and long with us up 3 scores. 70 yards later and the comeback was in motion.

[tone_dubbz]

I don't know how I feel about the defensive play call by Haslett. I guess he was giving Hall too much credit, thinking he could cover Bryant 1on1. During any other situation, yeah sending the heat on 3rd and forever to end the drive sounds like good call. Hall just couldn't cover his end of the deal. Every time his man made a catch, he would just hug them to death. Then he'd get up after almost every play and starting yapping his mouth.

But as far as the play call, hey it was a gamble and we lost.

[AsburySkinsFan]

Bad call too aggressive, left the WR's open in the secondary and we got burned. All we needed to do was drop into a zone coverage and stop any pass over 10 yards, they probably would have went for it on 4th and long but still that beats getting gashed.

[MattFancy]

I didn't agree with the call, but if we send the house, someone has to get to Romo. I don't fault the defense at all for this game. When you hold your opponent out of the endzone, you should win. The offense cannot continue to struggle in the red zone.

[gaskinsfan]

All out blitz probably too aggressive at that point, Landry gets tied up with a LB, so it took way too long to get to Romo, he makes a nice play and we end up losing.

Just as many would complain if we rush 3, and they march down the field...

Skins are a good team, they let one get away.

[Brotherz]

I liked the blitz call on 3rd and 21 (maybe not sending 8) but in general I agree with the scheme/principle of the play. If the pressure gets there Romo has to get rid of the ball quickly thus there is not way he can throw for 21 yards (or more). The execution by the offense in the blitz pick up was much better than anyone thought it would be so kudos to Dallas for making the play. Personally, I would have sent 6 at him but I don't fault Haslett too much for the idea of the play. Gergg Williams goes for a big blitz on almost any 3rd and long situation moreofthen than not you win by holding the offense to a modest gain due to the quick throw by the QB.

I agree. I don't think the call was that bad either. Its 3rd and 21. You make him throw hot and then tackle a guy. Its not rocket science. As for giving credit to Dallas I find it disturbing that we are the team that allows every opponent to find the thing they couldn't do until they met us. What did they have like 4 35 + yard runs on us? Coming into the game they haven't popped one for 8 yards. They talked all week about hitting and pressuring romo. They failed. They hit grossman as predicted and we couldn't run it on them as predicted. Its so frustrating. We should have been hitting romo all damn game and if we couldn't because he was throwing short/fast routes, we should have been forcing them three and out and stopping the damn run. Overall the defense played pretty well but alot of that was just Dallas' ineptitude with not knowing the plays, the backup center snapping it wrong multiple times etc. But when crunch time came we could be counted on for allowing the huge crippling play against us and choking away our opportunity to respond. Which is exactly what we did.

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All out blitz probably too aggressive at that point, Landry gets tied up with a LB, so it took way too long to get to Romo, he makes a nice play and we end up losing.

Just as many would complain if we rush 3, and they march down the field...

Skins are a good team, they let one get away.

"skins are a good team"

Where are you getting this from and what are you basing it on? Is it because we "kept it close" with Dallas' backups?

[Sticksboi05]

Had no problem with the call. If memory serves,(which is tricky when it comes to the "day after"),it wasn't the first time he called that in the game and the play had worked before. If anything,he dialed up several similar blitzes during the game that worked. This one should have. DHall lost track of Bryant for a split second and that's all it takes sometimes.

You leave your defensive backs vulnerable. In context, the earlier calls were at points in the game where we had plenty of time to rectify the result. With 2 minutes to go and your opponent out of FG range, it is as dumb a call as there is pretty much. Haslett knows Hall had been abused by Dez 1-on-1 all night, so why put them 1 -on -1 in a situation like that? There is no justifiable reason for that call. Casserly rightfully called Haslett a clown.

---------- Post added September-27th-2011 at 08:46 AM ----------


They talked all week about hitting and pressuring romo. They failed. They hit grossman as predicted ...

---------- Post added September-27th-2011 at 08:43 AM ----------



"skins are a good team"

Where are you getting this from and what are you basing it on? Is it because we "kept it close" with Dallas' backups?

Romo certainly took several shots all game long.

[Park City Skins]

Your memory is somewhat working correct. The play worked once before due to Josh Wilson making a heck of a play. Otherwise, the all out blitz didn't really do what it needed to do. We went to the well too many times and it was a terrible call in that situation. Putting three guys in coverage on 3rd and 21 is stupid.

And that's what is expected on a play like that. Players making good plays. We've all watched enough football in our day to know that this isn't the first time a blitz like that has been called. Sometimes it works,(saw it in one game this past weekend),sometimes it doesn't, (last night). In this case,while the blitz didn't make contact with Romo,it did flush him to one side and regulated him with one option to throw to. DHall messed up on that play imo. Lost track of his guy. A guy who wasn't 100% as well. I'm not a fan of Haslett by any stretch,but this time I can see why he made the gamble.

[SWFLSkins]

Your memory is somewhat working correct. The play worked once before due to Josh Wilson making a heck of a play. Otherwise, the all out blitz didn't really do what it needed to do. We went to the well too many times and it was a terrible call in that situation. Putting three guys in coverage on 3rd and 21 is stupid.

I would have to agree here. If it hadn't been for Wilson and I think on another similar long third, Otogwe made a play as well. The game was pretty much on the line and instead of prevent, he could have simply rushed six and had five in coverage. No problem with showing it and then backing off. I do think though throwing the kitchen sink at that OL and it not working is not really Hasletts fault. The players should have got there immediately for the sack.

All in all though in this game Hall ran his mouth more than his legs.