I think Rex Grossman will start in Carolina...

[Robbynice]

...and while I don't feel good about it but I feel the coach can't yank him from the starting lineup because of one bad game. That will send the wrong message to the team. You have to atleast give him one half to see what he can do in Carolina and if he messes up you come in with Beck but they both have to prepare as if they are both starting this week. What say you guys?

[Brandon Lloyd Christmas]

it wasnt just one bad game. rex has been pretty poor since opening day. his QB rating hasnt been above an 80 in any game. hes thrown 9 picks in the last 4 games, and lost a fumble, thats 10 turnovers and 4 TDs in 4 games. completely terrible.

i think beck will get the shot this week.

[Gibbs Hog Heaven]

Good luck to him.

Stepping into an O that can't score for ****, against a Carolina team averaging 22 a game and who's put up 23 or more 3 times, with another of 21, on the road; is not a good starting position.

Hail.

*Edit* I'm that hung up on Beck today I misread your title.

No, BTW. I don't think Grossman will start.

[Sticksboi05]

it wasnt just one bad game. rex has been pretty poor since opening day. his QB rating hasnt been above an 80 in any game. hes thrown 9 picks in the last 4 games, and lost a fumble, thats 10 turnovers and 4 TDs in 4 games. completely terrible.

i think beck will get the shot this week.

Nine times?.......NINE times.

http://media.nj.com/mets/photo/ed-rooney-is-on-the-phone-e4f752cf468f15bb_large.jpg

[sportjunkie07]

...and while I don't feel good about it but I feel the coach can't yank him from the starting lineup because of one bad game. That will send the wrong message to the team. You have to atleast give him one half to see what he can do in Carolina and if he messes up you come in with Beck but they both have to prepare as if they are both starting this week. What say you guys?

rex has had rough outings for a few games.

i say Beck starts this week and our playbook becomes similar to the preseason. hopefully it works.

[GO HAMSKINS]

ONE BAD GAME WTF???????? I hope you know Mcnabb has had and 80 qb rating in everygame accept in the season opener and Mcnabb doesn't look so hot...so what does that say about REX...Funny though I bet you would say Mcnabb stinks smh

[Skinsinparadise]

...and while I don't feel good about it but I feel the coach can't yank him from the starting lineup because of one bad game. That will send the wrong message to the team. You have to atleast give him one half to see what he can do in Carolina and if he messes up you come in with Beck but they both have to prepare as if they are both starting this week. What say you guys?

He was almost as bad against the Rams who have one of the worst defenses in the league, bad against Dallas too.

[DCranon21]

:no:

He won't see the field in Charlotte this weekend. If he still is the starter by Wednesday, I'd be surprised.

[Boss_Hogg]

I think Rex will start too, just a funny feeling.

[HailB&G]

Nah, it'll be Beck. It should be a really easy call for Shanny. What exactly has Grossman done in the last few games to warrant not giving Beck a chance to see what he can do in a real start?

[Drew_Fl]

Nine times?.......NINE times.



lol well done

[Brandon Lloyd Christmas]

lol well done

agreed. its a shame he didnt throw 37 picks, cause we could have done a bunch of clerks 37!!!?!?! jokes. lol

[1972FAN]

Rex is not mobile and has been consistently making costly decisions. Out of the two marginal QB's we have I rather have the most mobile marginal QB in there making something happen, escaping the collasped pocket, running for a first down Things Grossman does not do. This is the edge we need because the offense as whole is not making it happen.

[jivelikenice]

Its not ONE bad game. He has played 3 consecutive poor games. The most we've scored offensively this season is 21 points! He has 11 turnovers in 5 games and 19 overall in his 8 starts. Thats AWFUL.

McNabb was benched for far less so there's no reason to continue down this path. The line is in trouble so why not give Beck a chance now considering he looked pretty good yesterday, offers more mobility, and can expand the playbook.

[GaryGreenMonk]

...and while I don't feel good about it but I feel the coach can't yank him from the starting lineup because of one bad game. That will send the wrong message to the team. You have to atleast give him one half to see what he can do in Carolina and if he messes up you come in with Beck but they both have to prepare as if they are both starting this week. What say you guys?

He's had nothing but bad games since game 1... and this particular game wasn't just a bad game.. it was a horrific game along the lines of what you would expect from a blind monkey throwing the ball.

[The Slamming Butcher]

If Shanahan wants to go with Beck, this is the perfect opportunity for him. Given the banged up O-line situation, he can further justify the switch given Beck's mobility.

[ouvan59]

...and while I don't feel good about it but I feel the coach can't yank him from the starting lineup because of one bad game. That will send the wrong message to the team. You have to atleast give him one half to see what he can do in Carolina and if he messes up you come in with Beck but they both have to prepare as if they are both starting this week. What say you guys?

Kurt Coleman endorses this statement

[DC9]

The players must HATE John Beck. They are all falling all over the place for Rex Grossman.

I think they all know that with Beck coming out, this means that the Redskins are going back to "rebuild" mode and some of the players may not be for that. I think a lot of them feel that they are better than this game (which I agree with).

But that locker room must HATE this dude.

[Brandon Lloyd Christmas]

Kurt Coleman endorses this statement

can we trade for him at the deadline? seemed like a good receiver yesterday

[kingdaddy]

I think Beck starts on Sunday and that Shanahan has already given Rex more time than he maybe should have already gotten. Let's not forget that Shanahan has liked Beck for a long time (traded for him and wanted to draft him) and probably knew the day was coming where he'd give him a shot to run the offense. He did the right thing by starting with Rex this season because Rex deserved it. However, Beck has more mobility, is probably going to be smarter with the ball and has more upside than Rex does.
I also think the Skins need to go out and get a 3rd string QB who is young and could be considered a possible option to start in the future. What's the harm in signing Graham Harrell off of the Packers practice squad and working him into our system? If not him, is there anyone else who may fit this bill. We need to keep pushing to see what options are out there besides Rex Grossman who will likely be gone after this year.
In Beck we trust........

[Chase M]

In Shanny we DON'T TRUST if Rex starts.

[Hooper]

If Grossman starts against Carolina... then Shanny must have been lying when he said he believed in Beck.

[LD0506]

So let's send this message to the team: "We are unconcerned how hard you work or how well you do, we will doom it to irrelevance by starting Wrecks"

Cool, that oughta fire 'em up :rolleyes:

[SlkyCaramel]

The players must HATE John Beck. They are all falling all over the place for Rex Grossman.

I think they all know that with Beck coming out, this means that the Redskins are going back to "rebuild" mode and some of the players may not be for that. I think a lot of them feel that they are better than this game (which I agree with).

But that locker room must HATE this dude.

Apparently Jammal Brown was endorsing Beck. Frankly, I don't care so much what the players think. I think they will all give 100% effort, but I think Rex has had enough time to prove himself (he had two weeks to prepare for this game) and it's time to give Beck a shot.

[jivelikenice]

The players must HATE John Beck. They are all falling all over the place for Rex Grossman.

I think they all know that with Beck coming out, this means that the Redskins are going back to "rebuild" mode and some of the players may not be for that. I think a lot of them feel that they are better than this game (which I agree with).

But that locker room must HATE this dude.

What have players in any locker room come out & push for a change? Moss was against benching Brunell when we went to Campbell. Players have to support the starter until the change is made.

I also don't see how Beck represents a rebuild. This is a 6-10 win team IMO. With Rex playing how he has been we're in the 6-7 win range. Even if Beck falls flat on his face, we'll still have a similar w/l record. If he plays reasonably well and protects the ball, we might be able to exceed that win total.

[Bigmuss1]

IMO, Beck should start this week given the shape our O-line is in. However, after reading all the player comments, I can see Shanny keeping Grossman in the starter role. Perhaps he would be on a short leash, and if he starts to throw the ball directly to the other team, he would insert Beck. Beck would play remainder of game and continue to start from there. Be prepared to see 8 on the field this weekend, I'm not happy about it but it's reality.

[ixcuincle]

Beck should start every game from here on out, this season. Period.

I've had enough of Rex.

[IONTOP]

agreed. Its a shame he didnt throw 37 picks, cause we could have done a bunch of clerks 37!!!?!?! Jokes. Lol

in a row?

[#98QBKiller]

it wasnt just one bad game. rex has been pretty poor since opening day. his QB rating hasnt been above an 80 in any game. hes thrown 9 picks in the last 4 games, and lost a fumble, thats 10 turnovers and 4 TDs in 4 games. completely terrible.

i think beck will get the shot this week.


Same here, I don't see how the coaches could justify keeping Grossman in.

[BleedBNG]

So let's send this message to the team: "We are unconcerned how hard you work or how well you do, we will doom it to irrelevance by starting Wrecks"

Cool, that oughta fire 'em up :rolleyes:

:ols: yeah, was the message yesterday "Sorry guys for sending in Beck... we thought we could just end it with 2 FG's" or "We're going to share timing routes with the WR's this week just in case Rex has a bad first half... and we'll try it again next week in case the same thing happens in the first half of the Bills game because you never know when Rex could have a good first half."

[War Paint]

The players must HATE John Beck. They are all falling all over the place for Rex Grossman.

I think they all know that with Beck coming out, this means that the Redskins are going back to "rebuild" mode and some of the players may not be for that. I think a lot of them feel that they are better than this game (which I agree with).

But that locker room must HATE this dude.


They hate Beck. Is that why many players went up to Beck and patted him on the back saying good job after our only TD?

[santanathegreat]

If I was a player, I'd hate Grossman. Aside from the fact that he stinks, he's tried to sideways throw his receivers under the bus. His sh1tty pass got Cooley hurt.

[War Paint]

Don't forget that players build friendships with each other. Moss and others probably like Rex as a person. I'm sure Rex is a real nice guy. Sometimes friendships might create a bias when it comes to professional decisions.

Also, I think players are always going to be reserved or somewhat critical of QB changes. I remember before Rivers took over Brees as the starter, LT and Gates seemed a bit critical because they were supporters of Brees and had the attitude that Rivers needs to prove himself before they buy into it. They didn't use those exact words but they put out that vibe. NFL Network played that clip to Rivers and Rivers said something like "I understand them completely and it's up to myself to step in a show I can get it done."

[Houston2Taylor2Landry]

I think they go with Grossman also. But I'm gonna be honest....I really do think that Beck can give this team a shot of adrenaline. I'm excited to see how Beck does if he starts.

[MonkFan8]

Unfortunately I think you're correct.

[SlkyCaramel]

Here's the Moss interview:
http://www.redskins.com/media-gallery/videos/#?id=e0a6eafe-453c-416f-940e-d07bae110e97

[Saqs]

Grossman should start.

[Sticksboi05]

Grossman should start.

Why on Earth should that clown start? This isn't a situation where a good or great QB had an off day, Rex is Rex. He blows and he is a turnover machine.

[Wildbunny]

Same here, I don't see how the coaches could justify keeping Grossman in.

I would say they want to see how Grossman do after a terrific performance. If he's able to rebound or not. I think he'll start next week, on a short leash too.
If he just can't climb up and refresh himself, we're in deep trouble if Beck gets hurt and a QB completly out of the game. So I don't think killing Rex right now would be a good thing.
I believe he would agree being benched right now, but somehow you have to know if he can rebound or not. If he jus't can't, you might as well put him 3rd on the list and activate the PS guy.

That's why I think Rex will start next against the Panthers (but I might be wrong :P)

[Malcomb Kelly's Knees]

its to the point where if grosman starts, ill just fins something else to watch, because i cant stand to see him play any longer.

so terrible

[illone]

if Rex starts I won't watch.

Can't wait for him to be off the team.

[skins2victory]

After listining to Moss's interview on redskins.com today, not only do I think Rex deserves one more shot, I hope he gets it.

[SittingBull]

Shanahan had a press conference at 3pm didnt he? Anyone watch it?

[SlkyCaramel]

Shanahan had a press conference at 3pm didnt he? Anyone watch it?

I did, he said he won't announce who is starting until Wednesday.

[Brandon Lloyd Christmas]

if Rex starts I won't watch.

Can't wait for him to be off the team.

oh ill watch for sure, i just wont take the team seriously until he stops playing.

[No Excuses]

I did, he said he won't announce who is starting until Wednesday.

That's pretty good indication that it will be Beck. If Rex had coach support, Shanahan would have crushed all the doubt today.

[Robbynice]

I did, he said he won't announce who is starting until Wednesday.

I have a feeling Rex will start...

[SpacePenguin]

if Rex starts I won't watch.

Can't wait for him to be off the team.


Agreed. The last time I took this stance was JC's last year. I sure didn't miss watching him play, either.

The first half vs the Eagles was a traumatic event to me. If Rex starts, I''m taking it as a insult to the fans from little Shanny, because there's no way Mike is happy with Rex after these last few games.

At least I ****ing hope not.

A person can only tolerate so much of this.

[TD_washingtonredskins]

I do want to jump in and point out that, though I've given up on Rex being a good QB for us, I do think he's probably a nice guy and hope that he takes the demotion well. I have no doubt that many of players probably are behind and that, by itself, is a quality that many of our previous QBs have not had.

[DM72]

After he pulled McNabb last year, don't he have to pull Grossman?

[SpacePenguin]

I bet Terrance Austin doesn't support Rex.

Its starting to look like he won't have a career at all without Beck back there. Meh, works for me.

[Skinzerdie]

Beck starts... OR WE RIOT!

[THE HAMMER'IN HOG]

Beck will be the guy from here on out, Gross is gross, he played OK against the Giants but we needed a defensive play by Kerrigan to seal the game, Arizona is pretty bad and the defense had to save the day again, he couldn't put the ball in the end zone against the Boy's which any TD would have won the game, and he almost passed the Rams to a victory when we had the game locked late, then we watch horrid INT after INT against the Cheese-steaks and people want this guy to continue? You have to be kidding!!!!!!!!!!!! I would be absolutely shocked if Shanny goes with Gross, SHOCKED!

[Skinzerdie]

Occupy FedEx!!

[gaskinsfan]

Please... no... no... can't take care of the ball.

[darrell1106]

:no:

He won't see the field in Charlotte this weekend. If he still is the starter by Wednesday, I'd be surprised.

Plus 1:(

[NIGHTHAWK1024]

ONE BAD GAME WTF???????? I hope you know Mcnabb has had and 80 qb rating in everygame accept in the season opener and Mcnabb doesn't look so hot...so what does that say about REX...Funny though I bet you would say Mcnabb stinks smh

Yeah and you have a better chance of winning with McNabb than you do with Ponder. Rex has been looking like a chicken with his head cut off trying to make the big play. I'm sorry but honestly we need to have Beck in there as well as Hankerson and Paul and why not Banks. We all know we will be the 3rd best team in our division. Beck may be a stop gap but some of these young players need playing time so why not do it.

[Skinsfanatic_1]

...and while I don't feel good about it but I feel the coach can't yank him from the starting lineup because of one bad game. That will send the wrong message to the team. You have to atleast give him one half to see what he can do in Carolina and if he messes up you come in with Beck but they both have to prepare as if they are both starting this week. What say you guys?

Dood. He has the worst quarterback rating in the league...and Beck gives us the best chance to win.

[smurfs86]

Please, anybody but Rex. I'll even put Rocca back there before I start Rex again this week. Beck isn't the savior, but he's better than Grossman. Give him a chance

[derskinsfan]

Let's not look at the obvious: The four picks yesterday and the declining level of play over the previous three games.

Let's just look at the current state of the offense: two starting linemen out, one for the season. Wouldn't a more mobile QB (Beck) be a better way to go?

The Cooley injury: Not been talked about much, but I blame that one on Grossman. He totally laid Cooley out to dry on the pass in which he was hurt.

If you yank Grossman now, I would argue that you can put him back in if Beck doesn't play well over the course of a few games. If you let Grossman start against Carolina and he continues to play poorly, you've completely burnt that bridge.

Is it sending the wrong message to the rest of the team to bench Grossman? Hard to answer. And some might say yes given Moss's comments today. But I think Moss is just being a good teammate and saying that guys deserve to be able to make mistakes without looking over their shoulder. I think positioning the switch as trying to give the team the best chance to win is what most of the locker room will respond to.

Is Grossman too "fragile" for a benching? No. I actually think this is one instance where Grossman's attitude is an advantage. He's played this way his entire career. He will probably continue to play this way. That means you can put him back in and get the same package: the good and the bad. You're not going to damage this guy too badly by benching him.

Start Beck, find out what he's got. The box is open. You have to follow through.

[GO HAMSKINS]

Yeah and you have a better chance of winning with McNabb than you do with Ponder. Rex has been looking like a chicken with his head cut off trying to make the big play. I'm sorry but honestly we need to have Beck in there as well as Hankerson and Paul and why not Banks. We all know we will be the 3rd best team in our division. Beck may be a stop gap but some of these young players need playing time so why not do it.

Fair enough

[Bat~man]

After hearing how much support he has from guys like Moss, I think he'll start too.

I don't get it, how many INTs does this dude have to throw to make people understand that he is an INT throwing machine? It's not like he JUST now started throwing picks, he's been throwing them his whole damn career!@

You can't blame Rex entirely for this loss, of course not. The defense could have pitched a shutout >< You can however blame him for taking 4 potential scoring drives away from us, killing our momentum and giving it right back to Philly. That's how we lost.

[Skinzfever2010]

lol if Rex starts its time to start questioning why Shanahan is the coach and what direction is this team headed in. This reminds me of Galloway starting until it became to obvious that he shouldn't start anymore or being playing.

Coach Gibbs needs to call Ego now. This isn't Denver baby, we fans we be chanting for Beck like he was Montana if you try and impose your will on us. We have been beating to long by false expectations and Dan's media hype machine. We are the reason Vinny got axed in 09. We just stopped tolerating the ****.

Start Rex and loose in NC next week and be ready to get booed out of Fed Ex.

[Mooka]

What difference does it make? Either one is dogmeat on Sunday behind whatever patchwork line we throw out there.

[Prototype]

IMO, the starting offensive lineup should be

QB Beck
RB Helu
WR Moss, Austin, Hankerson, Armstrong

These young guys need playing time, and its evident we're no Super Bowl caliber team, so why not give these guys game experience and see what they can bring to the table? Helu at least is explosive, as well as Austin, and who knows yet with Hankerson?

[bih]

send a wrong message to team by bench him?!?!?!? He needs to be released yesterday, he costed the team two games so far! Who in their right mind would start that idiot? Why I think Shanahan is on the right path hes so damn wrong about the QB.

[redskin01fan]

...and while I don't feel good about it but I feel the coach can't yank him from the starting lineup because of one bad game. That will send the wrong message to the team. You have to atleast give him one half to see what he can do in Carolina and if he messes up you come in with Beck but they both have to prepare as if they are both starting this week. What say you guys?

If so... He will be on a very very short leash

[darrelgreenie]

Rex could start in Carolina and it wouldn't shock me.
Starting Beck is an admission of a mistake.
If Rex is Kyle's guy then playing Rex against the Panthers weak defense is a no brainer.
Its a chance to save face or to lose even more credibility.

[BleedBNG]

Starting Beck is an admission of a mistake.

You didn't think we were going to go thru this whole season with Grossman as starter did you?

:no:

Starting Grossman from the beginning of the season wasn't a mistake anyways. I thought they'd go with him, and I was OK with it then. Sort of nice try, but... please... no more.

[TotalRecall]

I think Grossman sucks balls...so why keep playing him?

[darrelgreenie]

You didn't think we were going to go thru this whole season with Grossman as starter did you?......Starting Grossman from the beginning of the season wasn't a mistake anyways. I thought they'd go with him, and I was OK with it then.Wake up.

No, I didn't think Rex would start the whole season, because I thought starting Rex was a mistake in the first place.

If Beck starts against the Panthers how can starting Rex be viewed as anything other then a mistake?

Unless of course they expected Rex to play this poorly?
And if they did expect play to this poorly then shouldn't we expect more from the QB position?

[justice98]

it wasnt just one bad game. rex has been pretty poor since opening day. his QB rating hasnt been above an 80 in any game. hes thrown 9 picks in the last 4 games, and lost a fumble, thats 10 turnovers and 4 TDs in 4 games. completely terrible.

i think beck will get the shot this week.

I absolutely agree, I think if he hadn't had the week 1 performance against the Giants, we wouldn't even be having this discussion. He's been pretty underwhelming ever since and getting worse.

[WSHRedskins3ATLBraves3]

There is never any stability here at all at the QB position. With that being said, I don't know who's going to start. But I'd support the decision either way it goes.

[justice98]

Makes you wonder how Rex Grossman has managed to stay in the league this long.

[skinsfan242]

I think Rex will start and play a good game. I think Shanahan will give him another chance to start. If he doesn;t play well expect Beck the rest of the way. I just don;t see the coach wanting to show lack of confidence in his starting QB when they have a winning record with him.

It makes sense that Beck came into last game becuase he was playing awful and he was trying to get something positive.

[Brandon Lloyd Christmas]

if rex starts we can pencil this in as a loss. there is absolutely nothing that backs up him playing a good game. he has been complete **** since the giants game, and hes only been getting worse. the eagles didnt even play a good defensive game, rex just handed them turnovers. he'll do the same in carolina.

because hes awful. kyle and mike just need to move on from him and start beck. we arent contending anyways.

[SWO-tarious]

It's possible the Shanahan's started Grossman over Beck at the beginning of the season based solely on Grossman's relative familiarity with the system vice Beck. Given the abbreviated training camps and prep time and knowing that we are in a sort of rebuild mode, Mike and Kyle probably went with the safest bet. These guys aren't stupid; they know who Grossman is and what he brings. Their intention all along may have been to bring Beck in at some point because history has proven that Rex will be Rex at some point. This actually bought them 5 more weeks to get Beck ready in case he needs to come in and play. Mike Shanahan even said that Beck has looked really good during the past few weeks of practice. That's an interesting statement considering Grossman is the starter. If Brady goes down, do you think Belichick is going to waste 2 breaths talking about the strong week of practice that Hoyer has had? I kinda doubt it.

Neither QB lit it up during the pre-season and that's a fact. Grossman is a veteran with alot of baggage but has more starts than Beck. Would it make sense to start Beck out of the shoot with a highly re-built team and a lot of unknowns and run the risk of him failing or taking a chance with a QB (Grossman) who is a known quantity(good and bad) to see what we have and when Rex turns into Rex make a call to the bullpen for the reliever? I mean, we definitely have a better idea what kind of team we have now: Alot more youth and exuberance than in years past.

Beck may not be the long-term answer, but we sure as hell know that Grossman isn't the guy. We have a good young defense and a promising running game once we are healthy up front again. Beck needs a shot just to see where we stand for the future. With Rex we may go 9-7 and sniff the playoffs. Who knows, we may go 10-6 and squeak a Wildcard. But, Rex at some point will again be Rex and that just won't change. No offense to the guy, but he is just not a big-time QB.

Beck deserves a shot, and guys like Moss need to concentrate on catching the ball instead of Tweeting their thoughts. That's our job.

[bowhunter]

Uhh-Ohh If he was gonna make a switch, he would have announced Beck already. I have a bad feeling that the longer he waits to make a decision, the more likely it is that we'll be suffering from more REX-tasy

[SkinsCrushCowboys]

He has been in steady decline...granted other QB's have had (Brady) 4 INT games, but combines that with 3 TD's, I do not think we have scored more than 22 points with Rex at the helm, add in the injuries to the line and we need a more mobile QB.

Grossman is, at best, a game manager and it appears to be that he is no longer effectively managing the games and making too many bad decisions,

With that said, Beck must be underwhelming the coaches at practice for them not to tag him as the starter, but , I thought Shanny said in his presser he would announce a started Weds,

We better win with either one

[GaryGreenMonk]

Rex will start again... but he'll get crushed by our banged up Oline...

Beck will end up starting when our season is basically dead in water within the next 5 weeks or so.

so you can rejoice that in 5 weeks when we are playing pointless games.. you get to watch a pointless outting of our 30 year old rookie QB.

[Rodriggo]

...can't yank him from the starting lineup because of one bad game.

Grossman has been on borrowed time since the Cardinals game.

It hasn't been "one bad game" but "one bad balance of five games."

[SWO-tarious]

Maybe, but think of it this way: Why didn't Mike Shanahan say on Sunday following the loss to squash any QB controversy that Grossman is unequivocally our guy, next question? He didn't do that and maybe that was by design. If the first thing out of the coach's mouth following a dreadful QB performance is, "I'll tell ya who starts on Wednesday," he is saying that Grossman is done as the starter, whether it's this week or later this year (now, please!). Also, he may be waiting as long as possible to minimize Carolina's time to prepare for Beck. Oh, who am I kidding, there's no film on Beck...he hasn't played enough.

---------- Post added October-18th-2011 at 10:32 AM ----------


Uhh-Ohh If he was gonna make a switch, he would have announced Beck already. I have a bad feeling that the longer he waits to make a decision, the more likely it is that we'll be suffering from more REX-tasy

[Spear]

Grossman's crime has been trying to make plays that weren't there. From my perspective, he could have taken sacks and made the line look bad or thrown the ball away and made the receivers look bad. The blame can be shifted in a lot of different directions here.

[washedup2]

if Rex was starting, that decision would have been done immediately. "hey, he had a bad game but he is our QB" By waiting til weds, it points to Beck. "we are going to play the guy that gives us the best chance to win" that means A CHANGE.

[Never4get#21]

I feel sorry for whoever starts at this point. The O-Line has no depth and with the two latest injuries will be hard to run behind. Lot of pressure on the Qb to perform.

I want to see Beck because we seen enough of Rex to know this is what he is and wont get any better.

[skinsmania123]

Doesn't Shanny always go with the momentum player? I do not see him as Mr. Loyal. Point in fact was going with Torain over Hightower when he came in and gave us the burst, going for 135 yards and the score. Of course he downplayed it saying Hightower had a hurt shoulder, and maybe he did. But Shanny has 0 problem shifting gears and going with the "hot hand".

I think he has to go with Beck because of the beat up line. We need his mobility. Hey Beck could be the next Kurt Warner. Let's give him a chance.

[WSHRedskins3ATLBraves3]

Doesn't Shanny always go with the momentum player? I do not see him as Mr. Loyal. Point in fact was going with Torain over Hightower when he came in and gave us the burst, going for 135 yards and the score. Of course he downplayed it saying Hightower had a hurt shoulder, and maybe he did. But Shanny has 0 problem shifting gears and going with the "hot hand".

I think he has to go with Beck because of the beat up line. We need his mobility. Hey Beck could be the next Kurt Warner. Let's give him a chance.

The RB comparison is not the same thing at all. Changing RB's doesn't affect the rest of the offense in nearly the same way that changing a QB does.

And there is a 99% chance John Beck will not be the next Kurt Warner.

With all that being said, I see the arguments for both Grossman and Beck and I'll trust Shanny's judgement. I could see it going either way.

[KevinthePRF]

Rex has not had one bad game. He's had one good game, against the Giants and their gutted defense. He could of easily lost our other two wins if not for our running game and defense. We could of easily been competitive in our other two loses (Cowboys would of been a win) if not for his turnovers and inability to move the ball when our running game stalls.

Most importantly he has a HUGE rearview mirror that has plauged him his entire career. It is preached to a cliche that QBs have to have a short memory and not let mistakes get to them. Grossman tends to feed off of them. He makes a bad play, and he is so desperate to make a play to make up for his mistake, it pushes him to make bush league throws. He just can't get over himself when he makes a bad play. He's a walking slippery slope. He always will be.

[BleedBNG]

Wake up.

No, I didn't think Rex would start the whole season, because I thought starting Rex was a mistake in the first place.

If Beck starts against the Panthers how can starting Rex be viewed as anything other then a mistake?

Unless of course they expected Rex to play this poorly?
And if they did expect play to this poorly then shouldn't we expect more from the QB position?

Rex got the nod after preseason because of experience and nothing more. You go with that until something falls apart. Sorry, no mistake in that decision.

[slaga]

I do not think we have scored more than 22 points with Rex at the helm, ... The first game of the season we scored 28 points and beat the Giants by 14.

[SkinsCrushCowboys]

The first game of the season we scored 28 points and beat the Giants by 14.

you are correct, my mistake, but one was a defensive TD.......on second thought we have a proflific and explosive offense...

[SlkyCaramel]

The first game of the season we scored 28 points and beat the Giants by 14.

One of those scores was on the Kerrigan INT returned for a TD. So the offense did not score 28 points.

[Robbynice]

Well I guess Beck it is. Do you think we have a better chance to win with Beck? I don't know but I don't have too much confidence in the guy. We need the win bad in Carolina. We can't lose to a 1-5 team and be taken seriously.

[AKM311]

Well I guess Beck it is. Do you think we have a better chance to win with Beck? I don't know but I don't have too much confidence in the guy. We need the win bad in Carolina. We can't lose to a 1-5 team and be taken seriously.

EVen if we win, no one will take us serious.

[War Paint]

EVen if we win, no one will take us serious.


Well, it depends on how we win. If Beck plays well and we have a convincing win, we will be 4-2 and analysts will give Beck props and see we upgraded at QB. If we win a sloppy game, we will be a 4-2 team that nobody will really discuss during the week. If we lose, we are going to get a ton of hate. This is a must win game IMO.

[AKM311]

Well, it depends on how we win. If Beck plays well and we have a convincing win, we will be 4-2 and analysts will give Beck props and see we upgraded at QB. If we win a sloppy game, we will be a 4-2 team that nobody will really discuss during the week. If we lose, we are going to get a ton of hate. This is a must win game IMO.

Who cares what analysts say.

Regardless how we win, it will take 3 games for teams to get enough film on Beck. It is after that point where we should be able to see what he is and what the Skins are with him.

Analysts are for ratings. That is all.

[GO HAMSKINS]

ESPN reports Beck was named the starter for the Panthers game ....Meaning we will be 4-2

[RichmondRedskin88]

I think your wrong.