Redskins have faced 6 Rookie QBs since 2006...... Their record????

[neilclarke]

0-6.

Wow. Chick Hernandez mentioned this at the end of Comcast's Post Game Show. Guess Vegas is aware of this statistic as the Skins open as a 3 point dog to the 1-5 Panthers.

Here's hoping the streak ends at 6 on Sunday.

[Truant]

That feels about right. Every time I think our aggressive D is going to be licking their chops and going after a rookie QB, and then we let a Vince Young sit back and pick us apart.

[skins2victory]

Wow 0-6.... What a terrible stat. Our defence better be ready to end this streak......

[Theismann07]

I was watching the post game show and my mouth dropped open when that stat was given. Trevor Matich had a look of disbelief as well. Sure hope that changes this Sunday.

[Boss_Hogg]

The Panthers put up a lot of points, I'm not sure if our offense can match that.

[Califan007]

Who were they?...Vince Young, Sam Bradford...who else?

[rockfan7224]

The Panthers put up a lot of points, I'm not sure if our offense can match that.

Everyone said the same thing about the Eagles and they were held to 20. The Panthers are no Eagles. Cam Newton has been an interception machine this season. (let's hope Rex stays benched and we'll be fine)

[Yeen80]

Who were they?...Vince Young, Sam Bradford...who else?

Stafford and Flacco should be in there

[STBonecrusher21]

Stafford was another one i beleive.

[moondog]

I mentioned this in another thread before the season started when looking at the schedule. This is a huge game for us. Losing puts us right back into contention for bottom-dwellers and everyone will start feeling like this is the same old ordeal without a serviceable quarterback. Winning keeps us in contention for the playoffs and everyone focused on the next game against the Bills.

I realize that if we were to lose our next game it doesn't disqualify us from anything because there is still a long way to go. But looking at our schedule and knowing we still have some big holes on our roster (losing Lich for the season and Cooley/Trent for a good amount of time doesn't help) I just don't see any group of weeks where we'll be ripping off 3-4 game winning streaks. It's going to be a battle almost every game and we're going to have to win games in groups of 2 at the most at a time so we cannot afford to be sitting around .500 or below because that will pretty much be the end of it for this team.

[Califan007]

Stafford and Flacco should be in there

And Gradkowski and Fitzpatrick would round it out, I think...

[Yeen80]

And Gradkowski and Fitzpatrick would round it out, I think...

I dont think we lost to either one of them

[Califan007]

I dont think we lost to either one of them

Gradkowski while he was on the Bucs...and Fitz was the QB on the Bills when Gibbs called those back-to-back timeouts, I believe.

EDIT: Whoops, I meant Trent Edwards lol...

[Yeen80]

Josh Freeman and the Bucs last season?

[Boss_Hogg]

Fitzpatrick was a Bengal when he beat us

2008

[Truant]

Josh Freeman and the Bucs last season?

Freeman wasn't a rookie last year.

[Califan007]

Josh Freeman and the Bucs last season?

He was a rookie in 2009, not 2010...

[Yeen80]

So its:

Young
Gradkowski
Flacco
Stafford
Bradford

and whose the 6th?

[MLSKINS]

Gradkowski, Young, Stafford, Flacco, and Bradford I know. Who is the sixth one?

---------- Post added October-17th-2011 at 05:54 PM ----------

Oh yeah, it was Trent Edwards.

God we suck when it comes to rookie QBs. You know what is funny, Cam has been playing better than all of them his rookie season. :doh:

[Yeen80]

It was indeed Trent Edwards in 2007

[TheDoyler23]

Fitzpatrick was a Bengal when he beat us

2008

He was drafted in 2005, so that one is out.

We did beat Kellen Clemens, but I guess that was year two for him.

[MrJL]

I'm not surprised. The Redskins are so scheme oriented they suck against any kind of improvisation, such as the kind a rookie still learning a playbook or trying to keep down panic might engage in.

[MONTEY]

Newton Is big, strong, mobile and has no fear from most of the highlights Ive seen of him of late. His teammates love him. would probably take a bullet for him.

Cant blame Vegas. 3 point disadvantage against a damn 1-5 team is insulting but what can you do but prove it wrong? I don't think our Skins can do it tho. Panthers hate us in general and need this win badly. And as usual Skins will more then likely play down to a team like this.

[TSmithTheReal#36]

It's sad that I actually knew this stat, and it might be 0-7 after Sunday........

[sportjunkie07]

not suprised. when rookie or backups come into the game, our defense in the past has fallen apart. they dont seem to be able to cope without something new or outside of the scheme or what they had gameplanned for.

however, i do think that this year's defense is different. its legit and im not worried about it. hopefully our offense will be able to give us enough points to win.

[Enter Apotheosis]

The Panthers put up a lot of points, I'm not sure if our offense can match that.

Don't let the total yardage and individual prolificness of Cam Newton fool you, the Panthers sit in the bottom half of the league in points scored.

[RandyHolt]

i have seen our passive D's of the past sit back on rookie QB's, you have seen it too. But we did it with all the other QBs too, so its hard to remember.

The most annoying in recent memory was when Kurt Warner had an elbow cast and we didnt get after him all game. We were lucky to win that on what was our only sack of the game.

I think we can finally say we have an aggressive play caller on D. I have heard that everytime a DC is brought in, but I think this time it is true.

[GoDeep81]

however, i do think that this year's defense is different. its legit and im not worried about it. hopefully our offense will be able to give us enough points to win.

Yea, Im not afraid of the Panthers offense as much as I am our own..

[Voice_of_Reason]

Yea, Im not afraid of the Panthers offense as much as I am our own..

This is true. The Panthers have also given up a ton of yards, I believe.

The 'Skins can't win a shoot out. Not with Beck, not with Grossman.

But they MIGHT be able to clobber a few turnovers out of Carolina. And if Gross-Beck can manage to hang onto the ball, they might just be able to get a win.

4-2 is MUCH better than 3-3. 4-2 going to Canada to face a Buffalo team that has a good offense, and a questionable defense. Could be a good matchup against the 'Skins who have a good defense, and a putrid offense.

[BleedBNG]

:doh: hoping the trends stop here and now :twitch:

[Redskins4ever]

The Redskins need to hit Cam Newton and hit him hard. 0-6 is a terrible statistic, but I doubt if Newton has the ability to elude this defense the whole day. He's going to get flustered. He's going to make mistakes and throw pics to Atogwe, Hall, and Josh Wilson will pick him off all day, and most importantly, He's going to get hit by Orakpo and Kerrigan.

[scruffylookin]

It's a sad stat but in reality none of those games did the rookie QB beat us. He just didn't make killer rookie mistakes and his team beat us.

On the flip side the Skins did pound rookie Alex Smith in 2005 and rookie Eli Manning in 2004. But neither was putting up the numbers of Newton so who knows.

[Audible_Red40]

Absolutely crazy!!

[Bobbyst21]

Newton Is big, strong, mobile and has no fear from most of the highlights Ive seen of him of late. His teammates love him. would probably take a bullet for him.

Cant blame Vegas. 3 point disadvantage against a damn 1-5 team is insulting but what can you do but prove it wrong? I don't think our Skins can do it tho. Panthers hate us in general and need this win badly. And as usual Skins will more then likely play down to a team like this.
Oh abso-friggin-lutely we'll play down to them. All we look at is a teams record and prepare like we're playing a high school team. If we were playing the Packers and their 5-0 record we'd be better prepared and play our best. But 1-5 or worse teams will haunt us. Always have and always will.

[SkinzBoi85]

Just as long as none of this goes down............ http://youtu.be/uE7ZBTvrtIA

[BurntToast]

Fitzpatrick was a Bengal when he beat us

2008

Wrong.... We beat Fitzpatrick when he was a rookie in 2005

[ciresolstice]

Sad stat really...should eat a young QB alive. That has to end Sunday. Hail!

[Pick6]

Don't forget the Skins have to face Ponder by the end of the season. Hopefully that terrible streak ends on Sunday and the Skins beat 2 rookies this season.

[gortiz]

0-6.

Wow. Chick Hernandez mentioned this at the end of Comcast's Post Game Show. Guess Vegas is aware of this statistic as the Skins open as a 3 point dog to the 1-5 Panthers.

Here's hoping the streak ends at 6 on Sunday.

so funny man ... been thinking about this since I heard chick say it. that is freaking amazing. the streak has to end man.

[Dirt]

Meh. I call it a coincidence. There's no magical curse that makes us lose vs rookies. Every year, a few teams start a rookie, some end up on our schedule, and we've lost most of our games since 2006 anyway, so there ya go. What's the record vs second-year players? Right, who cares? Players need to get this stat out of their head immediately. It doesn't matter. Just beat the Panthers.

[TSmithTheReal#36]

Make it 7 straight losses to Rookie Qb's

[gibbsfan2018]

I think it's up to 8. Can we break the streak this weekend?

[RAAZ227]

We better but these records always seem impossible to break..

[Boss_Hogg]

Records were meant to to be broken, but with this defense...anything is possible.

[Mr. Sinister]

I think we're going to lose on Sunday. I hope not, but I don't see it. We're in shambles defensively, and Foles had some good moments yesterday, without a week of starter reps in practice. We have no pass rush. Our secondary is terrible. Unless our offense can get it together, we are going to lose, and that streak will get longer.

[Leonard Washington]

Every time I think our aggressive D is going to be licking their chops and going after a rookie QB, and then we let a Vince Young sit back and pick us apart.

I noticed that too. They try to confuse rookies with coverages instead of terrifying them with blitzes.

[Boss_Hogg]

If we lose this weekend after a bye week to a rookie QB and the bottom feeding Fecals, then I'm sure the "Fire Shanahan" stories will be in full swing.

[CGSKINS]

That streak ends this week. Book it and Lock it. No way we lose this game.

[2006Skins]

That streak ends this wek. Book it and Lock it. No way we lose this game.

This is the quote that will be bumped numerous times this Sunday if it's a bad day.

[TD_washingtonredskins]

I want to see the 2011 Haslett for this game. Remember the good old days when we blamed him for one or two bad play calls per week? That cover zero he rolled out against Dallas would probably work next weekend!

[CGSKINS]

This is the quote that will be bumped numerous times this Sunday if it's a bad day. That’s Ok. I will stand by it. If we win I hope it gets bumped too. I have to stay positive. I know it’s hard but I have to stay positive.

[ejay183]

That’s Ok. I will stand by it. If we win I hope it gets bumped too. I have to stay positive. I know it’s hard but I have to stay positive.

I am with you brother.

[TerrificTim]

I think this will be a good game to break the streak. The Eagles are in shambles and are falling faster than we are (which is pretty bad) also we are coming off a bye and should be healthier this week than previous. Nick Foles might be a long term answer but their offense doesnt work on the dink and dunk stuff that our defense allows. Our defense has been doing better at containing defenses and I think that continues this week when we play a team that has essentially given up.

[Skinz4Life12]

Who were they?...Vince Young, Sam Bradford...who else?

Cam should be in there too I believe or did we not play him last year? I really can't remember

[jservs7]

I wish this stat was surprising to me, but I'm a Redskins fan.

[DeadExField]

Cam should be in there too I believe or did we not play him last year? I really can't remember

I believe we did, I remember Steve Smith dogging us and doing the eat up taunt after every catch

[illone]

Ew, it's up to 8 now isn't it :ols:

RG3 lead Skins are 0-0 vs rookies. Please carry this team to a W. It's high time the Skins kick another team while they are down.

[wrecker]

If we lose this weekend after a bye week,at home, to a rookie QB and the bottom feeding Fecals, then I'm sure the "Fire Shanahan" stories will be in full swing.

as it should well be.

[Rey]

Everyone said the same thing about the Eagles and they were held to 20. The Panthers are no Eagles. Cam Newton has been an interception machine this season. (let's hope Rex stays benched and we'll be fine)

But they're pretty close. Vick is a turnover machine.

[pjfootballer]

That streak ends this week. Book it and Lock it. No way we lose this game.

Wow, going out on a limb there. I don't think I've seen this the last 3 weeks in the prediction thread. You know when someone says, "book it or lock it," we'll win.

[Duckus]

0 - 8 against rookie QBs is an incredible stat.

[RSanz]

Gut feeling? The streak gets extended to 0-9. :puke:

[DC9]

1) Week 6 of the 2006 season - 1st round draft pick Vince Young came into FedEx Field and won 25-22 with the aide of some gaffes by the Redskins.

2) Week 11 of the 2006 season - 6th round draft pick Bruce Gradkowski spoiled Jason Campbell's debut as a starter with a 20-17 win at Raymond James Stadium.

3) Week 13 of the 2007 season - The Sean Taylor game - Rookie 3rd round pick Trent Edwards and his Buffalo Bills kicked the Redskins and their fans in the heart with a 17-16 win at FedEx Field, in the cold rain, minus #21...

4) Week 14 of the 2008 season - first round pick Joe Flacco contributed to the Redskins slide at the end of the 2008 season by beating the Redskins at M&T Bank Stadium 24-10. This game wasn't even as close as the score indicates...

5) Week 3 of the 2009 season - number 1 overall pick Matthew Stafford ended a 19 game losing streak by the Lions by defeating the Redskins 19-14. This was the game that affectively ended the Vinny Cerrato era in Washington, DC.

6) Week 3 of the 2010 season - number 1 overall pick Sam Bradford gives the home St Louis Crowd their first win of the 2010 season and the first win of his career in a 30-16 win... it was as much fun then as it sounds now....

7) Week 7 of the 2011 season - number 1 overall pick Cameron Newton led the Panthers over the Redskins at Bank of America Stadium 33-20. The ballad of John Beck was born in this game... and it would become a hit single the next week in Toronto vs the Bills.

8) Week 16 of the 2011 season - first round pick Christian Ponder led the Vikings to victory - well, sort of, he was hurt in this game, and Joe Webb came in and cleaned up the Redskins... but the loss still goes to the Redskins. Christmas eve at FedEx and the Skins got a 33-26 lump of coal. Thank goodness I had a DD for this game....


EDIT: Glad you guys bumped this... I've been working on the above post, etc for about an hour and a half to start a new thread. I didn't see this one at all...

[Rypien1191]

I'm looking forward to this weekend. It's going to be the game that gets either Andy Reid or Jim Haslett fired. Really a win win.

[Botched]

I only have seven... are you guys counting Josh Johnson? Josh Johnson was in his first year as a starter, but he wasn't on the practice squad in 2008... he was on the 53. But he never played until 2009. He's the only one I could find to make it 8.



Sam Bradford in 2010

[DC9]

Sam Bradford in 2010

thanks! I mixed him up with Matt Stafford...haha.

[Sticksboi05]

To actually go 0-8 is disgustingly pathetic.

[Heavy Jumbo]

Does anybody know what our overall record is against rookie QB's? I've tried looking at stats but can't find anything.

[DC9]

Does anybody know what our overall record is against rookie QB's? I've tried looking at stats but can't find anything.

I had to go year by year for the info I got in the post above, mate. Good luck.

[Heavy Jumbo]

I had to go year by year for the info I got in the post above, mate. Good luck.

More work than I'm willing to put into it, but thanks! :)

[pointyfootball]

I'm looking forward to this weekend. It's going to be the game that gets either Andy Reid or Jim Haslett fired. Really a win win.

Reid's already fired...he just hasn't left the building yet.

[Bishop Hammer]

Ew, it's up to 8 now isn't it :ols:

RG3 lead Skins are 0-0 vs rookies. Please carry this team to a W. It's high time the Skins kick another team while they are down.

Good point. Besides the streak might end since the Skins have a rookie qb starting?

[SirClintonPortis]

Good point. Besides the streak might end since the Skins have a rookie qb starting?Nope, that shouldn't matter.

Jason Campbell vs Bruce Gradkowski. Campbell loses. The football gods hate us very, very much.

[Bishop Hammer]

Nope, that shouldn't matter.

Jason Campbell vs Bruce Gradkowski. Campbell loses. The football gods hate us very, very much.

Well that was the problem right there Campbell was our starting QB.:ols:

[SirClintonPortis]

Well that was the problem right there Campbell was our starting QB.:ols:

Ah, but it was Bruce freaking Gradkowski he was facing. ;)

[beachboy757]

The bad part is these rookies have been beating us even when we had a so called top 10 defense and what is it with Sam Bradford and Cam Newton? Why are they like kryptonite to Haslett?

[Bacon]

3) Week 13 of the 2007 season - The Sean Taylor game - Rookie 3rd round pick Trent Edwards and his Buffalo Bills kicked the Redskins and their fans in the heart with a 17-16 win at FedEx Field, in the cold rain, minus #21...

Holy ****, that was to a rookie too?? The worst game ever got even worse.

[martytheman]

I think it's because hasbeen always plays rookies like they're John Elway or Joe Montana, rush few and drop the rest into coverage (with predictable results)

Why he doesn't get a clue from the other 31 coordinators out there who would blitz a rookie to hell is beyond me.. it seems like he makes his plan and sticks to it, results be damned.

[DC9]

Nope, that shouldn't matter.

Jason Campbell vs Bruce Gradkowski. Campbell loses. The football gods hate us very, very much.

Campbell wasn't a rookie if memory serves. It was just his first start.

[Botched]

It just occurred to me that we will face Nick Foles twice this year, and then Brandon Weeden in week 15. By the end of the year the streak could potentially be 11 :ols:

[Redskins4ever]

The Redskins are going to have to break that losing streak against rookie passers at some time or another. Hopefully it starts against Foles this Sunday.

[DC9]

The Redskins are going to have to break that losing streak against rookie passers at some time or another. Hopefully it starts against Foles this Sunday.

Did the home losing streak end at 9 games? I think it did, but it may have been 8.

Another weird stat that I believe Chic Hernandez put out: We have lost something like 9 straight home games when facing teams that have a five game losing streak or more. So there are two factors working against us.

[skinsfan1993]

Did the home losing streak end at 9 games? I think it did, but it may have been 8.

Another weird stat that I believe Chic Hernandez put out: We have lost something like 9 straight home games when facing teams that have a five game losing streak or more. So there are two factors working against us.
not to mention having the, you know, worst defense in nfl history. that doesn't help at all. xD

[SAli457180]

IMO, the streak continues to 0-7 this Sunday unless they develop a pass rush and have a secondary that can cover which they don't. This is a typical game that the Skins ALWAYS lose. A desperate team coming in on dire straights facing the Skins. Guys like Sam Bradford and Vince Young, and most recently last year with Cam Newton all came in and somehow figured out how to beat the Skins. This Sunday should be no different. It's depressing, but has become the norm when it comes to the Skins. I hope I'm wrong, but I probably won't be.

[httrburgundyandgold]

Dont forget stafford, and the lions were on a 19 game losing streak when they beat us.

[gortiz]

that's just brutally amazing ... how does that happen?

It is a clear indicment of the coaches we have had ... Dick LeBeau, with a bunch of bums pulled off the street would not lose 8 in a row, let alone with NFL caliber players.

sickening ... :mad::mad::mad: