Idiot speculates Peyton Manning will be traded Skins. ES falls for it,panic ensues even. IQ points drop like flies

[70th Week]

the Washington Redskins....so says Adam Shefter on an on-line question chat....link from Yahoo Sports...

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[Skinz4Life12]

Lol wouldn't that be something. That has Vinny/Danny written all over it IMO

[Jeffro]

http://sports.yahoo.com/sportsminute

Yahoo has a story up on the front page about a suitor for Manning if he's traded and per the story Adam Schefter indicated the Redskins would be interested/likely..

Im guessing their is no basis for it, but let me tell you.. if there is truth to this and we decide to go with Manning given his age/neck injuries behind our line then this Allen/Shanahan homer is done being a Allen/Shanahan homer.

It would also make me strongly consider ending my 32 year relationship with the Skins.

[SkinsHokieFan]

After the McNabb disaster there is no way the Redskins make this mistake again

[70th Week]

merge please..

[Mahons21]

Sounds like the smoke screens have begun IMO, I still think we draft a QB.

[Jeffro]

Sorry, I see someone beat me to this, left the compose window up a few minutes and did check before I posted. My apologies.

[Painkiller]

Sounds like the smoke screens have begun IMO, I still think we draft a QB.

Could be. Maybe they are prepared to offer quite a bit for Luck.

[authentic]

Any input from the "leaf gang" on this?.... Personally i'm calling BS!!

---------- Post added November-15th-2011 at 10:51 AM ----------


Sounds like the smoke screens have begun IMO, I still think we draft a QB.

this is exactly what i think it is. We all know that Shefty is Shanny's "BS mouth piece"....

[Phil Lesh]

Wow, horrible, HORRIBLE, idea. Horrible.

[Phil Lesh]

Like this franchise needs another reason to mocked by the rest of the NFL.

[kleese]

Screw it, make the move. Why not? We suck September-December anyway, so we might as well make March and April interesting like the good ole days. Maybe we get blindly lucky, he's healthy, and we can enjoy a season or two before it blows up.

[B&GVol24]

Yeah my immediate thought was smoke-screen. Maybe even to see how attached Indy really is to him, or if they're willing to move on.

At least I hope. I've backed Shanny from the start, but this move would enrage the fan base.

[terryb101]

thats ok danny will make up for the fact that manning is over the hill by giving him 35 million a year

[WSHRedskins3ATLBraves3]

this is exactly what i think it is. We all know that Shefty is Shanny's "BS mouth piece"....

Actually, we don't know that. We know they are friends and wrote a book together.

Most of the stuff Schefter reports is true.

With that being said, this is not a report. This is speculation and nothing more.

[KDawg]

No thanks. He's 36, would need to learn the personnel, the system, the protection schemes and is coming off of injury. I have no doubt he can still compete at a high level for Indy. But he is not our solution.

[theTruthTeller]

Even better than DMcNabb and older too. Let's do it!

[WhoRUSupposed2Be]

It's good to have something to talk about to keep us relevant in the football world while losing.

Anyone that thinks there's any merit to this is really not paying attn. here.

[Boss_Hogg]

pure speculation, not fact.

[Lombardi's_kid_brother]

This worries me. Out of all the ESPN talking heads, Schefter is the least likely to just spout nonsense based on stereotypes from 2002.

[#98QBKiller]

After the McNabb disaster there is no way the Redskins make this mistake again

x 1 million

No way Shanahan makes that mistake again, even for someone as accomplished as Manning. I'd rather us trade the farm away for Andrew Luck.

[Rypien1191]

After the McNabb disaster there is no way the Redskins make this mistake again

I'm not saying its a GREAT idea, but comparing Peyton to McNabb is insanity.

If anything, it would buy us 3 years on the QB issue while we get other pieces in place.

[AKM311]

This worries me. Out of all the ESPN talking heads, Schefter is the least likely to just spout nonsense based on stereotypes from 2002.

That and he talks to Shannahan often. He knows things that no one else knows.

I am praying this is not true.

[skinsfan1523]

If this happens I might lose faith in this organization. This is what the old skins do we need to find our own QB.

[Boy1Der]

What would we give up for him a first rounder, than I would start rooting for another team that is just stupid I would rather we just give the Colts 3 first round picks for Luck or do the smart thing and draft the best available QB with our current first rounder.

[Lombardi's_kid_brother]

I'm not saying its a GREAT idea, but comparing Peyton to McNabb is insanity.

If anything, it would buy us 3 years on the QB issue while we get other pieces in place.

Assuming that Manning is not crippled....

I'm just trying to imagine a physically limited Manning who still thinks he is a superstar throwing a pick because Fred Davis was too stoned to run the correct option route. I don't imagine a pretty reaction.

[GaryGreenMonk]

I could see us signing Manning and then drafting someone like Tannehill that needs a year or 2 in the NFL to learn first.

Tannehill will be leaving college with only 20 career starts as he was a WR converted to QB.

[Mr. Nostril]

And a choker too. Most people stopped calling Manning a choker after he won a Super Bowl, but he went 10 wins or better in 11 of 12 years, and 12 win or better 7 years in a row. However, the only super bowl he won was the year he happened to draw Rex Grossman as an opposing quarterback in the big game. Sorry, but he's still a choker.

[terrifNick21]

What if they trade for Manning and still take a QB first round?

There's not a better QB for a rookie to learn from.

:2cents:

[AKM311]

What if they trade for Manning and still take a QB first round?

There's not a better QB for a rookie to learn from.

:2cents:

That means we trade a future first? No thanks.

[DWil]

I have total faith that this team will finish 4-12 and be in position to draft one of the top 3 QB's in the 2012 draft. I don't want to see or hear about this story ever again!

[RonArtest15]

This would be a COMPLETE disaster....PLEASE don't let this happen.

[Boss_Hogg]

my god we would get killed behind our putrid offensive line.

[GaryGreenMonk]

What if they trade for Manning and still take a QB first round?

There's not a better QB for a rookie to learn from.

:2cents:

this is what makes sense to me..

if they have their eye on a kid like Tannehill... Who can't start immediately... they'll need someone. Unless you all want to keep watching Grossman throw the ball until the kid is ready.

[illone]

:doh:

Make it stop.

[MartinC]

If Manning is fit to play he will be a Colt, if he cant play he will retire and probably go into coaching - and be great at that as well.

I just cant see the Colts wanting to trade him or Manning wanting to be traded, plus his contract and the $28M bonus due in March I believe (so before any team trading for him would know if he was 100 healthy) makes it very difficult for any trade to happen IMO absent a restructure.

[terrifNick21]

That means we trade a future first? No thanks.

Says who?

[RonArtest15]

this is what makes sense to me..

if they have their eye on a kid like Tannehill... Who can't start immediately... they'll need someone. Unless you all want to keep watching Grossman throw the ball until the kid is ready.

But you're going to mortgage your future to get Manning...it's going to take MULTIPLE picks to pry him away from indy. We don't need him. What we need to do is to continue to stockpile picks and DEVELOP our own talent. We've been down this road before. I could care less about manning being a 1st ballot HOFer....this is NOT what the skins need. I would be irate if they actually make this move.

[WSHRedskins3ATLBraves3]

That means we trade a future first? No thanks.

I don't want to trade for Manning, but nobody is going to trade a first for an old QB with a possibly career ending neck injury.

[HogNose]

Johnny Unitas was traded to the Chargers. That sure was a success. :rolleyes:

No thank you.

[GaryGreenMonk]

I have total faith that this team will finish 4-12 and be in position to draft one of the top 3 QB's in the 2012 draft. I don't want to see or hear about this story ever again!

Just because we draft a guy top 5.. it doesn't mean hes ready to go day 1.

often, that's not the best idea. It can work sometimes.. Andy Dalton, Cam Newton. But other times it won't.. Matt Lienart.. or countless others.

[Flycoach]

Please, please, please, please, let this be some sort of cruel joke.

[Botched]

As much as I love Peyton Manning, I don't think I ever want to see him without a horseshoe on his helmet.

[DavidGQ]

Colts has until Feb to take on Manning contract for 2012. If they opt out, we can sign Manning as a FA without giving up picks. If the Colts do take on Manning contract and Draft Luck, they will take less in trade for Manning. Less than Palmer trade IMO

Sheffer is very tight with Mike so there maybe some truth in it.

[GaryGreenMonk]

it's going to take MULTIPLE picks to pry him away from indy.

No it won't.

Manning is 35 and off major surgery.

I bet he is worth no more than a 3rd or less.

[Goingforburgundy]

Im on both sides of the fence here. Giving up picks is something I dont want to do but If we do say a second and a 3rd for manning next years or some combination and move back in the draft this year to pick up Tannenhill late first rounder we might break even.

[redskinss]

It's not going to happen but the only way I would be happy about it is if we didn't give up much considering his age and his neck injury, and we drafted a quarterback early in this years draft.
There is no way the colts are gonna let him go without getting this years first out of somebody but if we could get him for less than that considering his age and health and contract size I would be happy if we could and still drafted a qb in the first this year.

[Destructis]

It won't happen. Manning has been in his offense for his entire career. It would be stupid for Shanny to trade for him and draft a QB. Then use Manning to help teach. Even if this information comes from Sheffter, it's still crap.

[HogNose]

What if they trade for Manning and still take a QB first round?

There's not a better QB for a rookie to learn from.

:2cents:

Now that would be epic! Damn I'm getting excited thinking of that situation. Draft Tannehill and have Manning mentor him. :cloud9:

[WSHRedskins3ATLBraves3]

But you're going to mortgage your future to get Manning...it's going to take MULTIPLE picks to pry him away from indy. We don't need him. What we need to do is to continue to stockpile picks and DEVELOP our own talent. We've been down this road before. I could care less about manning being a 1st ballot HOFer....this is NOT what the skins need. I would be irate if they actually make this move.

Hopefully we don't do this, but it would not take multiple picks.

[RonArtest15]

No it won't.

Manning is 35 and off major surgery.

I bet he is worth no more than a 3rd or less.

If you think Indy will let Manning walk for ONLY a 3rd, I got a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.

[GaryGreenMonk]

Now that would be epic! Damn I'm getting excited thinking of that situation. Draft Tannehill and have Manning mentor him. :cloud9:

i agree that would be a smarter move than the overreaction that you'd see here.

who's our young QB going to learn from right now? Rex Grossman? you all want our young QB learning from Rex Grossman and John Beck?

[RonArtest15]

Hopefully we don't do this, but it would not take multiple picks.



Let's think about how the Redskins do business....

[GaryGreenMonk]

If you think Indy will let Manning walk for ONLY a 3rd, I got a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.

I do. everyone in the league knows they are buying a 1-3 year rental until he retires.

how much do you think teams would be willing to hand over for that?

[RonArtest15]

I do. everyone in the league knows they are buying a 1-3 year rental until he retires.

how much do you think teams would be willing to hand over for that?

See my above post...again, let's think about how the Skins do business. This is why I'm nervous about this rumor. If there is ANY truth, prepare for the worst. I could easily see the Skins giving up multiple picks to get him out of Indy. There are a lot of holes on this offense and I'm not even sure if Peyton Manning on this team makes us better than 9 wins.

[SKIN4WAHOOZ]

Im guessing their is no basis for it, but let me tell you.. if there is truth to this and we decide to go with Manning given his age/neck injuries behind our line then this Allen/Shanahan homer is done being a Allen/Shanahan homer.

It would also make me strongly consider ending my 32 year relationship with the Skins.


For the right price, how could you not like the idea.

You could do us a favor and end it today if you'd like!

[jeffsays]

Would people be upset if we drafted a QB and got Manning? What harm could come from Manning teaching our rookie?

[thecardiacrll]

This worries me. Out of all the ESPN talking heads, Schefter is the least likely to just spout nonsense based on stereotypes from 2002. The reason it worries me is not just because Shefter is the least likely to spout nonsense but we all know Shanahan hates rookie Qb's and loves veterans. And Peyton Manning is one of the best veterans you can get. Id be so pissed off with all the good QB's available in this draft.

[redskinss]

The only hole in our theory of getting him cheap to mentor a young quarterback is the old saying, what's good for the goose is good for the gander.

Were in an almost identical position as the colts. If it would make sense to pay the 28 million bonus to Peyton so he could mentor a young stud qb then the colts would do it.

[JCav06]

For the love of Gibbs, please don't let this be true.

[Mr. Nostril]

Johnny U with the Chargers
Montana with the Chiefs
Joe Namath with the Rams
Brett Favre with the Jets
Emmitt Smith with the Cardinals
Tony Dorsett with the Broncos
Franco Harris with the Seahawks
OJ Simpson with the 49ers
Thurman Thomas with the Dolphins
Jerry Rice with the Seahawks
Art Monk with the Eagles

If Peyton Manning ever plays for someone besides the Colts, he's on this list.

[AKM311]

Says who?

Colts will want and will get a 1st for Manning.

We won't give up this years first, but we will have to give up next years. It is not worth it. Otherwise they will keep Luck on the bench and let Manning get two more year for a ring

---------- Post added November-15th-2011 at 04:48 PM ----------


I don't want to trade for Manning, but nobody is going to trade a first for an old QB with a possibly career ending neck injury.

Ok, yes neck injury is something to watch.

But if he is fully recovered, someone will give a first. Manning will play until he is 41 (if his neck is truly healthy) and someone will give up a first to get him (if he is available). Remember, Manning is a Colts legend. It will take a lot to pry him away from them.

[paloosa]

It is highly unlikely that this will happen because if the injury is that bad that the Colts are willing to trade himto make room for a Rookie like Luck then that screams a big NOOOOOOOOOOOO! I say only do it if it doesn't affect our draft position or cost too much. I think that Manning is smart enough to know where he wants to go if that were to happen or he will just retire.

[mojo]

Johnny U with the Chargers
Montana with the Chiefs
Joe Namath with the Rams
Brett Favre with the Jets
Emmitt Smith with the Cardinals
Tony Dorsett with the Broncos
Franco Harris with the Seahawks
OJ Simpson with the 49ers
Thurman Thomas with the Dolphins
Jerry Rice with the Seahawks
Art Monk with the Eagles

If Peyton Manning ever plays for someone besides the Colts, he's on this list.

Well, both Favre and Montana did great things with the Vikings and Chiefs...Just sayin'

[urblessed00]

I'm so sick of ......................one these stories..and two this team either entertaining such foolishness and worse yet...acting on it. Again,.........stop taking the easy way out,....go draft a qb. Is it a lock? No. But stop pinching off other teams who are givingggggggggggg away their players. This is not 26 year old Peyton Manning. This is not a team that is a qb away from the Super Bowl. It's a team in a rebuild. Does it need a franchise qb? Yes. A young.......rookie.......franchise qb. I'm sick of this team being the posterboy for stupid trades and ideas. Did they learn nothing from their last trade for a mid-30's qb? This is just stupid.

[SlinginSammy HOF '63]

Im guessing their is no basis for it, but let me tell you.. if there is truth to this and we decide to go with Manning given his age/neck injuries behind our line then this Allen/Shanahan homer is done being a Allen/Shanahan homer.

It would also make me strongly consider ending my 32 year relationship with the Skins.


Thankfully this is speculation by a talking head and not a rumor with substance, and I agree with everything you said here. I would lose all faith in Shanahan/Allen and could possibly end this 34 year fan's support of this organization.

[Skins199021]

I don't know.... a lot of things would have to be just right for me to want this happen.

1st-Manning is clear to play for about another 4 years, and his neck isn't a problem

2nd- he cost us a 2013 1st round pick and a 2012 3rd or both 2012 4ths ...... I could maybe live with that

3rd- We make sure our O-line is good, hell draft Khalil and then trade our 2nd and something back into the 1st round and draft Decastro

Draft Kellen Moore late in the draft


These are the circumstances that I would require to be OK with a Peyton manning trade lol.....

and people this isn't mcnabb, mcnabb was never on any level close to manning. Not saying Manning would be great, but using mcnabb as a reason not too is kind of silly.

[Bang]

When we are no longer the default "potential suitor" for any player who may be moved, then our culture will have changed.

My bet is there's nothing to this rumor, but when making an assumption about who might make a dumb trade or sign the highest dollar FA on the market the Redskins are always a safe name to write. Even if it's not true at all, the majority of NFL fans will still believe it.

We're the gal with the reputation of being easy.

~Bang

[SkinsCrushCowboys]

a 50% Manning is better than 100% Rex/Beck..although I cannot imagine this happening.

[RonArtest15]

I don't know.... a lot of things would have to be just right for me to want this happen.

1st-Manning is clear to play for about another 4 years, and his neck isn't a problem

2nd- he cost us a 2013 1st round pick and a 2012 3rd or both 2012 4ths ...... I could maybe live with that

3rd- We make sure our O-line is good, hell draft Khalil and then trade our 2nd and something back into the 1st round and draft Decastro

Draft Kellen Moore late in the draft

These are the circumstances that I would require to be OK with a Peyton manning trade lol.....

and people this isn't mcnabb, mcnabb was never on any level close to manning. Not saying Manning would be great, but using mcnabb as a reason not too is kind of silly.

Why?

[bird_1972]

After the McNabb disaster there is no way the Redskins make this mistake again

As long as Snyder is the owner, there is always the chance the team does something stupid like this.

[NLC1054]

This isn't happening.

Why are people getting bent out of shape on this? It's simply not going to happen. Period. I'll gladly eat my Redskins hat if it does. But it's not going to happen. Why are we linked to Peyton Manning? Because we are linked to EVERYONE.

We were linked to a dozen high priced free agents this season. It later came out that most of that was complete bullcrap, orchestrated by agents to bid up the price of their players. Two weeks before the draft, everyone and their mother swore we were looking to trade the farm to move up and draft Blaine Gabbert. He fell to us, and then we traded down and didn't draft him. Nothing the "experts" have said is going to happen with the Redskins has actually HAPPENED with the Redskins this past season.

Peyton Manning won't come close to being in burgundy and gold. Some other desperate football team will add him, but the season isn't half over. It's an easy story for ESPN to put out there into the ether and know they're going to get a lot of play because our quarterback situation is ass right now.

[ConcordNCSkinsFan]

Would it be too far fetched to think that Snyder would conspire to fire Mike and Bruce, quietly bring Vinny back in the background, hire Cowher and trade for Manning. Of Course Not!

[WSHRedskins3ATLBraves3]

Let's think about how the Redskins do business....

How the Redskins used to do business?

We haven't made a stupid deal like that in a while. The McNabb trade is the exception, and he wasn't coming off an injury like this.

[S.T.real,lights,out]

Just like they said every big name was on their way to DC last year?? :blahblah:

[GaryGreenMonk]

Thankfully this is speculation by a talking head and not a rumor with substance, and I agree with everything you said here. I would lose all faith in Shanahan/Allen and could possibly end this 34 year fan's support of this organization.

If the talking head was anyone but Schefter, then there'd be zero merit to it at all.

but it's Adam Schefter. The guy who confirms everything in the league on twitter.

[Boss_Hogg]

^^^

Exactly, we were big spenders up until 2010. For some reason BSPN can't let go of the fact that we do not spend freely like the Eagles and Cowturds.

Times have changed at Redskins park, yet some mediots are unwilling to accept it.

[MassSkinsFan]

I couldn't sit through the endless adjustments and audibles as he brings the play clock down to 0:01 on every single ****ing play. That drives me insane. :mad:

[washedup2]

dont see us going after Manning, not at his age. personally I think Barkley fits our O if we draft a QB early...., but I wouldnt have problem drafting Oline early and taking Brandon Weeden later, I know he's 28 but i think he would be a steal later in the draft. I think his age is a plus, he has a big arm also

[herrmag]

Why can't we get the SMARTEST and arguably best QB ever to grace the NFL and acquire a QB in the draft? Who better to teach a young QB than a first ballot HOF'er?

EDIT: And I'm not convinced that a 1st is the only way to acquire Peyton.

[SlinginSammy HOF '63]

Would it be too far fetched to think that Snyder would conspire to fire Mike and Bruce, quietly bring Vinny back in the background, hire Cowher and trade for Manning. Of Course Not!

This is what scares me. This can't be ruled out any more than anything else.

---------- Post added November-15th-2011 at 11:13 AM ----------


If the talking head was anyone but Schefter, then there'd be zero merit to it at all.

but it's Adam Schefter. The guy who confirms everything in the league on twitter.

If, as some have said, we'd only have to give one mid round pick, then I'd be OK with it, but I do believe that there are a number of teams that are a QB short of being a playoff team that would bid for him thus raising his price. Like I said, I see this as nothing but a rumor, but if it does happen and we have to give up major picks then what little faith I've gotten over the last two seasons will be long gone.

My issue is, just like rehabbed drunks and gambling addicts still lapse into their old ways on occasion, I would not be shocked if Snyder lapsed into his old fantasy football ways and override all management decisions by Shanny/Allen to get Manning.

[[[ghost]]]

I personally think this is all smoke and mirrors by Shanahan, but think about this:

Suppose we invest heavily in our OL in addition to Manning, and give him at least a solid group up front to work with. With a healthy Santana Moss an Hankerson, plus the vet presence of Gaffney and anyone else we bring along (Paul, Austin, rookie), do you think its impossible that Manning could turn that into a Top 12 Offense? If we do that and continue to develop on defense, we could be looking at a solid contender, although only for the immediate future.

I know all of us are ready to build around a franchise QB and take the lumps early in hopes of consistent winning, but even if this does materialize it might not be the end of the world.

[kevinklein]

This would be okay IF, and only IF, we also draft a young QB with our first pick. I wouldn't mind having our future QB tutored by Peyton— would you?

[SlinginSammy HOF '63]

];8692718']I personally think this is all smoke and mirrors by Shanahan, but think about this:

Suppose we invest heavily in our OL in addition to Manning, and give him at least a solid group up front to work with. With a healthy Santana Moss an Hankerson, plus the vet presence of Gaffney and anyone else we bring along (Paul, Austin, rookie), do you think its impossible that Manning could turn that into a Top 12 Offense? If we do that and continue to develop on defense, we could be looking at a solid contender, although only for the immediate future.

I know all of us are ready to build around a franchise QB and take the lumps early in hopes of consistent winning, but even if this does materialize it might not be the end of the world.

I think our defense is now, and has been for some time, a solid defense, but our offense is 2-3 years behind the defense in being playoff ready.

[Rocky21]

Pure speculative bull****.

And watching that segment makes me mad all over again that Snyder dumped Brad Johnson for.......Jeff George. What a moroon.

[DM72]

Why can't we get the SMARTEST and arguably best QB ever to grace the NFL and acquire a QB in the draft? Who better to teach a young QB than a first ballot HOF'er?

EDIT: And I'm not convinced that a 1st is the only way to acquire Peyton.

I agree with you on both points.

[Stadium-Armory]

No thank you.

Besides, he runs his "own" system. Would we try to shoehorn him in to Kyle's system? We've already seen that the Shannahan's don't like adjusting the system to fit the players.

[Renegade7]

Colts have an opt-out clause in Manning's contract after this season. If they feel they can't trade him and or he won't be healthy next year, they may out-right release him at get the cap money to start over with their rebuild.

Crazier things have happened...

[GaryGreenMonk]

Pure speculative bull****.

And watching that segment makes me mad all over again that Snyder dumped Brad Johnson for.......Jeff George. What a moroon.

I didn't watch... was the whole segment speculative?

Just because Adam Schefter is generally not in the speculative business and it's known that MS feeds him stuff. He also confirms EVERYTHING on twitter from rumor to fact.

[ADF]

This would be one of the dumbest moves this team could make. Doesn't make sense for a team in our situation. It would make more sense for a team like the Jets. Also, Peyton Manning isn't coming here to tutor a rookie. If he were willing to do that then he'd stay in Indy. Then there are the egos. Peyton Manning is going to want to run his offense. He's been doing it for a decade. I don't see the Shanahans wanting to give up that kind of control. It would be a complete disaster.

[NLC1054]

I didn't watch... was the whole segment speculative?

Just because Adam Schefter is generally not in the speculative business and it's known that MS feeds him stuff. He also confirms EVERYTHING on twitter from rumor to fact.

Adam Schefter also connected us with a crapton of big name free agents in the offseason, and I think he was among the people who said we were trying to move up to get Blaine Gabbert.

Schefter is a more reliable source than Jason Lie Canfora, but he's not infallible.

[Rocky21]

I didn't watch... was the whole segment speculative?

Just because Adam Schefter is generally not in the speculative business and it's known that MS feeds him stuff. He also confirms EVERYTHING on twitter from rumor to fact.How could guessing in November what the Colts will do with Manning, what Manning will do, and what our interest would be if he were available be anything other than speculation on his part? The Colts aren't going to tip off anyone on their intentions this early in the game.

[SlinginSammy HOF '63]

As ADF said, Manning won't be mentoring anyone. He is a starting QB and will be fighting to keep that job as long as he has legs to stand on. No long time vet starter is willing to train their own replacement.

[kingdaddy]

Manning would be like a coach on the field. He'd completely change our offense. Reggie Wayne would be right behind him on his way to DC. I'd give a 4th and a 2014 6th rounder for him.

[1972dodgedart]

Agree that it makes no sense -- nowhere near enough talent on offense to make it work, he won't be throwing to Clark/Wayne/Harrison. And do you want a 36-year old QB with major neck issues standing behind that offensive line?

[S.T.real,lights,out]

This would be okay IF, and only IF, we also draft a young QB with our first pick. I wouldn't mind having our future QB tutored by Peyton— would you?

Yea, but its going to cost us atleast a 1st round pick for him. I think Manning is great and would make us better right away......however two years from now then what. We go back to sucking. I will pass on Manning and go for a QB in the 1st and give that a try. We wont be as good as if we had Manning next season but in the long run hopefully it will work out.

[RonArtest15]

How the Redskins used to do business?

We haven't made a stupid deal like that in a while. The McNabb trade is the exception, and he wasn't coming off an injury like this.

Yea...you're right. We don't have a history of over-bidding via FA or making idiotic trade offers OR trades.

[The Bounty Hunter #21]

Peyton may be one of the greatest QB's to ever play the game but this is pure speculation and just wouldn't help our cause. We just have to stick with what we have the rest of the season and draft a QB...I hope.

[ADF]

Look at what happened to Manning last year when the lost some of their talent for a period of time. The guy threw 13 INTs and the Colts went 1-4 during that five game span.

[NewEraofSkins08]

Yes!! If he's healthy he will play at an elite level for 4 more years, and a high level for 6.

[herrmag]

As ADF said, Manning won't be mentoring anyone. He is a starting QB and will be fighting to keep that job as long as he has legs to stand on. No long time vet starter is willing to train their own replacement.

Agreed 100%. He won't be a father figure. But you don't think that by being in QB meetings/sessions, in practice, etc, that our drafted QB wouldn't learn? I suppose so if we draft a dullard.

Also, let's not act like Peyton takes his ball and goes home when he's not playing. He's either been on the sidelines conferring with the coaching staff or in the Coordinator booth all season long despite being injured (different than being benched, I know). He's definitely going to take the Brett Favre road and request a trade once benched, but if we can use him for 2 years WITHOUT having to drop a first, I'm all for it.

[superozman]

I have to be missing something, because why would you not give Manning a shot if he's available via trade?

1. Last year he had 4700 yards passing, 33/17 TD/INT, sacked only 16 times, 293 yds/game.
a. This year, combined the 3 QB's have sacked 21 times w/ virtually same talent up front. Manning makes line look better
2. Manning will be 36 - yes - but in last 3 years he's averaged 4400 yards, 31 TD's 15 INT''s over hte past 3 years played
3. Moss, Davis, Hankerson, Gaffney could very well be nearly as good as the Colts combo. Just look at their #'s without Manning, they are human
4. How many more years will this defense put up with below mediocrity, and who will stay if we rebuild with a new QB? This defense is too good to rebuild.

[scruffylookin]

Can we just once not go for a retread and instead hit the jackpot and find our own "Peyton Manning" ? Or Joe Gibbs for that matter.

[Duckus]

Yea, but its going to cost us atleast a 1st round pick for him.

Why? if the Colts draft Luck they will have very little leverage IMO. Manning will demand a trade.

Having said that, I don't want Manning, but I don't think he will end up costing a 1st rounder either.

[TGI Jef]

I think it is worth pointing out that Schefter can pretty much blindly report anything he wants when it involves Mike Shanahan.

If he is right, he broke the story way before anyone.

If he is wrong, he knows that everyone will assume it was a "Shanahan smokescreen" based on the perception that these two have that kind of relationship. Zero downside for Schefter to report this - he is either a genius or it is assumed he was purposefully given misleading "inside" information, thus rendering any inaccuracy someone else's fault.

Don't think for a second that Schefter doesn't realize this - his Redskin reports will always be infallible because of it.

[Rufus T Firefly]

Here's is an actual FACT that any "expert" should know as well as an internet nitwit like me:

Manning is owed a $28 million bonus on the day before this league year ends. That means it is literally impossible to trade him before paying it. So, to trade Manning, they would need to pay and then eat the cap money from that. Add that 28 mil to the dead cap from last year's bonus, and you're talking about a Colts team that would have nearly 1/3 of it's cap space tied up in one player who won't be on the team. So, they're going to draft Andrew Luck and then surround him with a team full of whatever flotsam and jetsam they can fit under the cap? All to extract whatever the trade value is of a 36 year old with a career threatening injury?

The Colts will not, can not trade Peyton Manning. He is either a Colt in 2012 or he's released before that bonus is due.

[skins island connection]

He would surely not want to mentor someone, he would want to play; he's a competitor.
BUT, if the chance of getting him AND a top college qb prospect were possible, it could very well be another Favre/Rogers situation.
Face it, the guy is class through and through, and I doubt his ego would get in the way if he knew he didn't have it anymore, but with him giving someone like Barkley the ABC's of being a great qb, it surely sounds alot better than Kyle ruining a good young prospect, and you know thats what will happen; Kyle's ego will inflate if he's given a good qb, and if the qb doesn't agree with him, here comes Rex again...

[rookieskin]

I heard that this rumor is becoming real, and they are ironing the terms out.

Straight up swap Peyton for Kerrigan and they are ironing out if we include this years 2nd rounder or next years.

[AKM311]

I heard that this rumor is becoming real, and they are ironing the terms out.

Straight up swap for Payton and Kerrigan and the only sticker if we include this years 2nd rounder or next years.

From your trash man?

[kevinklein]

Yea, but its going to cost us atleast a 1st round pick for him. I think Manning is great and would make us better right away......however two years from now then what. We go back to sucking. I will pass on Manning and go for a QB in the 1st and give that a try. We wont be as good as if we had Manning next season but in the long run hopefully it will work out.

If the price for Peyton was a 1st rounder, then absolutely not. That would be folly of the highest order.

[gchwood]

No thanks. He's 36, would need to learn the personnel, the system, the protection schemes and is coming off of injury. I have no doubt he can still compete at a high level for Indy. But he is not our solution.

Manning will install his own system, make our O-Line look like the hogs, and make Anthony Armstrong the second coming of Marvin Harrison.

[rookieskin]

From your trash man?

From Vinny's lips to HIS ears.....

[Rufus T Firefly]

Manning will install his own system, make our O-Line look like the hogs, and make Anthony Armstrong the second coming of Marvin Harrison.

And then he and Santa Claus will come down from heaven and make it rain vanilla pudding.

[MLSKINS]

@TKextremeskins TK
Manning to Skins? No. People need to stop going full retard


Nothing to see here folks, just move along.

[Boss_Hogg]

I heard that this rumor is becoming real, and they are ironing the terms out.

Straight up swap Peyton for Kerrigan and they are ironing out if we include this years 2nd rounder or next years.

so were you smoking bud with Fred Davis and Trent?

[gchwood]

And then he and Santa Claus will come down from heaven and make it rain vanilla pudding.

Then the Easter Bunny will join the team as kicker.

[VRIEL1]

P.Manning first has to pass a physical which I doubt he will be able to pass. I think his injury/surgery is the end to his career. I'd bring him on as QB coach though maybe he can coach up a young rookie.

[WSHRedskins3ATLBraves3]

Yea...you're right. We don't have a history of over-bidding via FA or making idiotic trade offers OR trades.

Vinny Cerrato and Dan Snyder do. If you've been paying attention you know that Mike and Bruce don't.

Trades they've made (excluding McNabb):

Carriker (starting DE), a 5th and a 7th for a 5th and a 7th
Hightower (starting RB) for Vonnie Holliday (800 years old and wouldn't have played) and a late conditional pick
Gaffney (starting WR) for Jarmon (didn't even make the team)
Jammal Brown (starting RT) for a 4th

Not exactly idiotic trade offers.

Unless you think Vinny and Dan are still running things our "history of over-bidding via FA or making idiotic trade offers" is completely irrelevant.

[Darth Tater]

Lets say such a trade works perfectly for us. In 3-4 years, we'll be back in the same boat, maybe even worse and few resources to even attempt to address the problem. If such a trade works as should be expected, we'll likely be in bad shape much sooner with no resources to even attempt to address the problem.

[TK]

Nothing to see here folks, just move along.

You should post the other tweet as well. :)

[Painkiller]

so were you smoking bud with Fred Davis and Trent?

I tell you now, if we trade Kerrigan I will flat out ****ing cry.

Edit: Not that I believe that

[KDawg]

Manning will install his own system, make our O-Line look like the hogs, and make Anthony Armstrong the second coming of Marvin Harrison.

Oh yeah. Good point. The Shanahan's do so well with free lancing and love it so much, I can't see why this thought process is in the least bit flawed...

[gchwood]

Oh yeah. Good point. The Shanahan's do so well with free lancing and love it so much, I can't see why this thought process is in the least bit flawed...

My comment was only slightly laced with sarcasm.

[Darkstarr]

I would make the trade for a 3rd or 4th rdr, but would not give up a 1st or 2nd. I would then look to draft blackmon, claiborne or kali with the 1st pick and use the 2nd for a qb to replace manning in 2-3 yrs.

[MLSKINS]

You should post the other tweet as well. :)

I thought it didn't belong here, but if you say so.......


@TKextremeskins TK
RT @TheRock: Seconds from electrifying RAW. Time to feed the beast and make 3 words trend worldwide.. #BootsToAsses

[thebluefood]

Nothing to see here folks, just move along.

There ya go. The entire prospect would be pants on head stupid.

There's absolutely no way we're trading for Peyton Manning

(Cue Hey Arnold/F Troop cut of me posting "I can't believe we traded for Peyton Manning)

[Gator Bait]

Then the Easter Bunny will join the team as kicker.

would likely be an upgrade over Gano

[Crazy Levi]

I don't see this happening.

It would sell tons of jerseys and season tickets, but in the end it would be a disaster, for both the Skins and Manning.

Peyton Manning will have plenty of say in where he gets traded if in fact there is a trade. And there's no good reason he'd want to come here and get mauled behind that O-line while having nobody to throw to.

The Skins still haven't shaken their reputation as a dumping ground for the elderly and infirm. It's going to take another couple offseasons of NOT doing stuff like that to get rid of our rep.

---------- Post added November-15th-2011 at 01:42 PM ----------


I would make the trade for a 3rd or 4th rdr, but would not give up a 1st or 2nd. I would then look to draft blackmon, claiborne or kali with the 1st pick and use the 2nd for a qb to replace manning in 2-3 yrs.

It will take a 1st round pick, and a 2nd, to get Peyton. That's my best guess. Maybe 2 first-rounders.

After all, that's what Carson Palmer just cost the Raiders.

[Darkstarr]

I don't see this happening.

It would sell tons of jerseys and season tickets, but in the end it would be a disaster, for both the Skins and Manning.

Peyton Manning will have plenty of say in where he gets traded if in fact there is a trade. And there's no good reason he'd want to come here and get mauled behind that O-line while having nobody to throw to.

The Skins still haven't shaken their reputation as a dumping ground for the elderly and infirm. It's going to take another couple offseasons of NOT doing stuff like that to get rid of our rep.

---------- Post added November-15th-2011 at 01:42 PM ----------



It will take a 1st round pick, and a 2nd, to get Peyton. That's my best guess. Maybe 2 first-rounders. I guess the question is crazy levi woud u trade a 3rdr for him?

After all, that's what Carson Palmer just cost the Raiders.

If it takes 2 first rdrs then NO!! But because of the contract the colts would owe Manning 26 mil Things might not cost so much.

[elkabong82]

I tell you now, if we trade Kerrigan I will flat out ****ing cry.

Edit: Not that I believe that

we're past the trade deadline and nothing in that guy's post history suggests he has access to inside info

[Rdskns2000]

http://sports.yahoo.com/sportsminute

Yahoo has a story up on the front page about a suitor for Manning if he's traded and per the story Adam Schefter indicated the Redskins would be interested/likely..

Im guessing their is no basis for it, but let me tell you.. if there is truth to this and we decide to go with Manning given his age/neck injuries behind our line then this Allen/Shanahan homer is done being a Allen/Shanahan homer.

It would also make me strongly consider ending my 32 year relationship with the Skins.

Then you weren't a fan.

Almost nothing would stop me being a fan of the Redskins unless the Skins did something horrific like say at what happened at Pedophile St- aka Penn St.

Whatever moves they make, I will live with it and hope for the best.


If the Colts decide to trade him, I could very well see Shanny be interested. I know the old Danny would. I don't see it happening. Peyton would want to be trade to some team that had a shot at contending. Minnesota would be an option.

[RonArtest15]

Vinny Cerrato and Dan Snyder do. If you've been paying attention you know that Mike and Bruce don't.

Trades they've made (excluding McNabb):

Carriker (starting DE), a 5th and a 7th for a 5th and a 7th
Hightower (starting RB) for Vonnie Holliday (800 years old and wouldn't have played) and a late conditional pick
Gaffney (starting WR) for Jarmon (didn't even make the team)
Jammal Brown (starting RT) for a 4th

Not exactly idiotic trade offers.

Unless you think Vinny and Dan are still running things our "history of over-bidding via FA or making idiotic trade offers" is completely irrelevant.

How good has Jammal Brown been? Also, Hightower was disappointing after a strong pre-season. Carriker is solid and Gaffney has been too. Those were good deals. All in all, the McNabb deal TRUMPS anything else they've done. THAT deal is what the Shanny/Bruce era is best known for.

I don't trust Shanny or Bruce ESPECIALLY if Manning is available. You really think that they wouldn't give up multiple picks to bring him in?

[DWil]

Why must we ALWAYS go after some other team's leftovers?!?!?! Granted if the rumor has merit, I don't want to give up any picks for an aging QB coming off a major injury.....PERIOD. Some of you are going ga ga over Peyton mentoring our next young QB. Last time I checked Cam Newton, Andy Dalton, Joe Flacco, Matt Ryan, and Matthew Stafford have been pretty good without the "mentoring" of a HOF QB. I want this franchise to keep or stockpile more draft picks and continue the youth movement with a Barkley, Griffin III or Jones as the centerpiece. JUST SAY NO TO PEYTON !!!!

[tex]

yeah right. broke neck qb behind a line that recently gave up 10 sacks. that makes a lot of sense. Skins need to keep it simple. Draft a stud qb with quick feet and some new big fatties to build a wall in front of him. The new fatties will take time to jell so the new qb better be able to escape, make plays with his feet and not be someone that makes you hold your breath every time he takes a hit. I'm tired of the Redskins fielding players from others teams that have past their prime. It's just a name on the roster to sell tickets. Draft Draft Draft.

HTTR!

[GIBBY!]

IMO it would be in the Colts best interest to trade the Luck pick away to whoever the highest bidder is. They will be given at least 3 number ones for the pick and will be in prime position to help Manning get his 2nd SB trophy. They could also groom another QB in the process behind Manning. It just makes all the sense in the world for them to do this. They arent going to get nearly that much for Manning in trade.

[Crazy Levi]

Of course I'd trade a 3rd-rounder for Peyton Manning.

I'd also pay $20 for a night of kinky sex with Tiger Woods' ex-wife.

neither deals are likely to be put on the table.

[Redzone Offense]

http://sports.yahoo.com/sportsminute

It would also make me strongly consider ending my 32 year relationship with the Skins.


I'm with you on that one!!!!

[Mr.Skinbo]

I tell you now, if we trade Kerrigan I will flat out ****ing cry.

Edit: Not that I believe that
I will be crying with you, please dont let this happen Bruce. We dont need to go from an inadequate QB to a broke QB, just draft someone special, we'll be patient...............I Swear.

[tex]

Good one Levi. That made me laugh.

[RFKFedEx]

Please dear God NOOOOOOO!

We need to draft our own 1st round QB to make into a bust. We've brought in way too many other team's busts of late.

I'd much rather have a player who sucks for the cost of one pick. Forget a mediocre player who cost us a half dozen picks for a guy who was once good.

[elkabong82]

Peyton Manning is the Colts. He likely retires after 2 or 3 more seasons. He will want to make one last Superbowl bid. That would become a good reality IF the Colts trade the 1st overall pick as they'll get a king's ransom. They'll also get future picks likely, meaning they can afford then to wait another draft on finding a QB to groom behind Manning.

If the Skins pick in the top 5, which is a high probability right now, then the Colts wouldn't even move that far down. They'd likely get a high 3rd and 4th for '12 (I think the Skins will try to hold on to the 2nd rounder to get a startable OL), and the '13 1st rounder, all for moving down just a couple spots. I don't think Indy would want to not only pay Peyton $28 million but then also give a lot of money to a QB who will ride the pine. Having that much money tied to 1 position, and having glaring holes on a likely 0-16 team, isn't going to do Peyton any favors, and he's going to want to have a legit shot at 1 more title before he retires.

[NLC1054]

Of course I'd trade a 3rd-rounder for Peyton Manning.

I'd also pay $20 for a night of kinky sex with Tiger Woods' ex-wife.

neither deals are likely to be put on the table.

I lol'd.

[JetSkins]

it is a shame this isn't a real news story. sigh

[authentic]

I heard that this rumor is becoming real, and they are ironing the terms out.

Straight up swap Peyton for Kerrigan and they are ironing out if we include this years 2nd rounder or next years.

:ols:..... Ok, buy guys i'm outta here. I had enough of this thread.. :doh:

[Jeffro]

Then you weren't a fan.

Almost nothing would stop me being a fan of the Redskins unless the Skins did something horrific like say at what happened at Pedophile St- aka Penn St.

Whatever moves they make, I will live with it and hope for the best.


If the Colts decide to trade him, I could very well see Shanny be interested. I know the old Danny would. I don't see it happening. Peyton would want to be trade to some team that had a shot at contending. Minnesota would be an option.

What exactly does this mean? "Then you weren't a fan." I mean, if you are trying to imply that I'm not a fan then thats your opinion. I love this team. I drive 4 hours to their games, spend thousands in season tickets yearly, spend thousands in hotel rooms to spend the night before/after games, work to sell/give away games I cannot attend.

But at some point there has to be a breaking point, and that would be mine. Do I want it to happen? Nope. Do I think it will happen? Nope.

You know, I got to thinking about this the other day. At some point a man can't take anymore.. and I'm not talking about losing, I'd gladly love this team through all their loses. What I'm talking about is the constant state of complete and utter screwing of fans. Let me explain what I mean, When Synder first bought the team he wanted to run it as a business IMO, in the sense that he was willing to buy big names, pay big money, hype expectations as much as possible, hike beer prices, hike food prices, hike ticket prices, allow the ticket office to scalp tickets all in the name of screwing the fans that stood by this team week in and week out.. you know.. the type you are, and the type I am. The ones who support this team no matter what he does. He did that to get butts in the seats which translated to money filling his pockets. He tried that model for 10+ years and I think we can all say its failed completely.

AND FINALLY... FINALLY.. he supposedly saw the harm he had done, he conceded, and stepped out of the picture.. Hires a GM, hires a coach, gives him 5 years. I thought this was the finally the light at the end of the tunnel, and I still believe it is, but to me, going out and getting Manning would be the final straw. Not because we went out and got a player, but because It would be going back to the old ways, printing washed up overpaid athletes on season tickets/commercials to draw a DC crowd that's largely transient in the sense that they come out to a game once a year because friends gave them tickets etc etc. And don't care about the outcome.

We don't need that crap, business men hardly ever understand that the proof is in the pudding, if you want seats filled then put winners on the field. And if you want winners on the field then you must coach, develop and mentor them. You must give them stability, limit drama, give them a stable enviroment. You can't go out and buy a championship, the Eagles had done it right for a lot of years and competed almost every year in the last 10, the one time they go out and try to "buy" it where did that get them? Right in the ****ter with us.

The bottom line is, we may have to suck the next 5 years to build a winning system for the next 15 and that's the way it should be. Continue to draft young talent, give them a coach they can grow with, have stability with, and remove the drama and hype around bringing in washed up has beens.

[NLC1054]

Adam Schefter does not report Redskins interested in Peyton Manning (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/dc-sports-bog/post/adam-schefter-does-not-report-redskins-interested-in-peyton-manning/2011/11/15/gIQAtPzCPN_blog.html)

How about we stop talking about this now?

[redskinss]

Of course I'd trade a 3rd-rounder for Peyton Manning.

I'd also pay $20 for a night of kinky sex with Tiger Woods

neither deals are likely to be put on the table.

There's some good material for the taken out of context thread

[WSHRedskins3ATLBraves3]

How good has Jammal Brown been? Also, Hightower was disappointing after a strong pre-season. Carriker is solid and Gaffney has been too. Those were good deals. All in all, the McNabb deal TRUMPS anything else they've done. THAT deal is what the Shanny/Bruce era is best known for.

I don't trust Shanny or Bruce ESPECIALLY if Manning is available. You really think that they wouldn't give up multiple picks to bring him in?

The point isn't about what they've done once they've gotten here. The point was that we've paid equal or less than what their trade values were at the time of the trade. No dumb moves or overpaying.

And yes I really don't believe they will spend any picks to bring him in.

[U C S D SkinsFan]

Of course I'd trade a 3rd-rounder for Peyton Manning.

I'd also pay $20 for a night of kinky sex with Tiger Woods' ex-wife.

neither deals are likely to be put on the table.

lolllll that was funny!

[skins island connection]

Of course I'd trade a 3rd-rounder for Peyton Manning.

I'd also pay $20 for a night of kinky sex with Tiger Woods' ex-wife.

neither deals are likely to be put on the table.

20 BUCKS?! You couldn't get that for Tiger Woods' maid!
BUT, you'd make one heluva G.M., penny-pincher..lol :silly:

[BleedBNG]

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Ovlxn8QaH3U/TVGlLjzQ6vI/AAAAAAAAARk/2DOCzUfBZic/s320/cartoon+expert.jpg

[RVD]

Aint nuthin but a dream.....

[TK]

I thought it didn't belong here, but if you say so.......
Wrong one.

~sigh~

If you want something done right, ya gotta do it yourself.........


@TKextremeskins
TK
@Jsteelzout2dome @LL56xtremeskins Full retard. ES went there. Camped out. Ended up building a house & staying there. Village coming soon

[mr_neon]

I know that the Colts are well on their way to being 0-16, but something tells me they'd rather trade that first pick to bring in multiple lower 1st round picks to build around Peyton now rather than putting all of their eggs in one basket for Andrew Luck. I could be very, very wrong on this, but I would not doubt if the Colts don't trade that first pick. Would the Redskins bite on this? Well, I think at some point, as a franchise, you have to take some chances and you have to pay the dues to get the guy you need. I think the Redskins would have to bite on it. Even so, I'd say the Colts would still draft a QB in the first round, but would have more picks to fill other needs. So then, they would keep Peyton Manning, and they would have a 1st round QB to groom along with some other high round draft picks to build a future with.

And I don't know all the details to the contract/cap situation with Peyton and the Colts, but I see no way Manning ever gets traded to any team, let alone the Washington Redskins. It's just simply not going to happen. But, I do see it being very possible that the Redskins make some deal with the Colts to move up to get Andrew Luck. The only other team I think that would be in the mix to compete with us would be Miami.

[MLSKINS]

Wrong one.

~sigh~

If you want something done right, ya gotta do it yourself.........
:ols:

[Darkstarr]

Of course I'd trade a 3rd-rounder for Peyton Manning.

I'd also pay $20 for a night of kinky sex with Tiger Woods' ex-wife.

neither deals are likely to be put on the table.

U miss my point, i am asking you what you would be willing to give up. I said i would not give up a 1, but I would give up a 3. If the answer is hell no by the colts so be it. All I am saying is there is a price for everything.

[Spunkush]

the most i would give up for him would be a 4th or 3rd rounder.... manning is 35, has a massive contract, and is coming off a big injury. Now if he can get back to his former form, then hell ya i would be excited, but i wouldnt expect it.

[NLC1054]

For frak's sake, NOTHING ABOUT THIS REPORT IS TRUE. Why are we discussing hypothetical trade scenarios on something that will never, ever happen in a million years?

[TK]

For frak's sake, NOTHING ABOUT THIS REPORT IS TRUE. Why are we discussing hypothetical trade scenarios on something that will never, ever happen in a million years?

Dude, they're populating the Village. :)

[NLC1054]

Dude, they're populating the Village. :)

Well it's time to start handing out condoms and birth control pills before these idiots start to reproduce in earnest...

[Hitman21ST]

Dude, they're populating the Village. :)

Can we be "those who they do not speak of" for this village? The monsters that keep the villagers in line?

:silly:

[HogNose]

Of course I'd trade a 3rd-rounder for Peyton Manning.

I'd also pay $20 for a night of kinky sex with Tiger Woods' ex-wife.

neither deals are likely to be put on the table.

Nice....:ols: That about sums it up.

[herrmag]

Can we be "those who they do not speak of" for this village? The monsters that keep the villagers in line?

:silly:

That's fine, but consider me the blind ***** that's going to get your ass dropped dead into a hole. :mad: :pfft:

But honestly, I find this discussion intriguing and fun. Not sure why people are freaking out about it. Change the title to hypothetical if it makes you feel better.

Anyhow, I still think the only way the Colts ever trade him is if there is potential for him to never take a snap again, and think they can get something in return despite the severity of his injury. That's the only way I see it happening, and that would open up bargaining room for offering less than a 1st. But, with someone previously posting that he'd get paid 28mill in bonus money prior to trading, then that obviously quells the realistic possibility.

[Boss_Hogg]

haha, I like the new title.

[FSUSkins24]

haha, I like the new title.

Haha, that is the only reason I'm on here. Just to give kudos to whoever changed the title.

[Califan007]

haha, I like the new title.

As do I lol :ols: :thumbsup:

[authentic]

How about we stop talking about this now?

the worse part about it, is that folks will still continue to entertain this nonsense.. SMH

[Jumbo]

the worse part about it, is that folks will still continue to entertain this nonsense.. SMH

There's been similar stupid in the tailgate forum lately too, so ain't just football woes that's clouding the minds of some posters. Or maybe it is...:pfft: :ols:

[Destructis]

LMFAO I love the title change.

KUDOS!!!!!

[Rufus T Firefly]

the worse part about it, is that folks will still continue to entertain this nonsense.. SMH

I generally try to at least scan a whole thread before I post in it. Often I will make a point of indicating that I haven't done so otherwise.

What's annoying is that someone can post something crazy, it can be immediately pointed why said idea is nonsense, yet we get page after page of people still responding to the OP as if it is perfectly valid. That's why we have to wait for a mod to do to the title what TK did here.

[authentic]

. That's why we have to wait for a mod to do to the title what TK did here.

As you said that, i think it would be a good idea that they consider doing so going forward.

---------- Post added November-15th-2011 at 06:04 PM ----------


There's been similar stupid in the tailgate forum lately too, so ain't just football woes that's clouding the minds of some posters. Or maybe it is...:pfft: :ols:

great!!, 2 threads full of Tom Foolery...

[NewCliche21]

I completely missed today as I was in a conference, including a working lunch, all day.

I can't believe what I just read in terms of fans believing it.

Actually, I can. WTF, guys?

[skins island connection]

:
For frak's sake, NOTHING ABOUT THIS REPORT IS TRUE. Why are we discussing hypothetical trade scenarios on something that will never, ever happen in a million years?

Suiuuuuure, its not true..:secret:
And I suppose Elvis Presley isn't a dishwasher at the IHOP in Newport News...

[Hitman21ST]

:

Suiuuuuure, its not true..:secret:
And I suppose Elvis Presley isn't a dishwasher at the IHOP in Newport News...

:secret:

It's at the IHOP in Chesapeake. Get it right.

[NLC1054]

:

Suiuuuuure, its not true..:secret:
And I suppose Elvis Presley isn't a dishwasher at the IHOP in Newport News...

If Elvis was REALLY working at IHOP, he never would've taken Pigs in a Blanket off the menu!

[WilberMarshall]

Kudos to whomever changed the title of the thread...

[mi6]

This would be insane!

[SirClintonPortis]

This is what happens when information is over-condensed.

[LadySkinsFan]

This thread title made me laugh!! I hope like heck that we don't do this. But thanks for the insomnia laugh!

[holmester]

Could this be Mike Shanahans way of calling BS on Jim Irsay and his quote that Manning gave the OK on drafting another QB? Why not stir the pot a little bit, try and get a response out of Manning, and see where it goes.

Irsay is trying to increase the value of the 1st pick for a trade. MS is attempting to devalue it/ignite some tension by having the top reporter in the NFL put out that we would take Manning off the Colts hand if they "don't want him".

This is all super hypothecial, but its fun to make it look like our FO knows what they are doing and have a plan. :(

[ADF]

What bothered me most about this thread is that there are people who thought this would be a great idea. It simply would not make sense for a team in our situation.

[Toe Jam]

What bothered me most about this thread is that there are people who thought this would be a great idea. It simply would not make sense for a team in our situation.

Absolutely.

It would only make sense if we were one piece away from a championship caliber team. We are not. Common sense.

[VCDefectors]

Nobody in their right mind is going to trade for Peyton, not with that huge contract he just signed and not with that injury he has. If the Colts end up drafting Luck (they'd be fools not to if they are sitting there with the first pick), I think you are more likely to see the Colts release Manning and take the dead money hit. They could always go out and pick up a vet scrub for minimum. The Colts are going to suck for a while. They should take the hit now and rebuild for the future.

[70th Week]

wouldn't it be funny if the Colts cut Peyton before the end of the season (so he won't get that 28 mil) and then Luck says he isn't playing for the Colts/ goes back to school, lol....

[TD_washingtonredskins]

wouldn't it be funny if the Colts cut Peyton before the end of the season (so he won't get that 28 mil) and then Luck says he isn't playing for the Colts/ goes back to school, lol....

Not THAT big a deal really. The Colts aren't going to be a good team for a couple more years in my opinion. I seriously doubt they were more than a 6-8 win team this year even with Manning. So, if that scenario happened, they could still select the QB of their choice and start building again (like they have to do anyway). They'd just be doing it with Barkley or Jones instead of Luck.

[herrmag]

What bothered me most about this thread is that there are people who thought this would be a great idea. It simply would not make sense for a team in our situation.

To be fair, most coupled the idea of acquiring Manning while still drafting a QB next year, and under the constraint of NO 1st rounder for Peyton. No chance this could happen, which is why I don't think the participants of this thread took it half as seriously as the people bashing the thread. Maybe I didn't read enough of the pages, but I don't recall many saying WE MUST DO THIS and sell the farm to make it happen.

[Redskins4ever]

I have tremendous respect for what Peyton Manning has done in the NFL, but he's not a west coast quarterback. It would be a bad fit. Can you imagine Mike Shanahan trying to change Manning''s mechanics the same way he tried with McNabb? A long time veteran is stuck in their ways. Manning, like McNabb, will do what comes natural to him. This would be another debacle waiting to happen.

[mr_neon]

What bothered me most about this thread is that there are people who thought this would be a great idea. It simply would not make sense for a team in our situation.

If there were, they were very few and far between. Most of us who commented on this thread either disagreed with the idea out right, or said they'd go along with the idea based on certain criteria that would have to be met. I don't believe people are idiots for speculating on trade rumors of Peyton Manning as what the thread title was changed to. I think giving the situation the Indy could possibly be in, and considering that our 'skins haven't given us a lot of great things to talk about, it certainly is something worth discussing. Most of us are pretty level headed with it though.