The ES Positivity thread

[RichmondRedskin88]

So with the mood really low around here right now I figured it might be a good thread.

Positives
- We are almost certain to get a top 10 pick to find our QB
- The Eagles suck too. LOL dream team
-Its Dallas week
-One day we'll look back on these years and laugh

[new 86 fan]

I like your thinking. *Cheers*

[Rdskn4Lyf21]

There's only 7 more games of this season.

My college football and hockey teams are doing pretty good.

Anthony Mix is still pretty tall.

[LaRonDontLikeUgly]

We have a young stud on defense with 5 sacks and 4 FFs who could easily double those numbers by season's end.

[daveakl]

Gabbert is going to be a bust.
We are going to be better for taking a qb this draft then last.
We have a real coach AND gm.

[authentic]

OP you should know dog'on well that "Positive" and "ES" don't go together...

---------- Post added November-16th-2011 at 07:55 PM ----------



-One day we'll look back on these years and laugh

Hopefully its during the divisional round of next year's playoffs.

[STBonecrusher21]

Our color scheme is still top 5 in the league!

[Braxford]

The Skins still have won 3 Super Bowls ( with hopefully more on in the future while we are all still alive and coherent enough to enjoy them) which is better than philly and many other teams zero Super Bowls....:)

[Jumbo]

We have a thread with "positivity" in the title on the front page! :pfft:

My serious contributions (agreeing with others already stated and not wanting to repeat them):

Dan has continued his withdrawal from the "hands-on" role.
Vinny is no longer part of the equation.
The team culture is changing for the better.

[brandymac27]

Our color scheme is still top 5 in the league!

Hell yes! And I look damn good in B&G if I do say so myself :D

---------- Post added November-16th-2011 at 08:17 PM ----------


The Skins still have won 3 Super Bowls ( with hopefully more on in the future while we are all still alive and coherent enough to enjoy them) which is better than philly and many other teams zero Super Bowls....:)

This is the truth. Our trophy case could be empty. Plus, Santana might be able to get back on the field soon too :D

[MLSKINS]

- It looks like we have three monsters in the making from this years draft
- We have all our picks plus a couple of more in next year's draft
- We finally have someone who knows how to draft
- We lost five straight games and our locker room is still strong!!!!!

[terrifNick21]

Beat the Giants for the first time in for forever it seems.

[DC9]

Perry Riley looks like he's going to be a beast. He played within the scheme and made tackles.... not much more you could ask from an ILB, and in his first game, no less. He will only get better.

Our players from this past draft and the previous draft are starting to show up, no reason to suspect that we won't have another good draft with 9 picks this year.

People forget, we addressed defense last year (for the most part), and this season we'll address offense. Patience is still the key.

Don't forget, we still have a pretty good DE on IR who has only played in 2 preseason games.... this defense will only get better (Jarvis Jenkins).


HAIL!

[MLSKINS]

Beat the Giants for the first time in for forever it seems.

- I am positive that I don't like terrifNick21's sig.

RG3!!!!! :ninja:

[NLC1054]

Our color scheme is still top 5 in the league!

Seriously, how many teams have as many snazzy uniform combinations as we do?

http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/gallery_images/photos/001/165/108/132687646_crop_450x500.jpg?1321237978

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http://static.nfl.com/static/content/public/image/getty/2009/09000d5d814646c8_gallery_600.jpg

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1169/1431157932_187711c3ed_z.jpg

We be fly, yo.

[terrifNick21]

- I am positive that I don't like terrifNick21's sig.

RG3!!!!! :ninja:

I am positive I'll be happy with either, but just going by what my gut is telling me. :thumbsup:

[MLSKINS]

I am positive I'll be happy with either, but just going by what my gut is telling me. :thumbsup:

Yeah I am just goofin' around. But I am positive that one way or another a new QB with some exceptional talent will be on the roster in 2012.....

And it won't be Manning :no:

[Wyndorf25]

Kerrigan. Dude can play.

[Goingforburgundy]

We have lots of picks this upcoming year.

[ACW]

We have a legit punter.
Gano has the longest FG in team history.
Our cheerleaders still :drool:
http://www.redskins.com/assets/images/Custom%20Promos/650x402_cheerleaders_captains.gif

[DM72]

Kerrigan looks like the real deal.

[Cliffmark1]

we are getting younger

[issapunk]

For the first time in forever there seems to be a light at the end of the tunnel even during this depressing season. A couple moves on offense and we are instantly much better.

[BleedBNG]

Media still hates us :D

[Gibbs Hog Heaven]

We're lead by a two time SB winning, first ballet HoF headed HC with a plan who'll make a heck of a lot of people, fans and mediots alike; eat a heck of a lot of crow when he's through in DC.

Hail.

[Tarantula]

RAK and Kerrigan will be elite OLBs.
Jarvis Jenkins will be back in 2012.
Hankerson has done more than Thomas and Kelly combined.

[tibbidoe]

Week by week, I continue to love my Redskins. Whether we win or lose, that never changes.

Hopefully though, we start winning soon, 'cause this losing **** is slowly killing me.

haha

HTTR

[MartinC]

Defense is significantly better in year 2 compared to year 1 of the switch to a 3-4 after an offseason which focused on restocking the defensive front 7. I expect this offseason to focus on restocking the offensive line and addressing the QB position and a similar improvement in the offense next season.

I think we are still two years away from being a really good team if stick with the course we are on. Do we as fans and more importantly Dan as the owner have the patience to wait this out?

That and the cheerleaders ......

[HogNose]

I haven't seen Danny in a long time and have started to forget what he looks like.

We are actually rebuilding for the first time in 20 years.

We have three of these to reminisce about and Philly doesn't.

http://dcprosportsreport.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/super-bowl-trophies.jpg

[Skinzaddict1983]

Our D is better than it was, and will be even better when they aren't on the field 40 out of 60 minutes because our offense is no longer going 3 and out or 5 and out! They will be rested and in true attack mode!

[The Rook]

Being a Redskins' fan DOES prepare one for life!

We do have the best blog.







:helmet: The Rook

[RFKFedEx]

I'm pretty sure we have a full draft class in April. We're in good shape with the cap.

This franchise is finally ready to move forward after two years of radiation clean up following the Vinny/Danny reactor meltdown.

[mjpanzer]

Just because we may not contend next year, doesn't mean it won't be a fun year to be a fan.

Ask any Carolina fan how they feel about this season, and they all glow thanks to their shiny new toy Cam Newton.

It will be a joy to watch our handpicked QB of the future play a year regardless of the record.

[RichmondRedskin88]

Hankerson is gonna be a beast one day with another playmaker WR across from him.

[Gibbs Hog Heaven]

We aren't the Evil Empire down South. No matter how bad things get, praise the Lord we aren't 'them.'

Hail.

[CapnRedskins]

Next year we'll have a solid RBcorp with Helu, Hightower, and a third RB in either Torain or a promoted Evan Royster.

Leonard Hankerson has potential to be that true #1 receiver we haven't had since....I dunno...maybe Moss in 2005. Either that or we're going all the way back to Monk.

Orakpo and Kerrigan are BEASTS and there is simply no way teams will be able to block both men in the coming years especially with a healthy Jenkins clogging up the middle.

We actually have a very good defense, they just spend WAY too much time on the field. With even a mediocre offense we could be an above .500 football team right now.

We WILL have a real quarterback next year. Seriously, if they make no other moves in the offseason, that move alone could be enough to get excited pending on who we get.

Our team is younger than its been in years

We have draft picks for next year.

and most importantly, I haven't seen Snyder on TV all season.

[gortiz]

skins will win 5 out or their remaining 7 games, book it!

8-8 will feel great going into next season with Tim, Leonard, and a fresh QB to take the reins.

[SkinsHomer]

skins will win 5 out or their remaining 7 games, book it!

8-8 will feel great going into next season with Tim, Leonard, and a fresh QB to take the reins.

Crazy thread is down the hall, bro :insane:

Kiddin, bro. I like your...optimism.

We're rebuilding, the right way. We have a real coach, a real GM, and developing young talent. We're on the upswing. "Just keep swimming...just keep swimming..."

[CapnRedskins]

Being a Redskins' fan DOES prepare one for life!

We do have the best blog.







:helmet: The Rook

Good point. We understand struggles, ups and downs, and the value of patience. We also know what it's like to earn things and not have it all handed to us.

[gchwood]

-One day we'll look back on these years and laugh

Do any of us laugh at the Richie Pettibone year? I don't!

[CapnRedskins]

Do any of us laugh at the Richie Pettibone year? I don't!

Possibly because we still have not fully recovered from that. That year led to Norv Turner, then Snyder took over, and then....well you know the story.

[gchwood]

Possibly because we still have not fully recovered from that. That year led to Norv Turner, then Snyder took over, and then....well you know the story.

And I have yet to cease crying.

[bedlamVR]

Given the mood in the stadium I think this needs bumping -

Look loosing is always disappointing especially the way we lost yesterday but what is more disappointing is the response by the vast majority the fans on the message board .

The Steelers were just a horrendous match up for us - the speed they have at WR and their defense was always going to crush our running style - their front three could clog the middle and they have the best all round 3-4 outside line backers in the business and one of the best defensive coordinators that has ever lived .. I am not making excuses but that is what it is . Ben Rothlesburger may be a sex offender but he is also one hell of a QB and he was going to exploit our secondary woes which in turn was always going to open up their run game .

Most of all they executed - we didn't whether is special teams foul ups, missed assignments in the running game, blown coverages, missed tackles on the line or by the linebackers or the most obvious dropped catches . It is hard to get momentum when this is happening - it is even harder when the other team is playing so well .

We lost - get over it - RGIII had a poor game but he didn't get hurt and he didn't turn the ball over . He was not helped by anyone, even WRs and guys with normally reliable hands * the one guy i was astonished by was Paul making a play from the TE position* . Morris got bottled up but we got pushed away from the run game when the Steelers opened up the huge lead and showed they could stop our stretch zone running attack . Again he did not put the ball on the floor and again he comes away relatively unscathed *although i did love his display of strength pulling defenders as he made his gains*.

We are 3-5 we could well be 4-5 going into the bye - Steve Smith is going to give us fits - but Carolina is beatable - then the end of the season suddenly looks a lot less daunting than the games we have already played . The Cowboys - although they looked good coming back looked terrible to get into the hole in the first place - and the Eagles looked worse coming off the bye and there are going to be fingers pointing as Reid seems to be slowly loosing the team - the scary teams we have coming up are the Ravens and the GMen - and the way both those teams have played recently - not as scary as the Falcons, Vikings, and Steelers who we have already played .

This team needs self belief - not arrogance but belief . With out it we will tumble again but lets look at the positive parts of what we have

Going into the Steelers game we had the number 1 running back in the NFL and the no 6 runner in Griffin - both have fallen in the rankings but one game does not take away their achievements . We have a top 5 offense - when at this point in the season have we been able to say that . We also ARE still in the mix in the fight for the playoffs . We still might not get there but don't give up hope .

So lets GO REDSKINS !!

[LetThePointsSoar]

Said it before, I'll say it again. ES is PAINFUL after a loss. Nice bump bedlam, summed up many of my thoughts exactly. The damn sky isn't falling. We lost to a good team. We're still who I personally expected us to be. A young team trying to find their identity, who will flash signs of greatness one week & get exposed in another. We're still progressing forward, and that's what is important.

Hail.

[Murphs56]

Said it before, I'll say it again. ES is PAINFUL after a loss. Nice bump bedlam, summed up many of my thoughts exactly. The damn sky isn't falling. We lost to a good team. We're still who I personally expected us to be. A young team trying to find their identity, who will flash signs of greatness one week & get exposed in another. We're still progressing forward, and that's what is important.

Hail.

our defense isn't progressing forward. It's progressing backward. But I blame the injuries for that. Our safeties are certainly not who we expected them to be and missing Orakpo is CLEARLY a huge loss. I just find it unfortunate that there is so much pressure on Griffin to perform based on how badly the defense has played. As mediocre as he played on Sunday, (receivers didn't help) sometimes a performance like that is good enough for someone like a Jay Cutler to win lol

[braindx]

The good:

RG3
Morris
Forbath

Can't find much else to get excited about at the moment, but at least these are 3 of the essential positions on the team. QB and FG kicker especially.

[Long n Left]

Great bump.

Was on ES last night and the mood made me leave...quickly and in disgust.

Yeah, the defense sucks! We ALL know that, and finally the local media is pointing fingers. It may get better with some shake up, but this defense is going to be a weakness for the rest of the year for the rest of the year. Deal with it!

Every NFL team has bad games, especially against good teams. Pittsburgh is a solid team. The Redskins didn't play well and lost, on the road, in crappy weather to a well coached team. It happens.

Let us not forget though, that this Redskins team had been ahead in the fourth quarter of EVERY game this year aside form yesterday's and the Bengals game, where they were tied in the fourth quarter. This team has played with its #1 WR in good health all of ONE QUARTER of one game. One of this teams 2 or 3 best defensive players is gone for the year, along with starting DE and BOTH starting safeties...and they are still in every game. Hell, if our receivers hadn't left their hands in DC, and the referees could get their collective heads outta their rears, this game would have been closer.

So, just STOP with the "Shanny has to go," "Kyle has no clue," "this team won't win another game," crap, and enjoy what is an exciting rebuilding team that can win ANY game left on their schedule.

The cap penalties and injuries/suspensions have set this team back, but they are performing every week, and giving us fans a chance to cheer at the top of our lungs again for the first time in years. Get over it and get with it, or get gone!

There's my rant. Thanks, and HTTR!

[Mr. Sinister]

I've changed this season. I'm tired of constantly being pessimistic and miserable about this team. We went up against a great team with a great gameplan, with our terrible defense, and defensive coaching staff, and we couldn't stop them, as I expected. No surprises there. I guess you could say 35 (seemingly) drops on offense was unexpected, but as well as the offense had been playing (with a rookie qb at the helm) you knew it was only a matter of time before we had a bad game offensively. I honestly thought we were due for a bad performance last week.

[pjfootballer]

Just win and the negativity will stop. That's all I have for this thread.

[Bang]

There is no positive about the defense.


Offensively, our young offense got handled by the Dick LeBeau coached Pittsburgh Steelers defense in the rain on their field.

I am not going to look into it much further than that. They're a good team, he's a hall of fame coach who has been scheming against rookie QBs since RG3's dad was a baby.
We had opportunities and missed them, and in that i see positives. RG3 wasn't confused and frustrated by them, he wasn't overwhelmed by their schemes.
Their veteran respected defense played well against our young mostly inexperienced offense, as could be expected. (Dropped passes helped them along considerably, but give them their due.)
Unfortunately, when their offense can hold the ball all day and move it at will, it's a tall order to ask to our offense to cover.

~Bang

[Lombardi's_kid_brother]

This is what I will never completely understand.

The three receivers on the Steelers who killed us yesterday?

Antonio Brown - 26 - third year in the league. 6th Round pick. One Pro Bowl.
Mike Wallace - 26 - fourth year in the league. 2rd Round pick. One Pro Bowl.
Emanuel Sanders - 25 - third year in the league. 3rd Round pick.

How did they build this receiving group while competing for Super Bowls? We never build a unit where you say, "Whoa!" and we stink every year. The closest we ever came was the secondary when Taylor and Landry and Rogers were young...and to do that we had to keep using top ten picks.

[Bang]

This is what I will never completely understand.

The three receivers on the Steelers who killed us yesterday?

Antonio Brown - 26 - third year in the league. 6th Round pick. One Pro Bowl.
Mike Wallace - 26 - fourth year in the league. 2rd Round pick. One Pro Bowl.
Emanuel Sanders - 25 - third year in the league. 3rd Round pick.

How did they build this receiving group while competing for Super Bowls? We never build a unit where you say, "Whoa!" and we stink every year. The closest we ever came was the secondary when Taylor and Landry and Rogers were young...and to do that we had to keep using top ten picks.

I would suggest continuity of scheme.. they've been doing the same thing for a while now and can target and draft players to go with things they already know are working. They already know what Ben can do,and so finding him complimentary receivers is that much easier.

~Bang

[eparks11]

Said it before, I'll say it again. ES is PAINFUL after a loss. Nice bump bedlam, summed up many of my thoughts exactly. The damn sky isn't falling. We lost to a good team. We're still who I personally expected us to be. A young team trying to find their identity, who will flash signs of greatness one week & get exposed in another. We're still progressing forward, and that's what is important.

Hail.

+1

But, in our defense, fans of every team are the same after a loss. It seems in fans minds their teams should never lose a game under any circumstances, even if you're playing in Pittsburg with a rookie QB, rookie RB, average O-Line, and missing 5 starters.

[HailToTheRedskins14]

This is what I will never completely understand.

The three receivers on the Steelers who killed us yesterday?

Antonio Brown - 26 - third year in the league. 6th Round pick. One Pro Bowl.
Mike Wallace - 26 - fourth year in the league. 2rd Round pick. One Pro Bowl.
Emanuel Sanders - 25 - third year in the league. 3rd Round pick.

How did they build this receiving group while competing for Super Bowls? We never build a unit where you say, "Whoa!" and we stink every year. The closest we ever came was the secondary when Taylor and Landry and Rogers were young...and to do that we had to keep using top ten picks.

They built that great WR group by having a franchise QB. We are getting there. At least now we don't have to go into the draft deciding between a QB and any other position of need,

I think people are way overreacting. Before the season, Pitt was supposed to beat us at home. And realistically, going into the game they were supposed to beat us. This was a game that would've been great to win but only us homers would bet money on a Skins victory. Sometimes you just aren't good enough. let's move on and get it on track next week.

[Lombardi's_kid_brother]

I would suggest continuity of scheme.. they've been doing the same thing for a while now and can target and draft players to go with things they already know are working. They already know what Ben can do,and so finding him complimentary receivers is that much easier.

~Bang

They completely overhauled their offense this year after letting Arians go and getting Haley. They were a vertical attack and now they are more horizontal.

[JoeSkins]

There is no positive about the defense.


Offensively, our young offense got handled by the Dick LeBeau coached Pittsburgh Steelers defense in the rain on their field.

I am not going to look into it much further than that. They're a good team, he's a hall of fame coach who has been scheming against rookie QBs since RG3's dad was a baby.
We had opportunities and missed them, and in that i see positives. RG3 wasn't confused and frustrated by them, he wasn't overwhelmed by their schemes.
Their veteran respected defense played well against our young mostly inexperienced offense, as could be expected. (Dropped passes helped them along considerably, but give them their due.)

I think we split a little here. The offensive gameplan was solid. Griffin had time to throw, the Redskin wideouts were getting open, and Griffin put it on the money. A record number of drops is just one of those insurmountable aberrations. LeBeau's plan seemed to work better than it did if you look at the statistics, but the eyeball test says otherwise. The complexion of the game changes dramatically if only half those drops are caught. LeBeau shouldn't get credit for wide open receivers getting hit in the hands and dropping the pass because those guys still beat his scheme. The Steelers only got one sack and no interceptions, implying a lack of pressure imposed by the Steelers. Yesterday's loss was, more than any game this year, including the kicking fiascos, simply a matter of bad luck.

[bowhunter]

They built that great WR group by having a franchise QB. We are getting there. At least now we don't have to go into the draft deciding between a QB and any other position of need,

I think people are way overreacting. Before the season, Pitt was supposed to beat us at home. And realistically, going into the game they were supposed to beat us. This was a game that would've been great to win but only us homers would bet money on a Skins victory. Sometimes you just aren't good enough. let's move on and get it on track next week.

There are "losses" and then there are "humiliating losses" Last night was of the 2nd type. Please Mr. Hazlett, swallow your pride and give Brandyn Thompson a call. Perhaps you were wrong.

*oops, I forgot that this was the Positivity thread. Forbath did well.

[Bang]

They completely overhauled their offense this year after letting Arians go and getting Haley. They were a vertical attack and now they are more horizontal.

I get that, maybe what i mean is continuity of player.. when you have a franchise QB, you know what he can do and can build to it.. rather than vice versa.

~Bang

[Boss_Hogg]

RGIII has done amazing things and guess what, he's a ROOKIE! If that's not positive to some of you then Idono what is.

---------- Post added October-29th-2012 at 11:22 AM ----------


The good:

RG3
Morris
Forbath

Can't find much else to get excited about at the moment, but at least these are 3 of the essential positions on the team. QB and FG kicker especially.

Trent Williams has been balling this year.

[Igor]

Everyone please step back from the edge! JoeSkins has a valid point about the offence. A catch here and their would make a big difference. Running game had some moments against stout run defence.Shanny said this would take 5 years and as others have said we are only half way there. We have a top tier Qb,left tackle(if he stays focused),solid runner and ol and wr depth.We need speed on offense! Defense needs are pass rush and secondary everyone sees that. We need to stay with the plan and let our young players improve. Steelers had to use Ryan Mundy to fill in for Ryan Clark(who no one wanted when he was a skin) Mundy was a 6 round pick who hung around since 08 draft. Skins are getting more talent, might have even found a kicker .In closing love Bruce Allen keeping Phil Daniels to mentor rookies and hope London can find a spot as mentor or coach.Httr

[Bang]

I think we split a little here. The offensive gameplan was solid. Griffin had time to throw, the Redskin wideouts were getting open, and Griffin put it on the money. A record number of drops is just one of those insurmountable aberrations. LeBeau's plan seemed to work better than it did if you look at the statistics, but the eyeball test says otherwise. The complexion of the game changes dramatically if only half those drops are caught. LeBeau shouldn't get credit for wide open receivers getting hit in the hands and dropping the pass because those guys still beat his scheme. The Steelers only got one sack and no interceptions, implying a lack of pressure imposed by the Steelers. Yesterday's loss was, more than any game this year, including the kicking fiascos, simply a matter of bad luck.

totally agree.. the drops were maddening, especially off of Santana Moss,, I don't get what happened to him. Many of the balls hit them dead in the hands... I thought Griffin's passing was a little off.. more off than i've seen it this year (And in that I mean some balls were a bit behind his receivers.. but STILL catchable.

yesterday's loss, IMO, was completely on the defense. There was no time in the game in which I thought they stopped anything. The Steelers only punted twice to my recollection, and I think they took their foot off the gas in the fourth quarter.
Everything Roethlisberger did worked.

~Bang

[JoeSkins]

totally agree.. the drops were maddening, especially off of Santana Moss,, I don't get what happened to him. Many of the balls hit them dead in the hands... I thought Griffin's passing was a little off.. more off than i've seen it this year (And in that I mean some balls were a bit behind his receivers.. but STILL catchable.

yesterday's loss, IMO, was completely on the defense. There was no time in the game in which I thought they stopped anything. The Steelers only punted twice to my recollection, and I think they took their foot off the gas in the fourth quarter.
Everything Roethlisberger did worked.

~Bang

Yeah, actually, after considering it a bit more, you're right. It was bad luck on offense, but the defense was outcoached, outplayed, and outmatched. I suppose there isn't any shame in giving up 27 to Big Ben at home, all things considered. It's quite frustrating though.

[thesubmittedone]

^^Yeah, the defense was depressing to watch. I think the Steelers literally had no negative plays the entire game. Maybe one... but, other than that, they gained 4-5 yards whenever they wanted. If they so chose, they could've just took 4 yards a play every single time like it was nothing, but their receivers were getting some good YAC anyway.

But, overall, that kind of game would've lead to a 45-3 kind of blow out before. It's nice to know that this team still some how managed to make it a game with 5 minutes left in the 4th Quarter. I don't care what anyone says, this team is different than in year's past and getting better. We have some massive holes but at last they're easily identifiable and not all over the place. We can actually go hard next offseason to fix them and not have to worry about other holes just popping up because of age like before.

[ldysknzfn1]

totally agree.. the drops were maddening, especially off of Santana Moss,, I don't get what happened to him. Many of the balls hit them dead in the hands... I thought Griffin's passing was a little off.. more off than i've seen it this year (And in that I mean some balls were a bit behind his receivers.. but STILL catchable.

yesterday's loss, IMO, was completely on the defense. There was no time in the game in which I thought they stopped anything. The Steelers only punted twice to my recollection, and I think they took their foot off the gas in the fourth quarter.
Everything Roethlisberger did worked.

~Bang

Totally agree w/this....I watched this game w/3 Steeler fans and I made sure they knew that their team wasn't as good as we made them look...they were like "what? what are you talkin about? We're beating you like drums" I rolled my eyes and said, "if we had caught just half of those dropped passes, that game would've been different and if you were as good as we made you look you wouldn't be 3-3" Our defense couldn't stop anything...wasn't their prolific play it was our prolific suckyness...period..I made sure they knew that..lol

[wholee]

I thank you for bumping this. It's hard, especially after getting your teeth kicked in, but we must remain positive. I'll admit that I hoped but did not have real expectations to make the playoffs in the preseason. However, it's not over and we must continue to fight. We have some very winnable games ahead. HTTR!

[Gibbs Hog Heaven]

I'm positive we'll be playing in a SB before the decade is out.

Hail.

[elkabong82]

RG3 is the man, so is Morris, OL looks better, and we may have finally found our kicker.

[SkinsGuy]

Nice bump of this thread.

It was depressing and disappointing coming here yesterday and seeing some of the absolute nonsense on this board (like this):

"....this is the worst team in football..."

"....RG3 is the only good player on this team... we are 0-8 without him...."

".....Shanahan needs to go... we are no better than we were 3 years ago..."


<sigh> :doh:

I can understand folks being unhappy after a game, but examples like I gave above are just ridiculous.

There's no doubt our defense (especially the secondary) is playing poorly, but the offense has made huge strides. However, it isn't there yet. We are playing young guys at a lot of positions, mainly at QB and RB.

So when the offense has an off day (and we knew these young players would), we were in trouble with no defense to pick up the slack.

We'll have more games like this when the offense has an off day and it will give us problems. However, this team is headed in the right direction

Defense will be the focus of next year's draft and free agency (like offense was this year). Hopefully, a new defensive coach will show up with them. :)

[ldysknzfn1]

Nice bump of this thread.

It was depressing and disappointing coming here yesterday and seeing some of the absolute nonsense on this board (like this):

"....this is the worst team in football..."

"....RG3 is the only good player on this team... we are 0-8 without him...."

".....Shanahan needs to go... we are no better than we were 3 years ago..."


<sigh> :doh:

I can understand folks being unhappy after a game, but examples like I gave above are just ridiculous.

There's no doubt our defense (especially the secondary) is playing poorly, but the offense has made huge strides. However, it isn't there yet. We are playing young guys at a lot of positions, mainly at QB and RB.

So when the offense has an off day (and we knew these young players would), we were in trouble with no defense to pick up the slack.

We'll have more games like this when the offense has an off day and it will give us problems. However, this team is headed in the right direction

Defense will be the focus of next year's draft and free agency (like offense was this year). Hopefully, a new defensive coach will show up with them. :)

Good post...nicely done and I agree and co-sign it...

[skinny21]

So... I'm a skeptic, as in I question everything. But here's my(poor) attempt at positivity.

I know he's just one guy, but I'm looking forward to getting Merriweather back (Garcon too, if he gets healthy). If he could have a hand in stopping one drive per game, he'd be a serious improvement. Its funny to bring it up after the steelers game, but we've been within one score every other game. A third down here, a big play there - anything positive that Merriweather brings could be huge for us. It's a bit of a stretch, but there's a reasonable chance that one additional stop each game drops the ppg to 24 (or less).

On the flip side, the dude's going to take time to recover as well as time to assimilate. IF he plays like I think he can, maybe we claw our way up to 31st in the league. .

We have a pretty good sample size to say this a very good offense. Pittsburgh was brutal, and showed this team is still inconsistent in all areas (except consistently porous on defense of course). Losing Davis hurts, though perhaps Paulsen (and Garçon) can alleviate the pain. Our wide receivers aren't anything special, though they've had some moments. Almost certainly still a top 10 offense, possibly even top 5. I'm cautiously optimistic for the rest of the year since the slightest improvement (on defense especially... getting down to 24 ppg, for example) could make a big difference. I don't really believe it will happen, lol, but I'm hopeful since it's at least possible that improvement does occur.

One thing I know for sure, the team is not as bad as they played Sunday.


Got a couple of questions (as if this post hasn't droned on long enough):

What's the story with Crawford? I know Griffin is back, but still... since Crawford gave up that td to Hawkins (vs the Bengals), I haven't noticed him.

I kinda like deferring the toss (in a general sense), but not with a run oriented offense and porous defense. Isn't it better to not risk going down a couple scores early?