View Full Version : So what happens when your draft crush is drafted by someone else?
NewCliche21
December-9th-2011, 08:34 AM
I've never been into college ball. I don't have the time or emotional capacity. I do, however, see that most of you do, and I've asked before what you'd do if someone from your favorite team was drafted by, say, the Cowboys. Do you pull for your alma mater or for your player to do well, even against us? The resounding answer was **** Dallas, which is always the right answer to any question, even if not the one I was asking.
I'm wondering, though, with the ultra-serious draft crushes this year, what will you do when your quarterback goes somewhere else? I want RGIII more than I want my wife to, well, you know, but I also like Tannehill. There's, for some reason, a lot of people who haven't watched Barkley or Jones play and really want them on the team (:pfft:), but some of us are going to be disappointed.
What will you do when your quarterback ends up somewhere else?
Because I have no real attachment other than up until draft day (I don't go to Baylor or A&M or any other school, as UMBC and UMB weren't known for their football teams), I won't really care come kick of 2012. However, for those of you who have been following these kids since Pop Warner, how will you feel?
SkinsHokieFan
December-9th-2011, 08:36 AM
Once they leave Blacksburg, I am able to quickly forget about them.
Loved Michael Vick in college. Could care less about him now. He is an Eagle. Ditto Darryl Tapp
Kam Chancellor in Seattle? I was hoping we would burn him all game. Josh Morgan in SF? Keep him to 0 catches
Even with guys like D-Hall, Pierson Prealiu, I think of them more as Redskins then Hokies
AKM311
December-9th-2011, 08:41 AM
I don't have player crushes until they are Skins.
RG3 is the first player I can remember I am drooling for before they are a Skin.
Madison Redskin
December-9th-2011, 08:42 AM
Over the past few years, I developed draft-crushes on S Michael Boulware, MLB Patrick Willis, RB Jahvid Best, DT Amobe Okoye, OLB Von Miller, and RB Dion Lewis. I follow them a bit more closely than other players who don't wear the B&G, but I don't root for them or anything.
PlayAction
December-9th-2011, 08:48 AM
Happens all the time. We can all argue about the first round picks but it's more frustrating with the 2-4 round picks that really do well for another team. "We could have had this guy instead of another Vinny bust". Of course you do get to come on the board for years and tell everyone how if only the Skins had listened to you............
zskins
December-9th-2011, 08:51 AM
I am glad UMBC didn't have a football team. I can be stress free up until draft day and have no attachment to any players. :)
pjfootballer
December-9th-2011, 08:53 AM
Once they leave Blacksburg, I am able to quickly forget about them.
Loved Michael Vick in college. Could care less about him now. He is an Eagle. Ditto Darryl Tapp
Kam Chancellor in Seattle? I was hoping we would burn him all game. Josh Morgan in SF? Keep him to 0 catches
Even with guys like D-Hall, Pierson Prealiu, I think of them more as Redskins then Hokies
That's the way I feel. Any Memphis (DeAngelo Williams) or MD players that are no longer in the uniform and are in another pro uniform, I want them to fail against us. But, I don't root for them to fail or succeed when they play for another team in the NFL. It's all about the Redskins and nothing more. I see alot of fans in here that hold on to players from their alma maters and the lovefest for them is nausiating to me.
gatorskin77
December-9th-2011, 09:02 AM
As long as they don't go to a division rival I still love them, but I have nothing but hate for guys like Emit Smith.
No_Pressure
December-9th-2011, 09:05 AM
Typically what happens is I watch their fantastic professional careers unfold with other teams while the guy we drafted struggles to find himself in the league.
You guys have no idea how badly I wanted us to draft Patrick Willis in 2007. Instead we ended up with Landry, who isn't bad but I'd rather have Willis sans his current unfortunate injury. I wanted us to pick Greg Jennings in 2006, but that wasn't a draft crush that was just a passing interest.
I did want Carlos Rogers in 2005, but I also wanted Aaron Rogers and I was disappointed when the Packers snatched him up right before us. We would have probably ruined him anyway.
I had desperetly wanted Sean Taylor and NOT Kellen Winslow. It was so awesome when we drafted Taylor.
The 2008 draft was like a nightmare. I didn't think highly of Devin Thomas, I didn't want Comb Kelly because of his degenerative knee condition we all knew about prior to the draft, I didn't even have a single clue that we were drafting a tight end because after all, why would we? Davis was the best player out of the three by far and made a lot more sense as a pick in the long run though.
In 2009 I did want Orakpo badly but I wanted him to be a defensive end in the 4-3 and not a linebacker.
In 2010 I didn't really care which guy we got between Okung and Williams. I felt they were both going to be quality players.
I guess the only one I can really think of where I wanted a player badly and we went another direction was with Patrick Willis. I think that was the season we signed Fletcher also so it wasn't so bad, but I know that a lot of people out there wanted us to take Adrian Peterson instead of Landry. That draft was fairly stacked with defensive talent.
wildbill1952
December-9th-2011, 09:07 AM
I've definitely wanted some players that the Skins passed on - Maurkice and Mike Pouncey to name two. But once they're gone from a Florida team (not being a Florida native, I pull for all of the Florida schools) and they're not a Redskin, it's more of a "too bad" thought when I see them on another team instead of following them and finding what they do week to week.
skinsgirl26
December-9th-2011, 09:13 AM
Once they leave Blacksburg, I am able to quickly forget about them.
Loved Michael Vick in college. Could care less about him now. He is an Eagle. Ditto Darryl Tapp
Kam Chancellor in Seattle? I was hoping we would burn him all game. Josh Morgan in SF? Keep him to 0 catches
Even with guys like D-Hall, Pierson Prealiu, I think of them more as Redskins then Hokies
I'm kinda the opposite. Unless we're playing the team a Hokie is on (or they're on another NFCE team) I like to see them do well. I woulda loved for the Skins to draft RW and was really lookin forward to seeing how well he would play in the NFL. I was happy for Eddie Royal with his great rookie year. I keep an eye on em, but I don't go out and buy their jerseys or root for their teams.
That being said, I don't sit there hoping the Skins will draft every Hokie and sometimes my draft crushes aren't from VT.
DGREENHULK
December-9th-2011, 10:33 AM
I had my hopes crushed last year when Locker was still on the board at 8 and it looked like he would make it to us at 10....needless to say when Tennessee took him @8 I got alittle angry.....
paloosa
December-9th-2011, 11:31 AM
It isn't worth drooling over a prospected QB or player from any college school because they could get drafted by the Redskins and then "WHAM!" he gets a broken leg and is out for the year and never the same again. They could get drafted by another team and the same thing happen. But what I have seen from our great ES posters on here is that half the time the person they want makes no impact until 2 or 3 years down the line. Some do make it but majority don't. The draft is a crap shoot and drafting the right guy for the teams system is what is important. None of the rookie QB's are making that big of an impact in the league except Cam Newton. Ponder is staring but not lighting it up in Minnesota. Andy Dalton is playing very well in Cincinnati and is properly the guy that is play the best outside of Newton. Almost every QB that was drafted last year, and starting, that people clamored for are on bad, losing teams except Dalton. We had a very good draft last year and we should have another good draft. If we happen to get the QB of the future is it going to be a good one or is it going to be another Heath Shuler, Ryan Leaf, Andre Ware, Dante Culpepper, Vince Young, Patrick Ramsey, Trent Green, or John Beck. QB's with talent but not exact fits for the teams that drafted them. They all were above average QB's in College but they could never make their mark on the sport as they were touted as. Heck, Ryan Leaf was suppose to be better than Peyton Manning and that is why the San Diego Chargers selected him#1 overall in that draft. Manning is a Hall of Fame QB with a Super Bowl ring and Ryan Leaf is out of football trying to rebuild his life. The rest are done with football except Young and Beck but it seems like the same will happen with them as the rest. They will have mediocre to below average careers and nothing to really show for it.
clarkskin
December-9th-2011, 11:49 AM
Personally I dont develop "draft crushes". Not that theres anything wrong with that...
Hiro
December-9th-2011, 11:51 AM
I am glad UMBC didn't have a football team. I can be stress free up until draft day and have no attachment to any players. :)
A fellow Retriever! :D U M! B C!
On a side note, I know some people who say they will always remain a fan of the player, but will remain loyal to their pro team no matter what.
Forehead
December-9th-2011, 11:53 AM
For me, I'm only bothered when players from my favorite team are drafted by Dallas, with Philly and the Giants being almost as bad. Being that I'm a Penn State guy, it killed me when the Cowboys took Sean Lee two years ago. Killed me...I loved Sean Lee at Penn State, but he's dead to me now.
I think the toughest, and probably only exception to this rule might be Paul Pozluszny, who was the consumate college player in all respects. An All-American, a major award winner (Butkus and Bednarik) an Academic All-American (in Finance, not some basket weaving major). Posluszny was the kind of student athlete who comes along once a decade if you're lucky, and represents your school in all ways; a fantastic citizen. If he wound up on any of the teams mentioned above, I would be hard pressed to root against him, would probably have to just be silent and neutral about the whole thing.
I might add, he's not Penn State, but the whole perfect student athlete thing above, the reasons Posluszny was so great in my eyes, are the same reasons I'm finding myself drawn more and more to Robert Griffin III.
NLC1054
December-9th-2011, 11:53 AM
I keep an eye on them, try to figure out if I was right or wrong about them. I think if they play well, there's always that lingering "what could've been" feeling, but oh well; it's on to the next one.
Hitman21ST
December-9th-2011, 11:54 AM
I actually wouldn't mind any of Luck, Griffin, or Barkley on the team, I guess you could say I have "crushes" on them. My opinion is whoever we get, that's who was best for the team, and the others aren't going to be as good for us as we might think. So I get over it.
MLSKINS
December-9th-2011, 12:18 PM
I actually wouldn't mind any of Luck, Griffin, or Barkley on the team, I guess you could say I have "crushes" on them. My opinion is whoever we get, that's who was best for the team, and the others aren't going to be as good for us as we might think. So I get over it.
Same here. That is why I am so freaking anxious. Just the thought of finally having a good prospect at QB intrigues me.
It seemed like the last two fast running backs that I wanted to play for the Redskins were both drafted by the Cowboys. (Jones and Murray)
Rabsuz
December-9th-2011, 12:26 PM
I wanted Locker at 10 last year, when the Titans picked him I stood up and cursed at the TV, you kinda are bummed for maybe a few hours, but you get over it and learn to forget you even had a crush on them in the first place, a lot like high school crushes to be honest. I suppose I like Locker, and I don't have a problem with the Titans, so I guess I wouldn't mind seeing him do well as long as it's not at the expense of the Redskins. It hurts more to pass on a prospect and he starts playing lights out for a team behind your pick. I did also want us to put in a 7th rounder or something on Greg McElroy, ES said he was the next Tom Brady and I didn't see the harm in grabbing him in the 7th.
I have a much bigger crush on RG3 this year than I did on Locker or McElroy, by a LONG shot. I think I will be legit depressed if RG3 isn't in a Redskin uniform come April, and thats not a hyperbole.
I don't really get crushes on my college team's players, WVU doesn't really churn out the greatest players anyways. I wouldn't want Geno Smith on the Redskins to be honest, maybe as a backup, I guess I think more logically than emotionally.
aussieskin
December-9th-2011, 12:36 PM
we need to pick the best prospect available for the needs we have its just that simple
Darth Tater
December-9th-2011, 01:21 PM
I've never been into college ball. I don't have the time or emotional capacity. I do, however, see that most of you do, and I've asked before what you'd do if someone from your favorite team was drafted by, say, the Cowboys. Do you pull for your alma mater or for your player to do well, even against us? The resounding answer was **** Dallas, which is always the right answer to any question, even if not the one I was asking.
I'm wondering, though, with the ultra-serious draft crushes this year, what will you do when your quarterback goes somewhere else? I want RGIII more than I want my wife to, well, you know, but I also like Tannehill. There's, for some reason, a lot of people who haven't watched Barkley or Jones play and really want them on the team (:pfft:), but some of us are going to be disappointed.
What will you do when your quarterback ends up somewhere else?
Because I have no real attachment other than up until draft day (I don't go to Baylor or A&M or any other school, as UMBC and UMB weren't known for their football teams), I won't really care come kick of 2012. However, for those of you who have been following these kids since Pop Warner, how will you feel?
The only reason I am an RG3 guy is that I'm a Baylor grad so I know RG3's game very well but I don't have a draft crush. The other big name QBs I pretty much only know what others have said so I generally refrain from comment on them. I also really am only into the draft because we've sucked recently and by late November we were pretty much out of even salvaging a decent season. College football, especially now that I've got a decent team to root for (I'm pretty sure when RG3 leaves, it'll be back to normal though), has been for the last several years my fall/winter entertainment and the draft is part of it.
TaylorPickSix
December-9th-2011, 01:49 PM
My allegiance lies much more heavily towards the Redskins than the Wahoos. I do love Chris Long and Matt Schaub, though watching both of them help beat the Redskins in the past has been quite painful.
Case in point - the Kevin Ogletree / DeAngello Hall trash talk this year before the week 3 game. Hall made the comment about gunning for Romo's ribs, which I loved, alothough he was just simply stating the obvious. KO responds something to the affect of, "yeah, what do you expect from a Blacksburg education." My immediate reaction? Ogletree should STFU, as someone who left UVA as a Redshirt Sophomore and was notorious for not giving a **** about our school or going to class. Not only do I now hate him because he's a Cowboy, but even moreso because he has the audacity to talk towards people like he actually represents my school.
Bottom line - if you don the Burgundy and Gold and aren't a total a-hole like Fat Albert, I will defend you until the day I die regardless of where you came from.
EDIT: As for this year, I am completely head over heels for RG3. Everything I read about him makes him the perfect candidate to be the face of our franchise, and his play on the field makes me think we could have the next gamechanging quarterback. Since I'm only 23, the best quarterback I've ever seen play for us is Brad Johnson. I really need this to change.
Redskins4ever
December-9th-2011, 01:53 PM
I would think that the scouts, the GM, and the head coach have backup plans on who they want to draft. But knowing Bruce Allen and Mike Shanahan, they will put the team into a excellent position in order to draft the player that they feel the team needs. If RG3 or Matt Barkley will be gone by the 5th pick, then Allen and Shanahan will do whatever they can in order to trade up just so that the Redskins can select either RG3 or Barkley when the time comes. If the Redskins are slated to pick 7th or 8th, then they will definitely trade what they have to in order to land who they ultimately need. Teams who would hold a top 5 selection will always be interested in trading away their pick if they can get good deal in place.
Never4Get21
December-9th-2011, 02:46 PM
I still root for all my Mountaineers. Love that Chris Nield is a Skin. Hope Robert Sands gets a chance in Cincy, couldn't give a damn about PacMan, hell I even want Noel Devine to tear it up for the Omaha Nighthawks lol. I wish Pat White worked out in the NFL and I really hope we draft Bruce Irvin this year even tho a OLB isn't a need but if he drops it would b good to have that depth. I also hope after we draft our franchise QB this year we draft Geno Smith next year as a backup because I think he has the tools to be successful in this league.
ThePreciating
December-9th-2011, 04:48 PM
Once they're not a Redskin, it's over.
I went to UD, and Joe Flacco is the enemy to me just as much as any other player. I'd be happier seeing him go 0-16 than 16-0. I desire success for my team and my team only.
Same goes for ex-Skins. I loved Carlos Rogers here and didn't understand why he got so much hate. Now? **** Carlos!
DavidGQ
December-9th-2011, 05:00 PM
I actually wouldn't mind any of Luck, Griffin, or Barkley on the team, I guess you could say I have "crushes" on them. My opinion is whoever we get, that's who was best for the team, and the others aren't going to be as good for us as we might think. So I get over it.
If all declare and if any of them still available when we pick and we pass on them, I would be crushed for the first time EVER. Normally I let the professional do their job. But this year is different. I am willing to take the paiin of losing so that we can draft our QB next year. But so far, based on this year draft, I trust Mike/Bruce in next year draft also.
kyousukeneko
December-10th-2011, 02:45 AM
It isn't worth drooling over a prospected QB or player from any college school because they could get drafted by the Redskins and then "WHAM!" he gets a broken leg and is out for the year and never the same again. They could get drafted by another team and the same thing happen. But what I have seen from our great ES posters on here is that half the time the person they want makes no impact until 2 or 3 years down the line. Some do make it but majority don't. The draft is a crap shoot and drafting the right guy for the teams system is what is important. None of the rookie QB's are making that big of an impact in the league except Cam Newton. Ponder is staring but not lighting it up in Minnesota. Andy Dalton is playing very well in Cincinnati and is properly the guy that is play the best outside of Newton. Almost every QB that was drafted last year, and starting, that people clamored for are on bad, losing teams except Dalton. We had a very good draft last year and we should have another good draft. If we happen to get the QB of the future is it going to be a good one or is it going to be another Heath Shuler, Ryan Leaf, Andre Ware, Dante Culpepper, Vince Young, Patrick Ramsey, Trent Green, or John Beck. QB's with talent but not exact fits for the teams that drafted them. They all were above average QB's in College but they could never make their mark on the sport as they were touted as. Heck, Ryan Leaf was suppose to be better than Peyton Manning and that is why the San Diego Chargers selected him#1 overall in that draft. Manning is a Hall of Fame QB with a Super Bowl ring and Ryan Leaf is out of football trying to rebuild his life. The rest are done with football except Young and Beck but it seems like the same will happen with them as the rest. They will have mediocre to below average careers and nothing to really show for it.
just wanna tell you do a little bit of research before you post if you don't wanna look like an idiot
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1998_NFL_Draft
in the 1998 draft
Peyton manning was Number 1 overall
Ryan Leaf was Number 2 overall
Rdskn4Lyf21
December-10th-2011, 08:55 AM
I have and will always be a fan of T.Y. Hilton. He's been the face of my school's program, he's electric, and him and his family are great people. I'm buying his jersey wherever he gets drafted to as long as it's not a team in our division. I'd be so excited to see him as a Redskin, especially because I think he'll play a Wes Welker kind of role for someone. As long as he's not a Cowboy, Eagle, or Giant, I'll follow him and root for his team (as long as they don't play us).
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LoudMouth12thMan
December-11th-2011, 01:14 AM
it's not so much about being disappointed in seeing rival teams get players that I cheer for in college. it's much more about passing on guys when I have a gut feeling that they could be a great fit for our team...and they end up tearing it up on some other team. under this regime, the passing on those players hasn't stood out to me like previous years under Vinny and Co. I get pissed when we miss the real talent in the draft. it doesn't feel like we did that last year given the approach and where we ended up picking. hopefully we'll have another solid draft is all I care about. I'd be elated if it included RG III though.
amm0409
December-11th-2011, 01:19 AM
Yeh, I hate Dwayne Harris went to the Cowgirls. I will route for him, but I still want the Skins to win. I wish we had Chris Johnson as well, but we dont. Linval Joseph who starts for Ny Giants, ah man:( I hope Willie Smith does something with us. Watch out for a guy name Lance Lewis in this upcoming draft as well.
In any case, I hope we land RG3, if we dont there are plenty of other options as well.
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Vrikk
December-11th-2011, 09:31 AM
I am glad UMBC didn't have a football team. I can be stress free up until draft day and have no attachment to any players. :)
Hey, we had a pretty good Chess team!
JMURedskins
December-11th-2011, 09:40 AM
I don't really have a draft crush any player. I do think that if the big 3 enter the draft, we need to get one of them. The Skins need a franchise QB really bad. This could be the year that we fix the most important position for years. I do get excited when the Skins draft LSU players, but LSU doesn't have a history of producing solid Pro QBs. This year won't be any different.
darrelgreenie
December-11th-2011, 11:20 AM
Keep an eye for that player, watch some of their games.
benskins26
December-11th-2011, 11:22 AM
Its brutal when my Carolina guys get drafted by rivals. Loved Bruce carter at UNC, now he's a cowboy through no fault of his own, and I feel betrayed.
Although I am rooting for tj Yates and the Texans. They're my adopted playoff team this season
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