115 days until the NFL draft

[SkinsHokieFan]

Since August, for a minority of Redskins fans its been a waiting game until the offseason. We were the original "Suck for __________" at QB and honestly assesing our feelings saw nothing more then a 5 win season (I picked 3 wins)

The season is now over and we begin the longest 116 days for the Redskins in recent history. Make no mistake about it, this will be the most important offseason in years and the choices that are made will have a long term impact.

Some things to remember.

1) RFA's and Franchise players will get their tenders
2) Teams will re-sign their own FAs
3) Teams will need to make decisions on bonuses (hello Peyton Manning) and whether or not to release those players
4) the NFL combine will occur as will pro days
5) Free agency will commence (where we should expect the Redskins to be fairly active)
6) NFL draft weekend (April 26th-28th, 2012)

All of us here have a pretty good idea of areas that should be and will be addressed (QB, o-line, secondary, WR corps) and opinions on all of it.

116 days until the draft and hopefully the night we put our cherry on top with a legit long term franchise QB. Prior to that though we gotta wait through the big boys in the playoffs and hopefully pieces being added via FA.

Its going to be a long offseason, but by mid decade we are going to see it as the augmentation of the fantastic 2011 draft and offseason, when our championship team was put together

Hail to the Redskins.

[Hawkskin]

What would you be willing to give up for that #1 pick? Whether your a Luck man or a Griffin man!!!

We have been looking for a QB since1992 that is 20 years.

I give up this years 1st, nxt years 1st... And Orakpo.. I know it's alot for an unproven commodity but we need that signal caller AND NOW!!!!!
Do you agree?

[LetThePointsSoar]

SHF- what are the dates on 1-5? Going to be a long 116 day wait...

[BuddyLeeGhostHunter]

Can't friggin' wait!

[nonniey]

What would you be willing to give up for that #1 pick? Whether your a Luck man or a Griffin man!!!

We have been looking for a QB since1992 that is 20 years.

I give up this years 1st, nxt years 1st... And Orakpo.. I know it's alot for an unproven commodity but we need that signal caller AND NOW!!!!!
Do you agree?

I would be willing to pay that price but I'd offer our 1,2,3 this year and our 1,2 and 3 next year before I offered up Orakpo.

[Hawkskin]

Thing is I don't want to give up Orakpo but figured we could use the picks left in this years draft to fill some much needed players at MLB, CB, OL and WR

[tibbidoe]

I'm just glad the "Suck for ___" Clubs will finally get to shut up.

[Crazy Levi]

Are you gonna change this thread title every day?

[braindx]

I'm just glad the "Suck for ___" Clubs will finally get to shut up.

This message board will blow up if we don't get a QB in FA or one in the draft though.

[NLC1054]

This message board will blow up if we don't get a QB in FA or one in the draft though.

*sigh*

I'll start building the bomb shelter...

[tibbidoe]

This message board will blow up if we don't get a QB in FA or one in the draft though.

That's fine. I just hope I never have to read another "I love the Redskins, but I hope we lose" or "I hate that we won" thread/post, no matter how many years the single-game outcome may set us back as a team.

[ConnSKINS26]

at 6th if the Skins' don't move up and both RGIII and Luck are gone, wouldn't Blackmon be sitting there for the taking? I love the thought of have RGIII or Luck, but a stud receiver can make a QB look better. I would rather draft him and get a QB in the second round or trade next years 1st (a lot less to give up) to get back in the end of round 1 to get Tannenhill or Foles. Am I crazy?

If anything, you're crazy for wanting to take Foles anywhere in the 1st.

And I think that Tannehill is a lock for the top-15.

[jobaga]

at 6th if the Skins' don't move up and both RGIII and Luck are gone, wouldn't Blackmon be sitting there for the taking? I love the thought of have RGIII or Luck, but a stud receiver can make a QB look better. I would rather draft him and get a QB in the second round or trade next years 1st (a lot less to give up) to get back in the end of round 1 to get Tannenhill or Foles. Am I crazy?

[HogNose]

Are you gonna change this thread title every day?

:doh: God I hope not. Anyway, we really didn't need this thread. We have the epic Forehead thread......

http://www.extremeskins.com/showthread.php?358621-Official-Redskins-Draft-Position-Tracker-Thread-Redskins-Finish-with-the-6th-pick

[skinsfan07]

What would you be willing to give up for that #1 pick? Whether your a Luck man or a Griffin man!!!

We have been looking for a QB since1992 that is 20 years.

I give up this years 1st, nxt years 1st... And Orakpo.. I know it's alot for an unproven commodity but we need that signal caller AND NOW!!!!!
Do you agree?

No. That'd be an awful decision.

[ConnSKINS26]

:doh: God I hope not. Anyway, we really didn't need this thread. We have the epic Forehead thread......

http://www.extremeskins.com/showthread.php?358621-Official-Redskins-Draft-Position-Tracker-Thread-Redskins-Finish-with-the-6th-pick

That thread has been closed.

[HogNose]

:doh: God I hope not. Anyway, we really didn't need this thread. We have the epic Forehead thread......

http://www.extremeskins.com/showthread.php?358621-Official-Redskins-Draft-Position-Tracker-Thread-Redskins-Finish-with-the-6th-pick


That thread has been closed.

Yeah just saw that...that's a shame, it had some good discussions going. Should have been retitled.

[ConnSKINS26]

Yeah just saw that...that's a shame, it had some good discussions going. Should have been retitled.

I kind of agree, but it was good of the mods to respect the OP's wishes.

[PerryMason]

I'm just glad the "Suck for ___" Clubs will finally get to shut up.

Oh rest assured, those threads will last through the offseason. They've morphed into general discussion about those individuals, so we'll probably be seeing more of that crowd. I can at least guarantee this about "Godawful for Griffin III"

[ConnSKINS26]

Oh rest assured, those threads will last through the offseason. They've morphed into general discussion about those individuals, so we'll probably be seeing more of that crowd. I can at least guarantee this about "Godawful for Griffin III"

Well...the thread's already there, so wouldn't it make sense to continue using it to discuss said prospect? That thread hasn't been about "tanking" for Griffin for quite awhile.

[LehighValleySkinsFan]

at 6th if the Skins' don't move up and both RGIII and Luck are gone, wouldn't Blackmon be sitting there for the taking? I love the thought of have RGIII or Luck, but a stud receiver can make a QB look better. I would rather draft him and get a QB in the second round or trade next years 1st (a lot less to give up) to get back in the end of round 1 to get Tannenhill or Foles. Am I crazy?

I like this backup plan the most. I say we dont trade up for any qb. Hope one falls if not we do this. Blackmon and Hankerson sounds like a good #1, 2 for the next 10 yrs. If Tannehill cant win with them and Davis at his skill positions he is a bum.

[nonniey]

I like this backup plan the most. I say we dont trade up for any qb. Hope one falls if not we do this. Blackmon and Hankerson sounds like a good #1, 2 for the next 10 yrs. If Tannehill cant win with them and Davis at his skill positions he is a bum.

Not a bad option but I would prefer (in the event we fail to get one of the top two QBs) to trade down way down and pick up two 1st round picks (Couple of trades) in 2013 to maximize the odds of getting Barkley.

[LehighValleySkinsFan]

Not a bad option but I would prefer (in the event we fail to get one of the top two QBs) to trade down way down and pick up two 1st round picks (Couple of trades) in 2013 to maximize the odds of getting Barkley.

I hear you. I guess I just dont want to put off getting a qb another yr. Cant take it.

[LehighValleySkinsFan]

Tannehill is a great long term prospect but to develop he'll need at least a couple of years. He's not a guy who will be able to be plugged in and succeed right away.

I agree. I guess I think every other qb in this draft is as well. Aside from Luck.

[2006Skins]

I like this backup plan the most. I say we dont trade up for any qb. Hope one falls if not we do this. Blackmon and Hankerson sounds like a good #1, 2 for the next 10 yrs. If Tannehill cant win with them and Davis at his skill positions he is a bum.

Tannehill is a great long term prospect but to develop he'll need at least a couple of years. He's not a guy who will be able to be plugged in and succeed right away.

[LehighValleySkinsFan]

Tannehill is a great long term prospect but to develop he'll need at least a couple of years. He's not a guy who will be able to be plugged in and succeed right away.

I agree. I guess I think every other qb in this draft is as well. Aside from Luck.

[Chilly14]

I agree. I guess I think every other qb in this draft is as well. Aside from Luck.

I think Landry Jones is a guy that can step in and play, and for all the talk about Kellen Moore's arm strength and size, I think he's going to start somewhere in the NFL at some point. I think his stock will rise leading up to the draft...Things are going to get interesting around here, thats for sure. I will say I'd rather see the Skins go for a more "ready to start" QB, than a long term project....In other words, I'd rather see an Andy Dalton type than a Jake Locker type QB...and I think Luck (obviously), Jones, and Moore (later in the draft) are better options than Griffin and Tannehill because of that.

[ConnSKINS26]

If Landry Jones doesn't go back to school, he'll be lucky to be picked on the 2nd day. He'll drop like a rock. Its in his best interests to go back to school.

[A Skinhead in Saints Land]

Not a big fan of Foles. He has no velocity on his ball at all.

[deejaydana]

I hate to say it, and this is no shot at the OP nor anyone in particular, but I find it just sad that we cling so much each year to the draft. It' s just the sign of yet another year when we finished in the basement. *sigh*

[martytheman]

Franchise qb. Im so sick of reading those 2 words here.
My vote for most overused term of 2011.

[FrFan]

What would you be willing to give up for that #1 pick? Whether your a Luck man or a Griffin man!!!

We have been looking for a QB since1992 that is 20 years.

I give up this years 1st, nxt years 1st... And Orakpo.. I know it's alot for an unproven commodity but we need that signal caller AND NOW!!!!!
Do you agree?

I do agree about the need for a QB, but I don't want us to throw away valuable draft picks. The best outcome would be to find a reliable QB in the second or third round. 1st: WR (Blackmon, Jeffery), 2nd QB (Tannehill, Jones) from the 3rd round down, BPA between OL, CB, LB, another QB. (This, assuming we don't sign a free agent QB).
I know, I want us to have our cake and eat it too. ;)

[jobaga]

If anything, you're crazy for wanting to take Foles anywhere in the 1st.

And I think that Tannehill is a lock for the top-15.

The truth is I really have no idea who the other top QBs are in the draft. Every year guys move up after the season ends. Every year a couple of DEs and DTs move up and become top 10 picks. Every mock out there has Couples (sp) as the first DL going and he is out of the top 10. Experience tells me that there will be at least 1 DL and 1 OL taken in the top 5. I think a QB will be there at 6. Maybe not Luck, but a really good QB. Either way, I would rather draft the best playmaker on the board, than mortgage the future for 1 guy. We all want a great QB and a great WR and the best OL and an elite pass rush and a ball hawking secondary. You can not get everything, but you limit your options by going 'all in' on one guy.

[kingdaddy]

I'm fine with sitting at 6 and keeping all of our draft picks. Go hard after Matt Flynn in free agency and then draft him some weapons. Although I hate saying this because we've drafted so many receivers over the past 3 years, if Blackmon is there at #6 we should take him. Team him with Hankerson and Moss, Armstrong and Gaffney and we've given Flynn good weapons at WR to go with Fred Davis. Rounds 2-7 can then be used on O-line and defense. Maybe take the best safety available in the second round or the best corner. Any kind of defensive playmaker would be great.
My plan would be to add Flynn and an O-lineman or two in free agency but I know O-lineman don't just fall off tree's. I like where Flynn is coming from and he looks ready to play right now. This is almost a no-brainer for me as opposed to trading a fortune to move up a few spots to get one of the rookie QB's.

[MrJL]

I dunno people. THe way people here are acting we obviously don't have a chance without drafting the best QB in the draft and that would take a lot to acquire in a trade. Maybe we should just draft BPA and then next season Blow It For Barkely? : )

[mi6]

I want us to draft a FRANCHISE QB! And, it's about time. However, I not willing to give up the house and our current talent for it. Orakpo should not be part of the trade deal. This years 1st and 4th, and next years 1st and 4th is all I would be prepared to give.

[shuler74]

this team does not have enough depth to be trading picks for Luck or RG III, they just need a qb who does not turn it over every freakin game.

[thesubmittedone]

Problem with threads titled like this is that after one day it essentially becomes a false statement, lol.

Maybe edit it to "a few months until the draft" or something? That way you'd just have to update it once a month?

I know, I'm nitpicking. It's just an eye sore for me. :)

[martytheman]

this team does not have enough depth to be trading picks for Luck or RG III, they just need a qb who does not turn it over every freakin game.

Finally some sanity!!
I agree 100%

[skinsarel33t]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abk3HgvwEeI&feature=player_embedded

I know we have Royster and Helu but after watching this video i wouldent be upset with Richardson if RGIII and Blackmon and Kirkpatrick are off the board when we pick. I havent seen enough from Royster yet he played against a bad Vikings team and a Eagles team that looked like it was playing in a Preseason game. I think Royster has the potential to be a solid number 2 back and i Think Helu is going to be a legit back but nothing more than a specialty back kind of like how NO used Bush.

[Ghost of Nibbs McPimpin]

I think Landry Jones is a guy that can step in and play, and for all the talk about Kellen Moore's arm strength and size, I think he's going to start somewhere in the NFL at some point. I think his stock will rise leading up to the draft...Things are going to get interesting around here, thats for sure. I will say I'd rather see the Skins go for a more "ready to start" QB, than a long term project....In other words, I'd rather see an Andy Dalton type than a Jake Locker type QB...and I think Luck (obviously), Jones, and Moore (later in the draft) are better options than Griffin and Tannehill because of that.

Landry Jones? Uhh. As for Dalton being more pro-ready than Jake Locker, he ran a spread at TCU. Newton was pro-ready and was more of a runner than RG3 has been. Also, Dalton ran plenty (more attempts per pass play than RG3 by one measure this year) so I don't know why RG3 wouldn't be adequate. Tannehill has all the tools, no way is Landry Jones a more pro-ready guy right now.

[Vrikk]

Give up our 1, 2, and 3, AND Rak? No, no, no. That's stupid. I want a QB as much as the next guy but that'll kill us.

[Ghost of Nibbs McPimpin]

I know we have Royster and Helu but after watching this video i wouldent be upset with Richardson if RGIII and Blackmon and Kirkpatrick are off the board when we pick. I havent seen enough from Royster yet he played against a bad Vikings team and a Eagles team that looked like it was playing in a Preseason game. .

Absolutely not! You don't spend that high a pick on a RB, especially when you have credible threats there anyway. And you can find sollid RBs lower in the draft. We'd be better off trading down or getting an offensive linemen. OR getting Tannehill, who can at least have more value than RBs. Especially when the prime for that position is so short.

[Win4us]

I would be willing to pay that price but I'd offer our 1,2,3 this year and our 1,2 and 3 next year before I offered up Orakpo.

This kind of "wheeling and dealing" would give opposing GM's a 1/2 chub seeing your number pop up on their caller id.