Redskins twitter - Redskins Re-sign Montgomery, Scott **UPDATEDx2** Salary update on post 97 - Old Montgomery thread

[c4man5282]

Grant Paulsen ‏ @granthpaulsen
The Redskins and center Will Montgomery have agreed on a new 4-year deal. Montgomery would have become a FA next month: http://washington.cbslocal.com/2012/02/25/redskins-agree-to-terms-with-will-montgomery/

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Redskins ‏ @Redskins
Redskins Re-sign Montgomery, Scott: The Redskins have re-signed guard/center Will Montgomery and defensive linem... http://www.redskins.com/news-and-events/article-1/Redskins-Re-sign-Montgomery-Scott/85e86389-5b0b-4691-9331-28172bc27ec7?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

[Dukes and Skins]

Good move if not a starter will be very good quality depth for us

[moondog]

Good move by the front office. Montgomery was very solid for us in the the middle last year. Definitely not a very good guard but he can play at the Center position. If he doesn't end up being a starter he is excellent depth for us.

[RWJ]

Good re-signing. Hopefully for depth. I still want us to sign Chris Myers from Houston, though.

[Rufus T Firefly]

(Mr Burns voice) Excellent. I was hoping we'd start to see some of our own re-signed.

[jivelikenice]

Hoping as depth as well....I'd be a little disappointed if we signed him to be the starter unless we're now going to focus on a guard in FA.

[BeefJerky]

Good job FO. Can either start at center, or be quality depth along the interior line. Keep up the good work.

[Harwich Hog]

These are the kind of guys you want to fill your roster with. Versatile, serviceable, dependable guys. Not going to make pro bowls necessarily but still have good impact. I wouldn't have a problem with him starting again next year.

[terpskins10]

I have a hard time believing he signed a 4 year deal prior to testing FA if there wasn't at least a very high chance he'd return as the starter. Fine by me because I think he played well, but I wouldn't expect us to bring in another starter at center now.

[Rufus T Firefly]

I have a hard time believing he signed a 4 year deal prior to testing FA if there wasn't at least a very high chance he'd return as the starter. Fine by me because I think he played well, but I wouldn't expect us to bring in another starter at center now.

Still it's all about the money to a guy looking for his first big contract. And it's not like he was likely going to be in heavy demand. A guy like that could easily decide to "test the market", not find a deal up to what his original team offered, and then not find that offer on the table anymore.

I never really saw C as a big need. I would love to get a mid round guy like Blake, Jones or Brewster to compete with him and give us some nice depth.

[DC9]

Congrats Will! This is good news for one of the few Hokies in this world who I enjoy!

[Skins199021]

i wonder if this means we are going after OGs

[thesubmittedone]

Is this what our insiders were talking about when they mentioned that Shanahan and Allen wanted to make an example soon with a contract that would reward a high character guy?

[SkinsHokieFan]

Good move.

Local guy from Centerville High School and also played at Virginia Tech.

Will be a good "vet" to have in the next few years as I believe he is now 29

[RWJ]

Is this what our insiders were talking about when they mentioned that Shanahan and Allen wanted to make an example soon with a contract that would reward a high character guy?

I think they were referring to the PD93 deal.

[SkinsHokieFan]

Still it's all about the money to a guy looking for his first big contract. And it's not like he was likely going to be in heavy demand. A guy like that could easily decide to "test the market", not find a deal up to what his original team offered, and then not find that offer on the table anymore.

I never really saw C as a big need. I would love to get a mid round guy like Blake, Jones or Brewster to compete with him and give us some nice depth.

I think Chris Meyers is such an obvious move we are going to do it.

Then you have Will/Kory as very good guard/center depth and Maurice Hurt in that mix as well.

Willie Smith can be a good swing tackle

[SemperFISkins]

Hrmm...kinda throws cold water on my "Jeff Saturday/Manning tag team to Washington" dream. That is unless he is a back up.

[issapunk]

So is this what a competent front office is like? I dig it.

[Rufus T Firefly]

I think Chris Meyers is such an obvious move we are going to do it.

Then you have Will/Kory as very good guard/center depth and Maurice Hurt in that mix as well.

Willie Smith can be a good swing tackle

I don't think so, because of age and price tag. I am not saying we definitely won't, nor am I saying it's the worst thing we could do. Just that I wouldn't do it, and I really don't see it as an 'obvious' move.

[redskindan07]

Welcome back Monty!!

[Oldskool]

Nice signing. Hopefully we can get Chris Myers from the Texans in free agency and Monty can be part of the teams long term O-line depth.

Also take note that, according to Pro Football Focus' metrics for pass blocking, Montgomery was average. Hurt was at the bottom in the league.

http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2012/02/21/2011-pass-blocking-efficiency-guards-and-centers/

[SpringfieldSkins]

Way to go. Glad we could keep him.

[Rufus T Firefly]

Nice signing. Hopefully we can get Chris Myers from the Texans in free agency and Monty can be part of the teams long term O-line depth.

Also take note that, according to Pro Football Focus' metrics for pass blocking, Montgomery was average. Hurt was at the bottom in the league.

http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2012/02/21/2011-pass-blocking-efficiency-guards-and-centers/

Hurt's numbers did get much better the last few weeks of the season, though. For a guy who was drafted as a project, we should be encouraged by Hurt's season overall.

[terpskins10]

Hrmm...kinda throws cold water on my "Jeff Saturday/Manning tag team to Washington" dream.

Thank goodness. ;)

[Monk4thaHALL]

I don't think so, because of age and price tag. I am not saying we definitely won't, nor am I saying it's the worst thing we could do. Just that I wouldn't do it, and I really don't see it as an 'obvious' move.

Yeah.
And there's the whole thing about the player wanting to up-root, leave one team and place and transition to another. Mind you Houston went to the playoffs.

[Oldskool]

I don't think so, because of age and price tag. I am not saying we definitely won't, nor am I saying it's the worst thing we could do. Just that I wouldn't do it, and I really don't see it as an 'obvious' move.

Age? He's 28, which is still in his prime and centers can play effectively into their mid 30's. As for price, he's only going to be attractive to the ZBS teams and was THE best center in the NFL last year, according to various metrics.

[Rufus T Firefly]

Age? He's 28, which is still in his prime and centers can play effectively into their mid 30's. As for price, he's only going to be attractive to the ZBS teams and was THE best center in the NFL last year, according to various metrics.

He'll be 31 at the beginning of next season. And I guarantee he'll be expensive. 7 mil per year is probably the starting spot for negotiations.

[Oldskool]

He'll be 31 at the beginning of next season. And I guarantee he'll be expensive. 7 mil per year is probably the starting spot for negotiations.

You're right I was thinking about RG Brisiel. Even at 31, he's worth offering a 2-3 year deal IMO.

[Burgold]

I think what some people forget is that we haven't seen Montgomery's ceiling. This was his first real year as a starter, he did it without an official offseason or even preseason, but he did get sixteen games worth of learning. I fully expect after working with the trainers next year and having digested all that film and work... he can improve.

It was a good first year. Now, get better. Glad to have you back, Will!

Edit: didn't realize he's that old. Still think that he has room to improve. A year's worth of full speed experience and an offseason of hard work and analysis can do nothing but help him.

[Rufus T Firefly]

You're right I was thinking about RG Brisiel. Even at 31, he's worth offering a 2-3 year deal IMO.

I wouldn't, because this team is a couple of years away from serious contention, and now you're giving a guy big money who'll be in his mid 30's by the time we get there.

Use the money on a guy like Grubbs and draft a mid-round C to develop behind Monty. Unless we're high on Satele (but I don't think he's really much better than Montgomery). John Sullivan re-signing mucked everything up.

[elkabong82]

these days it isn't easy for us to come by good OL who can last a full season. Monty is a good guy and I'm glad he's back

[RWJ]

You're right I was thinking about RG Brisiel. Even at 31, he's worth offering a 2-3 year deal IMO.

Right on target w/you OS. We NEED to sign Meyers. As to the other posters comments, there is no WAY a ZBS OC will get 7mill a year. Not all teams run the type of ZBS that Houston and us do. I'd say a 4 year/22 million dollar contract will have him here. Remember that Wiegman played into his late 30's at OC for Shanahan.

[PCinOz]

Brisiel is in fact 28 years old and is perfect for this scheme.

http://www.nfl.com/player/mikebrisiel/2506672/profile

[RWJ]

Brisiel is in fact 28 years old and is perfect for this scheme.

http://www.nfl.com/player/mikebrisiel/2506672/profile



PC, don't you think they make a move for Meyers. I see the Monty signing as depth, possibly starter if we CAN'T sign Meyers.

[PCinOz]

Depends on the $$$ in Monty's contract. We will know when we see that.

If its a middle of the range contract then a vet C may be in play, if its bottom end starters money then look to the draft.

[MrJL]

i wonder if this means we are going after OGs

with or without Montgomery we'd probably need to. I swear that guard has been our real weakest position forever

[MikeARedskinFan]

I agree moondog.The coaching staff and the front office could see his great playing,as long as he stays healthy.I think he can play all 16 games.And be a good asset at the position the coaching staff likes.

[wilbur58z]

4 year deal doesn't sound like a contract for a back-up.

[dfbovey]

4 years doesn't dictate whether he starts or not. Especially when it probably didn't cost much overall.

IMO it's a good thing to have him on the roster since he's the only healthy option coming back from last year that can actually play center (familiar with the offense and blocking scheme), and they won't be able to address every single weakness on the offensive line in one offseason. I'm much more concerned with RT and LG than I am with Montgomery starting at Center.

[skinfan2k]

Chester wasn't as bad as people claim him to be. Reality we need a RT and LG but if Kory comes back we only need a RT. Trent played at a all pro level after he came back from his injury

[dfbovey]

Chester wasn't as bad as people claim him to be. Reality we need a RT and LG but if Kory comes back we only need a RT. Trent played at a all pro level after he came back from his injury

What I'd like to see is a pro bowl caliber guard signed so that Monty and Lichtensteiner could compete for the center position. Whoever loses that battle is a quality back up at both guard and center. That is the type of scenario that would vastly improve the interior.

[skinfan2k]

What I'd like to see is a pro bowl caliber guard signed so that Monty and Lichtensteiner could compete for the center position. Whoever loses that battle is a quality back up at both guard and center. That is the type of scenario that would vastly improve the interior.

then why did they just give him a 4 year deal? Grubbs is not a zone blocking guard. maybe zuttah is

[MrJL]

then why did they just give him a 4 year deal? Grubbs is not a zone blocking guard. maybe zuttah is

there are no zone blocking guards only zone blocking centers and zone blocking tackles playing out of position

[dfbovey]

then why did they just give him a 4 year deal? Grubbs is not a zone blocking guard. maybe zuttah is

Why is it bad to have either a starting C or a backup G/C under contract for 4 years?

[jflow78]

Honestly, besides QB, I have no clue what the **** is wrong with our team. The OL seemed to play pretty well for the season, WRs seemed to play pretty well, RBs too. On defense our DBs didn't do well covering, but was it more safety or CB?

I'm tired of the Skins sucking, I hope the FO knows what's REALLY wrong. It seems like our FO thinks something's wrong every year and then we're **** that year too.

I am glad Monty signed up for 4. I thought he did well and wouldn't mind having him on the Skins for good.

[SonnyandSam]

Chester wasn't as bad as people claim him to be. Reality we need a RT and LG but if Kory comes back we only need a RT. Trent played at a all pro level after he came back from his injury

Chester was horrible on run blocking. He graded out as one of the worst run blocking guards in the league. Pass blocking was average.

[NLC1054]

What I'd like to see is a pro bowl caliber guard signed so that Monty and Lichtensteiner could compete for the center position. Whoever loses that battle is a quality back up at both guard and center. That is the type of scenario that would vastly improve the interior.

If they want Kory at center, they would've put him in competition for the center position already.

Remember, Kory competed with Casey Rabach all through camp and then through the first two games of the 2010 seasons. I think they've evaluated what Kory can do at the center position, and he carved himself a nice niche at left guard; Kory was really our best lineman before he went down.

It was pretty telling when Casey got banged up with injuries in 2010 and instead of sliding Kory to center and putting Monty in at right guard, they ALWAYS put Monty in at center, and then Monty was pretty much guaranteed the starting job at the start of camp in 2011 without the coaching staff ever inserting Kory in at center.

And I'll agree that Chris Chester gets a lot of unfair crud. Everyone struggles in their first year in the ZBS, and it didn't help that he didn't exactly have a ton of assistance from JB, who is really the only lineman who I think really deserves to get jettison.

Depending on what the money is, I think we're looking at a situation where...come on guys. Hasn't Will Montgomery sort of EARNED the starting job? He played well (in fact, a helluva a lot better) that Casey Rabach every time he was in the line-up in 2010, enough that they gave him the starting nod at center, where he and Chester were the only two guys to be healthy all day. He knows the offense, knows the SCHEME more specifically (seriously, I'm trying to study Denver's playbooks and the blocking schemes in the ZBS make my headspin, and that stuff isn't even completely diagramed the way it comes out on the field)...I think he's sort of earned his job.

But typically, you don't sign a productive guy to a four year contract...only to turn around a sign what could be a more expensive, older player to a four-five year deal, which is what I'm going to guess Myers is going to ask for.

I mean, that's what Vinny would do.

But given that the first two moves of this offseason have been 1.) to give Phillip Daniels a great role in our organization and possibly retain him to become a coach and 2.) resigned a smart, hard working, mostly productive player to what is likely to be a smart, well written deal, and last season, I think it's fair to say Vinny's era is over.

[RWJ]

If they want Kory at center, they would've put him in competition for the center position already.

Remember, Kory competed with Casey Rabach all through camp and then through the first two games of the 2010 seasons. I think they've evaluated what Kory can do at the center position, and he carved himself a nice niche at left guard; Kory was really our best lineman before he went down.

It was pretty telling when Casey got banged up with injuries in 2010 and instead of sliding Kory to center and putting Monty in at right guard, they ALWAYS put Monty in at center, and then Monty was pretty much guaranteed the starting job at the start of camp in 2011 without the coaching staff ever inserting Kory in at center.

And I'll agree that Chris Chester gets a lot of unfair crud. Everyone struggles in their first year in the ZBS, and it didn't help that he didn't exactly have a ton of assistance from JB, who is really the only lineman who I think really deserves to get jettison.

Depending on what the money is, I think we're looking at a situation where...come on guys. Hasn't Will Montgomery sort of EARNED the starting job? He played well (in fact, a helluva a lot better) that Casey Rabach every time he was in the line-up in 2010, enough that they gave him the starting nod at center, where he and Chester were the only two guys to be healthy all day. He knows the offense, knows the SCHEME more specifically (seriously, I'm trying to study Denver's playbooks and the blocking schemes in the ZBS make my headspin, and that stuff isn't even completely diagramed the way it comes out on the field)...I think he's sort of earned his job.

But typically, you don't sign a productive guy to a four year contract...only to turn around a sign what could be a more expensive, older player to a four-five year deal, which is what I'm going to guess Myers is going to ask for.

I mean, that's what Vinny would do.

But given that the first two moves of this offseason have been 1.) to give Phillip Daniels a great role in our organization and possibly retain him to become a coach and 2.) resigned a smart, hard working, mostly productive player to what is likely to be a smart, well written deal, and last season, I think it's fair to say Vinny's era is over.

So what players do you see filling out the LG and RT positions?

[pram11]

---------- Post added February-25th-2012 at 11:37 PM ----------


Brisiel is in fact 28 years old and is perfect for this scheme.

http://www.nfl.com/player/mikebrisiel/2506672/profile

He's played RG in Houston and our needs are C and LG. Not sure if we'd sign him and ask him to swich sides, but I doubt it. Zuttah is the best zone player on the market - for this offense, I'd take him over Grubbs or Nicks. Problem is, JSteelz said last week that he won't get out of Tampa.

[NLC1054]

So what players do you see filling out the LG and RT positions?

Well first, I think we have to see where Kory's at healthwise. Is he going to be able to come into camp, be heathy, work himself back into what Shanny calls "football shape" and be as effective as he was this season.

I don't really like the free agency class at guard at the top end; either too expensive, too old, or both. So at that point it becomes trying to draft a guard like Lucas Nix or Ryan Miller, get a guy like Samson Satele and/or Jeremy Zuttah in free agency and open it up to open competition between Kory, the rook, and the free agent, with Hurt in the mix there too if Kory's not 100 percent. You get quality depth out of it, you create competition. Seems like a good deal to me.

At right tackle, the class of guys is even lamer. Honestly, it might be a thing where JB sticks around and dukes it out with Tyler Polumbus just because there aren't a whole lot of options in free agency. In the draft, I like Matt Reynolds, Nate Potter and liked the way Mitchell Schwartz moved at the Combine. But free agency BLOWS for tackles.

But that's how I'd do it. If it was me.

[Landrys Laundry]

Dont know too much about the deal or the player for that matter. I know hes solid but not anything special. Sorry about thelack of knowledge ill let you know more of the details once given.

What do you guys think about the resignng?

[chipwhich]

http://www.extremeskins.com/showthread.php?362760-Grant-Paulsen-twitter-Redskins-and-FA-Center-Will-Montgomery-agree-to-terms

Already a thread.

[blindlywewander]

Give him a pass. Canada doesn't have Twitter :)

http://www.extremeskins.com/showthread.php?362760-Grant-Paulsen-twitter-Redskins-and-FA-Center-Will-Montgomery-agree-to-terms

[Landrys Laundry]

haha oh my bad boys! i honestly didnt know

[UK SKINS FAN '74]

Good move, Congrats Will.

I think he's deserving of this deal & has a lot to offer as part of the overall OL group.

What's the chances of Chris Chester ending up at RT ?

[wilco_holland]

I don't say anything until I saw the numbers....what will his cap hit be the next four years.

[MartinC]

So what players do you see filling out the LG and RT positions?

Good question. I think both spots are big questions and there is not a lot at either spot in free agency IMO.

I think LG is Korys spot if he is healthy, he was playing very well last season before the injury. Nicks is by a long way the best guard in free agency but he is going to be very expensive and I can't see the Saints letting him hit the market anyway. I can see us adding a second tier guy in free agency and bringing in someone in the middle of the draft as depth.

At RT they will bring Brown back but he has to prove he is healthy or he might not even make the roster. Pickings in free agency are slim so we have to look to draft a tackle however if we do trade up and take RGIII we will almost certainly not be picking again before the 3rd round .....Smith played well at LT after Trent was suspended maybe he gets moved to RT?

[COWBOY-KILLA-]

He earned it...he was steady and deserved to be extended. Definitely a better center then guard. Not a big fan of him a guard. At center he's totally adequate. Like the move.

[terpfan44]

never knew Montgomery came from the Panthers...wonder if they have any more linemen laying around they don't need?

[Pskins]

Another shrewd FO move. Will was really reliable when our O-line was crushed by injuries.

[NLC1054]

Good question. I think both spots are big questions and there is not a lot at either spot in free agency IMO.

I think LG is Korys spot if he is healthy, he was playing very well last season before the injury. Nicks is by a long way the best guard in free agency but he is going to be very expensive and I can't see the Saints letting him hit the market anyway. I can see us adding a second tier guy in free agency and bringing in someone in the middle of the draft as depth.

At RT they will bring Brown back but he has to prove he is healthy or he might not even make the roster. Pickings in free agency are slim so we have to look to draft a tackle however if we do trade up and take RGIII we will almost certainly not be picking again before the 3rd round .....Smith played well at LT after Trent was suspended maybe he gets moved to RT?

My guess is that JB might get a stay of execution and stay right tackle, but he'll compete with Tyler Polumbus, who wasn't totally awful in his playing time, and maybe we try Smith at tackle and hope for the best.

[RWJ]

My guess is that JB might get a stay of execution and stay right tackle, but he'll compete with Tyler Polumbus, who wasn't totally awful in his playing time, and maybe we try Smith at tackle and hope for the best.

Just watch us send a 5th or 6th to Denver for Ryan Harris.

[Laxpunk2006]

Just watch us send a 5th or 6th to Denver for Ryan Harris.

He was a free agent for parts of last season. It seems to me if we were interested we would have gotten him for free rather than waiting around and sending a draft pick.

[PlayAction]

He earned it...he was steady and deserved to be extended. Definitely a better center then guard. Not a big fan of him a guard. At center he's totally adequate. Like the move.

I like the signing as well. But he really needs to continue to earn his starting spot at C. As a backup he'd need to be able to play both G and C. His short time at G showed that he was inadequate.

Lichtensteiger would be great as a backup because he obviously did well at LG and has a lot of experience at C. But you don't normally put your "best" OL on the bench. I'd still like to see the Skins draft a Guard.

[NLC1054]

Just watch us send a 5th or 6th to Denver for Ryan Harris.

Harris isn't with Denver. He was with Philly this season but I believe he got IR'd in camp because he was dealing with back issues. It's an option, but it really depends on how healthy he is.

[RWJ]

Harris isn't with Denver. He was with Philly this season but I believe he got IR'd in camp because he was dealing with back issues. It's an option, but it really depends on how healthy he is.

Didn't he play for the last part of the season for Denver and do pretty well.

[acuratl1984]

Yea, pretty sure Denver resigned him. After Chris Cuper went down I think.

[Redskins4ever]

While I would have liked the Redskins to draft Brewster from Ohio State, retaining Will Montgomery is a wise move. Montgomery played better in 2011 than Casey Rabach did in 2010.

[Win4us]

Signing Monty was a great start....now just gotta address the RT spot and left guard.

[DC9]

Signing Monty was a great start....now just gotta address the RT spot and left guard.

Datko should be there in the 4th when we pick... so unless we trade both of our 4ths, we should have him and he's a starter waiting to happen.

[Win4us]

Datko should be there in the 4th when we pick... so unless we trade both of our 4ths, we should have him and he's a starter waiting to happen.

I gotta admit i don't know much about the prospects so i'll def have to check him out. RT is a very high MUST though, and i for one would much rather have a higher round drafted OL than relying on FA.

Gonna google Datko now, appreciate the info as well.

Edit: You got me very interested in this guy DC9, sounds like exactly what we need. Hope he lasts til the 4th though.

http://www.seminoles.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/datko_andrew00.html

[RWJ]

The big MYSTERY question is how much did we sign him for and what money is guaranteed?

[London Kev]

Another sensible move by the F.O. The center position is Monty's to lose.
It would be good to get Lich back as well. He said that he'll be ready for camp, but a mid round OG would probably be a wise choice.

[RWJ]

Another sensible move by the F.O. The center position is Monty's to lose.
It would be good to get Lich back as well. He said that he'll be ready for camp, but a mid round OG would probably be a wise choice.

Maybe we make a play for Mike Brisiel during FA. Just a thought.

[Jericho]

Yea, pretty sure Denver resigned him. After Chris Cuper went down I think.


Denver did sign him, but I have no idea to what terms. He might again be a free agent (I'd think he want to be after last season)

[Laxpunk2006]

Denver did sign him, but I have no idea to what terms. He might again be a free agent (I'd think he want to be after last season)

Rotoworld has him listed as under contract for 2012 for $700,000. I'm not familiar with that site so I can't comment on the accuracy.

[The Full Monty]

Welcome back Monty!!
Thanks I look forward to working hard this year.

I'm sure you're all happy that Highway 61 is no longer in service.

[RWJ]

Rotoworld has him listed as under contract for 2012 for $700,000. I'm not familiar with that site so I can't comment on the accuracy.

This is correct. This is why I'm saying IF the Broncs are willing to settle for a 5th or 6th round draft choice and he were to CLEAR a medical exam, it might be worthwhile to sign the guy. Don't know what Shanahan wants to do but he's played in his ZBS before and played at OG last year for the Broncs. We shall see.

[PCinOz]

Harris is under contract with Denver for 2012.

And I;m with you here RWJ, I;ve been saying over on CPND, that if Harris isn't cut we could see a low draft pick trade for Harris or a swap of picks like last year in the Carriker deal.

He's finally healthy.

[martytheman]

Thanks I look forward to working hard this year.

I'm sure you're all happy that Highway 61 is no longer in service.

Glad you're back Monty, I thought you did a helluva job and really helped solidify the interior, I don't recall a bad snap all season.

Mean parting shot at CR tho!!

[pjfootballer]

Good, I like to see us locking up our own without worry of the salaray cap. We can re-sign all of our guys without the worry of restructuring any other players.

[RWJ]

Hey C4, can you possibly update the thread title with the amount of the contract once we get the info?:) THanks.

[WeThreeKingsRuleU]

i wonder if this means we are going after OGs

Original gangsters? some experience along the line WOULD be nice...

I definitely thought Monty was a breath of fresh air at the center position, and I really liked what I saw from Scott during the preseason last year, surprised that he never cracked the starting lineup during regular season,even with Jarvis Jenkins going down, or did he and I missed it? Also, any news on the recovery of Jenkins?

[RWJ]

Original gangsters? some experience along the line WOULD be nice...

I definitely thought Monty was a breath of fresh air at the center position, and I really liked what I saw from Scott during the preseason last year, surprised that he never cracked the starting lineup during regular season,even with Jarvis Jenkins going down, or did he and I missed it? Also, any news on the recovery of Jenkins?


JZ tweeted awhile ago that Kory Lich. is supposed to sign soon.

[authentic]

Also, any news on the recovery of Jenkins?

it was reported about 2 weeks ago that Jenkins could play in a game now..

[Long n Left]

never knew Montgomery came from the Panthers...wonder if they have any more linemen laying around they don't need?

I know this was in jest, but the Panthers are about $10mill. over the cap, and talk around here is that Travelle Wharton and/or Jeff Otah may be let go to create space.

[Laxpunk2006]

Original gangsters? some experience along the line WOULD be nice...

I definitely thought Monty was a breath of fresh air at the center position, and I really liked what I saw from Scott during the preseason last year, surprised that he never cracked the starting lineup during regular season,even with Jarvis Jenkins going down, or did he and I missed it? Also, any news on the recovery of Jenkins?

I wasn't that surprised he never made a start. With Cariker and Bowen we had two starting quality ends even with Jenkins on IR. He was actually behind Golston as well. He was released mid season but picked back up after Golston was IR'd.

He did look good last preseason but I expect him to be insurance against Golston signing elsewhere. I think I read on here that the staff liked what they saw from Kentwan Balmer but I don't remember a source so that may be my imagination.

[Hitman#21]

Like both moves. Time to get Fletch, Sleepy, Adam C, and 30 locked up.

[acuratl1984]

I know this was in jest, but the Panthers are about $10mill. over the cap, and talk around here is that Travelle Wharton and/or Jeff Otah may be let go to create space.

Dunno if he fits the ZBS. I know he was credit alot in 2008 when both DeAngelo and Jonathan Stewart combine to over 2000 yds, and I "THINK" not positive but the Panthers dump there power blocking scheme and went to the ZBS that year.

BUT Otah only has 4 years, so he would go through waivers? Which... INDY, STL, Vikes, Cleveland, Bucs, would ALL probably take him. STL/Vikes is probably 110% sure they would take him.

[ddub52]

Who is Scott Montgomery?

[terpskins10]

Who is Scott Montgomery?

There shouldn't be a comma. This is the guy we signed.

http://mario.lapam.mo.it/tos/gifs/scotty.gif

[STBonecrusher21]

Who is Scott Montgomery?

:ols:

Just in case you're serious. We re-signed Will Montgomery, and Darion Scott.

[roanoker]

Glad Will is on the roster. With the way guys were going down this past season, depth was an issue. Hopefully, more consideration will be given this year in signing players that can do more than run back kicks/punts.

[ILikeBilly]

I had an odd thought as I was rocking my 1yo to sleep - What if the 'Skins signed Monty so that he could be part of a trade to St. Louis when we trade up to #2. I have heard rumors that players would be involved. I don't know anything about the Rams interior OL, but a good utility player is always useful. So is the possible? Of course, but it was just 1 of my fleeting thoughts. How would you feel if we sent him to the Rams? Me, if we get RGIII, then I am okay with trading him.

[THEREALTOR1]

it was reported about 2 weeks ago that Jenkins could play in a game now..


Wow, that might actually be the best news i've heard all offseason (and including the last few months of the actual season).

[Laxpunk2006]

I had an odd thought as I was rocking my 1yo to sleep - What if the 'Skins signed Monty so that he could be part of a trade to St. Louis when we trade up to #2. I have heard rumors that players would be involved. I don't know anything about the Rams interior OL, but a good utility player is always useful. So is the possible? Of course, but it was just 1 of my fleeting thoughts. How would you feel if we sent him to the Rams? Me, if we get RGIII, then I am okay with trading him.

Jason Brown.

The Rams already have a good center. He turns 29 this May.

[c4man5282]

Hey C4, can you possibly update the thread title with the amount of the contract once we get the info?:) THanks.

Jason La Canfora ‏ @JasonLaCanfora
Will Montgomery's 4 year extension with WAS worth a max of $12M, with no signing bonus #insideslant


Jsteelz ‏ @Jsteelzextreme
4 yr lets say 12 mill

Jsteelz ‏ @Jsteelzextreme
3-year APY: $2,858,333.00, on that

[RWJ]

Jason La Canfora ‏ @JasonLaCanfora
Will Montgomery's 4 year extension with WAS worth a max of $12M, with no signing bonus #insideslant


Jsteelz ‏ @Jsteelzextreme
4 yr lets say 12 mill

Jsteelz ‏ @Jsteelzextreme
3-year APY: $2,858,333.00, on that



I like the numbers alot on this contract. Way to go front office. You did a great job on Will.

[moondog]

Jason Brown.

The Rams already have a good center. He turns 29 this May.

He was a valued free agent that a lot on here were interested in a year or so ago. That being said, if memory serves correctly he was very underwhelming for them and did not play well since going to the Rams.

[c4man5282]

Darrion Scotts deal

Jsteelz ‏ @Jsteelzextreme
@c4man5282 700 thou a year for scott 2 year deal.

[Oldskool]

It appears even with Monty's new contract they could presumably still be looking for a FA upgrade.

http://blogs.fredericksburg.com/redskinsjournal/2012/02/28/the-details-of-will-montgomerys-contract/#.T02n9lvYZxA.twitter


Thus, if Montgomery makes the roster out of training camp, he’ll earn a nice paycheck.

Could that be a sign the Redskins don’t necessarily expect Montgomery to make the roster? It’s doubtful; at the very least, he’ll be on the team as a backup center. He started all 16 games last season, including two at left guard, and graded out as Pro Football Focus’ 12th-best center in the run game.

[Hitman21ST]

It appears even with Monty's new contract they could presumably still be looking for a FA upgrade.

http://blogs.fredericksburg.com/redskinsjournal/2012/02/28/the-details-of-will-montgomerys-contract/#.T02n9lvYZxA.twitter

Just more evidence of Shanny and Allen being very careful with the contracts and how the players get paid.


Most large roster bonuses come near the end of a contract, when an aging player is given some incentive to perform and make the team as a worthy contributor. It’s just interesting to see a contract worded in such a way, especially for a team that has so much cap room (expected to be approximately $45 million).

[Darth Tater]

Just more evidence of Shanny and Allen being very careful with the contracts and how the players get paid.
With so much cap, I'd expect us to load the contracts with relatively high upfront salaries and roster bonuses in the out year. With the coming floor especially, you really want to match as much of the cash payout to when the that payout is allocated to the cap as you can.

[MikeARedskinFan]

I really think the singing of Will Montgomery will help the team as soon as next year.Also just stop and think a minute,the last time we had a decent Q.B. we won the Super Bowl.So we should get a very good Q.B. in the draft Hello Super Bowl.

[The Full Monty]

It was great having a solid center that provided an inside push for our running game and kept athletic interior linemen like Jay Ratliff off of our QBs. It seemed like Rabach would always give up multiple hits/sacks/pressures to Ratliff almost every single game. I'm a big Montgomery fan, very underrated and I wish he had started sooner. That Tennessee game in 2010, when Will stepped in well for an injured Rabach, really opened my eyes how bad Rabach was.

[Laxpunk2006]

He was a valued free agent that a lot on here were interested in a year or so ago. That being said, if memory serves correctly he was very underwhelming for them and did not play well since going to the Rams.

I just checked out the analysis on PFF and it looks like he ranked among the bottom in pass protection this year.

[moondog]

I just checked out the analysis on PFF and it looks like he ranked among the bottom in pass protection this year.

Yeah, I wasn't sure of rankings but I know that a ton of people REALLY wanted us to go after him when he was a FA out of Baltimore after 2008. He was young (still is only 28) and was a complete stud for the Ravens. Plus everyone was ready to see Rabach go. But I think I remember hearing the announcers really beating him up for how poorly he has turned out for the Rams on MNF or SNF either this year or last. Sounds like they were correct.

Perhaps he is simply a bad fit for what they were trying to do there because I know he was playing very well for the Ravens. Perhaps it was Baltimore's power scheme? I'm not too familiar with what kind of offense the Rams have been running recently (other than give Jackson the ball every play because Bradford's got no one to throw to).

[Spear]

There shouldn't be a comma. This is the guy we signed.

<edit out rule 11 violation---one week ban suspended due to no previous violations in 8 years >We need more guys who give her all she's got. I am concerned about him being stuck in a transporter beam for 70 years -- that usually leads to hammy problems.

[jeronimobrat]

We need more guys who give her all she's got. I am concerned about him being stuck in a transporter beam for 70 years -- that usually leads to hammy problems.

Spear... fix your post champ before you get a Temp. Ban.

[HBnotBlades]

I was just reading the thread and noticed people saying Montgomery was older than they thought. I thought he was a young guy too, mainly because he was a year younger than me and he was an acquaintance through college. Then I looked at my age and said, "I forgot, I'm about to turn 30. Dammit". :slap:

[Hitman21ST]

We need more guys who give her all she's got. I am concerned about him being stuck in a transporter beam for 70 years -- that usually leads to hammy problems.

Might want to edit out that picture Spear.

[skinny21]

Honestly, besides QB, I have no clue what the **** is wrong with our team. The OL seemed to play pretty well for the season, WRs seemed to play pretty well, RBs too. On defense our DBs didn't do well covering, but was it more safety or CB?

I'm tired of the Skins sucking, I hope the FO knows what's REALLY wrong. It seems like our FO thinks something's wrong every year and then we're **** that year too.

I am glad Monty signed up for 4. I thought he did well and wouldn't mind having him on the Skins for good.

I'm with you, somewhat difficult to tell what needs fixing. QB was the most glaring problem of course, but beyond that...

We certainly need a starting strong safety (maybe Gomes is that guy), better play from the RT position, a nickel corner (Thompson maybe? Certainly not Barnes), free safety depth, and perhaps a stud Wr.

The rest all had their ups and downs. My belief is that a lot of the problems last year stemmed from inconsistency - guys with new teammates playing next to them, guys new to their position, new to the scheme and guys new to the NFL.

Last season's experience, a full offseason, and regaining health should play a big part in this team improving (I hope). Fill our major holes and I think this team will go as far as the quarterbacking can take them. Consistency and continuity are huge factors in this league, o-line play stands as the most obvious example of this, but it applies across the board.

[Oldskool]

according to J.I. Halsell (@salarycap101) the way Monty's contract is structured without a signing bonus, there is no potential for future dead money.

[UK SKINS FAN '74]

according to J.I. Halsell (@salarycap101) the way Monty's contract is structured without a signing bonus, there is no potential for future dead money.

Which is perfect for both the FO & the player. Monty gets a 500% pay rise for 2012, we push his high salary through this year whilst we have plenty of cap space.

[pjfootballer]

according to J.I. Halsell (@salarycap101) the way Monty's contract is structured without a signing bonus, there is no potential for future dead money.

And again, what I LOVE about this FO.

[bulldog]

Montgomery is an overachiever but in the end is not a center that is going to make a difference for you in the matchups with the league's best DTs.

The center position has changed in recent years from one where you get an undersized guy that is smart enough to call the protections and be the unit leader to one where in addition to being smart and a leader he also has to have the size and strength of a guard to battle inside against defenders that are a lot bigger than they were 10 years ago.

Montgomery is your classic undersized center at 6'3 and 300. If the Redskins had two pro bowl caliber guards in the lineup perhaps you could get away with 'hiding' him a bit with scheme, but with the guards the Redskins have on the roster, Montgomery needs to be able to match up at times on his own and that is where he fails.

One thing I really didn't like was Montgomery saying the Redskins were very close to contending because they beat the Giants twice last year.

THAT comment shows me that he still doesn't get it 100%. He should be smarter than that.

The Redskins beat the Cowboys twice in 1995 when Dallas won the Super Bowl. So what?

The Redskins were still an awful team.

[thesubmittedone]

^^ I heavily disagree with your last assertion, bulldog. Players are not, and should not be, in a position to determine how good the team is or not. They should believe, and if they don't, find reasons to believe. Which is exactly what Monty is doing here. We don't need players to evaluate and assess where we are as a team and whether or not the talent/coaching is there to win. We need players to go out and give it their all every game, every play, and every practice as if that's all that is needed to win.

It's the coaches job to evaluate and assess our position as a team and whether or not we're close enough to win, or whether or not we have the ammo to do so. That's why you have organizational structure in the first place. What you're positing about Monty not being a good thing is the exact opposite. What he said is, by it's very essence, incredibly important for a player to have... and that is belief.

[bulldog]

a veteran player with football smarts does not link beating one team during a 5-11 regular season with being close to winning big in the NFL :laugh:

it is just silly on the face of it.

that's like the Wizards crowing about the fact they beat OKC several weeks ago despite being 7-28.

it's called not getting it.