Who should be the back up QB

[twistedpower]

most of the threads on here are about the Trade or the drafting of a starting QB but Now that we know we'll get RG3, who should be the backup QB?

One option is to go veteran, but I like the idea of picking up a late rounder and let him develope along side RG3, if we can get Russell Wilson in the fifth round I think it would be a great fit. Both are accurate strong armed throwers that out up very similar numbers in college and at the combine. The offence wouldn't have to change when the backup comes into the game like it would if we had a veteran that isn't as athletic as these two are. Wilson would cost a lot less then a veteran and we could use that money somewhere else.

What are everyone's thoughts on this, and since I don't post cry often, if I didn't format this correctly can a mod fix it for me

[zskins]

It is going to be Rex.

[Redskins4ever]

It could very well be Jonathan Crompton if the Redskins don't re-sign Grossman. Beck will not be a Redskin. If he is, he'll be third string if Crompton outshines him in training camp.

[joeknows]

#1 rgiii
#2 rg

[nonniey]

I'd say Rex but there are other candidates that know the system, how about our old draft pick Sage Rosenfel?

[tibbidoe]

For as bad as he's been, I'd think Rex Grossman would be the logical choice. Can start until Griffin is ready, knows the system, not the worst mentor we could put around the rookie.

Hopefully we won't need to think much about the backup for the next 10 years or so.

[redskindan07]

I would love to get rid of Rex and go with Orton but I don't see it happening

[terpfan]

Rex works for me. He knows the system. As a backup, he's fine.

[Rufus T Firefly]

I would love to get rid of Rex and go with Orton but I don't see it happening

Ditto. The only vets who would be interested in signing here now would be guys who know they aren't starters anymore, and that isn't Orton, imo. I would be fine with Rex. Brady Quinn would be a decent option if Rex won't re-sign.

I would love to see us get a young vet to be the number 3 QB. Max Hall, perhaps.

[SWFLSkins]

The guy with the clipboard who never gets his name called, you know, what's his face?

[NattyBo]

Rex would be great as a backup.

[GhostofSparta]

Why not do both? I think it makes sense to have a veteran and 2 rookies. Rex and RGIII can battle it out in camp for the starting spot (which will be RGIII's by the end of the year), and draft a 6/7 round QB to be the clipboard holder. Most teams carry 3 QBs, there's no reason we can't. And there's no reason to have 2 vets.

[Hunter_R]

RGIII should back up RGIII.

[twistedpower]

Why not do both? I think it makes sense to have a veteran and 2 rookies. Rex and RGIII can battle it out in camp for the starting spot (which will be RGIII's by the end of the year), and draft a 6/7 round QB to be the clipboard holder. Most teams carry 3 QBs, there's no reason we can't. And there's no reason to have 2 vets.

good idea, how do i edit the poll to add that option

[skinsfan4life7]

Re-Sign Grossman to be the backup. Cut Beck and Crompton. Draft a project QB in the 5th round or later to groom to be the future backup (or maybe insurance if RG3 doesn't pan out).

[E-Dog Night]

This is a damn good question.

If egos weren't involved and people didn't get their feelings hurt, then Rex Grossman is easily the best choice. But will Rex mentor the young kid? Will he willingly step aside without feeling left out in the cold? This brew could create chemistry problems.

But there's nobody better available to be the backup. Thing is, with Rex on the roster, guess who has a good gambler's chance at being the day one starter?

Yeah. This guy.

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[TD_washingtonredskins]

RWI should back up RGIII.

[SWVASkinFan]

Why not do both? I think it makes sense to have a veteran and 2 rookies. Rex and RGIII can battle it out in camp for the starting spot (which will be RGIII's by the end of the year), and draft a 6/7 round QB to be the clipboard holder. Most teams carry 3 QBs, there's no reason we can't. And there's no reason to have 2 vets.

Watch Super Bowl XXII and who do you see carrying the clipboard? ...although hopefully we'll have RG3 at the reigns for a long time and not need to have that clipboard carrying backup for about 5 yrs or so....

[HailSkins83]

Dennis Dixon.... I believe he is a free agent...

[GhostofSparta]

good idea, how do i edit the poll to add that option

Once the poll is made, it can't be edited. Maybe the mods could re-do it, but that's a bit of a stretch.

[Probos]

Anyone but Rex.

[Louskins9193]

We either use Rex or get a QB via FA, we don't need to draft another QB this year,we have too many other pressing needs that need to be addressed.

[RedskinsSuperBowl21]

Josh Johnson should be our back up quarterback...hes a 6-3 mobile quarterback with a strong arm. He is a free agent. John Harbaugh was his coach at San Diego State. He 32 touchdown and only 1 or none interceptions his senior year in college

[jocool1313]

We either use Rex or get a QB via FA, we don't need to draft another QB this year,we have too many other pressing needs that need to be addressed.

Amen to this idea. We need to keep adding good young players across the board to our roster!! Can't wait for FA on Tuesday!

[Rex Tomb]

Why not do both? I think it makes sense to have a veteran and 2 rookies. Rex and RGIII can battle it out in camp for the starting spot (which will be RGIII's by the end of the year), and draft a 6/7 round QB to be the clipboard holder. Most teams carry 3 QBs, there's no reason we can't. And there's no reason to have 2 vets.

We should definitely look at Russell Wilson. The guy will be a great #2 - incredibly talented and tough player out of Wisconsin.

[Staxnet]

Jason Campbell

[SKINSFAN87]

I would take a look at bringing in kyle orton, that's if he doesn't have any starting opportunities anywhere else. He would give us a chance of winning, in case griffin isn't able to play. Forget any of the current qb's on this roster.

[Skins3000]

I want David Garrard

[COWBOY-KILLA-]

Josh Johnson sounds good if we can't re-sign Rex. If Rex gives any inclination that he's not 100% supportive, then I choose JJ or some other vet.

[DogofWar1]

Rex makes the most sense. He's not going to get paid much, so he'll probably come back cheap. Heck, rumors were he was holding out for more money, but we all know he's not getting major money.

He knows the playbook, so he could help in mentoring RGIII, and could step in *knock on wood* if he got injured.

As much as I hate the idea, I'd also be fine with Grossman starting the first couple games until he really screws up, and then letting RGIII take over for good. Letting RGIII hold a clipboard and watch real games, even for two weeks, wouldn't be bad, and then RGIII would also have some tape to watch, so he could really get good info on how to dissect defenses.

[MusicCitySkin]

Keep Rex for 2nd spot, then either trade for Jimmy Clausen or late round pick/UDFA for 3rd spot.

[UKskins]

I would be happy with Sexy Rexy back next year. He throws a lot of INTs and is never a starter in a million years, but he would be top quality as back up. He knows the playbook and the offensive scheme better than anyone. Hell, maybe RG3 can coach him up a bit with his technique and he might become a better QB too :D It's weird, maybe it's just because it's out of season and I'm not watching him throw picks every week but I'm getting a strange affinity for Rexy!!

I also agree with those who are against drafting another QB this year, I would rather add some depth elsewhere. Maybe if we had this year's 2nd I would entertain the idea, but we don't so I think we need to use the picks we have pretty carefully, not just throw a pick at a QB to be our 3rd stringer..... Maybe trade back some next year, depending where we're picking obviously, and pick up a few extra late rounders and take another rookie then, when RG3 will have that year of experience which would help him mentor and develop a guy to be a backup.

Orton surely won't sign up as a backup I wouldn't think. He'll go wherever he has a legit shot at starting - probably CLE if they don't get Flynn.

[#98QBKiller]

Rex makes the most sense IMO. He's not a great starter but he's a capable backup who knows the system well and can step in if needed.

[Disco Dave]

I'd like to see Rex as our No.2 QB. He could help RG3 with our system and I think Rex will be Ok if he has to start a few games next year.

[SkinFaninOKC]

I voted for Rex, he knows the system, he knows this is his only shot at even being on a team, and he knows the places with all the ladies so RG III can start lining them up. JK on the ladies!!!

[Alaskins]

I'm for Rex as the backup and either Jimmy Clausen or Brady Quinn Medicine Woman as the 3rd

[slaga]

#1 rgiii
#2 rgDon't you mean

#1 RG3 (Robert Griffin the 3rd)
#2 RG3 (Rex Grossman the 3rd)

[Laxpunk2006]

I would say resign Rex Grossman first. Then sign Dennis Dixon or Josh Johnson, or draft a late round guy.

That give you a young starter, veteran that knows the system, and a youngish developmental guy to groom as a long term backup. Clearly the developmental player won't be the athlete RGIII is but could be similar enough to keep the offense as similar as possible if RGIII were to miss time.

[Dirt]

I'm torn. Rex's familiarity with the system sounds great, but he's so uniquely bad. There's not another QB I can think of who is so capable of playing, yet has a bizarro, split personality that you DO NOT want on the field. I think we've seen enough of Rex to know that he IS what he IS, and doesn't really improve, or get worse.

In the ****ty even that RG3 can't play for a few weeks, we know exactly what's going to happen: turnovers. It's not like "oh well here's another shot for Rex", it's "here we go again". I like him and hate him. I don't think I would want him on the field. Orton I guess?..

[Stophovr6]

Resign Rex, cut Beck, find a project in an undrafted FA.

[skinsfan1993]

1. RG3
2. Rex.
3. Jonathan

John Beck should never even be THOUGHT of being resigned. He's so bad that he breaks records. (Taking 10 sacks against Buffalo on in Toronto, Checking down to Roy 14 times in a game, etc)

[The Robert Griffin Experience]

I'm torn. Rex's familiarity with the system sounds great, but he's so uniquely bad. There's not another QB I can think of who is so capable of playing, yet has a bizarro, split personality that you DO NOT want on the field. I think we've seen enough of Rex to know that he IS what he IS, and doesn't really improve, or get worse.

In the ****ty even that RG3 can't play for a few weeks, we know exactly what's going to happen: turnovers. It's not like "oh well here's another shot for Rex", it's "here we go again". I like him and hate him. I don't think I would want him on the field. Orton I guess?..

I think that in a short, 1-2 game stretch, a Rex Grossman with a fresh arm and fresh legs could be "Good Rex" for that 2 game stretch. Which is all we'd be asking of him.

The thing with Rex is that on several areas of QB play he is good, even, dare I say, elite (he reads defenses very well despite his INTs, he has a great understanding of the game, he's very accurate to the middle of the field, his fundamentals are generally quite good) - his problem is that he's just below the threshold for "NFL QB" in terms of physical talent, height, and the like. He throws INTs not because of horrible reads or purely inaccurate throws - he throws INTs because he doesn't have the arm to get it to his target but he tries to make the play anyway. That's why his teammates love him - he tries to make plays, INTs be damned.

In short, he's an almost ideal backup especially for a young franchise QB - smart, knows the system, isn't going to ***** about not being the starter, well-liked by teammates, good work ethic, and can start in a pinch.

[Crazy Levi]

I'm for Grossman. Fact is, he can win a game - here and there LOL - and that could come in handy.

And there's something to be said for chemistry...it's something anybody with a decent memory here should know to be true. We don't need to go all Year 2000 with this team. The team knows Grossman and seems to like him, he should stay. And he'll be cheap.

Beck should never wear a Redskins - or any other NFL - jersey again.

---------- Post added March-11th-2012 at 10:41 PM ----------


I'm for Rex as the backup and either Jimmy Clausen or Brady Quinn Medicine Woman as the 3rd

I don't see Clausen signing anywhere to be a 3rd QB. Or Quinn for that matter. Third QBs are almost always young guys who have never started more than a couple NFL games.

[Thirtyfive2seven]

Rex wasn't great for us this year but i'm telling you right now if something happens to RGIII i want him as a backup and here is why. He knows the system. he's good enough to get you 3-4 wins in a pinch if absolutely necessary. A new QB is not going to come in and light the world on fire in this system. See Beck. Therefore Rex gives us the best chance to win games.

[ixcuincle]

Grossman. Familiar with offense. Hopefully he doesn't see much more time ;)

[Blue Collar Skins]

I really would love to have Brandon Weeden. I think he will be a very good Pro and would be a good backup to Griffin, though slightly different play styles.

[Epochalypse]

My first concern is whether Rex will be a positive locker room guy knowing he had probably his last shot to be a starter and now has to motivate himself to spend the rest of his days as a backup at best. The realization that he will probably never be a starter again may have a profound effect on him.

The other issue with Rex is that he is COMPLETELY different from what RGIII brings, so the offense would have to be drastically altered if RGIII goes out and Rex comes in. It may be better to find a QB that is similar in skillset to RGIII to minimize that impact.

That's why I voted to bring in another vet, possibly a Dennis Dixon or Josh Johnson type, someone who has some mobility and is not named John Beck.

[Ant15fromNJ]

Rex he can help RG3 grow and teach him.

[Boss_Hogg]

I voted Rex Grossman. He knows the system and has a good repor with several players.

Beck should go back to selling cars, dude does not belong in the NFL.

[J-bomb]

josh johnson qb from the bucs. Morris knows an likes him he would be the same type of qb as Rg3 can run same plays if our rookie eva gets hurt. Just like Rg3 he lead the ncaa in passing efficiency when harbaugh was his coach at san diego.

[terpskins10]

My first concern is whether Rex will be a positive locker room guy knowing he had probably his last shot to be a starter and now has to motivate himself to spend the rest of his days as a backup at best. The realization that he will probably never be a starter again may have a profound effect on him.


Honestly, Rex is a lot of things but one concern I'll never have about him is whether he's a good locker room guy. He's a professional and I think he'll do exactly what is best for the team.

[Wyvern]

I'd re-sign Grossman. I'd look at taking a flyer on either Dennis Dixon or Joshua Johnson as insurance.

I know everyone wants to see the rookie QB start, but unless the line is solid, I don't want to see the valuable "franchise-QB-in-waiting" getting the Patrick Ramsey/David Carr treatment. I'd rather have Rex or Dixon/Johnson in there -- until they stabilize the line.

[beachboy757]

I voted to re-sign Rex because of his familiarity with the system and his relationship with the players. Although, I can imagine how loud the RG3 chants will be if Rex is starting a game and throws an INT.

[dahibachi]

I voted to re-sign Rex because of his familiarity with the system and his relationship with the players. Although, I can imagine how loud the RG3 chants will be if Rex is starting a game and throws an INT.

I honestly believe that if RGIII does well enough in mini and training camp, he will be the starter in the first preseason game. You give up two firsts and a second, you get in the game from day one in my opinion.

also... Rex doesn't need to throw a pick for the RGIII chants to start... I'm willing to bet all he has to do is start the game.

[SKINS'n'Spurs]

Looks like most are voting the O.G. RGIII (ya, I mean Rex). It's just common sense. The guy seems to be a pretty competitive person who will give RGIII a good fight for the starting job; which is really all you can ask from a good back up. He's without a doubt the most practiced QB in Kyle's offense and should be able to pass on his experience to RGIII. I would hope he realizes that he's not earned the starting role from his performances the last two years and that he will have to work even harder if he wants another chance.
Obviously, I would prefer for him to ride the pine and give RGIII a full season to learn with real game time experience, he seems smart enough to learn the system before the opener.
Beck... where do you start... I'm not sure what his contract looks like but I would really like to not see him and his MacGruber mullet on the sidelines ever again.

[jivelikenice]

Don't want Rex here at ALL. Turnovers!!! A back-up qb needs to come in and run the offense and minimize mistakes.
Rex can't move which limits the rollouts.
He can't throw deep which limits the downfield game.
He turns the ball over twice a game
He thinks he should be the starter. It's not a bad trait but we're committed to RG3. Does Rex want to be a mentor or will he be a disruptive force?

Give me Josh Johnson or Dennis Dixon

[Fight4RGIII]

Chad Henne

[dahibachi]

Don't want Rex here at ALL. Turnovers!!! A back-up qb needs to come in and run the offense and minimize mistakes.
Rex can't move which limits the rollouts.
He can't throw deep which limits the downfield game.
He turns the ball over twice a game
He thinks he should be the starter. It's not a bad trait but we're committed to RG3. Does Rex want to be a mentor or will he be a disruptive force?

Give me Josh Johnson or Dennis Dixon

i don't think he'd be disruptive... he's used to being put on the bench. He's just got to accept he's a career backup/spot starter at best. I voted to keep him because I'd rather have a guy whos started quite a bit in the NFL and is familiar with the system. JJ and DD have relatively little NFL starting experience and don't know our system.

[Epochalypse]

Honestly, Rex is a lot of things but one concern I'll never have about him is whether he's a good locker room guy. He's a professional and I think he'll do exactly what is best for the team.

I was more concerned with his frame of mind, not whether he'd be a cancer in the locker room. I probably could have been more clear on that.

Agree, haven't heard anything about him being a disruption.

[sportjunkie07]

i think it's common to have a vet back up a rookie. perhaps rex would be as good a fit as any. im more interested in the third qb spot. we finally have our qb, now we can start developing a udfa so that we can eventually trade him. it's what teams with stability do, and it will be one way that we can gain some draft picks in the future. i rather not waste any picks on this backup though.

[Hitman21ST]

Kirk Cousins. May not be starter material, but he has a decent arm and looked ok in the limited time I watched him. Late round flyer

[s0crates]

Not sure if it has been said, but I think the poll should have an option for John Beck.

[PerryMason]

The original RG3 should be the backup.

[Leonard Washington]

I wouldn't be surprised if Rex starts. I would prefer if RGIII earned the job vs. inheriting it.

[S.T.real,lights,out]

Rex, he knows the system, knows what to do in the system, but for some reason just cant do it. I think he would help RGIII a lot.

[lavar1156]

What about Alex Smith? Obviously the 49ers will try to keep him, but if not he could be available.

[kbaxter34]

Rex needs to be the back up. As much as every one hates him he would be one of the better back ups in the league plus he knows the system. We then need to cut Beck and draft a project QB in the 7th or pick one up as a UDFA. Aaron Corp, Jacory Harris, and Dominique Davis are some rookie QBs I would look at to replace Beck

[Audible_Red40]

I voted #2 but I mean to click #1, duh. Rex would be an ok backup!

[TaylorPickSix]

I want Orton, but it'll probably be Rex.

[HogNose]

The other RG3 as backup and then draft Russell Wilson.

[balonywolf]

Russell would make a fine backup. Would be quite a coup if we got the two highest passer-rated QB's in college in the same draft. However, I agree Rex is a fine option to teach RGIII the system.

[MDTERPS27]

I really don't understand you people who think that the Redskins would sign Kyle Orton or any other random free agent QB for that matter over Rex Grossman who will be entering his 4th year in this offense. Do you guys honestly think that a free agent like Kyle Orton (who is going to start somewhere this year) would be a better choice than Rex for the backup/mentor to Griffin? When said free agent would not know the offense any better than the rookie?

Some of the ideas on here are really mind boggling. Rex Grossman is going to be re-signed, and he will start until Griffin proves he is ready. It's really that simple.

[Skinz4Life12]

rex is a perfect back up for the scheme we run

[icbmayday]

Rex is good a pure back up

[Redskins4ever]

If the Redskins don't resign Grossman to be RG3's back up, then they have to take a long hard look at Jonathan Crompton whom they signed from off of the practice squad after the season. Like Crompton, Beck is also under contract. But Crompton while inexperienced, is still young and would have time to develop even more by being given the assignment of back up QB.

[Stadium-Armory]

RG3 should be the back up.

[ChiefPowhatan17]

I think they should sign Brady Quinn as the back up.

[SkinzFan007]

Texans letting Leinart go apparently. Wouldnt hate to see him as backup since he has experience in the system.

[Skins199021]

Shaun Hill he is a solid backup

[elkabong82]

Texans letting Leinart go apparently. Wouldnt hate to see him as backup since he has experience in the system.

Agreed. He'd come relatively cheap I believe

[DameronSkins]

Dennis Dixon

[Durant35]

I like the idea of Josh Johnson or Russell Wilson. I think Dixon would be an option as well.

[rambler01]

Russell Wilson or Tim Tebow. Wilson was very accurate at Wisconsin and his mobile. Tebow with a little more nurturing could serve as a great backup/Wildcat option.

[pjfootballer]

Josh Johnson should be our back up quarterback...hes a 6-3 mobile quarterback with a strong arm. He is a free agent. John Harbaugh was his coach at San Diego State. He 32 touchdown and only 1 or none interceptions his senior year in college

This is my choice. Dennis Dixon is a run first QB. No thanks. Josh Johnson, like RG3 can at least throw the ball.

[DexterSackMachine]

Rex should be the backup as long as he is ok with it. Having around a QB with knowledge of the system will help speed up RG3's progression. Rex is a more than capable backup.

[pjfootballer]

Beck should never wear a Redskins - or any other NFL - jersey again.

I'd love him in a Dallass, Philthy or VaGiants uni.

[Truant]

Rex, Dixon, or Josh Johnson for me.

[NAC386]

I'd say Rex if I had to choose right now. It is VERY important that we have a competent back up quarterback now that we are getting RG3. RG3 doesn't have a horrible history of injuries and seems like a tough kid, but he is NOT built like Tebow and he is so fast he is bound to take some big hits from time to time. We have to make sure we don't turn out like Indianapolis did when Manning went down.

[tiger187126]

i'd rather have beck than rex. beck is everything you want in an NFL quarterback besides the talent to be an NFL quarterback. he's first one in, last one out, kind of guy who has a really good work ethic, stands up for the players around him, and has been nothing but praised by coaches for what he does off the field.

rex, well we all remember tubby rex showing up whenever in a contract year and throwing teammates under the bus.

i would prefer someone else completely in case they actually have to play, but if RGIII is your day 1 starter i want someone to show him the work he needs to put in like beck.

(btw, i am well aware RGIII isn't jamarcus and has many of the traits i like about beck when it comes to work, i just think rex is a bad influence and was bad for the locker room last year)

[El-Rey]

I think we should go for Wilson or Moore in the late rounds, have them learn the system in conjunction with RG3 and develop simultaneously. Then, we will have a young, reliable backup who can either help us if RG3 gets hurt, or be attractive trade bait down the line (see Matt Flynn).

[Redskins4ever]

Grossman should be the back up QB only because he's earned it. He served as McNabb's back up in 2010 so he's done it before. But if the Redskins ever entertained a second option it should be to upgrade the back up position as well by bringing in a Kyle Orton. But unless Grossman signs elsewhere, which I doubt he will because very few teams would want him, I can see him re-signing with the Redskins.

[worstSeat]

Yep, Rex has a 70% chance of coming in and looking like a starter if Griffin goes down. And a 30% chance of imploding. But it's that NFL starter play 70% of the time and his knowledge of House Shanahan that says keep him.

[Crazy Levi]

I don't like the idea of bringing in Orton at all. He'll cost a lot more $ than Grossman and isn't worth it. I'm not convinced he's an upgrade.

Grossman 4 Life!

---------- Post added March-13th-2012 at 09:17 PM ----------


i'd rather have beck than rex. beck is everything you want in an NFL quarterback besides the talent to be an NFL quarterback. he's first one in, last one out, kind of guy who has a really good work ethic, stands up for the players around him, and has been nothing but praised by coaches for what he does off the field.

rex, well we all remember tubby rex showing up whenever in a contract year and throwing teammates under the bus.
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Are you insane?

Like Billy Kilmer was always in top physical condition.

Beck has NO TALENT. He lost his job in Miami to Cleo Lemon.

CLEO LEMON. Beck sucks, and should be cut immediately. Or not re-signed. Or deported. I have no idea his current status with the team.

Grossman may not have the abs but he has the guts. Keep him around.

[HailGreen28]

Vote Sexy. Vote Rexy.

Whoever our #3 QB is, can be a developmental project.

[Redskins4ever]

Vote Sexy. Vote Rexy.

Whoever our #3 QB is, can be a developmental project.

The #3 QB will be Jonathan Crompton. And yes, he is a developmental project/prospect. He was our practice squad QB last year.

[skins2victory]

The rex cannon for the #2 spot!!!

[mojo]

REX...I love the guy when I'm not hating him.

[MDTERPS27]

i'd rather have beck than rex. beck is everything you want in an NFL quarterback besides the talent to be an NFL quarterback. he's first one in, last one out, kind of guy who has a really good work ethic, stands up for the players around him, and has been nothing but praised by coaches for what he does off the field.

rex, well we all remember tubby rex showing up whenever in a contract year and throwing teammates under the bus.

i would prefer someone else completely in case they actually have to play, but if RGIII is your day 1 starter i want someone to show him the work he needs to put in like beck.

(btw, i am well aware RGIII isn't jamarcus and has many of the traits i like about beck when it comes to work, i just think rex is a bad influence and was bad for the locker room last year)

Do you care to explain how Rex was "a bad influence and was bad for the locker room?"

It seems to me that you have no idea what you're talking about. Rex is an absolute professional, and very well liked by the players and coaching staff... You just can't get over your strange hatred for him so you make things up. I think it is nothing short of hilarious that you think Beck is or ever was better at anything related to football than Rex.

[Bacon]

If we can keep Rex for cheap (WE CAN'T), we would be foolish to look elsewhere. He's won us, a, uh, a few games here and there, and he knows the system. He's a very good backup, and a C or C- starter.

[NLC1054]

If we can keep Rex for cheap (WE CAN'T), we would be foolish to look elsewhere. He's won us, a, uh, a few games here and there, and he knows the system. He's a very good backup, and a C or C- starter.

Why can't we keep him cheaply?

Even Rex said that last season when the lockout was lifted, he didn't get a single phone call. No one's going to be wired to sign Rex, at least not for substantially more than we'd be willing to sign him.

[D-Day]

Well, considering we are changing the offense considerably with the addition of all these speed guys and RG3. We should find similar QB's in the draft or FA that are RG3ish to be the backups.

Will be more cap friendly to boot, and saves us from getting in a bidding war for a player that may never see the field.

[BuddyLeeGhostHunter]

Mr. Curtis Painter, of course.

[Bacon]

Why can't we keep him cheaply?

Even Rex said that last season when the lockout was lifted, he didn't get a single phone call. No one's going to be wired to sign Rex, at least not for substantially more than we'd be willing to sign him.

Is that so? I assumed he had it in his head that he could start somewhere.

The market is saturated right now. Why pick up Grossman with such a strong draft class?

[Redskins4ever]

The Redskins have no clear back up QB currently. While re-signing Rex Grossman is not a priority and while he has earned it, I say the Redskins should still look elsewhere. Matt Leinart, who played in a similar offense in Houston, was released before free agency. The Redskins front office were interested in Leinart last off season. Shouldn't they do the same this off season also, seeing as though he's no longer under contract and is thus a free agent? While the Redskins look to Kyle Orton, John Beck, who I doubt will be with the Redskins by opening day of week 1, is another option. What about young practice QB Jonathan Crompton? A back up QB hole is much simpler to fill than a starting QB spot.

[LaRonDontLikeUgly]

Rex at #2, David Garrard as #3 in a mentor role for the young RG3

[seantaylor=god]

I'd be fine with Orton, Garrard, Grossman, etc. I think we should draft a raw athletic type in the 7th too for our #3.

[wilburmarshall]

Should be Rex, unless Manning changes his mind after seeing our new WR corps! Ha-ha. Not sure if Rex would want to come in as a backup.

[skinsmarydu]

Friend of mine & I were discussing this yesterday, right after we got Garcon. He seems to believe that Griffin will be our starter. I said, "not so fast", not all fantastic college QBs can adapt to the pro game that quickly, especially considering how much faster the NFL is. (Even Peyton said so, many years ago.) And I agree, Rexy should be resigned. Anybody know if we're gonna keep Gaffney now?

[Missouri_Skins_Fan]

Don't know if Shanny will do it, but I would carry 3 QB's for the time being.

I would re-sign Rex
Still start our boy RG3
and maybe draft a late rd prospect. (Rex's eventual replacement once he learns playbook)
(or bring up Crompton if he's ready & any good)

If we did draft another QB, I wouldn't do it any higher than the 5th rd.
Unless there's just an obvious steal in the 4th that fits scheme. (as we have 2)

I'd prefer to draft a QB that has similar traits of RG3. (like Minnesota's Webb)
So the offense can stay in rhythm, even during practice.

[skinfan57]

Since Orton's out of the picture, I'm voting for Rex. He knows the system. Cut Beck and draft someone like Weeden.

[terpskins10]

Cut Beck and draft someone like Weeden.

Weeden is going to be a likely second or third round pick.

Our best chance at a late-round quality backup is Russell Wilson, IMO.

[SAP_Pete]

Anybody not named Beck or Grossman. Make Banks backup QB for all I care.

[Lombardi's_kid_brother]

Beck = starter.
RGIII sits for maybe three years and learns at the master's feet.

[HailGreen28]

Beck = starter.
RGIII sits for maybe three years and learns at the master's feet.Good one. :ols:
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---------- Post added March-14th-2012 at 04:43 PM ----------


I'd prefer to draft a QB that has similar traits of RG3. (like Minnesota's Webb)
So the offense can stay in rhythm, even during practice.To you and others saying this, great point about QB traits, I disagree about drafting another QB this season unless Shanny gets a Brady-like steal late in the draft.

[mojo]

Beck = starter.
RGIII sits for maybe three years and learns at the master's feet.

I like it. Maybe Beck can break RG3 of that annoying habit of throwing the ball 10 yards past the line of scrimmage.

[G.A.C.O.L.B.]

Count me in for Beck. He's already under contract. We won't have to eat any dead money by cutting him. And we're obviously going all in on RGIII, so **** it, let's really go all in.

[MDTERPS27]

Count me in for Beck. He's already under contract. We won't have to eat any dead money by cutting him. And we're obviously going all in on RGIII, so **** it, let's really go all in.

What does the fact that we're going all in on Griffin have to do with finding a backup? I don't see the connection there. What happens if god forbid Griffin gets hurt? We put Beck in there and wonder what type of embarrassing franchise record is going to be broken? Doesn't seem like a well thought out plan.

[G.A.C.O.L.B.]

What does the fact that we're going all in on Griffin have to do with finding a backup? I don't see the connection there. What happens if god forbid Griffin gets hurt? We put Beck in there and wonder what type of embarrassing franchise record is going to be broken? Doesn't seem like a well thought out plan.

It was partly sarcastic. Not a real argument anyway

I do think there's something to Beck already being signed and on the roster though. I wouldn't be shocked if he's kept and that's one of the big reasons for it. Plus he seems more like the "put the rook under his arm and help him learn" type guy than Rex.

[blindlywewander]

I can't believe anyone wants to see Rex or Beck back next year. I have already wiped the quarterback play last year from my memory. Rex knows the system, but we can't win with him. Beck looked horrible when he played. They are marked off my list.

Bring in someone else. I'd even draft a guy before going after Rex or Beck again.

[MDTERPS27]

It was partly sarcastic. Not a real argument anyway

I do think there's something to Beck already being signed and on the roster though. I wouldn't be shocked if he's kept and that's one of the big reasons for it. Plus he seems more like the "put the rook under his arm and help him learn" type guy than Rex.

You're right about all the aspects of Beck being very cost effective and convenient, however the concern is that he would be a massive liability. He showed nothing last year to prove he belongs on an NFL roster. I think bringing Rex back for his 4th year under Kyle Shanahan is the best option. He will have no problem tutoring the young RG3 because he knows he's one play away from being starter again.

[RWJ]

If Manning goes to the Titans and they cut Hassellback sign him as backup.

[Roscoe 12oz]

Matt Leinart

[blindlywewander]

If Manning goes to the Titans and they cut Hassellback sign him as backup.

I would love this. I'm a huge fan of Hasselbeck.

[terpskins10]

I would love this. I'm a huge fan of Hasselbeck.

I like the idea too but I think he'll be looking for a good amount of money. We'd have to wait until he didn't have any other opportunities to compete for the starting job.

[Kosher Ham]

I think it will be Matt Leinart.

[pjfootballer]

If Manning goes to the Titans and they cut Hassellback sign him as backup.

I was thinking about that last night. Dump Beck, don't re-sign Grossman and keep Crompton at 3.

---------- Post added March-15th-2012 at 09:14 AM ----------


Matt Leinart

Although I don't think there is any problem with a left handed QB (some say the rotation bothers receivers, but my college friend was a lefty and the combination of him and I were deadly in the sandlot), it does change things on rollouts, which is a BIG staple of our offense. Plus, your RT has to be as good as your LT covering the blindside. I'd rather stick with rightys. I'm righty biased.

---------- Post added March-15th-2012 at 09:16 AM ----------


To you and others saying this, great point about QB traits, I disagree about drafting another QB this season unless Shanny gets a Brady-like steal late in the draft.

I agree with you. I don't want another Shuler/Frerotte (not to say that another QB in the draft will be as good as RG3), but I'm not sure if Webb is available. I'd like to sign a guy like Josh Johnson if we go the route of getting a backup with similar traits.

[HailGreen28]

Anybody not named Beck or Grossman. Make Banks backup QB for all I care. lol well banks' td percentage is pretty good.

[Hooper]

Matt Leinart stinks. Has the same problem Beck does -- doesn't trust his downfield accuracy so he checks down all the time. If it's Leinart or Beck, I would take Beck hands down -- at least he knows the offense. Plus watching RG3 air it out in camp while Beck throws horizontally will be hilarious.

I think Rex makes the most sense -- for all his flaws, he is capable of winning games and has an aggressive mentality the Shannys love. And he won't need any reps to learn the offense.

---------- Post added March-15th-2012 at 04:39 PM ----------


Kirk Cousins. May not be starter material, but he has a decent arm and looked ok in the limited time I watched him. Late round flyer

Kirk Cousins will not last past round two. Coaches fell in love with him at the combine and he's going to keep rising the closer we get to draft. Might be the first QB off the board after Tannehill.

[texasthunder]

Free agent David Garrard has reiterated he's willing to accept a backup job.
"David informed me not to turn down any team's inquiry," his player rep told MLive.com. "He wants to examine every situation. He is open to compete for a starting job, assume the starting job, or backup the current starter." Garrard's agent expects him to become a "hot quarterback" once Peyton Manning is off the market. Garrard will be limited to backup offers after sitting out the entire 2011 season with back issues.

Source: MLive.c

This would be my choice.
AFAIK, he does not have any off field issues, should be a good role model for RGIII, and I would trust him more then Grossman.

[Hooper]

rex, well we all remember tubby rex showing up whenever in a contract year and throwing teammates under the bus.

i like about beck when it comes to work, i just think rex is a bad influence and was bad for the locker room last year)

Hilarious. First of all, Rex knows the offense backwards and forwards -- he may not look like it, but Kyle will tell you that Rex is a student of the game. And ask any of the insiders on the board what the players think of Rex vs Beck. The locker room LOVES Rex. Seriously, have you ever seen players rush to the defense of a more mediocre QB?

And he's been pretty much fat since he came into the league.

Rex or Beck will be back. If it's Beck, it's because he has a contract. But Shanny doesn't want to have to teach a rookie and a vet the offense. Only so many reps to go around.

[Mad Mike]

I think Rex makes the most sense -- for all his flaws, he is capable of winning games and has an aggressive mentality the Shannys love. And he won't need any reps to learn the offense.

That last part is the key. I want the coaches putting all of their time and effort into getting Griffin up to speed. If anything, just bring in someone for the practice squad to develop for next year.

[MrJL]

[QUOTE=Hooper;8891631]Matt Leinart stinks. Has the same problem Beck does -- doesn't trust his downfield accuracy so he checks down all the time. If it's Leinart or Beck, I would take Beck hands down -- at least he knows the offense. Plus watching RG3 air it out in camp while Beck throws horizontally will be hilarious.

I think Rex makes the most sense -- for all his flaws, he is capable of winning games and has an aggressive mentality the Shannys love. And he won't need any reps to learn the offense.[COLOR="Gold"]

I'd be happy to re-sign Rex but Lienart probably has some idea of the offense, coming from a season in Houston

[diesel22]

Anyone consider Hasselbeck? You would have to think if 18 goes to Titans, they will obviously hold on to Locker, leaving Matt the odd man out.

[Gibbs Hog Heaven]

And ask any of the insiders on the board what the players think of Rex vs Beck. The locker room LOVES Rex. Seriously, have you ever seen players rush to the defense of a more mediocre QB?


Mercifully, both Shanahan's patience would appear to of been fully exasperated to the point of falling OUT of love with him if their complete 360 from talking him right up to then openly criticising him on a weekly basis at the end of the season is anything to go by.

I'll be shocked if he gets renewed. Knowing the system doesn't amount to a hill of beans when you can't execute it to it's full extent for boneheaded mistakes nine drives out of ten.

Put me down in the "ANYBODY but Interceptus Rexus" camp. (J. Beck Esq. excepted.).

Hail.

[blindlywewander]

Anyone consider Hasselbeck? You would have to think if 18 goes to Titans, they will obviously hold on to Locker, leaving Matt the odd man out.

yep.. like 5 or 6 posts up :)

[J-bomb]

Free agent David Garrard has reiterated he's willing to accept a backup job.
"David informed me not to turn down any team's inquiry," his player rep told MLive.com. "He wants to examine every situation. He is open to compete for a starting job, assume the starting job, or backup the current starter." Garrard's agent expects him to become a "hot quarterback" once Peyton Manning is off the market. Garrard will be limited to backup offers after sitting out the entire 2011 season with back issues.

Source: MLive.c

This would be my choice.
AFAIK, he does not have any off field issues, should be a good role model for RGIII, and I would trust him more then Grossman.

I like the idea of Garrard being RG3 backup, him or Josh Johnson will do! No to Rex-n-Beck!

[HailSkins83]

I like the idea of Garrard being RG3 backup, him or Josh Johnson will do! No to Rex-n-Beck!

My feelings also, I tweeted Garrard yesterday and asked how he would feel about backing backing up RG3 in DC... No response... I would also like to see Garrard, Josh Johnson, or Dennis Dixon backing up RG3... If we are going to taylor our offense around a speedy QB like RG3, it seems like Johnson and Dixon would fit that scheme well.

[SWFLSkins]

I like the idea of Garrard being RG3 backup, him or Josh Johnson will do! No to Rex-n-Beck!

One thought though, Grossman or Beck know the playbook better and could teach it easier however that has to be weighed with possibly seeing playing time.

[Gibbs Hog Heaven]

One thought though, Grossman or Beck know the playbook better and could teach it easier however that has to be weighed with possibly seeing playing time.

If Grossman or Beck are teaching the playbook to whomever the new QB is, and not the Coaches, then we have big problems.

Hail.

[J-bomb]

If Grossman or Beck are teaching the playbook to whomever the new QB is, and not the Coaches, then we have big problems.

Hail.

+1

I don't want RG3 learning how to do anything form those 2! Let the coaches earn there money....

[redskinss]

I don't think Grossman is capable of elevating the talent level and confidence of those around him bit I think if our starter (presumably rg3) does then I honestly believe Grossman can come in and perform much better than he has because the team will have gained some confidence and momentum.

[Ant15fromNJ]

Its has to be Rexy he knows the offense and is a vet.

[diesel22]

yep.. like 5 or 6 posts up :)

Sorry bout that! Think it would be an interesting scenario

[texasthunder]

One thought though, Grossman or Beck know the playbook better and could teach it easier however that has to be weighed with possibly seeing playing time.

While I can see your point, and it may be aventageous for that to happen.
You also have to concider that RGIII is coming in as the future, he is also going to be in compettion with Beck and Grossman.

If my coach/manager brings in somebody that is more then likely my replacement, and he wants me to help him learn the plays, I dont
know how much enthusiasm I would have in that case. May even teach the rookie some of the bad things. :evilg:

[SWFLSkins]

If Grossman or Beck are teaching the playbook to whomever the new QB is, and not the Coaches, then we have big problems.

Hail.

GHH, the backup would not be the primary teacher but certainly assist in nuances of the offense and what a coach is looking for in certain situations. And the Skins do have big problems, new receivers, new QB and if a veteran that has played in this offense would make the transition easier it must be weighed in the decision whether they are a competent back up. I am all for having Rex be third string and a QB coach player.[COLOR="Gold"]

[Charlied72]

I highly doubt they will bring back rex....

[BleedBNG]

I wouldn't mind keeping Rex for another year. In fact, I wouldn't mind him starting this year. It won't be long until he screws up and then we can ease RGIII as the permanent starter. Who knows, it could be after game 1. But let him play until bad Rex shows up. If the staff sees a good backup QB prospect in the later rounds of the draft... go for it. Why hasn't Beck been cut by now?

[MDTERPS27]

Looks like this is a closed case. Shouldn't be a big surprise to anyone with any reason or sense about them.

[DogofWar1]

If we use basic math, we're clearly the best team ever now.

Rex Grossman 3rd + Robert Griffin 3rd = Rex Griffin the 6th!

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Bow before his superior touchdown throwing power!

[J-bomb]

Like tweets say they brought rex back so they can focus on teachn Rg3 the O an give him the reps. Rex dont need reps since he knws the O an the coaches dont have to take time away from Rg3 to worry about the backup. Still didnt want him back but I undestand why an will live with it!

[BadKarma]

Skins obviously didn't hear Mark Brunell was available.

[NattyBo]

Rex Grossman (III) can mentor RG3 in the George Costanza way.

"Now, Robert - you see Rex? Whatever he does - do the opposite, and you'll be awesome."

[DexterSackMachine]

Bringing in another backup would have made no sense. The Redskins did the right thing.

RG3 is probably hoping that Rex starts the first game, which will make anything he does after that look all the better.

[ClemsSC7Skinfan]

It all but assures us that RG3 will start the entire season (in case you really thought otherwise prior to this signing)

[thefez]

You Rex guys are out of your minds... I don't want him anywhere near RG3 or this team. Cut both those clowns and bring in someone that gives us a chance in the event RG3 goes down.

I have a feeling their gonna keep Sexy... big, big, mistake IMO

[skinsfan_1215]

I have a feeling their gonna keep Sexy... big, big, mistake IMO

i have a feeling that you are correct, they will keep ole rexy.

---------- Post added March-17th-2012 at 11:01 PM ----------

For the record, I support resigning Rex in a back up role. Back up QBs need to be 2 things: cheap, and able to run your offense. After last year, Rex will be cheap. And he knows the offense. There was never a reason to not bring him back. He's not a mentor for rg3. He's a backup. That's all. Leave the teaching to the coaches.

[james62]

I know I will probably catch heat for this but I would have taken Mcnab back if You want someone to teach RG3 I think He is a better choice. He is not what He used to be but they both have similiar styles

[Stophovr6]

I know I will probably catch heat for this but I would have taken Mcnab back if You want someone to teach RG3 I think He is a better choice. He is not what He used to be but they both have similiar styles

That feeling you had about catching heat, do you know why that was? Because deep down inside you knew it to be a dumb idea. I hope to god Griffin doesn't learn a damn thing from McNabb. Macnabb never learned the system, he refused to even wear a wristband to help him out. He was HORRIBLE in two minute drills and Rex Grossman showed him up at the end of his short lived time here.

[Skins3000]

i have a feeling that you are correct, they will keep ole rexy.

---------- Post added March-17th-2012 at 11:01 PM ----------

For the record, I support resigning Rex in a back up role. Back up QBs need to be 2 things: cheap, and able to run your offense. After last year, Rex will be cheap. And he knows the offense. There was never a reason to not bring him back. He's not a mentor for rg3. He's a backup. That's all. Leave the teaching to the coaches.

Well they kept the Sex Cannon and I for one is against it completely.

[-JB-]

Seximus Reximus. Obviously. He knows the system & is a quality backup. We all know hes not starting material.

[SkinsFTW]

I know I will probably catch heat for this but I would have taken Mcnab back if You want someone to teach RG3 I think He is a better choice. He is not what He used to be but they both have similiar styles

This is right up there on the list of dumbest ideas ever. :notworthy

It's like brining in Michael Westbrook to be our new WR coach or even bringing back Laron Landry as the head of the training staff.

:chair:

[Burgold]

Rex was the right choice... unless you could have gotten Hasslebeck or you wanted to take another flier on Beck. You don't want to coach all your qbs up from zero. There's no point of having a back up who's clueless in the system if the starter is too.

Rex as a spot starter is okay. Hopefully, the conditioning staff can get on his butt and improve his arm strength by ten percent or so. Those floaters and short balls killed us. As for his mistakes, that's why he ain't a starter and was available.

[DexterSackMachine]

I know I will probably catch heat for this but I would have taken Mcnab back if You want someone to teach RG3 I think He is a better choice. He is not what He used to be but they both have similiar styles
You mean the same McNabb who wanted out of Minnesotta as soon as he wasn't the starter anymore rather than be a mentor to Ponder? Is that the McNabb you are talking about? Because that guy's ego is bigger than the collective ego of the Shannys, but unlike the Shannahi, he doesn't have the work ethic to match.

[ciresolstice]

They did the right thing even if it's hard to swallow. Rookie QB coming in...it's nice to have a vet that knows the offense to aid in that transition. I bombed Rex to a degree in another thread, but at the same time understand the decision made and why.

[washedup2]

Now with Manning in Denver, trade for Tebow for a 7th round pick. 3rd QB and Hback. Would fit our O scheme.

[kobra860]

I know I will probably catch heat for this but I would have taken Mcnab back if You want someone to teach RG3 I think He is a better choice. He is not what He used to be but they both have similiar styles

He's never coming back here. He was made into a scapegoat and was disrespected by the coaching staff. It would have been an ideal situation to have McNabb mentor RG3 but now it's never going to happen.


Seximus Reximus. Obviously. He knows the system & is a quality backup. We all know hes not starting material.

He's not a good backup either. I still think it's a miracle that he managed to get to a Super Bowl but that's just a testament to how good the Bears' defense was that year. If he was a somewhat competent QB, the Bears would have won the Super Bowl that year.

[Epochalypse]

He's never coming back here. He was made into a scapegoat and was disrespected by the coaching staff. It would have been an ideal situation to have McNabb mentor RG3 but now it's never going to happen.

McNabb made himself a scapegoat. He had zero work ethic, why would you want him anywhere near RGIII?

After seeing how he did here and in Minnesota and then getting released and not picked up, how can you still think this?

[kobra860]

McNabb made himself a scapegoat. He had zero work ethic, why would you want him anywhere near RGIII?

After seeing how he did here and in Minnesota and then getting released and not picked up, how can you still think this?

When he came to Washington, the coaches were trying too hard to change his mechanics which didn't make sense because he was a proven winner on the Eagles. Minnesota had a lot of problems that went beyond just the QB position so we can't solely blame him for their bad record.

[JoeKnowsBest]

I like the idea of Rex and Tebow as the backups. There's so much Shanny can do with tebow in his system as a situational player, and he fits an offensive style that would be run by RGIII!

[Epochalypse]

When he came to Washington, the coaches were trying too hard to change his mechanics which didn't make sense because he was a proven winner on the Eagles. Minnesota had a lot of problems that went beyond just the QB position so we can't solely blame him for their bad record.

They were trying to make him learn our system so that all the new pieces on offense could learn it. By failing to change or work hard, he ceased to be of any use to the Redskins other than holding up the development of our young guys. That is why Rex replaced him, because Rex ran the correct system and improved the other players chances of progressing in that system.

McNabb did not.

---------- Post added March-19th-2012 at 12:14 PM ----------


I like the idea of Rex and Tebow as the backups. There's so much Shanny can do with tebow in his system as a situational player, and he fits an offensive style that would be run by RGIII!

Tebow isn't worth the parade that follows him.

I have a lot of respect for his beliefs, but we don't need that circus here.

[mojo]

When he came to Washington, the coaches were trying too hard to change his mechanics which didn't make sense because he was a proven winner on the Eagles. Minnesota had a lot of problems that went beyond just the QB position so we can't solely blame him for their bad record.

The guy was benched at his last two stops for being lazy, that's on record by both head coaches.

Whatever he got, he brought on himself. If he's so great, there are still a lot of teams that need QB's and I haven't heard his name mentioned...

[Passizle]

I cant vote until CB5 is part of the RG3 solution poll!