View Full Version : Aurora Conspiracy: Gas Mask Location Spawns Predictable Internet Speculation...
Fergasun
July-27th-2012, 10:26 AM
As we've typically experienced with the American tragedy, no sooner than the event happens, people come out of the woodwork claiming "conspiracy", "false flag", etc. I don't want to re-hash those old debates in this thread... but it can't be denied. There is always one fact or report, that causes the conspiracy's minded brain to race and hyperventilate as if it has discovered a gold-mine.
In the case of the Aurora shootings two items stood out in the first hours of reporting:
1) The location of the gas mask.
2) The report of a white and blue plaid shirted suspect.
Since that time, more "facts" come out which don't "square up". The facial hair in the booking photo; the notebook/journal that was sent (why was it stuck in the mail room conveniently?), the police radio recordings, the fact that the picture of the AR-15 shows it with a clip in it and not a drum magazine, that police were reporting multiple clips in the theater, ... none of the information that has seen the light of day since the shooting "square up" with the official lone-nut job-gunman. He must've been drugged, and dumped in the car while another professional came in and made the hit. But why? Well, something about his dad designing a number of algorithms used in the banking system and getting ready to testify in Congress in the next month, which will take the banks down or something like that.
I don't understand it. I'm as intrigued by the gas mask location (if that is Holmes gas mask and not LEO)... but willing to wait for the trial to hear everything and see how the facts line up. Of course, if you don't believe the basis of the "facts", everything else can be twisted around.
So, I don't believe in any of this BS; but I am posting because I want folks to see how early this type of conspiracy theory starts up. Don't be surprised for these folks (who are really entitled to hold whatever opinion on things they want to) to show up in the threads on this story... as sad as it may seem.
Kilmer17
July-27th-2012, 10:31 AM
What's the deal with the gas mask?
Maximus71
July-27th-2012, 10:36 AM
Bush did it..
Toe Jam
July-27th-2012, 10:38 AM
I hate conspiracy theories.
Hersh
July-27th-2012, 10:39 AM
Bush did it..
This time is was Cheney.
GhostofSparta
July-27th-2012, 10:43 AM
Damn Illuminaughty Build-a-Bearers. Always conspiring to do things.
Botched
July-27th-2012, 10:48 AM
If you remove the 'u', the word Aurora is a palindrome. Think about it.
Park City Skins
July-27th-2012, 10:53 AM
Lord I despise a lot of this conspiracy crap. Did a quick search and of course,came up with one from here.
http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/crime/item/12202-aurora-shooting-questions-still-remain
:doh: Some people really can be stupid until proven otherwise.
youngchew
July-27th-2012, 10:54 AM
If you remove the 'u', the word Aurora is a palindrome. Think about it.
oh.....my....GOD
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6yvhgBLnG1qk8zxso1_250.gif
armstrong001
July-27th-2012, 10:57 AM
This time is was Cheney.
Yeah, Cheney is the one with the record of shooting people. He's the more experienced shooter.
Dan T.
July-27th-2012, 11:33 AM
What's the deal with the gas mask?
Google search turned up this. http://willyloman.wordpress.com/2012/07/22/aurora-massacre-what-does-the-location-of-the-gas-mask-tell-us-what-about-security-cameras-are-they-related/
It's a Loose Change style questioning of evidence. It is painfully stupid to read. Photos show that the gas mask the shooter used was found further away from his car than other stuff he dropped or took off. From this minor fact comes a ridiculous extrapolation that Holmes was a dupe - drugged while out drinking, kept drugged while his place is booby trapped, then driven unconscious to the theater and left in his car while the real shooter enters the theater and shoots everybody. Real shooter runs out of theater, throws guns in Holmes' car, strips off mask as he runs away. Holmes, groggy, awakens in time to be nabbed by the cops.
It might be the stupidest conspiracy I've ever read. Not even Ken would buy into it.
China
July-27th-2012, 11:42 AM
Well Aurora means dawn. It's obvious this town was specifically chosen as this act was intended to signal "the dawn" of a new era.
mistertim
July-27th-2012, 12:06 PM
2) The report of a white and blue plaid shirted suspect.
For years now everyone has ridiculed my "Men In Plaid" theories. Now who is the idiot?
Jumbo
July-27th-2012, 12:21 PM
For years now everyone has ridiculed my "Men In Plaid" theories. Now who is the idiot?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixAyGhUgr0E
Toe Jam
July-27th-2012, 12:25 PM
I listened to the scanner traffic live that night. An officer did indeed call in a description of a possible suspect wearing a plaid shirt, but that was still in the initial chaos. The officer even said he was hearing conflicting information but when you're in a situation like this one, you have to call in everything. That's just from my experience in working with law enforcement over the last year and a half.
But what do I know?
A big to do over nothing IMO.
f_trizzy
July-27th-2012, 12:33 PM
Funny, just yesterday I was reading how Holmes was an MK Ultra subject...
Kilmer17
July-27th-2012, 01:16 PM
I'll wait for Ken to chime in.
Maybe the real shooter used secret super nano sulfur thermite, which will prove it all.
Predicto
July-27th-2012, 01:35 PM
It might be the stupidest conspiracy I've ever read. Not even Ken would buy into it.
Errr... you sure?
unsonny
July-27th-2012, 02:06 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=5VcSwejU2D0#!
dont worry citizens the government will protect you.....be afraid!!!! - obey
Park City Skins
July-27th-2012, 04:33 PM
Errr... you sure?
Good question. I'll believe that when I see it. :)
Mr. Sinister
July-27th-2012, 04:47 PM
I'm sure shapeshifting Reptilian overlords are somehow involved in this as well.
China
July-27th-2012, 05:04 PM
I'll wait for Ken to chime in.
Maybe the real shooter used secret super nano sulfur thermite, which will prove it all.
You're not fooling anyone Remlik. As our resident Illuminati member we can't really believe anything you say on the subject.
Mad Mike
July-28th-2012, 09:35 AM
Lord I despise a lot of this conspiracy crap. Did a quick search and of course,came up with one from here.
http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/crime/item/12202-aurora-shooting-questions-still-remain
:doh: Some people really can be stupid until proven otherwise.
thenewamerican.com.... I guess the new America is ruled by stupidity. Wait, didn't they make a movie about that already?
http://thebenshi.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/idiocracy-20070215034132608_640w.jpg
Toe Jam
July-28th-2012, 09:59 AM
^Who is the girl?!?!
HeluCopter29
July-28th-2012, 10:04 AM
I hate conspiracy theories.
I hate conspiracy threads.
HogNose
July-28th-2012, 10:15 AM
Then there is the FBI roll call warning on May 17th warning of theater attacks. Yes it must be a conspiracy!!
http://www.sott.net/articles/show/248527-FBI-and-DHS-Warned-in-May-of-Terrorists-Planning-to-Attack-Movie-Theaters
http://www.sott.net/image/image/s5/108595/full/FBI_Terror_Warning_US_Theaters.jpg
Ken
July-28th-2012, 01:04 PM
Good question. I'll believe that when I see it. :)
Haha...you would have been wrong.
Ya, i'm not ready to say definitely a conspiracy, but it is sure looking like one.
There is a UN Arms Treaty that Obama is set to sign in the next two weeks which effectively would ban semi-automatic guns for anyone but law enforcement. This is the perfect high profile case to swing public sentiment to banning them because of the sensationalist media coverage of the event. It clearly has impacted how this site views guns.
Here are the things that make me doubt this happened the way we are told:
*multiple eye witness reports of multiple gunman or accomplices. In addiiton, witness said the shooter was more muscle bound than holmes.
*Holmes was under the 'care' of a former air force psychiatrist. Lends well to the MK Ultra theory.
*Holmes was clearly drugged up during his arraignment. CLEARLY. Remember Sirhan Sirhan? He acted the same way....
* Why would Holmes, who supposedly just shot up a theater, tell the police of the booby trap at his apartment. Seems pretty inconsistent with the deranged killer he is painted as.
* How does a nuero student rig a booby trap sophisticated enough for it to take experts days to disarm?
* Why would he just go stand by his car and wait to be arrested if he was so ready to kill so many and took precautions against being shot with all of the gear he had on? Just doesn't make any sense.
* The way the national media seized on the story and immediately started calling for a gun ban. Seems scripted...as usual.
Again, not saying definitely...but it is sure looking that it was staged.
Mad Mike
July-28th-2012, 02:07 PM
^ Un-******* believable. :doh:
WALL-LE
July-28th-2012, 02:31 PM
^ u act like governments don't lie to its people???
really?
don't be so quick to dismiss it, wouldn't put it past them
Jumbo
July-28th-2012, 02:43 PM
http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s107/jumboskins/keannumeme2.jpg
Ken
July-28th-2012, 02:52 PM
^ Un-******* believable. :doh:
It is isn't it?
http://edition.cnn.com/2011/11/26/justice/california-sirhan-rfk/index.html
Looks like it is from the same playbook to me.
Toe Jam
July-28th-2012, 02:54 PM
This thread is finally going places.
Jumbo
July-28th-2012, 03:06 PM
http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s107/jumboskins/keannumeme2-1.jpg
Mad Mike
July-28th-2012, 03:17 PM
^ u act like governments don't lie to its people???
really?
don't be so quick to dismiss it, wouldn't put it past them
How can I dismiss such an eloquent argument.
Oh that's right, I have a brain. :ols:
Ken
July-28th-2012, 03:18 PM
How can I dismiss such an eloquent argument.
Oh that's right, I have a brain. :ols:
Of course...you also believe the Alfred P. Murrah building was blown up by a Ryder truck full of fertilizer...so....take it for what it is worth.
jly0784
July-28th-2012, 03:32 PM
ahhh the resident nut jobs are out now.... why cant it simply be a guy went crazy? why does it always end up being a conspiracy?
Ken
July-28th-2012, 03:34 PM
ahhh the resident nut jobs are out now.... why cant it simply be a guy went crazy? why does it always end up being a conspiracy?
I would be fine with that...problem is it is trying to be used to restrict gun rights or get rid of them all together.
Kilmer17
July-28th-2012, 04:07 PM
Of course...you also believe the Alfred P. Murrah building was blown up by a Ryder truck full of fertilizer...so....take it for what it is worth.
Wait....
What?
PLEASEPLEASEPLEASEPLEASE start a thread about that.
Pretty please........
No Excuses
July-28th-2012, 04:14 PM
This is Ken:
http://duasounove.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/master-troll-e1301323817393.jpg
I refuse to believe someone can legitimately believe in this much bat **** crazy nonsense.
Ken
July-28th-2012, 04:17 PM
Wait....
What?
PLEASEPLEASEPLEASEPLEASE start a thread about that.
Pretty please........
Its been discussed.
You believe the building was blown out from the middle from a truck filled with fertilizer?
---------- Post added July-28th-2012 at 04:19 PM ----------
This is Ken:
I refuse to believe someone can legitimately believe in this much bat **** crazy nonsense.
Live and learn young man. Live and learn..... When I was 22, I believed it too. History books wouldn't lie would they?
Mad Mike
July-28th-2012, 04:19 PM
I refuse to believe someone can legitimately believe in this much bat **** crazy nonsense.
You seem like a reasonable, intelligent person. But in this case, you are unfortunately, wrong.
SpacePenguin
July-28th-2012, 04:20 PM
I would be fine with that...problem is it is trying to be used to restrict gun rights or get rid of them all together.
The actions taken after such events cast a light of uncertainty on each event for me.
These disasters are simply a means to a very visible end.
Post more often Ken. I'm a fan.
The term "conspiracy theorist" has been vilified to such an extent, many people will simply believe whatever they read from mainstream sources, and if anyone offers up any original thought...you just call them a conspiracy theorist. Then you don't have to think. Just insult the person who, judging by the content of this thread, is the only one who has put any significant amount of thought into the event in question.
Call me a loon, ES. It only proves my point.
Mr. Sinister
July-28th-2012, 04:29 PM
Alex Jones approves of this thread.
G.A.C.O.L.B.
July-28th-2012, 04:29 PM
ahhh the resident nut jobs are out now.... why cant it simply be a guy went crazy? why does it always end up being a conspiracy?
Because the crazy guy is accused of doing things that just don't make sense!!! Are we really supposed to believe the crazy guy would do illogical things?!?!
War Paint
July-28th-2012, 05:09 PM
The actions taken after such events cast a light of uncertainty on each event for me.
These disasters are simply a means to a very visible end.
Post more often Ken. I'm a fan.
The term "conspiracy theorist" has been vilified to such an extent, many people will simply believe whatever they read from mainstream sources, and if anyone offers up any original thought...you just call them a conspiracy theorist. Then you don't have to think. Just insult the person who, judging by the content of this thread, is the only one who has put any significant amount of thought into the event in question.
Call me a loon, ES. It only proves my point.
It's basically the Santa Claus theory. I remember the day when I learned there was no such thing as Santa Claus. Me and a couple of friends were playing with our Star Wars toys outside. It was about a month before Christmas. We started talking about certain toys Santa was going to bring us. One of my friends said, "there's no such thing as Santa". Me and the other friend responded with "what are you talking about? Of course there is a Santa." He shot back and said "No. There is no Santa. Your parents are the ones who buy the presents." Me and the other friend began making fun of him and said how ridiculous he sounded. He held firm and said "There is no Santa." Then we began to reason with him by asking questions like "why would our parents lie? It doesn't make sense. Everyone knows who Santa is. You can't tell a lie that big." He continued to hammer us with "there is no Santa Claus". Eventually we started to get angry with him and told him to shut up. We called him an idiot. Well later on, I walked home and my mom was sitting on the front porch with some of the other moms talking. I confronted her about what my friend told me. After pressing her for the truth, she finally gave in and told me the truth.
We basically have grown adults who believe in Santa Claus type stories because their government tells them so.
zoony
July-28th-2012, 05:21 PM
I'm going to close this ****, I can't take it
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