ABCNews:Bullied Girl Commits Suicide After Posting Youtube Video Pleaing For Help

[samy316]

http://abcnews.go.com/International/bullied-teen-amanda-todd-leaves-chilling-youtube-video/story?id=17463266#.UHontYZQSSo

Just a sad story all around, and one that unfortunately is becoming more common place with today's youth.

[zoony]

Looks like suicide rates have gone down slightly since 1991 if I'm reading this correctly

http://www.cdc.gov/violenceprevention/suicide/statistics/trends01.html

Sad story, always so when it's a child. From the article it sounds like she had a lot of help. Someday we will probably be able to effectively treat this kind of depression.

[twa]

It doesn't seem bullying was the main problem, though certainly a contributing one

[RichmondRedskin88]

blackmail, bullying, torturing, and just no human decency. I pray she has now found peace. Those that drove her to her suicide that live with blood on their hands.

[mistertim]

That's really sad. Breaks my heart to read things like this. Ugh.

[Koolblue13]

We haven't created an easy society, especially for kids in school. It's hard. Not everybody can handle it, not every parent can notice how bad it is.

You can't drug every problem away either. This is very sad.

added- anybody every hear from polywog?

[#BgMase76#]

Truely this is s sad and shouldn't have happened. However maybe I'm simply showing my age or simply a lack of understanding. I just can't comprehend being intimidated electronically. As a child my mother told me I was only allowed to fight in self defense. They could say whatever, but until they put their hands on me. I wasn't allowed to retaliate. Please don't misunderstand me. I'm not saying fighting solves everything or even anything. But I do remember when bullying was a physical act. I guess what has me stumped the most is the mentality of today's youth. Knowledge is at at a premium and more readily available than ever in history. Yet their psyche's seem so much weaker.

[Kosher Ham]

I do kind of agree with that. While SOME of the youth is "more creative", or "smarter"...they sure seem soft.
Feelings tend to get hurt a lot easier. My wife's cousin has two boys 8 and 11...what softies.

The whole emo vibe is weak minded to me. Waaahhh...feel bad for me, I have problems, life sucks, work sucks, etc. Man the **** up and stop being such a wimp.

I have a baby sister. Her male friends...they would have been bullied back in the day probably in spite of their size. Even the ones that play/ed division 1 football are kinda soft.

[skinsmarydu]

Truely this is s sad and shouldn't have happened. However maybe I'm simply showing my age or simply a lack of understanding. I just can't comprehend being intimidated electronically. As a child my mother told me I was only allowed to fight in self defense. They could say whatever, but until they put their hands on me. I wasn't allowed to retaliate. Please don't misunderstand me. I'm not saying fighting solves everything or even anything. But I do remember when bullying was a physical act. I guess what has me stumped the most is the mentality of today's youth. Knowledge is at at a premium and more readily available than ever in history. Yet their psyche's seem so much weaker.
We had a bully "family" in my high school. They pretty much controlled everything, and Daddy was a race car driver, so they got the cool cars at 16 too. I was witness to one of the daughters beating the snot (and pee) out of two girls, (the assaults were 4 years apart, but nonetheless), and the aggressor could kick a dude's ass, seriously. She beat one girl's head into the concrete right in front of the bus line, where the younger middle school and elementary students watched from bus windows. It was shameful...I don't care that the other girl made a derogatory comment about the "bully" girl's brother's death from a high ladder fall-electrical shock.
The really weird thing is, that if I were to mention the "bully" family name, probably half of ES will know who it was. Some of you probably already know. I hate what this did to the other girls, but back then, computers were the size of your living room, so there was no instant spreading of the drama, only by word of mouth.(and call-waiting was new then).
I'm sorry, Beverly and Sonya. Hope you're both OK now.

[Jumbo]

Truely this is s sad and shouldn't have happened. However maybe I'm simply showing my age or simply a lack of understanding. I just can't comprehend being intimidated electronically. As a child my mother told me I was only allowed to fight in self defense. They could say whatever, but until they put their hands on me. I wasn't allowed to retaliate. Please don't misunderstand me. I'm not saying fighting solves everything or even anything. But I do remember when bullying was a physical act. I guess what has me stumped the most is the mentality of today's youth. Knowledge is at at a premium and more readily available than ever in history. Yet their psyche's seem so much weaker.


I hear ya, and can identify, and I'll use your post and reply to you, but also am just saying this generally.

Maybe if you think of it as related to the same emotional dynamics most folks have come to understand that verbal abuse (as in serious spousal issues) can be as debilitating to a human being (in many cases) as physical abuse.

Stating as a fact that today's youth have "weaker psyches" is something you're going to hear any serious and competent professional in any related field state as a fact. And how one ever present that as anything other than "a thought I had." How could you test or prove it?

A statement you would see many people (professionals in related fields and those not) is that our culture (and the world) has become increasingly complex and demanding on all things "psyche" related, and more stressful and strained, and there are far more kinds of adult-level concepts, situations, and information, many with serious emotional content, that "hit" many of today's youth at ever younger ages and there are both enhancing and challenging aspects to it all---and that's just to name one aspect of development that has changed in a manner relevant to these kinds problems. Now for statements like those there actually is a ton of objective data that supports such contentions, along with the common perceptions of many people.

None of those comments involve ignoring all the potential advantages and benefits current many youth have access to, or are made in a vacuum unaware of the popular-with-some "awww, they have it so rough with all their video games and cell phones and fast food and Nikes and skinny jeans and i-this and i-that etc etc....kind of attitude (which I deploy from time to time :D).

So don't get me wrong, I understand "getting that feeling", BM76, in various forms of "what's wrong with today's youth", especially as the "soft" thing each generation seems to label the next with---usually males to males--and I sure have done it.

With any society at any time, it is reasonable to wonder if some current cultural dynamics have had some sort of shaping effect in some specific negative way. But even if so, that wouldn't mean that people were inherently "weaker" in any way, and scientifically speaking, such would be highly unlikely as an explanation (to put it mildly).

I think (and absolutely no slam intended) that's it good to look at the words you used to start the parts of your post that ended with your tentative conclusion. You are "stumped." I know that feeling. And being stumped is not the best position from which to start making assumptions that then start to become conclusions. Being stumped is the state from which to start asking questions with an open mind and trying to un-stump yourself :pfft:--ya want to uproot the stump, not pour concrete around it. :ols:

[Koolblue13]

When most of were kids, it took a long time for a rumor to spread and it still stayed in small circles.

Today, I can't imagine.

I had bully problems when I was in Jr High. My mom was dieing, life was falling apart, I looked funny and just didn't fit in. I would get in fights 3/4 days a week. I can just imagine if FB was around. Me being bullied could have turned into a game for people and hundreds could have laughed at me along the way. If a girl goes too far with a boy, it can be known through out the school before the next day starts. It's a lot easier to pile on now a days.

[Kosher Ham]

Truth be told...children don't need to be on facebook to begin with. Nor do most adults.

I have no need or interest in being on facebook, or twitter. I have family members that are on it. But we don't communicate that way. They call me or I call them. A rare text here and there...but that's it. Family mail to multiple members is sent via E-mail.

I feel sad about the situtation, however I don't know the details closely enough to establish a true opinion about the young lady.

I don't know why parents have ten year old kids with cell phones. I don't get it.
I am from an older mindset on certain things, but other things I am more open to education, or youthful interpretation.

[#BgMase76#]

Being a father of four I find myself constantly reinforcing their mental status. We talk about things that happen at school and it just seams like a loop most days. I'd say we have these discussions about every two months. Clearly I'm now in that time warp if "back in my day" because I always explain it the same way. They protest about how everything is different. After about 20 mins once again the light clicks on. I think today's youth require more guidance than ever before. It could quite possibly be an information overload.

[kiingspadee]

OK I want to mention that her being bullied is bad and all, but people are portraying her in such a positive light, yet people are not mentioning how she herself was not a "nice" person. Sleeping with a girl's boyfriend....

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blackmail, bullying, torturing, and just no human decency. I pray she has now found peace. Those that drove her to her suicide that live with blood on their hands.

As I stated, she is being portrayed as such a decent human being but it seems like she has done some rather messed up stuff herself and wasn't this "goody goody" person

[No Excuses]

As I stated, she is being portrayed as such a decent human being but it seems like she has done some rather messed up stuff herself and wasn't this "goody goody" person

She was harassed and physically assaulted after that incident. Was that warranted?

[No Excuses]

Kind of comes with the territory?

That is a really pathetic answer, especially considering she was 14 (or 15).

[kiingspadee]

She was harassed and physically assaulted after that incident. Was that warranted?

Kind of comes with the territory?

Look I am going to exit this thread....do not want to get into a debate, say some things, and just in general cause a big commotion resulting in a ban. It is a tragic event and sorry for the families loss

[Mr. Sinister]

I do think kids of today have more on their plate than kids 20-30 years ago, or even 10 years ago. I think many things factor into it, most prominantly family. I think the economy factors into it, putting pressure on parents, which in turn could potentially affect their relationships with their children.

My grandfathers generation, the tough, hard nosed bricklayers, coal miners, steel mill workers, just that old school way of life in general, was different. There were not many ways to communicate, or express your feelings to people. It was either get with the program, or suck it up/bottle it up, and keep it moving. I think it could very well be debatable whether or not kids 30 years ago had just as many problems, but just did not express it, but instead kept it bottled up, which doesn't always help when entering adulthood.

Anyways, I think that my dads generation, appreciated the tough love aspect, but chose to raise their children differently, allowing more open lines of communication, which would definitely lead to a generation of kids who are more willing to tell someone how they feel (about anything) which isn't a good thing. When you have out of control divorce rates, I think that that would definitely put a lot of stress on the average child. It put a lot of stress on me personally when I was a kid, as not all situations can go smoothly.

I think that every generation thinks that the subsequent generations after them are a lot softer than they were, and I'm sure that goes back hundreds of years, with the advances made in technology. I think that children today can definitely be more opinionated, and may complain, etc, but I think that a lot of kids are that way until they get to a certain age, and then they grow up. In my very limited experience, in public, and in the workplace, I've seen very many people who are middle aged or older, who throw complete temper tantrums over every little thing, and I know some kids today, 12 years or younger, who are mature beyond their years.

I honestly just think that you could very easily look at any very limited group of kids, study how they react to things on a daily basis, and come away with any conclusion that you want to. In cases like bullying, or self pride, some kids are just tougher than others, and it's probably always been that way. Just sucking it up though, can be an unproductive way of going about solving issues like that, and even though people "Back in the day" may have sucked it up more than kids of today do, I'm not so sure that you can make the claim that they're necessarily better off for it than a kid who chose to get help.

[FSUSkins24]

This is such a tragic story. It really scares me when I think of what kind of world I'd be bringing children into with all the things that can go wrong on the internet. At young ages they just aren't mature enough to know how to handle some things.

[SkinsTerpsFan]

OK I want to mention that her being bullied is bad and all, but people are portraying her in such a positive light, yet people are not mentioning how she herself was not a "nice" person. Sleeping with a girl's boyfriend....

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As I stated, she is being portrayed as such a decent human being but it seems like she has done some rather messed up stuff herself and wasn't this "goody goody" person

Not only that, but what about the fact that she performed the most selfish act there is in committing suicide. Somebody has to say it, so I will. There is no amount of pain, depression, or bullying that warrants ruining your family and friends' lives by commiting suicide. It's sad that people, especially young people, feel the need to end their lives due to such problems, but they are the ultimate quitters in my eyes. Quitting on life and leaving everyone who ever cared for you in grief. I'm not trying to be harsh, it's just how I feel. Someone out there has to agree with me...

[Skins4Life6388]

Not only that, but what about the fact that she performed the most selfish act there is in committing suicide. Somebody has to say it, so I will. There is no amount of pain, depression, or bullying that warrants ruining your family and friends' lives by commiting suicide. It's sad that people, especially young people, feel the need to end their lives due to such problems, but they are the ultimate quitters in my eyes. Quitting on life and leaving everyone who ever cared for you in grief. I'm not trying to be harsh, it's just how I feel. Someone out there has to agree with me...

I could not agree with you more.

[Koala]

That is a really pathetic answer, especially considering she was 14 (or 15).

Equally pathetic is that a 14 or 15 year old girl was in that territory to begin with (sexually active), and people dont immediately see that as one of the primary problems in this case. One of the biggest problems about ignoring sexual activity in children, is that children are easily duped into making stupid decisions. Duped by strangers that just want a peak and promise not to tell anyone. Duped by guys that claim, "I really like you, dont mind the fact I already have a girlfriend.". Duped into making dumb decisions that ruin their lives and their reputations.

As a society, we have become entirely too permissive of the fact that children are becoming sexually active. Teaching safe sex and then looking the other way is not the answer, teaching young people to protect their chastity is the only real solution. "Safe sex" has created a false bubble of security. Contraception cannot protect your reputation. Pregnancy and STDs are not the only catastrophe that can come out of sex between unmarried people.

She's not the exception. The average american (I realize she's Canadian) "woman" now loses her virginity at the age of 14. Thats...ridiculous, and an indictment against our society.

There are always gonna be predators and *******s out there. Ultimately, the only way to protect yourself is to avoid actions that give people an oppurtunity to shame and blackmail you. This is true for all people in all aspects of life, not just sex. This is a tough life lesson that we all learn eventually. Unfortunately, she never seemed to grasp that lesson.

Still, I hope they find the bullies and lock them up. And then begin a serious discussion about our objectification of women and the early sexualization of girls. Then maybe, some good will have come out of this sad sordid tale.

[kiingspadee]

Not only that, but what about the fact that she performed the most selfish act there is in committing suicide. Somebody has to say it, so I will. There is no amount of pain, depression, or bullying that warrants ruining your family and friends' lives by commiting suicide. It's sad that people, especially young people, feel the need to end their lives due to such problems, but they are the ultimate quitters in my eyes. Quitting on life and leaving everyone who ever cared for you in grief. I'm not trying to be harsh, it's just how I feel. Someone out there has to agree with me...

I agree with you but I am a bit harsher on this thought. I think it is pathetic really and everything about her seems like "attention whoring" She is not the first person to be bullied and get beat up and so forth. You do not see all of them having to make videos and cry about it online trying to get sympathy let alone have to go out and kill themselves because "life is so hard" guess what - after your four years of high school about 85% and above of those people who bullied you or whatever will have no contact with you. Get over yourself and stand up for yourself. They pick on you because you are an easy target. It is a tragic situation but I feel more bad for the family. The girl just wanted attention and she got it

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Equally pathetic is that a 14 or 15 year old girl was in that territory to begin with (sexually active), and people dont immediately see that as one of the primary problems in this case. One of the biggest problems about ignoring sexual activity in children, is that children are easily duped into making stupid decisions. Duped by strangers that just want a peak and promise not to tell anyone. Duped by guys that claim, "I really like you, dont mind the fact I already have a girlfriend.". Duped into making dumb decisions that ruin their lives and their reputations.

As a society, we have become entirely too permissive of the fact that children are becoming sexually active. Teaching safe sex and then looking the other way is not the answer, teaching young people to protect their chastity is the only real solution. "Safe sex" has created a false bubble of security. Contraception cannot protect your reputation. Pregnancy and STDs are not the only catastrophe that can come out of sex between unmarried people.

She's not the exception. The average american (I realize she's Canadian) "woman" now loses her virginity at the age of 14. Thats...ridiculous, and an indictment against our society.

There are always gonna be predators and *******s out there. Ultimately, the only way to protect yourself is to avoid actions that give people an oppurtunity to shame and blackmail you. This is true for all people in all aspects of life, not just sex. This is a tough life lesson that we all learn eventually. Unfortunately, she never seemed to grasp that lesson.

Still, I hope they find the bullies and lock them up. And then begin a serious discussion about our objectification of women and the early sexualization of girls. Then maybe, some good will have come out of this sad sordid tale.

So these bullies get locked up because she did not stand up for herself and because she decided she couldn't do anything BUT kill herself. I agree bullying is bad and should not be tolerated, but spending the tax payers money on locking them up....not the answer

[Mr. Sinister]

If some people need help, they need help. Yes, suicide is horrible, but I can't treat every single suicide as a simple case of someone being a pathetic, worthless, selfish human being. It's too easy to say that and pile on. That was probably what they thought of themselves every single day anyway. Not everyone is strong enough to simply shrug stuff off. So I would say it's sad, not pathetic.

A lot of suicide victims don't even realize just how much of an impact their deaths will have on their families, which is the ****ed up part.It' s just not as simple as "**** the world, and **** my family."

[NLC1054]

Methinks people underestimate the depths a person falls to, to consider suicide as a legitimate option.

It's always easy for the people on the outside looking in to, basically, say "well you should just be stronger", or to blame the person who committed suicide because they made a mistake.

I think what's worse about society isn't just young people committing suicide, and it isn't just young people getting bullied; it's that adults roll their eyes and huff and puff and basically dismiss people who commit suicide as selfish weaklings, and dismiss teenagers committing suicide in particular as people who just need to get over it.

Clearly this girl reached out, and I wouldn't be surprised if there just as many dumbasses who told her to grow up, get over it, it's not that big a deal, it's part her fault anyway. It's no wonder people feel like the world is against them when they reach out and get shouted down as cowards, and then called even more so in death.

Suicide isn't an easy decision to come to. It is not something people consider lightly, or as a grab for attention, at least not usually. It is not "the easy way out". If every human's instinct is to survive and live, how can that be the easy way out?

I think it's weak sauce a bunch of a grown ass people dismiss that.

[Koala]

So these bullies get locked up because she did not stand up for herself and because she decided she couldn't do anything BUT kill herself. I agree bullying is bad and should not be tolerated, but spending the tax payers money on locking them up....not the answer

The first bully should be locked up for disseminating child pornography. The second bully should be locked up for assault and battery. Those are both serious crimes, what arent you understanding about that?

[Mr. Sinister]

I think what's worse about society isn't just young people committing suicide, and it isn't just young people getting bullied; it's that adults roll their eyes and huff and puff and basically dismiss people who commit suicide as selfish weaklings, and dismiss teenagers committing suicide in particular as people who just need to get over it.

Clearly this girl reached out, and I wouldn't be surprised if there just as many dumbasses who told her to grow up, get over it, it's not that big a deal, it's part her fault anyway. It's no wonder people feel like the world is against them when they reach out and get shouted down as cowards, and then called even more so in death.

Suicide isn't an easy decision to come to. It is not something people consider lightly, or as a grab for attention, at least not usually. It is not "the easy way out". If every human's instinct is to survive and live, how can that be the easy way out?

I think it's weak sauce a bunch of a grown ass people dismiss that.

Exactly. Being told to grow up, and get over ****, does nothing to someone who is already dealing with serious issues. All it will do is force them even further into isolation because they feel like they have nowhere else to go, because at every turn, in their mind, there is going to be someone telling them "Get over it,"" There's nothing wrong with you, you're just a soft POS,", etc The more that peopl e realize that **** like that does nothing but make a situation worse, the better off everyone would be. It has absolutely nothing to do with being soft.

There is that old school culture of "Suck it up, kid" that can still be applied, but people really need to chill with being so heavy handed with it. There is nothing wrong with seeking help, or discussing your issues. Many people feel better once they have someone to sit and talk to that will simply take the time to understand where they're coming from, and get them the apprpriate help that is needed. In a lot of suicides, especially in children, there were probably a fair amount of instances where the child tried to reach out to someone, but were ignored, or told to sack up and get some thick skin.

[Koala]

Methinks people underestimate the depths a person falls to, to consider suicide as a legitimate option...
I think it's weak sauce a bunch of a grown ass people dismiss that.

It shows a complete lack of understanding of human psychology. People commit suicide ultimately because of loneliness. They feel nobody gives a damn about them in life, so why should they think that their death will affect anybody?

If you see the video, one of her last cards read something like, "I really need a friend, I need for one person to care". I dont think thats attention-whoring. Instead of telling people to "suck-it-up", why dont you really solve the problem of suicide by going out and befriending some lonely soul out there. Nah, its just easier to judge, isnt it?

[No Excuses]

. I agree bullying is bad and should not be tolerated,r

You basically said she deserved the beating and harassment she suffered. That's pretty much advocating that bullying is ok if someone commits an act of stupidity.


It shows a complete lack of understanding of human psychology. People commit suicide ultimately because of loneliness. They feel nobody gives a damn about them in life, so why should they think that their death will affect anybody?

If you see the video, one of her last cards read something like, "I really need a friend, I need for one person to care". I dont think thats attention-whoring. Instead of telling people to "suck-it-up", why dont you really solve the problem of suicide by going out and befriending some lonely soul out there. Nah, its just easier to judge, isnt it?

You said it much nicer than I could have. Thanks for posting this.

I think its the height of arrogance to judge people who have bottomed out so badly that they consider or commit suicide.

[Koolblue13]

This thread is shockingly misunderstanding and cruel. Most of you are over simplifying a serious problem.

Depression is a major problem and although suicide is a selfish act, it's rarely malicious.

So, we have more US soldiers killing themselves than dieing in combat. Are they just selfish and lonely or could something be very wrong?

[TD_washingtonredskins]

I'm shocked at some of the responses. Nobody is perfect and I'm sure this poor girl had serious flaws, but can't we still feel bad for her? She was in such a bad place that she chose to end her life...that's not attention whoring! She had so much pain in her life that she was at peace with never again experiencing any of the joy life has to offer. Tragic.

[Barney B]

Human nature has its flaws. Put some poor suicidal soul up on a bridge, and there will always be those who feel compelled to yell "jump!"


http://www.seattlepi.com/local/article/Commuters-mood-turns-ugly-as-suicide-try-snarls-1064089.php


If you're ever standing next to such a person at such a time, you are hereby granted the moral authority to administer some ad hoc dental extractions. Message boards require more civilized approaches, and efforts toward that end exemplified in this thread deserve commendation.

Carry on.

[STBonecrusher21]

I'm shocked at some of the responses. Nobody is perfect and I'm sure this poor girl had serious flaws, but can't we still feel bad for her? She was in such a bad place that she chose to end her life...that's not attention whoring! She had so much pain in her life that she was at peace with never again experiencing any of the joy life has to offer. Tragic.

Agreed.

I really don't get the "selfish" argument. People have NO idea what kind of scrutiny depression can have on her soul. Seems like that's kind of the reason she chose to end it all.

[RichmondRedskin88]

Equally pathetic is that a 14 or 15 year old girl was in that territory to begin with (sexually active), and people dont immediately see that as one of the primary problems in this case. One of the biggest problems about ignoring sexual activity in children, is that children are easily duped into making stupid decisions. Duped by strangers that just want a peak and promise not to tell anyone. Duped by guys that claim, "I really like you, dont mind the fact I already have a girlfriend.". Duped into making dumb decisions that ruin their lives and their reputations.

As a society, we have become entirely too permissive of the fact that children are becoming sexually active. Teaching safe sex and then looking the other way is not the answer, teaching young people to protect their chastity is the only real solution. "Safe sex" has created a false bubble of security. Contraception cannot protect your reputation. Pregnancy and STDs are not the only catastrophe that can come out of sex between unmarried people.

She's not the exception. The average american (I realize she's Canadian) "woman" now loses her virginity at the age of 14. Thats...ridiculous, and an indictment against our society.

There are always gonna be predators and *******s out there. Ultimately, the only way to protect yourself is to avoid actions that give people an oppurtunity to shame and blackmail you. This is true for all people in all aspects of life, not just sex. This is a tough life lesson that we all learn eventually. Unfortunately, she never seemed to grasp that lesson.

Still, I hope they find the bullies and lock them up. And then begin a serious discussion about our objectification of women and the early sexualization of girls. Then maybe, some good will have come out of this sad sordid tale.

I Think noawadays teens get this idea of finding someone who "loves" them at all costs and find it early. It's like there's a pressure to find love younger and younger. I have no doubt there was some kind of pressure in this case where she thought she had to do things she did to get the guy to like her. This is unfortunate result of her youth. She didn't understand the pressure of sex and didn't understand the potential consequences of her actions. Once again her youth.

Seriously who didn't have a douche guy friend that used some girls(and were proud of it) in a way of "yeah we're dating but you mean much more to me." I had some and I'm glad to say I got rid of them. Those guys that straight up use women don't realize what they may do to them emotionally.

There's nothing that can be done as far as sex and teens. The fact is minus those that are truly saving that for marriage most will have sex. The issue with the age getting earlier is there's no way people can understand the potential consequences of sex.

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I'm shocked at some of the responses. Nobody is perfect and I'm sure this poor girl had serious flaws, but can't we still feel bad for her? She was in such a bad place that she chose to end her life...that's not attention whoring! She had so much pain in her life that she was at peace with never again experiencing any of the joy life has to offer. Tragic.

It's quite shocking. This young girl ended up trap in her own prison. Yes, she may have made mistakes but that doesn't mean she deserved to die for it. They don't have any clue what mindset she must have been in. Most wouldn't have even put a video out. She was so trapped within her soul that she went to the internet to look for comfort. Unfortunately she was met with absolute hatred. Hell even now you see pics of people faking drinking bleach and stuff. I honestly am at the point of giving up on humanity.

[Fan since a Fetus]

Never mind, I regret my post.

[Kosher Ham]

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I don't think suicide is selfish.

This is why you need to make an appointment.

[Jumbo]

<Ignore---misread other post >

[Destino]

Children should never have access to the interment and privacy at the same time.

[Jumbo]

Children should never have access to the interment and privacy at the same time.

Absolutely, Des. It's something I teach in both family systems classes, academically, and in parenting educational programs, clinically.

[Fan since a Fetus]

This is why you need to make an appointment.

Sorry, don't agree, and definitely don't think I need to make an appointment for that. Of course, you don't know my full story and maybe it was silly of me to post the little bit I did. Like I said, I was going out on a limb.

[FSUSkins24]

I'm somebody who suffered from severe depression in high school and spent hours and hours in therapy because of loneliness. I'm an attractive fellow and have played sports all my life (so I wasn't some nerd/emo/loser type like people have labeled those with depression in this thread) but I hadn't found myself and I had a chemical imbalance. Couple that with social anxiety and it can mean big trouble. In full disclosure I had harmed myself and had made attempts, it was never a "look at me, I need attention" kind of thing, it was a cry for help. I don't want to pile on because there are people who have already set people straight for their harsh disregard for this girl.

I just want to say that for those of you who have never experienced that level of turmoil or bottomed out, you just don't understand, and you probably never will. There were times where I kept trucking only because I knew what it would do to my family and friends.

I still have bouts of depression and the way I've overcome my issues are that I have loving and supportive family and friends and I stay physically active. I refuse to take medication, to me eating right and exercise are what keep me sane. There are often times when I feel due to my psyche I'm damaged goods, despite being a wonderful person otherwise. It's a constant struggle, and it's usually all in my head.

It's strange what you're willing to share on a somewhat anonymous board. You'd never know this about me if I didn't tell you.

[Kosher Ham]

Fan, The only way I would ever feel regret in life is if I didn't learn something with mistakes I made.

No reason to regret your post and I will edit mine as well if that makes you more comfortable.

And the full story is perhaps something you can vent here...but at the same time talk to a pro, not just the rest of us idiots that think we know a thing or two about everything.
I felt that way at one point and many years later I realize how much I would have missed.

[Fan since a Fetus]

Fan, The only way I would ever feel regret in life is if I didn't learn something with mistakes I made.

No reason to regret your post and I will edit mine as well if that makes you more comfortable.

And the full story is perhaps something you can vent here...but at the same time talk to a pro, not just the rest of us idiots that think we know a thing or two about everything.
I felt that way at one point and many years later I realize how much I would have missed.

No reason to edit your post, thank you for the offer. I am going to talk to someone because I am missing out on a lot and have recently came to the realization that I need help. Posting my issues here wouldn't help. Honestly, I think they are trivial compared to others, I just can't overcome them.

[Thiebear]

I couldn't watch the video...
[/my annoying babbling]
My 13yr old daughter lost her mind when someone took her homestuck URL. It's hard to understand how pixels or non-physical things being so important but you better learn.
Online is no different than gossip in the school. Online is no different than "someone" at work or email.

Being an IT guy i check on her all the time, Walk up and tell her to get up and i go through all her posts.
I tell her upfront there is nothing you do online that I won't know about (even though its really like 10%)
Laptop has to be in the family room. And little sis the tattletale shares the same laptop hour on/hour off.
Most of this is because she is a sensitive little artist that shows all of the signs and has had problems in school in the past.
I read heartbreaking stories like this topic and have to stop myself from turning off the electricity to the house.

[Pride]

People don't understand or don't care the impact of their actions.. Wondering where her family was in all this.

[pjfootballer]

This thread is shockingly misunderstanding and cruel. Most of you are over simplifying a serious problem.

Depression is a major problem and although suicide is a selfish act, it's rarely malicious.

So, we have more US soldiers killing themselves than dieing in combat. Are they just selfish and lonely or could something be very wrong?

I agree that this is tragic, but to go on the US soldiers killing themselves, why is this generation doing this more often in the Iraq/Afgahnistan wars, then in other wars before? There are men still alive today that were prisoners of war in WWII, Korea and Vietnam that went through 10 times more horrific situations in their wars then these wars. Today's soldiers barely have to do anything while drones and computer guided missiles do most of the work for them. My grandfather went face to face with kamikaze's, had nightmares his whole life, but he didn't commit suicide. Neither did my dad who served in Vietnam and had friends who were POWs in that war. You have to wonder why the psyche of people is so much more fragile then it used to be. Is it the "everybody" wins mentality we have? Is it too much technology? Too much letting everyone know what you are feeling? IDK, I was picked on terrible by one guy in the 5th grade that called me goose neck. Had another guy named Melvin that teased me relentlessly in junior high. But hell, I endured, got through it and I didn;t feel the need to commit suicide. I'm just not sure why people are so week willed these days.

[Forehead]

I've been out of the loop I guess, this is the first I heard about her or this story. I can't see the video but I was able to Google Image pictures of her holding the notes from it, her message for help, etc, and read some more of the story of what happened. It's sad that the picture that started the whole thing is still floating around the Internet as well. Dead and underaged, and yet people are still making those meme mockups with it, etc. It's horrible. Did they ever catch the guy who convinced her to take the picture in the first place, then tried to blackmail her with it?

[Thiebear]

I agree that this is tragic, but to go on the US soldiers killing themselves, why is this generation doing this more often in the Iraq/Afgahnistan wars, then in other wars before? There are men still alive today that were prisoners of war in WWII, Korea and Vietnam that went through 10 times more horrific situations in their wars then these wars. Today's soldiers barely have to do anything while drones and computer guided missiles do most of the work for them. My grandfather went face to face with kamikaze's, had nightmares his whole life, but he didn't commit suicide. Neither did my dad who served in Vietnam and had friends who were POWs in that war. You have to wonder why the psyche of people is so much more fragile then it used to be. Is it the "everybody" wins mentality we have? Is it too much technology? Too much letting everyone know what you are feeling? IDK, I was picked on terrible by one guy in the 5th grade that called me goose neck. Had another guy named Melvin that teased me relentlessly in junior high. But hell, I endured, got through it and I didn;t feel the need to commit suicide. I'm just not sure why people are so week willed these days.

a 12 year war with 1/2 the troops we have had in the past?
Doesn't seem difficult to understand when you ask the same 100 troops to do 10 tours.
Our current children make us old vets look lazy

[pjfootballer]

a 12 year war with 1/2 the troops we have had in the past?
Doesn't seem difficult to understand when you ask the same 100 troops to do 10 tours.
Our current children make us old vets look lazy

Different kinds of wars And there was no draft for these wars, so some could have bowed out. I would say that with the technology, today's warfare is a whole lot easier then it used to be and you don't need as many troops when the machines are doing most of the work. Not as many POWs in this war either. Let some of these guys spend 10 years in a 4 by 4 hole in the ground being beaten and fed scraps and then come crying to me. Sorry, they have it easier. Let me know when someone flys a plane directly at you on purpose and then see if they have it easier.

[Predicto]

You have to wonder why the psyche of people is so much more fragile then it used to be...... IDK, I was picked on terrible by one guy in the 5th grade that called me goose neck. Had another guy named Melvin that teased me relentlessly in junior high. But hell, I endured, got through it and I didn;t feel the need to commit suicide. I'm just not sure why people are so week willed these days.

Your anecdotal viewpoint isn't very useful, IMO. As someone else pointed out, suicides are down in the past 20 years, not up. The assumption that people used to be tough, but are now wussies (or used to work hard but now are lazy, or used to be civilized but now are uneducated, or used to be law abiding but now are criminals, or whatever) is almost always due to an unrealistic and incorrect understanding of what the past was really like. Nothing against your Dad and Grandfather, but their individual experiences are not that telling (and chances are, you are romanticizing their positive qualities, as we all do when we think about our loved ones).

---------- Post added October-15th-2012 at 09:36 AM ----------


This thread is shockingly misunderstanding and cruel. Most of you are over simplifying a serious problem.



Couldn't agree more.

[pjfootballer]

Your anecdotal viewpoint isn't very useful, IMO. As someone else pointed out, suicides are down in the past 20 years, not up. The assumption that people used to be tough, but are now wussies (or used to work hard but now are lazy, or used to be civilized but now are uneducated, or used to be law abiding but now are criminals, or whatever) is almost always due to an unrealistic and incorrect understanding of what the past was really like. Nothing against your Dad and Grandfather, but their individual experiences are not that telling (and chances are, you are romanticizing their positive qualities, as we all do when we think about our loved ones)

I saw the post that showed suicides are down, but I'd be interested in seeing how many people are in therapy or are on some kind of anti-depressant compared to years past. Seems like with more technology, everyone wants to air their problems to the world. I understand that the eras don't compare, but it makes you wonder with the "everybody gets a trophy" generation, as to how mentally tough kids are when facing the real world.

My Dad wasn't a POW, but did serve during Vietnam. Everything I said about my Grandfather was true. He would never talk about it, but my Grandmother did. Just from what the Japanese did to him, he hated anyone of Asian decent until the day he died.

[RichmondRedskin88]

I typed her name in yesterday to see the note card picture and the picture she was blackmailed with popped up on the 1st page. Sad thing is that will always be there. That's the unfortunate consequence of putting anything out there anymore. Atleast she won't have to deal with the torture of it anymore. Shame on those who are mocking the whole thingswith joke pictures holding bleach and stuff.

[DjTj]

I agree that this is tragic, but to go on the US soldiers killing themselves, why is this generation doing this more often in the Iraq/Afgahnistan wars, then in other wars before? There are men still alive today that were prisoners of war in WWII, Korea and Vietnam that went through 10 times more horrific situations in their wars then these wars. Today's soldiers barely have to do anything while drones and computer guided missiles do most of the work for them. My grandfather went face to face with kamikaze's, had nightmares his whole life, but he didn't commit suicide. Neither did my dad who served in Vietnam and had friends who were POWs in that war. You have to wonder why the psyche of people is so much more fragile then it used to be. Is it the "everybody" wins mentality we have? Is it too much technology? Too much letting everyone know what you are feeling? IDK, I was picked on terrible by one guy in the 5th grade that called me goose neck. Had another guy named Melvin that teased me relentlessly in junior high. But hell, I endured, got through it and I didn;t feel the need to commit suicide. I'm just not sure why people are so week willed these days.Actually, there was a study in California that showed that World War II veterans have been committing suicide at a higher rate than those returning from Iraq and Afghanistan.
We call them the Greatest Generation of military veterans, who saved the world for democracy by defeating Germany and Japan and then returned home to build the United States into a superpower after World War II.

In the popular mythology, they’re practically invincible, rarely complaining about the trauma of war.

But an investigation by The Bay Citizen and New America Media shows there’s a massive amount of pain behind that taciturn exterior: In California, World War II-era veterans are killing themselves at a rate that’s nearly four times higher than that of people the same age with no military service.

The suicide rate among these veterans is also roughly double the rate of veterans under 35, those who are returning home from Iraq and Afghanistan.http://www.baycitizen.org/veterans/story/suicide-rates-soar-among-wwii-vets/

War is terrible. It was in the past, and it is now, and people have always had trouble coping with it.

[Predicto]

I saw the post that showed suicides are down, but I'd be interested in seeing how many people are in therapy or are on some kind of anti-depressant compared to years past.



In the old days, they just self-medicated and drank themselves to death, like my father did. :whoknows:




Seems like with more technology, everyone wants to air their problems to the world. I understand that the eras don't compare, but it makes you wonder with the "everybody gets a trophy" generation, as to how mentally tough kids are when facing the real world.

My Dad wasn't a POW, but did serve during Vietnam. Everything I said about my Grandfather was true. He would never talk about it, but my Grandmother did. Just from what the Japanese did to him, he hated anyone of Asian decent until the day he died.

So much of what you are saying is "it seems like to me based on my gut feelings about a past era that I never lived in..." That's a very thin base of data.

As an aside, I'm not sure that someone who hates all Asian people for the rest of his life is showing "mental toughness." Sounds like more like a scarred survivor coping as best he can. :whoknows:

[Destino]

Your anecdotal viewpoint isn't very useful, IMO. As someone else pointed out, suicides are down in the past 20 years, not up. The assumption that people used to be tough, but are now wussies (or used to work hard but now are lazy, or used to be civilized but now are uneducated, or used to be law abiding but now are criminals, or whatever) is almost always due to an unrealistic and incorrect understanding of what the past was really like. Nothing against your Dad and Grandfather, but their individual experiences are not that telling (and chances are, you are romanticizing their positive qualities, as we all do when we think about our loved ones).

I agree Predicto. The good ol' days when grandpa walked uphill both ways to put food on the table for an appreciative family. A world that, depending on the argument, could be both cruel enough toughen you up or polite and fulled with respectful folk that did right by their families and fellow man. It's almost a shame such a time didn't exist. Had it existed I'm not sure how many parallels could be drawn between such a place and today's modern world where the bullies follow you home and live in your phone and computer.

In reading this story my thoughts went to two things, why didn't someone unplug this girl for a while and I wondered if she had people in her life that told her that she mattered often enough to make her believe it. I don't know as much as the experts do and I haven't read up on the latest science but I think kids need to be told that they matter, that they are loved, and that they have family that will face down the world with them should it come to that. Sure people have gotten along just fine without those things, we've all met the guy, or the guy that knows the guy, that had horrible parents and went on to save countless orphans while building his fortune. Most people aren't that guy.

I don't get the feeling that this girl had someone looking out for her like she needed. I admit however, that I could be wrong and this was all a mental illness issue that the parents did there best to fight.

[mcsluggo]

Different kinds of wars And there was no draft for these wars, so some could have bowed out. I would say that with the technology, today's warfare is a whole lot easier then it used to be and you don't need as many troops when the machines are doing most of the work. Not as many POWs in this war either. Let some of these guys spend 10 years in a 4 by 4 hole in the ground being beaten and fed scraps and then come crying to me. Sorry, they have it easier. Let me know when someone flys a plane directly at you on purpose and then see if they have it easier.

show me the generation that doesn't (incorrectly) state that the next generation has gone weak ....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1F9vRVyV914

[pjfootballer]

Well, this is a message board and these are just opinions. Show me your Psychology degree and then I'll relent. I wasn't trying to downplay what happened because anytime someone takes their own life, there are a thousand questions that go unanswered and for someone so young, makes it even worse.

[Forehead]

In the old days, they just self-medicated and drank themselves to death, like my father did. :whoknows:

Suicide rates are down, but what is up is the public, electronic cries for help and the media attention. There were more suicides in the past, but many of them were people who quietly internalized everything and then took that way out. Their family was affected, and maybe it made the local papers.

Nowadays, people can vocalize their pain through social electronic means like this girl, and the national media picks it up. It seems like there are more suicides and that kids are wussier because they have more of an outlet to broadcast their problems. You become more aware of it.

******

To me, I think it's a lot like the argument of whether kids are allowed to play outside without watchful parenting, how there are more sexual predators, etc. I doubt there are more sexual/child predators out there than in the 1970's, they just have better tools to contact kids now (chat rooms, etc.) and schedule meetups than were available to them in the past, so the problem seems worse. Just my gut feeling.

[Forehead]

Here's my other question? The girl said she had no one....didn't her father find her in a ditch? She moves schools twice, including going to live with her mother. Surely they tried to help her...lend an ear; be a sounding board? If not, what the hell?

[Predicto]

Well, this is a message board and these are just opinions. Show me your Psychology degree and then I'll relent.


Jumbo will have to do that.



I wasn't trying to downplay what happened because anytime someone takes their own life, there are a thousand questions that go unanswered and for someone so young, makes it even worse.

Oh, I know you weren't. I'm not saying you were downplaying anything, or being thoughtless or mean. I know you are not that kind of person. :cheers:

I was just commenting on the natural human tendency to romanticize the past and despair about the present. :whoknows:

[No Excuses]

To me, I think it's a lot like the argument of whether kids are allowed to play outside without watchful parenting, how there are more sexual predators, etc. I doubt there are more sexual/child predators out there than in the 1970's, they just have better tools to contact kids now (chat rooms, etc.) and schedule meetups than were available to them in the past, so the problem seems worse. Just my gut feeling.

You are correct. The line of communications have changed and the anonymity of the internet brings out the absolute worst out of people.

A simple read up on the comments section of a youtube video or yahoo article will make you think we are still living in the Jim Crow era.

[Predicto]

Suicide rates are down, but what is up is the public, electronic cries for help and the media attention. There were more suicides in the past, but many of them were people who quietly internalized everything and then took that way out. Their family was affected, and maybe it made the local papers.

Nowadays, people can vocalize their pain through social electronic means like this girl, and the national media picks it up. It seems like there are more suicides and that kids are wussier because they have more of an outlet to broadcast their problems. You become more aware of it.

******

To me, I think it's a lot like the argument of whether kids are allowed to play outside without watchful parenting, how there are more sexual predators, etc. I doubt there are more sexual/child predators out there than in the 1970's, they just have better tools to contact kids now (chat rooms, etc.) and schedule meetups than were available to them in the past, so the problem seems worse. Just my gut feeling.

I think you are correct.

My high school had a teacher who preyed upon the teenage girls. The few people who knew didn't talk about it. I only found out about it a couple years ago.

Some people think that because they are reading more stories about sexual predators, there must be more sexual predators than there were in the past. As far as I know, most studies show the exact opposite.

[Koolblue13]

I'm somebody who suffered from severe depression in high school and spent hours and hours in therapy because of loneliness. I'm an attractive fellow and have played sports all my life (so I wasn't some nerd/emo/loser type like people have labeled those with depression in this thread) but I hadn't found myself and I had a chemical imbalance. Couple that with social anxiety and it can mean big trouble. In full disclosure I had harmed myself and had made attempts, it was never a "look at me, I need attention" kind of thing, it was a cry for help. I don't want to pile on because there are people who have already set people straight for their harsh disregard for this girl.

I just want to say that for those of you who have never experienced that level of turmoil or bottomed out, you just don't understand, and you probably never will. There were times where I kept trucking only because I knew what it would do to my family and friends.

I still have bouts of depression and the way I've overcome my issues are that I have loving and supportive family and friends and I stay physically active. I refuse to take medication, to me eating right and exercise are what keep me sane. There are often times when I feel due to my psyche I'm damaged goods, despite being a wonderful person otherwise. It's a constant struggle, and it's usually all in my head.

It's strange what you're willing to share on a somewhat anonymous board. You'd never know this about me if I didn't tell you.

That's a really great post and thanks for sharing this with us. It's true, people don't understand what it's like to have these feelings or bottom out.

When I was 13, my mom got cancer and her funeral was on my 14th birthday. Nobody was asking how I was doing. My dad then came out of the closet, my moms family tried to get custody of my little sister and I and told us lies about my dad. My dad wasn't around, because of work, sorrow and life and I was on my own pretty much, then the bank took our house, so I lost my dog and the only friends I really had left. The rest had turned into bullies over the prior year and I now fought these kids all the time. I was never a social butterfly and I truly had nobody I could talk to. Certainly nobody who could possibly understand what I was going through. I tried killing myself a bunch of different ways, but couldn't just put it over the edge. I asked my Dad is I could talk to his shrink and told her I was trying to die and was put into a hospital for the next month until my insurance ended.

My sister two years later, I saved her life twice when she tried to kill herself with pills. I'll never forget a second of it. Life can be so ****ing hard at times and it's not always as easy as toughening up.

[Forehead]

My high school had a teacher who preyed upon the teenage girls. The few people who knew didn't talk about it. I only found out about it a couple years ago.

Interesting...we went to the same high school and there were a few teachers there that had been there for quite a long time (multiple decades). Skin crawling.

[FSUSkins24]

That's a really great post and thanks for sharing this with us. It's true, people don't understand what it's like to have these feelings or bottom out.

When I was 13, my mom got cancer and her funeral was on my 14th birthday. Nobody was asking how I was doing. My dad then came out of the closet, my moms family tried to get custody of my little sister and I and told us lies about my dad. My dad wasn't around, because of work, sorrow and life and I was on my own pretty much, then the bank took our house, so I lost my dog and the only friends I really had left. The rest had turned into bullies over the prior year and I now fought these kids all the time. I was never a social butterfly and I truly had nobody I could talk to. Certainly nobody who could possibly understand what I was going through. I tried killing myself a bunch of different ways, but couldn't just put it over the edge. I asked my Dad is I could talk to his shrink and told her I was trying to die and was put into a hospital for the next month until my insurance ended.

My sister two years later, I saved her life twice when she tried to kill herself with pills. I'll never forget a second of it. Life can be so ****ing hard at times and it's not always as easy as toughening up.

Thank you for sharing as well, you helped make me feel like I wasn't the only person putting my business out there. Life is tough, and not everybody experiences the same things. This girl was young and immature and she needed a friend, guidance even. She needed somebody to stick their neck out for her. There is also no telling what experiences she might have had that she didn't share with the world. There are things that happened to me when I was young that I've never spoken to anybody about. At a young age your psyche is fragile and it doesn't take much for something to wire wrong while you're still developing. The mind is very complex.

I'm proud to say that for the most part I live a very happy life, but there are at times a disconnect. I can feel it there. My experiences have made me a much more empathetic and compassionate person, if nothing else.

Although I couldn't imagine being in this little girl's shoes. In life she felt there was no escape from the torment, and with your name and photos out there you have to ask yourself how far could she run from it? If you're that young girl you probably feel like you never will. Somebody said earlier that she hated life so much that she no longer desired to experience the good in it. When you're in that deep of a depression there is no good in life. You don't experience happiness. It doesn't exist.

[Forehead]

Maybe I'm being naive, but why are these photos still out there? As I posted before, and someone else posted later, I google imaged her name + suicide because I was curious what her note cards said, and the picture which started all this is still popping up, mixed in with the pictures of her note cards that I was looking for. Can't the people hosting these images be charged? She was 13 or 14 when it was taken.

[Koolblue13]

Thank you for sharing as well, you helped make me feel like I wasn't the only person putting my business out there. Life is tough, and not everybody experiences the same things. This girl was young and immature and she needed a friend, guidance even. She needed somebody to stick their neck out for her. There is also no telling what experiences she might have had that she didn't share with the world. There are things that happened to me when I was young that I've never spoken to anybody about. At a young age your psyche is fragile and it doesn't take much for something to wire wrong while you're still developing. The mind is very complex.

I'm proud to say that for the most part I live a very happy life, but there are at times a disconnect. I can feel it there. My experiences have made me a much more empathetic and compassionate person, if nothing else.

Although I couldn't imagine being in this little girl's shoes. In life she felt there was no escape from the torment, and with your name and photos out there you have to ask yourself how far could she run from it? If you're that young girl you probably feel like you never will. Somebody said earlier that she hated life so much that she no longer desired to experience the good in it. When you're in that deep of a depression there is no good in life. You don't experience happiness. It doesn't exist.

That's exactly right. I've had issues with it my entire life. I know it's an option and it doesn't scare me anymore. It's always in the back of my mind though, even when life is good.

Sometimes, you just need to be able to escape from everything. A time out and be somewhere safe. I don't think this girl had a person she could trust, a place she could go. It must have been the worst feeling imaginable and she must have died the loneliest death.

Great sig BTW

[Koolblue13]

Oh crap, so I just google imaged her name and clicked on a picture that would certainly be considered child porn. WTF do I do?

[FSUSkins24]

Great sig BTW

Hahah thanks, I woke up this morning to find that the mods finally decided to give my other sig the ax (I honestly didn't do my due diligence on the height of it), so I quick photoshopped the most recent story.

[Destino]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/16/amanda-todd-bully-anonymous-suicide_n_1969792.html



Amanda Todd's Alleged Bully Named By Anonymous After Teen's Tragic Suicide

Hacktivist group Anonymous has reportedly tracked down the man who bullied Amanda Todd, a 15-year-old Canadian girl who committed suicide after suffering torment that led to depression and anxiety.

Anonymous named Todd's alleged bully on Monday in a post on Pastebin.com. The accusers allege that the man who targeted Todd, made her flash him and then turned her life into a living nightmare is a 30-year-old from New Westminster, British Columbia. The post describes him as the man who "extorted amanda todd for pictures. This is the pedophile that social engineered Amanda Todd into supplying him nude pictures."

Anonymous also revealed his address.

Vice magazine posted information that reportedly further links Todd to the alleged bully, including Google Map screenshots of his house, his Facebook profile, chat conversations and screenshots from a "jailbait" website account supposedly tied to the man.

Vice reports that Anonymous got involved in tracking down Todd's bully after nude autopsy photos of deceased Amanda Todd leaked online.

[pjfootballer]

Jumbo will have to do that.

Oh, I know you weren't. I'm not saying you were downplaying anything, or being thoughtless or mean. I know you are not that kind of person. :cheers:

I was just commenting on the natural human tendency to romanticize the past and despair about the present. :whoknows:

Ok. No problem. :cheers:

[RVAbrendan]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/16/amanda-todd-bully-anonymous-suicide_n_1969792.html

That dude is screwed......

[Koolblue13]

That dude is screwed......

He'll probably wish he was dead, but not in the awful way that poor girl did.

[afkidd]

Oh crap, so I just google imaged her name and clicked on a picture that would certainly be considered child porn. WTF do I do?

oh you going to jail now...you going to jail now...you going to jail...TIGER PUNCH!

[mistertim]

Anonymous strikes again! Hope the guy goes to jail (assuming they found the right person).

[skinsgirl26]

This story is so heartbreaking.

Just because someone needs attention, doesn't mean they are an attention whore or selfish person. Most kids suffering from depression can't even bring themselves to ask for help and she put her story out there for everyone to see.

I haven't read all of the articles because the few I've read actually made me cry, but there was one line that said anti-depressants and therapy didn't work. I was just wondering if anyone knew anything more about her (failed) treatment because it didn't seem like there was much done to help her mentally. It seems as if she was close with her dad, but did her family do anything after she posted the video? I'm just curious about this. It just seems to me that more should have been done than just switching schools so she wasn't physically abused, though I obviously have no idea what would have helped her.

And shame on the few who said that suicide is selfish (a lot of people continue living with/suffering from depression because they don't want to hurt their loved ones by killing themselves, which just proves how tormented one must be to go through with it) I'm glad most of the people on here don't seem to share that point of view.

[Predicto]

I haven't read all of the articles because the few I've read actually made me cry, but there was one line that said anti-depressants and therapy didn't work.

As I understand it, many antidepressants don't work the same way (or at all) on children and adolescents as they do on adults. :whoknows:

[Destino]

He'll probably wish he was dead, but not in the awful way that poor girl did.

Yeah if that's the right guy, then he has no one to blame but himself for whatever trouble finds him.

[GhostofSparta]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/16/amanda-todd-bully-anonymous-suicide_n_1969792.html

Well, he's going down. Anon might have a short attention span, but for that brief time they focus on you they can make your life a hell you couldn't previously imagine.

And yet, somehow, this guys deserves so much worse than what he's about to get from them...

[zoony]

I hope they're right