View Full Version : Gilber gets called out by Kwame
February-22nd-2004, 11:16 PM
Seems like Jordan is on his side
This is what Iíve been saying about Gilbert all along. He has some talent but he isnít a mature point guard and it hurts the team having him lead it. Jordan must see potenial in him so he is trying to change his ways; only Gilbert isnít changing. Blake is a more mature PG then Gilbert. Blake looks more like Kidd then Gilbert. They should run Blake and Gilbert or Blake and Dixon.
Without Hughes on the court with him, Hughes learned PG last year after being a SG, Gilbert doesnít do well for the team at that position. Great point guard first get the team working, read who is hot that day and feed them, then bring what the team is missing. See Magic, Kidd, Stockton.
Gilbert just makes to many bad shots, bad passes and turnovers.
Why come down the court and throw one up with youíre a .373 % shooter.
You toss it inside and let someone toss it back out to you so you have your feet set. I saw them do this once and it worked. When Gilbert receives a pass and shoots, he makes a lot more then when he just tosses it up. I have posted about how people will get pissed off about this and now it looks like they are going public. Good point guards bring teams together and make everyone around them better. Doesnít look like Gilbert is doing that.
They need to feed it inside to Kwame, or pass and drive and so they can dish it to Haywood.
BROWN 2-4 373% Season Shooting %
HAYWOOD 1-2 483% Season Shooting %
GILBERT 7-21 496% Season Shooting %
Your 2 centers shoot 6 times and your PG shoots 21. Yoo G, give up the rock.
This season is officially over. Cleveland and Miami are moving up into the last slots. The Wiz doesnít even know who they are yet. Itís sad.
These pieces mentally and BB style donít fit. I guess well see what if anything changes before the year is done. See whatís working and what isnít. Jefferyís is still improving.
February-23rd-2004, 05:42 PM
i dont think any of these players on in a position to be bitching
February-24th-2004, 09:10 AM
Thats the most heart Kwame has shown since he has been here
February-24th-2004, 09:30 AM
the only reason I was against signing arenas was that I had heard that he was selfish last year while playing for a contract. I read in SI that antawn jamison was b1tching about how he never passed last year and was playing to put up numbers in his walk year.
Hopefully he matures since we guaranteed him 67 million
February-24th-2004, 09:31 PM
Brown said veteran players and coaches are going to have to take the lead if the Wizards are to end their skid.
"It can't come from me," Brown said Sunday night. "People don't respect me. I'm a third-year guy. It's got to come from a coach. We've got guys in here seven-, six-year vets. They've got to step up to the plate."
Arenas, on Sunday, said that looking for help elsewhere, especially at this point of the season, isn't the answer.
"This is our job," Arenas said. "We have to come out and play hard every minute we're out there. It has nothing to do with the coaching staff. It has nothing to do with anything. Individually you have to do what it takes to stay focused for 48 minutes."
The lack of veteran guidance has been a concern of Jordan's for months. He said he and the coaching staff have tried different lineups and varying forms of motivation, but nothing is as effective as players holding each other accountable.
( oh great. So Kwame thinks that because he is only a 3 yrs player, he can't lead. How about you lead becuase you are getting better and proving it on the court and becuase you are the over all #1 pick of a draft. Does LB lead. Of course he does. Grow some larger balls Kwame. Kwame doesn't need to step aside for Gilbert. I think Kwame had it right and Gilbert should chill out and pass the dame ball more. ) Though young. Kwame, Haywood, Thomas, Dixon and Blake are the heart of this team, Hughes is a player and you can trade anyone else and I wouldnt really care. Unless Gilbert learns how to play well with others, he can go. Jerry is good. I wouldnt mind seeing him stay but it wouldnt kill me if he left. The rest are young role players who havent shown me any heart. They could grow into good role players but a BB player without heart is like Pipen before Jordan cast him in steal. Just a migrane baby. They are a dime a dozen.
February-25th-2004, 02:41 PM
You and I are in total accord.
I think the Wizards can be a Sacramento, Nets type team, when they get all the parts.
Blake is flatly the best pure point guard on the team. They are a better team when he plays point then Areanas.
Personally, to me the only three players on that team I would build around and keep would be Blake, Dixon, Kwame and Etan. Etan plays with a lot of heart and emotion. You can have the rest.
Basketball is about chemistry. This team has no chemistry. I actually side with Brown because ultimately, this is going to be his team.
The problem is we gave a lot of money to Areanas, so we are stuck with him. He plays out of control. When he's on, he can be incredible. Stack, Hughes and Gilbert are all the same kind of players. Very streaky.
The Wizards need to bring some Euro style players that move that pass well,, shoot shoot well, and can play some defense. They also need a banger that can really hit the boards.
A lot of people may not like Laetner because he can be a defensive liability. But, he's deadly with the mid range jumper and plays smart basketball.
I don't think Jordan is doing a good job of finding the right mix for this team. To me he seems to playing guys based on contracts and not necessarily who are the most productive players.
February-25th-2004, 10:56 PM
I agree with your view on who Jordan plays though at least for a game he seemed to do something different.
You mentioned the players you would keep.
I agree with all of them based on talent, potential, BB smarts and like I always mention, heart.
What about Haywood? At the end of last year I would have said let him go mostly because his feet were to slow and he didnt show the above mentioned qualities. After this year, I would keep him around a little longer. He is showing growth.
Hughes to me is similar to Haywood. He shots a lower % then I would like but he seems to have grown. With other talent around him on the court he is a nice player. I just dont like the way he plays when he is all they have and he feels like he has to shot 20 times a game.
So what did you think of the Toranto game? Ultimately it was ugly. They should have blow that injured team off the flow. What I thaught was interesting is the game they played the first half. I was like Jordan said, hey, this season is probably over so lets build the future. Lets get our bigs the ball and focus on the inside game. This is what Ive been saying they should do. You can see they arent well practiced at getting the ball inside and making good passes but for the most part, you could see how it would be effective. Maybe Jordan said, Hey Gilbert, we know you can score but lets work on you being a PG. Try not shooting at all and just focus on your teammates and read the game. This is what he needs the most work doing. Once he gets that, he can turn on the scoring, which he did at the end of the game when they needed it.
Though ugly, I like what they worked on tonight. Minus the turnovers because this is a new style for them, I saw a lot of possitives. Add the fact that none of the regular shooter were perticularly hot. Jerry, Dixon, Blake were all kind of off and knight usually shots bette then he did. It's odd that none of them would have a hot hand. If even just one of them, specially Dixon would have had a normal game, they would have run away with it.
I can't believe I keep saying this lately but Jefferies is actually starting to look like a balanced player. He is more confident in his outside shot. If he keeps that going and learn to drive once in while, he may be a nice tall SF.
The biggest problem I now see, since we seem to have Gilbert in line ( at least for a game ) is, what is Jerry doing? Way to many turnovers. He has been out of sync for 4 or 5 games now.
I would like to see them try this style again against Chicago since they aren't that good. This looked kind of like a practive game. They should do it again. Keep working the bigs and let the out side game complement the inside game. If we get a normal Dixon game and they learn what inside passes arent good, they will be a lot stranger in the long run. It was low scoring but they shot 48.5 %. Gilbert still got some points thought only 7 but he did it on 3 shots instead of 21 pts on 21 shots.
February-25th-2004, 11:27 PM
Good news, Gilbert says he will keep playing this way.
Though I'm not sure his attitude is in line, at least the team will get a PG playing like a PG. Dixon will pick it up next game. Jerry wont slump forever and then maybe, just maybe Gilbert will feel when the team needs his points and bring them when needed and in the flow of the game. Hopefully it comes together quickly so he can see this is the better way to use his talent in the scheme of a team game. Maybe he will learn the gray between the black and white.
February-25th-2004, 11:43 PM
Who is Kwame to call out anyone? He is the worst number overall pick in NBA history. He had Michael Jordan as a teammate and Patrick Ewing as an assistant coach. That's 2 of the 50 greatest players in NBA history and Kwame didn't do squat with that kind of leadership.
Haywood is weak. They should have gotten rid of him and kept Jahidi White. He is much more aggressive. He even got praised for the job he did defending Shaq. Sorry, but I would rather see Gilbert Arenas shoot the ball than see Kwame or Brenden on the court.
February-25th-2004, 11:47 PM
Ok, you need to watch some games. And please, tell us what type of leadership did Ewing and MJ bring?
I gotta hear this....
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