The Wiz starting to look pretty smart now

[prophet]

Kwame Brown
last two games

30 pts 19 rbs vs the kings
27 pts 11 rbs vs the hawks

he is starting to mature

People forget that it took J. Oneil 4 years to show any promise.

[a_good_brotha]

Originally posted by airSkins91
People forget that it took J. Oneil 4 years to show any promise.

That is true. Although O'Neil, spent the 1st few years with a loaded Portland team and was plagued by injuries. But maybe Kwame is starting to come around.

[swissarmy47]

I was fortunate enough to have gotten free tickets to tonight's game (2 $80 tix for free) and that was the best I've ever seen Kwame play. I did not see him a couple nights ago when he set his career highs though.

Without taking into consideration anything else, if I were just going from how the 20 or so guys who played in the game tonight played, Kwame was far and away the most dominant player. Especially in the first quarter, there was just nothing Atlanta could do to stop him. He had like 14 points in the first quarter and then took a real long breather on the bench. I had doubted him up until tonight but he really showed some promise. Needs to work on his hands a bit though. He would have had at least two if not three more buckets tonight if he could catch. Was open a few times and just dropped the pass...

[Jay Master Jay]

2 games at the end of the year does not a season make. Kwame will have to give us at least 50 games to prove himself worthy of a number overall pick. Look at James and Anthony they average 20 points. Kwame sucks and thats a fact.

[prophet]

Originally posted by Jay Master Jay
2 games at the end of the year does not a season make. Kwame will have to give us at least 50 games to prove himself worthy of a number overall pick. Look at James and Anthony they average 20 points. Kwame sucks and thats a fact.

so i guess Jermaine O'neil sucks as well

his first 4 seasons stats
ppg 4.1 rbpg 2.8
ppg 4.5 rbpg 3.4
ppg 2.5 rbpg 2.7
ppg 3.9 rbpg 3.3

[The Wicked Wop]

Good point airskins, fact is this a young beat up team that is experiencing the growing pains of learning how to win. I don't blame some fans from being less then enthusiastic about a few wins late in the year. However, I think it shows really talented this team is becoming. I mean come on Kwame getting career highs playing against Weber then backing that up the next game with 27 points. The amazing thing is how big he's playing......the kid is clearly becoming a force down low. Added to that his shooting. Any time your big man is shoot around 70% only good things can happen. Really besides injury, the biggest problem this team must overcome is turnovers. I've never seen a pro team (and most big time college programs for that matter) been so careless with the ball. If they overcome that hurlde this team can be deadly, especially if they can get another imposing, consistant big man to help Kwame down low.

[spiral]

kwame has no passion for the game and if your seeing what you think is improvement,well...... say no to drugs

[The Wicked Wop]

Spiral, I must say you know nothing about basketball. Define passion for the game to me......The dudes around the ball all the time, either grabbing rebounds, making nice moves to the basket, and doing so with authority....plus he's starting to add a little outside shooting as well. Now maybe hes not the rah rah guy on the team, but that not his personality, and that does not define heart and passion for the game.

[spiral]

last year during the off season,while some of the wiz younger players were off playing summer ball,trying to improve thier game. kwame didnt stick it out. he had more important things to do like DRUNK DRIVING.

[The Wicked Wop]

Were talking about right now....not last summer. Sure the kid made some mistakes....the point is what is he doing right now. He's playing at as high a level as Wizard.

[RTerps2002]

Kwame is garbage... I don't care how many points and rebounds he had against 2 teams that play no defense

[spiral]

like I said( just say no! )

[Bugs']

Very smart and intelligent comments, "he sucks!", "he's garbage", well the numbers don't lie and he has improved year after year and is continuing to improve leaps and bounds the second half of this year and I expect him to continue to do so and become a solid low post force. Maybe, he will never live up to the #1 overall pick in a draft status but I think he could be an allstar next year or the year after....I do liken him alot to Jermaine O'Neil and his progress...

So to the guys who say he sucks and is garbage I say that you are and get your heads out of your:moon:

[NotInOurHouse]

Kwame is actually further along then Jermaine Oneal at this stage...And actually he should be since he was a number 1 pick...The same can be said that Lebron is further along then Jordan, Magic, Bird, Tracy, and Kobe at the age of 19 which he is now.

[galentjm]

Originally posted by Jay Master Jay
2 games at the end of the year does not a season make. Kwame will have to give us at least 50 games to prove himself worthy of a number overall pick. Look at James and Anthony they average 20 points. Kwame sucks and thats a fact.

You're comparing a power foward to two guards, which is like comparing apples to orangoutangs. It is well known that big men take longer to develop than guards.

[galentjm]

Originally posted by RTerps2002
Kwame is garbage... I don't care how many points and rebounds he had against 2 teams that play no defense

Regardless of what you think about the King's defense they have the best record in the league for a reason. Albeit that CWebb is still getting back into playing shape, Kwame lit him up.

And if you look at Kwame's numbers this season some of his best games have come against some very worthy opponents. His dropped 25 on Jermaine O'Neal in Jan.,18 against the Lakers at the end of Feb., 17 again against the Pacers, etc..

[Funkyalligator]

Anyone that says Kwame is putting numbers against inferior competition is an idiot..he actually tends to have big games both offensively and defensively when he is playing directly against some all-star players...i.e. Jermaine ONeal...C-Webb....Kenyon Martin....etc...He is slowly becoming a force.....I happen to think that he has a bigger upside than ONeal because his frame is bigger and he is a little more athletic.

[REDALERT]

Funky, your absolutely correct.

Kwame could be a major player in the NBA, if he only appiles himself, constantly. If I were selected by the greatest player to ever play the game, and promise him he won't be dissapointed. I would atleast continue to work hard at my game and try to prove him wrong after the sour relationship between the 2.

Also, as Funky stated. Kwame always play well (Most of the time)against quality opponents. But also as someone stated, he's inconsistent. Actually, he's no better than the other high school-players selected by the Bulls the same year. If you check out or monitor some of the games the Bulls play. That other High school PF sometime have breakout games as well. But he's also inconsistent and looks like total garbage at times. Yes! Kwame's the same way but can be consistent with hard work and hitting the weight room and working on his stamina.


But yes! atleast Kwame's confidence is getting better. And with confidence and motivation from other teammates, Kwame could continue to blossom. But fella's, it's the end of the season and losing teams sometimes give their all down the stretch of a losing season. The real test comes at the middle of the road or the beginning of the season. Or, during hard fought games when playoff contentions are at stake. That's when the true ballers show-up.

Will see come next year. If the Wizards keep everyone intact and add to the mix. This team can continue to grow and mature, that's including Stackhouse.

[REDALERT]

GO WIz...

[Bugs']

Well said RED ALERT and funkyalligator......

:cheers:

[bulldog]

If Grunfeld didn't trade Brown before the deadline it is because Jordan thinks Kwame is part of the future with the Wizards, to think otherwise is foolish.

Michael Jordan drafted Brown and the current management doesn't feel any great pressure to keep him unless he is capable of helping the team.

In terms of who Brown is playing against to get his numbers, I would remind people that a year ago the idea of Brown getting 30 points and 19 rebounds against ANYONE in the NBA was somewhat far-fetched :laugh:

Now, people are complaining it was ONLY the Kings and Hawks? :)

Tell me it ain't so.

[skinsfanforlife]

Thats right, kwame is showing promise and guess what Lets thank michale Jordan. MJ saw something in Kwame and he picked him number one overall. Another reason why abe pollin made a mistake letting MJ go and as long as Abe Pollin is the owner of the wiz, the wiz will be at best avg or below avg.

[Gamebreaker]

I think you make stupid comments on purpose. If MJ would've stayed Kwame would be playing horribly, and on the bench for all of 5 minutes in every game. While a bunch of veterans lumbered up and down the floor, and Doug Collins shouting directions with nobody listening.

The ONLY reason Kwame is playing better is because MJ is never coming back to the MCI center. He was the very reason why it's taken him this long to regain his confidence. He be somewhat of a chump, but MJ knew his actions weren't helping him and he continued criticize him anyway.

Thank God Mr. Ego is long gone.