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Glenn X
June-1st-2004, 08:26 AM
http://www.nationalreview.com/goldberg/goldberg200405280814.asp

Patriotism & the Press
If Fox goes overboard sometimes, it’s only compared to a new standard Ernie Pyle wouldn’t recognize.
by Jonah Goldberg
May 28, 2004

In the process of debating the merits of publishing, and now continually hyping, the Abu Ghraib photos, I keep hearing that it is contrary to the American journalistic tradition to let patriotism or concern about the negative effects of bad news interfere with coverage. I have no idea where this idea comes from.

Take Ernie Pyle, perhaps the most universally revered of America's war correspondents. The Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist was not the sort of objective chronicler of the facts the Columbia Journalism School churns out today. No, he was the sort of ink-stained wretch who proudly put on a military uniform and wrote glowing tributes to "our" brave boys at the front for whom he used his column to agitate for higher pay. As Michelle Malkin wrote a few years ago, "The writing that earned Ernie Pyle a Pulitzer Prize in 1944 would have gotten him fired today."

Indeed, most of the press in World War II donned military uniforms — and proudly. They agreed to considerable censorship, which Walter Cronkite insists was fair and reasonable.

Ask yourself how that squares with, say, today's press corps which, after 9/11, agonized over the ethical quandary of whether it was appropriate to wear a tiny American flag on their lapels?

Or consider I. F. Stone. He wouldn't make my list of great journalists, but he's on many people's lists. Peter Jennings dubbed Stone, "a journalist's journalist." The Los Angeles Times said he was the "conscience of investigative journalists." Former New York Times columnist Anthony Lewis gushed that he was "the reporter who taught us to penetrate the squid-ink of official truth."

Well, be that as it may, he was also among the most partisan journalists of the 20th century, falsely accusing the United States of using chemical weapons during the Korean War and apologizing — if not openly rooting — for Stalin, Mao, the Viet Cong, and Castro.

That such a man could be the "conscience of investigative journalism" should tell you where on the ideological spectrum the media's conscience resides and how the press came to redefine good journalism.

But my aim isn't to score ideological points about liberal bias. This isn't about attacking liberals. Most of the "giants" of journalism were, after all, liberals protecting liberal politicians and liberal objectives.

For example, for all the self-congratulation that's come with the press's "bravery" in running the images from Abu Ghraib, you might think the press has always stuck to a standard of telling hard truths during wartime. Nonsense.

There were more than 35,000 pictures of FDR taken. Two show him in a wheelchair. Why? Because the press almost unanimously agreed that — despite the huge news value — depicting FDR as a cripple would be bad for the war effort. The few dissenting photographers from that consensus were routinely blocked or deliberately jostled by the senior photographers so as to shield FDR from embarrassment and the public from its "right to know."

Maybe the press was right to show restraint. Maybe it was wrong. But at least journalists didn't think their best work was work that treated America as a hostile power. The Ernie Pyle Journalism Award, for example, recognizes journalists who show "unwavering support and loyalty to the United States of America in the pursuit of fair and accurate reporting."

Fox News offers a lesson here. I know the network's detractors think it's a right-wing propaganda factory. And, I certainly agree that much of Fox's programming is conservative (though liberals' sudden concern with ideologically loaded coverage is ironic). But at least one of the things that has made Fox News successful isn't that it's right-wing, it is that it's populist.

This is an important distinction. From the beginning, Fox anchors weren't ashamed to wear American flags on their lapels. They aren't afraid to refer to American troops as "our brave fighting men and women" or some such. They aren't terrified that they will lose their objectivity merit badges if they sound like they hope America wins.

If Fox goes overboard sometimes, it's only compared to a new standard Ernie Pyle wouldn't recognize.

In 1987, for example, Peter Jennings and CBS's Mike Wallace explained on a PBS show that they wouldn't warn American troops they were about to be ambushed. When Wallace was asked if saving American lives might be a higher duty than getting 30 seconds of videotape, he snapped back: "No. You don't have a higher duty. No. No. You're a reporter!"

More recently, after the 9/11 attacks, David Westin, the president of ABC News, got into a lot of hot water with the public — though not much with fellow journalists — for refusing to express an opinion on whether the 9/11 attack on the Pentagon was legitimate: "As a journalist I feel strongly that's something that I should not be taking a position on."

Copyright (c) 2004 Tribune Media Services

gbear
June-1st-2004, 09:11 AM
Two quick questions spring to mind.

First, one could argue that breaking Watergate was incredibly damaging to our country. I suspect that incident more than any other in the past century destroyed our faith in politicans. At what point do reporters have an obligation to the people to let them know what is going on? IS their loyalty to the intistution that is the US gov or is it to the people they are reporting to? The problem I think is the answer is both, but I weigh more heavily on the side of responcibility to the people.

Second, to what extent is the press ability to get information dependant on them not just being a US propaganda machine or perceived as a US propaganda machine? I think this is especially the case over seas. How much would you have reported on record to Iraq's propaganda machine during the war?.

funnyperson1
June-1st-2004, 09:20 AM
Patriotism is a good thing, however it should not interfere with the truth.

I don't know about you but I ****ing hate reading propaganda. News establishments have a responsibility to report the truth to their readers.

The only way out of that is if it is information that will get US soldiers killed such as our military plans.

If the govt. is lying to us though, I want to know.

Larry
June-1st-2004, 09:59 AM
Just (yet another) disjointed collection of opinions.

Yes, reporters do have obligations to their country, not just to "the scoop". To pick an extreme example, if a reporter knows that people are about to die, then he has an obligation to let people know, and try to prevent it.

That does not mean that reporters have an obligation to censor news that will make the Powers That Be look bad.

(To use another example of the Press' self-censorship: Kennedy's affairs weren't exactly unknown to the press corps. In those days, though, the rule about covering politicians' private lives was that what, say, a Congressman does on the floor is news, but what he does in the bedroom is not. (Unless Congress is debating making adultry legal.) Too much "reporting" these days is nothing more than celebrity gossip.

Re: not answering the question "Was the Pentagon a legitimate target?" How about Larry's answer. Yes, the Pentagon is a "military" target. Say what you will about terrorists targeting civilians, in this case they actually picked a military target. (Although, I've got a problem with them using civilians as weapons.)

(By the same token, the White House is also a military target, for the same reason that Saddam's a POW: He's his country's commander-in-chief, which means he's 'military'.)

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Re: The 'patriotic' nature of Fox News.

I'll agree, reporters arguing over whether it's appropriate to wear a flag is rediculous. But there's a difference between considering the military implications of a story, and becoming a propaganda outlet.

I recall reading that, in the latest SotU, W referred three times to 50 tons of WMDs being found on a turky farm in (Libia?).

The next day, the White House quietly admitted that it was 20 tons, of empty cannisters and warheads, stored in over a dozen locations.

I'd bet you, right now, that not only has Fox never mentioned the "correction", but that they're continuing to carry the announcement in the inaccurate form.

They've done it before, trumpeting the "discovery of WMDs in Iraq", and then not mentioning that what they found were empty tanks that "could have been used" to make WMDs.

aREDSKIN
June-1st-2004, 10:22 AM
Originally posted by funnyperson1
I don't know about you but I ****ing hate reading propaganda. News establishments have a responsibility to report the truth to their readers.



And where did you ever come up with this outlandish idea my lad? A recent USSC court has adjudicated the a "news" organization is under no obligation whatsoever to report the truth or "honestly". If you read the papers & watch the news that should convince you that they don't.

Glenn X
June-1st-2004, 10:45 AM
http://www.nationalreview.com/comment/schaefer200406010813.asp

Then & Now
D-Day in the New York Times.
by David Lewis Schaefer
June 01, 2004

Six days before the 60th anniversary of the D-Day landings, the A&E network, to publicize its Memorial Day movie Ike, ran a reproduction in the New York Times of the Times's front page for June 6, 1944. Anyone comparing that day's wartime Times with today's had to be struck by the way earlier Times editors and headline writers, unlike their current counterparts, openly identified with the cause of America and its allies. Front-page subheads included "Nazis Say Their Shock Units Are Battling Our Parachutists" and "Allies Pass Rome, Cross Tiber as Foe Quits Bank Below City;" the caption of a map showing the reported site of the landings cited broadcasts of the German "enemy"; and the summary of an NBC pool reporter's story on the parachutists' landings quoted him as saying that he had flown across the English Channel with the first group of planes "to take our fighting men into Europe."

By contrast, the Times's Memorial Day editorial for 2004 observed that what the deaths of America's soldiers in its past wars "accomplished is written into the fabric of this country, no matter how purposeful or purposeless they may have seemed at the time." (Nothing in this sentence indicates that deaths that seemed purposeless then appear any more purposeful now, and what the deaths accomplished is unspecified.) The Times editorialist maintained, for no apparent reason, that "many grieving families" must deal with the "shock" of suddenly discovering that "the devotion of soldier to their unit...was stronger than anything the family itself could offer." (How could the editorialist know that?) And he (or she?) added that "soldiers fighting in the large causes tend to die for the small causes — for a sense of duty to one another, the building block upon which armies are built." (How can one separate the sense of duty to one's fellow soldiers from the broader sense of duty to one's country as well as one's family that led war hero Pat Tillman to spurn a lucrative NFL contract to sign up for service that led to his death in Afghanistan?)

Elsewhere on the May 31, 2004, editorial page, a Massachusetts reader wrote to applaud the Times's most partisan columnist, Paul Krugman, by observing that "we are witnessing, with the Iraq war...what happens when the press stops asking hard questions and demanding explanations." She held that "the press has a responsibility...to be adversarial to any sitting administration. It is our only hope of keeping power in check and the government honest."

Obviously, the 1944 Times would not have met the standard set by this reader — or, apparently, the standards of its present-day editors. As the distinguished journalist and political analyst Robert D. Kaplan has observed, the mass media in today's America are able to constitute themselves the judges of their country's foreign policies based on a "cosmopolitan" doctrine embodying the supposedly impartial application of "universal moral principles" only because they are unaccountable for the actual defense of our nation's well-being, as well as the cause of justice in the world.

Today, no less than in 1944, the United States is at war for the most fundamental of reasons: because it has been (repeatedly) attacked. The war in Iraq is part of the same necessary struggle to root out Islamic terrorists and self-aggrandizing despots who threaten us and our way of life that led us to liberate Afghanistan from the Taliban and al Qaeda. While the means by which that broader struggle is conducted is a legitimate and necessary subject of journalistic analysis, it is unlikely that in 1944 the Times and other prestigious media would have let themselves be diverted from the main issues by focusing on so-called "atrocities" like the humiliation of prisoners in Baghdad's Abu Ghraib prison. Contrary to the letter writer quoted above, what generally keeps America's government "honest" and prevents the abuse of power is our constitutional system, and not chiefly the press. Media figures who set themselves up as supreme judges of their country's military conduct in its own defense forget the dependence of their own freedoms on the people's willingness to risk the supreme sacrifice on its behalf.

— David Lewis Schaefer is professor of political science at Holy Cross College.

Glenn X
June-1st-2004, 11:39 AM
Originally posted by NavyDave
I question the patriotism of the press alot nowadays.

They put their political agenda ahead of the country and at the expense of my guys in country.
In light of this...


In 1987... [ABC's] Peter Jennings and CBS's Mike Wallace explained on a PBS show that they wouldn't warn American troops they were about to be ambushed. When Wallace was asked if saving American lives might be a higher duty than getting 30 seconds of videotape, he snapped back: "No. You don't have a higher duty. No. No. You're a reporter!"
...I don't see how anyone could blame you for feeling that way, ND.

Cskin
June-1st-2004, 12:09 PM
It's quite apparent that less and less of what's reported by the Network news and mainstream print media is accurate and unbiased.

Look no further than Mr. Peter Jennings himself. His nightly newscasts ALWAYS start with a negative story about Iraq... a pointed slap at the current administration. Can anyone remember when Jennings did a story about the 1,000 new schools in Iraq? The upgraded hospitals? The more reliable power and utility grids? Point made!!!!

Again look at Peter Jennings. He's most recent segment on obesity in America...."How to get fat without even trying". The title itself explains his agenda. It's someone else's fault that you get fat... the ease of it makes it not your responsibility. Typical Liberal Socialism.

Destino
June-1st-2004, 08:40 PM
This article would only come out when Bush is in office. If Clinton or any dem was in office, they'd be demading harder coverage.

They weren't saying a damn thing when we were in Kosova and Clinton was being attacked all the time.