View Full Version : Poll: Democrat or Republican....(sigh) or other
manichispanic
September-2nd-2004, 09:33 AM
vote people
Hitman56
September-2nd-2004, 09:46 AM
You left out a spot for independent (as in no party affilliation). I just went with other party.
PatFischer37
September-2nd-2004, 09:59 AM
a poll like this will in the end be heavily in favor of the Repubicans....a lot of Virginia residents are extremeskin members
ntotoro
September-2nd-2004, 10:04 AM
I went with "other," althought I'm technically a registered independent.
I don't believe in the current party system's definitions, which seem to be too stringent to me. I don't agree 100% with the policies of either party. It's like I agree with certain points of both, but disagree with enough fundamental beliefs of both that either part would try to kick me out... :laugh:
I'm against abortion, but for the creation of a Palestinian state. I'm fervently anti-union (the NEA, in particular), but believe Teachers aren't given in return what they put into their careers. I believe in the first amendment, but don't believe that things you say are protected by it. You reap what you sow.
I'm a walking, breathing, functioning contradiction, in other words... :laugh:
Nick
WallyG3
September-2nd-2004, 10:08 AM
I'm Independant. I'm not voting.
EDIT--
I mean I'm not voting in this poll. I do vote. :)
The Rook
September-2nd-2004, 10:32 AM
Independent, but anti-Bush.
:read:
flashback
September-2nd-2004, 11:04 AM
I registered Independent after the 2000 election, when I became too disgusted with both parties to belong to either of them.
I consider myself a fiscal conservative. I don't like spending almost 30% of the money the government collects just to maintain the debt. Bush inherited a surplus in 2001. He set a record for the largest budget deficit in the history of our country in 2003. He broke that record in 2004. So there's absolutely no way I can justify voting for Bush.
Socially, I'm pretty liberal. If its none of my business, its none of my business. Please stop spending my tax dollars on $7 million helicopters to keep Mexican pot in Mexico. If 2 people I don't even know want to get married, why would I change the constitution to prevent them. So, again, there's no way I can vote for Bush.
I'll vote for Kerry, but I won't become a Democrat. I might support Swarzenegger for a 2nd term out here on the left coast, because everything I heard about him before this convention was that he was a pragmatist. If he switches to the right-wing party line, I'll look for someone else.
Kilmer17
September-2nd-2004, 11:07 AM
Im a registered independant. But Im voting a couple of times for Bush.
Skip to my lou
September-2nd-2004, 11:39 AM
Independent......
Where are the websites that ask you like 20 questions, and then tell you what you are e.g. Conservative, Liberal, Moderate, etc.
Phat Hog
September-2nd-2004, 11:41 AM
Democrat. I am not ‘anti Kerry’… but haven’t thrown my vote to him yet. I am hopeful that the debates will give me more clarity as to where he stands on issues.
SnyderShrugged
September-2nd-2004, 11:41 AM
Originally posted by ntotoro
I went with "other," althought I'm technically a registered independent.
I don't believe in the current party system's definitions, which seem to be too stringent to me. I don't agree 100% with the policies of either party. It's like I agree with certain points of both, but disagree with enough fundamental beliefs of both that either part would try to kick me out... :laugh:
I'm against abortion, but for the creation of a Palestinian state. I'm fervently anti-union (the NEA, in particular), but believe Teachers aren't given in return what they put into their careers. I believe in the first amendment, but don't believe that things you say are protected by it. You reap what you sow.
I'm a walking, breathing, functioning contradiction, in other words... :laugh:
Nick
Wow Nick!
You summed up my feelings to a tee! Great Post!
I'm curious....
Who will you be voting for this election? It doesnt matter, but I like to compare my rationale with those who are like-minded at times. Thanks!
SnyderShrugged
September-2nd-2004, 11:43 AM
Originally posted by Phat Hog
Democrat. I am not ‘anti Kerry’… but haven’t thrown my vote to him yet. I am hopeful that the debates will give me more clarity as to where he stands on issues.
Smart Voter alert!!
I wish more would look at it the same! So many vote solely out of emotion and press coverage. You are to be commended!
ntotoro
September-2nd-2004, 11:48 AM
Originally posted by skin-n-vegas
Wow Nick!
You summed up my feelings to a tee! Great Post!
I'm curious....
Who will you be voting for this election? It doesnt matter, but I like to compare my rationale with those who are like-minded at times. Thanks!
Not sure yet, to be honest. I have a bad feeling it'll be a coin-flip once I walk in the booth... :laugh:
Seriously, though... the thought of either Alfred E Newman or Lurch as President scares me. The problem is it's gonna' be one or the other. One is the devil you know, the other is the devil you don't. Logic would tell me to stick with the one I already know (Bush), but I haven't committed yet.
Nick
SkinsHokie Fan
September-2nd-2004, 11:48 AM
Republican since I was 9 years old. Figured it out on my own since my parents never had any interest in politics (they ask me who they should vote for)
However as I got older my beliefs have become more libertarian.
I am more socially liberal today then I was in high school. Probably more fiscally conservative also.
twa
September-2nd-2004, 12:38 PM
Indepedent ...for Bush,Kerry has shown me nothing.:puke:
skinsfanbu
September-2nd-2004, 01:16 PM
Dem, but open minded. I really wished McCain would have joined Kerry's ticket. About the two devils..you know one is a devil, but the other may not be. May even be an angel?!?
RabidFan
September-2nd-2004, 01:23 PM
Independent but anti Bush .......i wish Mccain won in 2000 but we all know he is just unpatriotic (per W in 2000 campaign :) ) j/k
CTaylor42
September-2nd-2004, 02:02 PM
Republican since I was 16 years old.
Zen-like Todd
September-2nd-2004, 03:08 PM
Strongly independent. Essentially, depending on where I am (real life, not extremeskins), people either think I'm very liberal or very conservative.
I'm a strong freemarketer, leaning towards libertarian on economic issues, although some people would interpret that incorrectly, and I have clear exceptions to those views on specific points. I hesitate to say fiscally conservative, although people seem to throw that around. Its a term that has changed in meaning over time, and doesnt mean what people think it does.
Socially moderate, but not a centrist, per se. Its pretty simple. I take each issue on its merits. I think about it, consider it, and draw my conclusion. So I'm all over the board in the sense that my social views swing wildly back and forth between party lines, although I'm logically consistent in the underpinning ethical thought process involved in making the decisions.
Strong on defense, although not underpinned by some warmongering attitude or lack of compassion for the horrors associated with warfare, but rather ethical consistency, pragmatism, a strong inclination towards enabling self-determination, a long term outlook on such matters, and an abhorrence of slippery slope appeasement.
Right now I'm at one of the most liberal universities in the country, so most think I'm a raging right winger. Of course when I'm home, or visting friends in other parts of the country, they think I'm a bleeding heart liberal secularist. Silly me.
Sea Bass
September-2nd-2004, 03:56 PM
Sounds like a lot of people would vote for a third party candidate, but perhaps there is not a good one and/or they feel it would be "throwing their vote away."
SkinsHokie Fan
September-2nd-2004, 04:01 PM
Interesting way to look at things Todd.
I try and have the same logic in all of the social issues although like you I go all over the place. While I am fairly religious I still don't think a gov't has the right to say no about things such as abortion or gay marriage. Yet religously I hate both those things.
And Lothar I do believe you are right. There needs to be a Jessee Ventura like candidate on the national level to break the duopoloy Dems and Reps have
Hitman56
September-2nd-2004, 04:05 PM
Oh my, can you imagine what Karl Rove would do to Jesse Ventura or Ross Perot?
Darth Tater
September-2nd-2004, 04:09 PM
Problem is that we've been convinced, rightly or wrongly, that even if there was a credible third-party candidate out there who could win the general election, would not be able to really implement their agenda.
SkinsHokie Fan
September-2nd-2004, 04:20 PM
I don't know what he could do to either of those guys Hitman. I guess you can make fun of Ventura for being a wrestler and Perot for big ears.
I ended up really liking Perot in 1992 after watching his infomercials. I think he actually would have made a fine president domestically and would have learned the international game.
The Perot factor was huge in 1992 as I believe he garnered 11 percent of the vote and 19 electoral votes
Henry
September-2nd-2004, 04:26 PM
Flashback summed up my views pretty well. I'd say I'm a left-leaning moderate/independant. I generally vote Democrat, but not always. I do believe in American exceptionalism and when the elections are over I think it's important to support our leaders. Doesn't matter what party they're from.
I am very much on the fence about this election. I probably won't decide for another few weeks, and even then I might just write in my dad or something. He's a pretty smart guy. :)
Neophyte
September-2nd-2004, 04:33 PM
Open minded but seem to list to the Republican side of things. Fiscal conservative. Not big into social activism. Strong military.
However, I am not thrilled with some of the things Bush has done with his last 4 years. Of course, I am not thrilled with what I know of Kerry's voting record the last 20 years.
I will make up my mind for sure a couple of weeks before I vote but I am guessing now it will be Bush.
Darth Tater
September-2nd-2004, 05:11 PM
Neophyte,
Actually, I'm big on social activism, just don't believe that the government should be involved.
I think the most important thing is that the government actually defend property rights from ALL who would encroach upon them. Further, the government needs to encourage personal wealth accumulation as opposed to corporate or public.
I think PROPERLY downsizing the military would make it stronger (esp. if its not used for such things a Bosnia). There is as much (maybe even more) fat in military spending as in any other area of government spending. Of course, the power projection strategy of national defense does tend to give rise to greater military needs and in a global economy where we wish to remain leaders, may be a requirement.
Painkiller
September-2nd-2004, 07:30 PM
Independent
but very Pro-Bush
:cheers:
Thiebear
September-2nd-2004, 07:32 PM
I'd vote Nader if I had no clue about what he stood for...
I would love a 5 party system like canada...
Mr. S
September-2nd-2004, 09:25 PM
im pretty liberal, so i went with other party. I will most prolly vote democrat in most elections, but I dont like big parties much and especially dont like this upcoming election much. I gotta say though, im surprised at the way this poll is turning out so far, more democrats than republicans, and a lot more 'other party' than I thought.
Mickalino
September-2nd-2004, 10:04 PM
Woo Hoo. I single-handedly broke the dead-lock tie, to give the Republicans the lead, at 28-27;)
swissarmy47
September-3rd-2004, 06:25 AM
Originally posted by PatFischer37
a poll like this will in the end be heavily in favor of the Repubicans....a lot of Virginia residents are extremeskin members
ummm... hello? I think Maryland's 2/3 Democrat population will even that out!!!
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