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bubba9497
February-2nd-2005, 01:40 PM
BALDINGER: Franchise QBs the way to go



http://warroom.sportingnews.com/nfl/articles/20050202/597943.html

From time to time, you hear the argument that you don't need a stud quarterback to win a Super Bowl. The Ravens won with Trent Dilfer. The Bucs won with Brad Johnson. Peyton Manning ... what has he won?

For starters, he has won a lot of games, including some in the playoffs. As for Dilfer and Johnson, what have they won lately? Not much. The Ravens and Bucs had great defenses, strong running games and, frankly, serviceable quarterbacks who limited their mistakes and did little else. That can work, but it's fluky when it does. It's not the way to build teams that will be in the thick of the playoffs every year. That requires a franchise quarterback.

Look at the four quarterbacks who played in the conference championship games Sunday. New England and Philadelphia win consistently with Tom Brady and Donovan McNabb. When Michael Vick is healthy, the Falcons win playoff games. When he isn't, they go 5-11. It might be early to anoint Ben Roethlisberger as a franchise guy, but you can't ask much more of a rookie quarterback than what he gave Pittsburgh during the regular season. He certainly looked like the real deal.

If the other 28 teams are wondering what they lack, most of them should look at their quarterbacks, because that was the constant among this year's final four teams. Is he someone the team can rally around? Does his performance improve each year? Do you want him as the face of the organization for the next several seasons?

A few teams -- Indianapolis and Minnesota, in particular -- can say yes. Without Manning and Daunte Culpepper, the Colts and Vikings wouldn't even sniff the playoffs. And they know they don't have to worry about the most important position on the field when they're rebuilding in the offseason. They can focus their attention and wallets on other positions in the free- agent market and the draft, and that's a huge advantage for them.

Maybe some other teams have what they need, and it just isn't apparent yet. Byron Leftwich could be fine for the Jaguars. David Carr could prove the Texans were right to make him the first pick of the draft. Rex Grossman, Joey Harrington, Kyle Boller -- it's possible there's another Brady in this bunch.

They'd better be the answers.

If not, their franchises will be set back several years.

Brian Baldinger, an offensive lineman for 12 NFL seasons, can be heard on Sporting News Radio and seen on FOX Sports. Listen online at http://radio.sportingnews.com.

Skins11
February-2nd-2005, 01:46 PM
A few teams -- Indianapolis and Minnesota, in particular -- can say yes. Without Manning and Daunte Culpepper, the Colts and Vikings wouldn't even sniff the playoffs.


And how can he possibly know this? Without Dan Marino, there was no way the Dolphins were going to playoffs next year? Oh wait, they did it with Fiedler the very next year.

Franchise QBs are great, but they fail when they try to do too much and make everything about them. When that happens, it is easier for opponents to make these teams fail.

TheSteve
February-2nd-2005, 01:50 PM
Fiedler had Ricky Williams.:doh:

Fatty P For The Pulitzer
February-2nd-2005, 01:58 PM
Originally posted by TheSteve
Fiedler had Ricky Williams.:doh:

And a defense

FBChick
February-2nd-2005, 01:59 PM
Honestly.. based on one year's QB turnout in the playoffs and now we are making trends?

Did he miss the trade offs? Place too many eggs in the QB basket and you're selling everything else on the field short, maybe too short. Frachise QBs are a smart manuever if you can find one and can hopefully keep him without breaking the bank.. but in the words of Parcells "you can't dial up 1-800 give me a quarterback"

A smarter approach is to build a well rounded team and that includes the QB position, but is not neccesarily dependent on a specific QB.

bubba9497
February-2nd-2005, 02:03 PM
its just BALLS-DINGLER

RedskinLifer
February-2nd-2005, 02:03 PM
The simple fact that Baldinger thinks a franchise QB is the way to go is enough for me to think otherwise.

What is the exact meaning of "franchise quarterback" anyway? A first rounder? A guy who wins? What does that even mean?

Skins11
February-2nd-2005, 02:17 PM
Originally posted by TheSteve
Fiedler had Ricky Williams.:doh:

Actually, Ricky Williams did not join the Dolphins until 2002. :doh: In fact, the Dolphins never made the playoffs with Ricky Williams.

Anyways, even if what you said were true... that is the whole point. You have to have a WELL-ROUNDED team, not just a franchise quarterback.

Obviously, you'd rather have a franchise QB rather than a crappy QB, but you have to look at the bigger picture and the potential costs of doing everything through your franchise QB's abilities.