With the Coles move it is essential that we get Williams if he is available

[mh83]

Forget him being gone for a year, Williams is still the best WR available, and I would be an incorrect move not to take him if he is available in the first round. This isn't any deep commentary, but WR is by far the most important need right now.

[pr11fan]

It is essential to get the best wr available in the 1st, hopefully it is Williams but if it's Edwards or Williamson the action is still the same, take them without hesitation, maybe a trade down if it's Williamson but not too far we don't want to move out of position to draft him too.

[Skins4SB]

I still believe we should trade down to acquire more draft picks and select Troy Williamson with our first. We can pick up a veteran receiver to compete with Jacobs and Williamson.

[Hooper]

Rookie receivers are far from guarantees. Hell, just look at our history drafting receivers.

[bulldog]

or it means that the Redskins are going to be very active on March 2 in locating a playmaking wide receiver in FA :)

we shall see.

[FLSKINSFAN]

Originally posted by bulldog
or it means that the Redskins are going to be very active on March 2 in locating a playmaking wide receiver in FA :)

we shall see.


Hopefully Burress is back in the fold.

[jbooma]

Most of the mocks I have seen have Edwards and Williams gone before we pick, if this is accurate then to get one of them we have to move up. Unless we swap Coles and our #1 for another teams #1 :)

[FLSKINSFAN]

I can definitely see us signing Burress, Mason, or Bruce, and still drafting a receiver at 9.

[Skins4SB]

I hope we don't get Burress. Look at last years draft. Larry Fitzgerald, Roy Williams, and Lee Evans. No one went wrong there. But of course there is a Charles Rogers or a Freddie Mitchell. That's why I think it's best to trade down and acquire more picks instead of hoping Mike Williams or Braylon Edwards is going to be the receiver they are hyped up to be.

[hercules]

Originally posted by jbooma
Most of the mocks I have seen have Edwards and Williams gone before we pick, if this is accurate then to get one of them we have to move up. Unless we swap Coles and our #1 for another teams #1 :)

Really?

Most of the mocks that I have seen show Edwards going to the Bears and Williams going to the Skins. What mock drafts show both going before the #9 pick?

[FLSKINSFAN]

Originally posted by jbooma
Most of the mocks I have seen have Edwards and Williams gone before we pick, if this is accurate then to get one of them we have to move up. Unless we swap Coles and our #1 for another teams #1 :)


I think Troy Williamson's name need's to be thrown in, We'll get one of the three at nine.

[mh83]

Derrick Mason would be a huge grab by the Skins, he is underated around the league

[Phat Hog]

I agree that you don’t hear about Mason a lot, but I don’t think he’s underrated around the league. He’ll cost a pretty penny like the rest of the receivers hitting the FA market. I believe we should take Mike Williams if he’s there, or move down for more picks if he gone. Same think I said about Taylor last year.

[jbooma]

Originally posted by FLSKINSFAN



I think Troy Williamson's name need's to be thrown in, We'll get one of the three at nine.

Yes but is Williams worth a nine though?? We don't want to jump on the next WR unless they are worth it. Then again we could trade down.

[mh83]

Jbooma I don't know if Williams is worth a nine, but we have to try if he is available, we need someone right now

[pr11fan]

Originally posted by jbooma


Yes but is Williams worth a nine though?? We don't want to jump on the next WR unless they are worth it. Then again we could trade down.

You gotta be careful though, it depends where we think Williamson is likely to go, if it looks like he could go at 12-13 I'd rather reach a little at 9 and get the guy we want then miss out on him and then be stuck going after another wr. Anyone of the top 3 guys would be great imo, after that it gets a little dicey and we can't afford to be in that position after losing both starters in one offseason.

[FLSKINSFAN]

Originally posted by jbooma


Yes but is Williams worth a nine though?? We don't want to jump on the next WR unless they are worth it. Then again we could trade down.


I think so. I like him better than Edwards and Williams, but that's just me.

[jbooma]

Originally posted by FLSKINSFAN



I think so. I like him better than Edwards and Williams, but that's just me.

dam, i will be honest don't know much about him but will have to learn more now

as for as Mason, he might be a little undertated but that offense took off when they want to Bennet not Mason towards the end of the year

[sjinhan]

i think it depends on who we get via FA... if we a get big WR then we need to trade down a bit and grab a speedester to stretch the field... if we get a fast WR in the FA then we need to get Williams...

[RDSKNfaithfull]

you forgot the O.N. after Williams. Williamson

[Skins4SB]

Originally posted by FLSKINSFAN



I think so. I like him better than Edwards and Williams, but that's just me.

I'm with you too. I'm really high on the guy.

[chaddukes]

Originally posted by jbooma
Most of the mocks I have seen have Edwards and Williams gone before we pick, if this is accurate then to get one of them we have to move up. Unless we swap Coles and our #1 for another teams #1 :)

I have yet to see that and I look at most Mock drafts. Secondly, if we trade coles....for anything...then we take a 9+ million cap hit! So we wouldn't be able to sign WIlliams anyway...in fact we would have to get rid of other guys just to stay under the cap.

Coles is either going to be let go with him agreeing to pay back his SB, or he isn't going anywhere...and he'll sit if necessary!

I wouldn't trade up for anyone in this draft. Ths draft is weak at the top! You are too enamored with the name of Mike Williams.....it has apparently gone to your head because you aren't making any sense!

Chad Dukes

[KingTaylor22]

Lets just stick to singing Moss. And saing Mason

[aspkikn]

Does anybody really think either Williams (or Edwards for that matter) is going to be ready to step into a #1 receiver role out of the draft? Jesus people, that happens about once every blue moon. If/when Coles is gone, there is little doubt that the skins will make it a priority to get a WR when free agency begins. Personally I can't even see drafting a WR with that 1st pick. Games are won and lost in the trenches. Unlikely a rookie will even come close to the production an injured coles gave us last year.

[Hooper]

Bingo. We'll be lucky to draft a guy who catches 45 balls for us.

[mh83]

I'm not asking for a guy who can instantly step up, as fans we need to be patient, but if Williams is as good as people think he is, well on this team it is important to get someone who has #1 WR potential in the future. Ramsey is a great QB, but I doubt right now that he can make something out of nothing if we have no WR. As far as the trenches, I agree but the pass protection was far better this year.

[The Full Monty]

Originally posted by Hooper
Rookie receivers are far from guarantees. Hell, just look at our history drafting receivers.
0r trading high draft picks for another team's wide receiver....:doh:

[RedDawg36]

Originally posted by aspkikn
Does anybody really think either Williams (or Edwards for that matter) is going to be ready to step into a #1 receiver role out of the draft? Jesus people, that happens about once every blue moon.

Do you see blue moons often?

Boldin - 03/04

Clayton - 04/05

It's pretty much common now to see at least one WR step in to a team that has no WRs and dominate opposition (true for AZ and TB), and potentially true for WAS.

[aspkikn]

Originally posted by RedDawg36


Do you see blue moons often?

Boldin - 03/04

Clayton - 04/05

It's pretty much common now to see at least one WR step in to a team that has no WRs and dominate opposition (true for AZ and TB), and potentially true for WAS.

What did Boldin do last year?

YEAR REC YDS AVG LNG TD ATT YDS AVG LNG TD FUM LST
2004 56 623 11.1 31 1 1 3 3.0 3 0 1 1

Looks about like Gardner numbers to me. Not dominating the competition. Good 1st year though.

he was 2nd round pick in 03 draft

clayton was 1 of 6 WRs in 1st round of 04 draft, and he wasn't one of the receivers everyone was talking about in that draft class. Receivers are somewhat of a crapshoot in the draft. All the first rounders look like can't miss prospects based on their college performances.

Given our history at drafting WRs, no way I waste a number one pick this year. Jacobs was a projected number one on our board, lets find out about him before wasting another pick there. I don't know what some of the free agents are going to command on the open market, but they are a safer approach than drafting a receiver to come in and make an impact.

Just :2cents:

[AJWatson3]

while i feel that Braylon Edwards is the superior talent at WR in this years draft and would be a fine addition to this team, he will be gone and doesn't remind me of the kind of WR Gibbs would want. and it's not because of something Braylon doesn't have (he is the complete package), but what i have heard his competition has. everything i have read about Mike Williams is that he is passionate about football. he always is focused on it and takes it very seriously. while he might not have the speed and big-play ability that Edwards has, he is going to be a very reliable NFL WR with his great hands, he will be versatile because he has such great size he can block and maul opposing DB's and S's, and he will also be a legit red-zone threat. sounds like the kind of player we could use, especially because of his professional approach to the game. let's see how he weighs in at the combine so we can gauge how serious he is about staying in great shape-- that's been his only knock.

with all this talk about Coles being released i can't think of a better pick at #9 than Mike Williams....

and hopefully we can get Mason for a fair sum!

[Yusuf06]

Originally posted by chaddukes
I have yet to see that and I look at most Mock drafts. Secondly, if we trade coles....for anything...then we take a 9+ million cap hit! So we wouldn't be able to sign WIlliams anyway...in fact we would have to get rid of other guys just to stay under the cap.
Chad Dukes


If Coles returns some of his SB prior to us trading him wouldn't the cap hit be based on the lowered SB #? If that's true, a sign and trade deal should be possible. Doing so would allow both the team and Coles to have a degree of control over where he goes, not to mention the pick(s) involved. It just seems a better way to go for all concerned.

[AJWatson3]

Originally posted by AJWatson3
while i feel that Braylon Edwards is the superior talent at WR in this years draft and would be a fine addition to this team, he will be gone and doesn't remind me of the kind of WR Gibbs would want. and it's not because of something Braylon doesn't have (he is the complete package), but what i have heard his competition has. everything i have read about Mike Williams is that he is passionate about football. he always is focused on it and takes it very seriously. while he might not have the speed and big-play ability that Edwards has, he is going to be a very reliable NFL WR with his great hands, he will be versatile because he has such great size he can block and maul opposing DB's and S's, and he will also be a legit red-zone threat. sounds like the kind of player we could use, especially because of his professional approach to the game. let's see how he weighs in at the combine so we can gauge how serious he is about staying in great shape-- that's been his only knock.

with all this talk about Coles being released i can't think of a better pick at #9 than Mike Williams....

and hopefully we can get Mason for a fair sum!

following up on this. i just read an article in the "Breaking News" forum about Williams... this is something he said:


"I put the team first," Williams said. "The thing that I'll bring to any team is a winning attitude. I play hard, I compete hard, I try to make plays, I try to be a good person in the media ... really just bring back a little of how the game used to be, like when Barry Sanders played and those guys."

http://www.extremeskins.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=92777
article by David Elfin of the Washington Times

[Phat Hog]

If Williams is gone, we should trade down. Pick up a receiver in the late 1st/early 2nd round.

[GIBBSisGOD]

No matter how many people say edwards is the better receiver, i WILL NOT believe them ... Mike Williams is one of those rare talents like Randy Moss that only comes around once every 5-10 years. If we don't draft this guy, were going to be kicking ourselves 5, 10 years down the road because this guy has the potential to become one of the best ever. He may not have the desirable speed but he is just a physical specimen. Huge vertical leap, really tall, very strong, i mean this kids got all the qualities that could make him into a terrell owens type receiver just without the superior speed. I will be so upset if we don't draft williams on draft day, just like i would've been really mad if we didn't take Taylor last year.

we NEED mike williams!!!

[atloldskin]

Funny about all the Mike Williams hype. Most young receivers will not make a impact in their first year in the NFL. Look around the league, although Bouldin's year was special with the Cardinals.

Santana Moss and Mason would be fine; they would solve our needs at WR and give Thrash and Jacobs time to mature. Then we could draft either a DE or a CB and get some young OL help.

[chet06]

Williamson will be great..

[a_good_brotha]

I think we should take Mike Williams if he's available. As far as Plexico Burress, I see him as another Peerless Price. I think he only looks good because of Hine Ward, like Price looked good playing alongside Eric Moulds. Of the potential free agents I would like to see Muhsin Muhammed. I'm not sure if we can afford him. Just my opinion.