Skins.com: Gibbs live at Noon!

[AKM311]

http://www.redskins.com

Man atleast this guy faces the media and keeps us fans intact so we don't over mental too long.

I love Gibbs!

[heyholetsgogrant]

wil it air on TV?

[AKM311]

I dont think it will be on TV. Usually never is, unless its a big transaction. But maybe they will introduce Santana Moss as well, so check Comcast Sportsnet.

[E-Dog Night]

Originally posted by heyholetsgogrant
wil it air on TV?

ESPN News sometimes puts portions of PCs on the air, but I doubt this is a big enough deal to warrant TV coverage.

[bnacpa]

can someone please list out what they say. For some reason my realplayer is corrupted and no matter how many times I download it, it won't play back the audio feeds.

[VaSkinsNut]

If its Santana Moss part of it may be aired.

[jwebst1]

"yeah, we really fought our guts out to keep Fred, but that darn salary cap. I really wish we didn't have one".

Press Conference over.

[DUSTINMFOX]

:cheers: to Gibbs

[SlobberKnockinFootball]

Good, I was wondering when we were going to hear from Gibbs about what's been happening lately.

[DUSTINMFOX]

I hope that the press asks him good questions....

Do you guys think he'll refute anything that Coles has accused him and the FO?

[DUSTINMFOX]

I think there is even more unsaid (that he wants to say) from Coles....

He basically bashed Snyder in direct quotes, but then said they've reconciled?

I wonder how he truely feels about Gibbs. Does anyone get the feeling that he's p*ssyfooting around when criticizing him; knowing no fan would be on his side?

[Griff]

from Redskins.com

Joe Gibbs will address the media at Redskins Park at 12 noon ET on Wednesday. Gibbs is expected to discuss the Redskins in free agency and Fred Smoot's departure to the Vikings. To listen to the show, download the free.

www.redskins.com

[illone]

Someone please paraphrase for those of us who are hearing impaired (no speakers at work)

:D

[tr1]

I guess he didn't like the Mike Wise hack article in the WP...going directly to the people.

[SlobberKnockinFootball]

Mike Wise has been here for 15 mins and he wants to start casting stones. Mike Wise needs to get a grip before he loses covering the best story in DC.

[bubba9497]

wonder if he knows why Coles skipped his physical

[Fatty P For The Pulitzer]

Originally posted by illone
Someone please paraphrase for those of us who are hearing impaired (no speakers at work)

:D

And can we try to have one person summarize it, so the things he says aren't repeated over and over again over 10 pages.

[Leonard Washington]

oh no is this good news or bad news?!??!?! :whew:

[Fatty P For The Pulitzer]

Originally posted by SlobberKnockinFootball
Mike Wise has been here for 15 mins and he wants to start casting stones. Mike Wise needs to get a grip before he loses covering the best story in DC.

And I liked him too, until last night. But that's what he's paid to do, act like he knows how to do someone elses' job.

[SlobberKnockinFootball]

Ok, Donkey!!! The mic is on!!! Good Lord!!!!

[SlobberKnockinFootball]

Mic test, 1,2,3, 4, ....101, 102 :rolleyes:

[ciresolstice]

Mic test 1,2 1,2 34567...ughh I'm tired of talking.*lol*

[SlobberKnockinFootball]

Anyone want to bet on another mic test before Gibbs starts talking??

[Dead Money]

There's chatter playing...

[NoCalMike]

Thanks for keeping us updated guys. Greatly appreciated by people like me, stuck in our cubicles at work~!

[DonMagicJuan]

i wish someoen just walked by and just cursed on the mic or we hear about maske talkin about last night experience with a hooker...that would be hilarious

[SlobberKnockinFootball]

I hear Nunyo already starting another article that is based on "sources" that won't be filled with any facts what so ever....

[SlobberKnockinFootball]

Originally posted by DonMagicJuan
i wish someoen just walked by and just cursed on the mic or we hear about maske talkin about last night experience with a hooker...that would be hilarious

Yea, like I smacked her with it and she looked at me like I was crazy.. :laugh: :laugh:

[DonMagicJuan]

nunyo is my hero...and btw...still chattering for you office folks, Gibbs is late

[DonMagicJuan]

Originally posted by SlobberKnockinFootball


Yea, like I smacked her with it and she looked at me like I was crazy.. :laugh :laugh:

lol, maske seems like a guy who would blush talking to a girl lol

[DonMagicJuan]

Gibbs is talking...

[ciresolstice]

Gibbs speaks! *lol*

[heyholetsgogrant]

:notworthy

[DonMagicJuan]

its very important to him and the organization, they pick there players...this is there life, their job....wants the fans to know "what goes into doing some of this"

[TXREDSKINS44]

Addressing Fred and AP they were important players they wanted them

[Johnny_Blaze]

"We promised to do our absolute best to keep our "core" group of players, so we could have consistency in the future"

[Art]

We went after these guys hard and we went after them early. We started negotiations during the season. I went to them personally.

[Johnny_Blaze]

"went after both players HARD and EARLY, went to them early in the season"

[TXREDSKINS44]

He will tell players that he promises to keep the players together!
He will telll the players that they went after Fred and AP hard.

[DonMagicJuan]

wanted to keep fred and antonio....now hes praising them...made a commitment, promised that he would try to keep all the players....he reiterates "we promised, that i will do everything that i can to keep our players in this organization"

went after them hard and early....started negotiations during the season....they wanted to get it done with substantial offers....

[tizzod]

I can't get the dumb feed to work.

[TXREDSKINS44]

Pay more to a player you effect down the road decision to keep other players.

[DonMagicJuan]

if you "overpay" affect down the road and keeping other players....meaning he didnt want to screw us in the future, wish he NEVER HAD A SALARY CAP....

[KingGibbs]

basically said the salary cap blows.

[Johnny_Blaze]

"wish we didnt have a salary cap, because we have Dan, he would go after any player"

[DonMagicJuan]

14 players....8 of them were players who restructured/extended...had a choice to doing it or not doing it...had 4 unrestricted FA's....one RFA.*lamar marshall*...RAY BROWN IS ALMOST SIGNED

[TXREDSKINS44]

They had 14 players that they needed to sign. 8 players they re did there contract. Ray Brown is ready to sign.

[Buford]

thank God we are keeping Ray Brown! hooray

[Art]

We had 14 players we were trying to sign. Eight of those were players we were trying to restructure or extend and they had a choice. We had four unrestricted free agents. We had one restricted free agent that we signed (Lemar).

The bottom line is this year we were successful 14 times and lost two players.

[Tokeydog]

Said he thinks Ray Brown is set

[AKM311]

Ray Brown is re-signed, says Gibbs

[heyholetsgogrant]

Hes saying that we have only lost 3 players in the past 2 years.

[TXREDSKINS44]

They don't want any player to leave!

[heyholetsgogrant]

But they make every attempt to keep all of em.

[DonMagicJuan]

doesnt wanna make any player leave in this organization....doesnt ever wanna lose a player from this organization

[bubba9497]

"WITHIN REASON"

Ahem Coach, Amen :D

[Johnny_Blaze]

"We do not want ANY player to leave in the future, thats our commitment to the fans... we are going to do the best to make a substanial offer hoping the player will come to us"

[KingGibbs]

anyone else chuckling at the Ray Brown comment?

[heyholetsgogrant]

"WE WORK TOGETHER"!

[Buford]

It's hard.......work is hard.

I've heard this somewhere else before. ;)

[TXREDSKINS44]

Inside the organziation they work hard and they are together!!

[Art]

We've only lost three players the last two years and that stacks up well with other teams.

We hope we never have to lose anybody.

We work together, extremely hard. Inside this building, we are together. We work extremely hard. When it comes to Vinny and all the scouts and all of us, when it comes to picking players.

[DonMagicJuan]

praises vinny and dan...saying they work hard together...has a GREAT FEELING on the draft/free agency because they all have there say and its a good chemistry between them and the scouts....they lay out the BEST PLANS...

[Art]

Originally posted by Bufford
It's hard.......work is hard.

I've heard this somewhere else before. ;)

Yeah, and that guy won.

So, it bodes well for Gibbs :).

[heyholetsgogrant]

I hope he comments about the draft, or someone asks a question about it.

[TXREDSKINS44]

Coaching staff Dan, Vinny are all together on making decisions

[KingGibbs]

Said he is taking the heat for all of this

[Art]

It's on me.

When someone has criticism to make of the organization, it's on me. I make the final decisions.

[TXREDSKINS44]

Smart group looking all the time at our cap situation

[heyholetsgogrant]

He hates the salary cap.

[bubba9497]

Gibbs is nicely telling all the critics... BITE ME ;)

[heyholetsgogrant]

GIBBS RULES!

[big z]

Hes saying that we have only lost 3 players in the past 2 years.



i love you Joe, but we've lost 3 in the last week.

[Buford]

Originally posted by Art
It's on me.

When someone has criticism to make of the organization, it's on me. I make the final decisions.


done and done



blame blame blame blame blame!

[Johnny_Blaze]

"the single most important thing is the players..."

[heyholetsgogrant]

Question time.

[KingGibbs]

here comes the questions

[bubba9497]

Gibbs: Any Questions?

Nunyo: Coach..Wh....

Gibbs: Next Question

[DonMagicJuan]

Freddie got a better offer, wishes him the best....

[heyholetsgogrant]

Freddy got a better offer wish fred the best.

[TXREDSKINS44]

They started negoatating early with Fred. But Fred got a better offer. "Wish Fred the Best"

[Hooper]

Bascially he's saying we were able to sign all the players no one else wanted.

Hooray!

[DonMagicJuan]

Originally posted by bubba9497
Gibbs: Any Questions?

Nunyo: Coach..Wh....

Gibbs: Next Question


hahahhaha

[heyholetsgogrant]

He thinks they made good offers.

[bubba9497]

Originally posted by big z




i love you Joe, but we've lost 3 in the last week.

in free agency?

We traded Coles for Moss... not a loss, and not in Free Agency

[frankbones]

Originally posted by big z




i love you Joe, but we've lost 3 in the last week.

Please explain your math.

Without refering to a trade that got us a comparable player in return. (In fact one that scored 5 times as many TD's (+2 in the postseason) than who we gave up)

[TXREDSKINS44]

They made good offers to AP and Fred!!

[heyholetsgogrant]

Hes talking about plug and play.

[DonMagicJuan]

sounds like barrow will be the starter this season....

[TXREDSKINS44]

Barrow is a head of schedule

[AKM311]

Barrow ahead of schedule and Williams and Lindsey has talked to him.

[heyholetsgogrant]

Borrow will be back, hes ahead of sch on rehab.

[Johnny_Blaze]

"Barrow is ahead of schedule on his rehab, that would be important for us, then we have the draft..."

[NoCalMike]

This makes me more mad, the fact that Gibbs says they were trying to get these guys signed early in the season. It speaks volumes that Pierce & Smoot definately wanted to look for a payday in FA.

[TXREDSKINS44]

Walt had a risky surgry last year,but they felt like it was worth the risk. It worked out great.

[heyholetsgogrant]

"This makes me more mad, the fact that Gibbs says they were trying to get these guys signed early in the season. It speaks volumes that Pierce & Smoot definately wanted to look for a payday in FA."

Agreeded they never wanted to stay here in the first place.

[bubba9497]

Talking about Walt Harris taking a risk last season about his surgery.. and how it played out in the Smoot decision

[Art]

Talking about Walt Harris.

Made the decision that his surgery, last year, was a risky surgery and wondered whether he'd come back. And we knew he might not be able to come back, but we thought it was worth the risk. Thankfully for us, it worked out great.

What you have there is a veteran, proven starter there for us. We have some excellent young football players there too.

[Fred Jones]

Barrow is a head of schedule

That is good news to hear. Barrow's big issue was his health. He can lead the D just as well, if not better than, Pierce. He is also bigger and is a proven veteran.

[DonMagicJuan]

says we have nice young corners on our roster....talkin about Wilds....how he was covering moss and played well...i knew i liked wilds for a reason...maybe its his hair lol

[heyholetsgogrant]

hes saying that CB are talented. Im think that he we may not draft a CB.

[Johnny_Blaze]

"On Fred's case, last year we had a risk on Walt Harris, he had a surgery that was a risky surgery, we looked at and we said yes there is a risk here, but felt like it was worth the risk... thankfully for us worked out great, he played extremely well, you have a veteran proven CB and we also have younger players... Garnell Wilds, lining up against Randy Moss playing extremely way... and we have the draft"

[bubba9497]

The Coaches had planned for free agency, and if we lost some players

[TXREDSKINS44]

They have good young corners. He has a confidence in Wilds

[heyholetsgogrant]

hes saying that our CB's are talented. Im thinking
that he we may not draft a CB.

[SlobberKnockinFootball]

Can someone ask him to address the Coles allegations????? C'mon!!

[China]

How can Barrow be ahead of schedule, when he was originally scheduled to come back during last season?

[DonMagicJuan]

they have money and they might do some things...not sure if i heard that correctly..

[tizzod]

Originally posted by heyholetsgogrant
hes saying that our CB's are talented. Im thinking
that he we may not draft a CB.

Do you think he would say they suck?

[Art]

The team has money available to do some things if it wants. May not want.

[SlobberKnockinFootball]

Ty Law maybe? Could he be the Walt Harris like he just finished describing?

[AKM311]

God damm, this girl at work is talking so loud, I cant hear this thing. IM GOING TO KILL HER!

[heyholetsgogrant]

two toughest days of his life.

[DonMagicJuan]

i hope they address the David Boston situation.....hopefully he mentions it

[bubba9497]

the last couple days have been some of the hardest he has faced... references it to cut down day.. and he doesn't like it

[heyholetsgogrant]

"God damm, this girl at work is talking so loud, I cant hear this thing. IM GOING TO KILL HER!"

------
Easy now....lol

[SlobberKnockinFootball]

Originally posted by AKM311
God damm, this girl at work is talking so loud, I cant hear this thing. IM GOING TO KILL HER!

I know, my boss was in here trying to talk to me and I'm like dude c'mon get outta here. You're never here for 3 weeks straight but shows up at 12:15pm ?? Nuts.

[bubba9497]

The Decisions are made that are the best for the TEAM

[Buford]

Originally posted by Art
The team has money available to do some things if it wants. May not want.


I think we need it for the rookie pool.


Happy Birthday

[Art]

Last year we added 16 players to the team and we lost one (talkinga bout players they WANTED).

[Posse81]

Originally posted by AKM311
God damm, this girl at work is talking so loud, I cant hear this thing. IM GOING TO KILL HER!


:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

[heyholetsgogrant]

I guess smoot and AP, were not core players?

[TD_washingtonredskins]

Originally posted by heyholetsgogrant
two toughest days of his life.

I really hope that is hyperbole.

[Johnny_Blaze]

"Last year we added 16 players and we lost 1, This year we have signed 14 and lost 2.... thats keeping guys together, there is two things we didnt like, losing two players to a big deal... we are keeping the core group of our football structure together... did I think it would be that hard? No I didnt, I thought we would win both of these"

[SlobberKnockinFootball]

Dude, these reporters sucks ass... Ask him about Coles!!

[DonMagicJuan]

same old dumb questions....where is maske when u need him!

[Art]

I think what will happen in the future is that we will keep our team together. Hopefully next year we will have zip (no players lost).

[AKM311]

I just told her to shut her mouth. Thank god, shes quiet.

[Johnny_Blaze]

"In the future, I have a good feeling we are going to be able to keep our team together, hopefully next year we will have zip... My goal is to be 100% succesful, and this year we will not"

[TXREDSKINS44]

Press COnfrence tomorrow. He will talk about Coles!!

[SlobberKnockinFootball]

Nunyo: Do you have any inside information I can write about?

[DonMagicJuan]

hes gonna address somethin tomroorw, i think there talkin about moss/coles, talkin about coles test was delayed...

[TD_washingtonredskins]

It would make sense to delay any discussion of Coles/Moss until the deal is official. And, since slack-***** slept in today instead of getting his physical, it's not official.

[DonMagicJuan]

takin blame on offense this year....talkin about players "living" with them for a year....

[heyholetsgogrant]

OMG these questions suck...

[Griff]

Originally posted by SlobberKnockinFootball


I know, my boss was in here trying to talk to me and I'm like dude c'mon get outta here. You're never here for 3 weeks straight but shows up at 12:15pm ?? Nuts.

I had the same thing happen, what the hell do they pay me for??? LOL

[DonMagicJuan]

talks with players about other players....talked to someone about "antonio" last week, so he gets some info on the players thoughts...

[AKM311]

Originally posted by Griff


I had the same thing happen, what the hell do they pay me for??? LOL

LOL!!!

[SlobberKnockinFootball]

Originally posted by Griff


I had the same thing happen, what the hell do they pay me for??? LOL

That's the kind of stuff that makes a brother go postal!

[heyholetsgogrant]

He went out of the way for AP.

[DonMagicJuan]

said he guranteed AP money and every opprotunity to play.....now im losing more respect for AP, that greedy bitc*

[SlobberKnockinFootball]

Giving players opportunities doesn't mean anything to today's players.

[heyholetsgogrant]

this comfrims that AP burned the team.

[AKM311]

He kinda begged AP to stay.

[More Complete]

Originally posted by SlobberKnockinFootball
Giving players opportunities doesn't mean anything to today's players.

Did he say that or did you?

[Art]

Last year he guaranteed money to Antonio and said they'd give him a chance. We felt as an organization with Antonio that we did what we said we'd do. And we tried to sign him long term and you know what happened there.

I tried to use this -- the fact that we took a chance on him and guaranteed his money -- on him this year. I tried to use the logic of where will you play the longest.

My point of view is it seems like they were really upset with Pierce who they felt owed something to the team.

[SlobberKnockinFootball]

Dolla Dolla Bills Yooooooo! LOL.. AP what are you doing brotha? :rolleyes:

[DonMagicJuan]

says NEVER RULE OUT ANYTHING in football....

[heyholetsgogrant]

we will be alert when people are released.

[SlobberKnockinFootball]

Thinks there is going to be a situation or two comes releases (assuming June 1st) that they are going to monitor very closely.

[DonMagicJuan]

Originally posted by SlobberKnockinFootball
Dolla Dolla Bills Yooooooo! LOL.. AP what are you doing brotha? :rolleyes:

he wanted his escalade with spinning rims and tv's inside them... than have a mercedes c class with amg rims

[heyholetsgogrant]

LAVAR IS GETTING MARRIED!

[DonMagicJuan]

feels good about Lavar next year, about his rehab/work....hes getting married this week! CONGRATS LAVAR!

[AKM311]

Lavar getting married this weekend. Excited for his comeback.

[SlobberKnockinFootball]

Happy with LaVar's progress.

[cfujskins]

LaVar Is getting married!!?!? :cheers:

[denverdan]

Originally posted by Griff


I had the same thing happen, what the hell do they pay me for??? LOL

My boss never bothers me, hee hee, too bad we can't find some way to get paid for watching the games.

[TD_washingtonredskins]

Originally posted by DonMagicJuan


he wanted his escalade with spinning rims and tv's inside them... than have a mercedes c class with amg rims

Yeah, he couldn't have afforded that stuff with our stingy offer...;)

[AKM311]

Preparing for the draft now.

[DonMagicJuan]

there gonna be in Louiseville on Monday for a workout?? whos there to see?

[bubba9497]

Getting focused on the draft

[Dexter's Better]

Looks like Free-Agency is mostly done unless some players get releases....

focusing on the Draft.

[bubba9497]

putting out fires is part of what he does

[Posse81]

Originally posted by DonMagicJuan
there gonna be in Louiseville on Monday for a workout?? whos there to see?

LeFlors maybe? Someone posted earlier this week that Gibbs was checking him out.

[Buford]

fans are questioning........ yep. you could say that.

[bubba9497]

Called the press conference to let the fans know whats going on.

cares about the fans

[Dexter's Better]

"Damage control" with the fans -- let them know they are working hard.

[DonMagicJuan]

says THE FANS are questioning....and wants to explain "his side of it" to us....likes to talk to us about whats going on....he loves us just as much as we love him!

[Art]

Originally posted by Bufford
fans are questioning........ yep. you could say that.

Fortunately fans know Gibbs is smarter than thou art :).

[Dexter's Better]

Its hard work.... they are working hard.

[heyholetsgogrant]

WE ARE WORKING HARD! hoe many times have i heard that today?

[Dexter's Better]

Done.

[bubba9497]

Gibbs is da man

[ciresolstice]

(paraphrase some best I could, hopefully you can follow it not too may typos)


First of all I want to say it is very important to us, very important to me..

the most important thing we do is pick our players, this is our lives, what we do...very tough decisions to make, we labor over them...(understanding what goes into those decisions-to the fans etc)

We wanted to keep them, very very important, both of those guys(pierce/smoot) played very well for us last year.

We promised to do our absolute best to keep our core group of players together. (commitment/personal challenge)

Promises to do everything they can to keep thier players together.

In this case , we went after these guys hard and early(negotions during the season)

Has to be within the confines of the organization(impacts what you can do with/for your other players(team)

comparison by position and salary structure.

If we go too far on one player it costs us other players.

(Again wishes there wasn't a salary cap.)

14 players they were trying to sign. 8 of those we extended or restructured contracts.

4 unrestricted free agents(went after it hard)

One restricted that was signed (Lemar Marshall)

About there with Ray Brown.

We were successfull 14 times and lost two. One last year, two this year(lost)

We are going after our core group guys, (if you play hard for us we will go after you hard and sign you, if it's within reason)

We don't want our players to leave here! his commitment to the fans.

but the reality is, decisions happen..and hope the player decides to come to us..but there may be a time we lose someone.

(talks about the grading collaborative process for going after/keeping players)

Any criticism should come my way and I understand that, but we do things here together, very well organized, know what we are trying to do.

A very smart group that looks at/addresses our cap issues.

Having said all that, this is the way we're organized/do things.

There are several other teams that are structured in a similar fashion that have success.

Hugely important to our fans, we understand that.

Questions portion:

answers:

We started early with Freddy, during the season, we tried to make a substantial offer that he'd be comfortable with, but in the end Freddy got a better offer and I want to wish Fred the absolute best, and we think alot of him.

I think every football team has dead money issues, we were faced with some tough decisions this year. We did our best to deal with those issues.

*huffed/sighed*


We realize any time we lose a FA, we will make the best logical choice from moving a player to play a position that is already with us, (mike barrow) is ahead of schedule in his rehab, that obviously is very important to us..and obviously we have the draft.

goes into personell decisions, last year it was Walt Harris(Walt had a risky surgery) we looked at it financially is the risk worth it..we felt it was worth the risk..and we made a decision to do that...and thankfully for us it worked out. A veteran proven starting corner for us(Walt)

Confidence in our players, from Garnell Wilds lining up across from Randy Moss for the first time (this past season) Oh my God! *lol*

so these players along with the Draft..we think about all of this well in advance, we have a plan..we dont wait til we lose a player...if we lose a player to address that.

Do we have money there where we could do things? yeah.

Personal feelings?(reitterates doing the absolute best we can do, this is our professional lives, fighting our guts out for our fans, this is what we do)

I don't like these past coupla days..(losing players) this part ive never liked.

Make the best decision for the team(getting away from personal feelings that can hurt the team) it's tough.

Still feel we are keeping the core group(main structure) of the team together. Didn't think they'd lose Smoot and Pierce.

Hopefully next year (zip) no players lost. only lose 3 guys in 3 years. while not happy with losing any would be pretty good.

Coles/Moss deal not done..Coles and his physical, won't address Moss Coles yet until tomorrow..would be premature on his part right now to address that.

Speaks on Offensive struggles again last season..takes the blame for that.

Talked with many players on the phone..players as a team/collective are smart, they know what is going on.(far as negotions etc)

They gauranteed money to Pierce, We will give you every opportunity to play great...showing confidence in him..knowing he never started b4(b4 last season started) got that done..

but the long term deal fell through.

Won't get into individual negotiations(specifics) each one was different. (smoot/pierce)

Felt in both situations we had a good chance to win(negotiations for smoot and pierce) didn't work out.

We pour over every day, players that get released(close eye/ear to the wire)

To get a player, trade for him, draft him etc. do your homework, make a decision. Don't know what will happen day to day, but we keep a close eye and will jump on it, if it someone that can help us.

I have great confidence in our defensive coaches.

Next year(LaVar) He's starting to come on...rapid progress..feel really good about that. But he's getting married this week so he'll be missing a few days.

getting Andre Lott, etc healthy. makes a big difference.

-alot of this stuff is redundant but im typing most of it- cire

See what happens the next few weeks, potential for trade or if someone gets released. Monday we're in Louisville for a workout. Now in preperation for the Draft..we're working hard on that.

Joking, putting out fires is probably what I do. Be more guarded and more carefull..thankfull for today to address issues, appreciates opportunity to speak to the fans.

I know the fans are sitting out there, they want to know, they're questioning. Every opportunity I like to do that and explain our side to it(to the fans) so they know the passion, time and emphasis that goes into the process.


Okay, Thanks guys.


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Hope this helps some that couldn't tune it.

[DonMagicJuan]

interview done....and now .... SCREEN

[Art]

Originally posted by heyholetsgogrant
WE ARE WORKING HARD! hoe many times have i heard that today?

More today than in two years with Spurrier I'd guess :).

[rdsknbill]

:whew:. Talk about speed reading.

[cfujskins]

I love you too, Coach Gibbs!!!!!!!!:respect::respect:

[bubba9497]

"getting Andre Lott, etc healthy"

I am telling you now... he will be a key player sliding from safety to cb, nickel etc.

;)

[heyholetsgogrant]

I hear people chatting...A glass hitting a table...more people chatting...

[E-Dog Night]

Thanks ciresolstice. Nice effort, vrey much appreciated.

[Henry]

Anyone think that praise of Harris having the surgury was a little jab at Coles?

[SlobberKnockinFootball]

I don't think so, I just think he was describing the situation as to how we brought Harris in last year.

[bubba9497]

Originally posted by Henry
Anyone think that praise of Harris having the surgury was a little jab at Coles?

at first didn't think about it... but now that you mentioned it...


:laugh:

[bubba9497]

ciresolstice, I posted your recap in breaking news

Thanks

[ciresolstice]

Originally posted by Henry
Anyone think that praise of Harris having the surgury was a little jab at Coles?

:laugh: That did cross my mind when I heard it...but I guess we'll never know for sure.



Originally posted by bubba9497
ciresolstice, I posted your recap in breaking news

Thanks


^^^ cool, glad I could service/help the community here. :logo: :helmet: :point2sky

[Hauss]

He was in Louisville last Monday. There was a picture of Giibs next to Petrino and one of LeFlors talking to Musgrave.

[tr1]

My sense was that they were going to fill the vacancies on defense with the players they have....that they had projected if they lost Smoot and Pierce, they could fill those positions from the team...

Barrow popped up again, in an optomistic light.

Still thing they're going WR in the draft.

And I guess we'll hear from Gibbs again tomorrow after the Coles deal goes through?

[ross3909]

Hey Ciresolstice, thanks for the play by play for those of us who could not tune in. YOU DA MAN!

[Chris 44]

Thank you one and all for the continuous updates.

[mark327]

:doh: i forgot all about this ,now i have to read 180 posts to find out what he said :( , i'll be on page 2:cry:

[BIGGS_DADDY]

Originally posted by DonMagicJuan
there gonna be in Louiseville on Monday for a workout?? whos there to see? Robert McCune, possibly.

[Buford]

Originally posted by Art


Fortunately fans know Gibbs is smarter than thou art :).

on the field, of course. But even an idiot like myself can see he needs a legit GM to do a lot of this.

[Art]

Originally posted by Bufford


on the field, of course. But even an idiot like myself can see he needs a legit GM to do a lot of this.

Funny, the Eagles and Pats didn't need a legitimate GM to do a lot of what they did. I wonder how a guy like Andy Reid, with no previous head coaching experience, could possibly have done what he did, or how a guy like Belichick, a career loser, could have done what he did, without a true GM.

It's just a mystery, isn't it?

I mean, we all know Pioli only had a job because he followed Belichick around his whole career, and he's merely a yes-man for what Belichick wants to do. Obviously, it works when you say yes to the right guy -- or, you have a good QB :).

[Utah]

Now Bufford, we need to wait and see the effects. After next year, we can snap about what we think he did wrong this year, but not yet.

Give him a chance to prove his process works.

I think his history allows at least that much, wouldn't you?

[Art]

Originally posted by Utah
Now Bufford, we need to wait and see the effects. After next year, we can snap about what we think he did wrong this year, but not yet.

Give him a chance to prove his process works.

I think his history allows at least that much, wouldn't you?

That would be interesting, wouldn't it?

If the Redskins are 10-6 or better and a playoff team, it would be difficult to be concerned over what we've done. And, if the Redskins lose, but the reason we lose has little to do with the moves we made now, but unforseen failures elsewhere -- say Ramsey just blows -- it would not reflect badly.

We'll be a better team next year simply by having a majority of guys having been in the system already. We may not be a more talented team.

[bubba9497]

Originally posted by Utah
Now Bufford, we need to wait and see the effects. After next year, we can snap about what we think he did wrong this year, but not yet.

Give him a chance to prove his process works.

I think his history allows at least that much, wouldn't you?


:D exactly

[Skins_Junkie]

Originally posted by ciresolstice
(paraphrase some best I could, hopefully you can follow it not too may typos)


First of all I want to say it is very important to us, very important to me..

the most important thing we do is pick our players, this is our lives, what we do...very tough decisions to make, we labor over them...(understanding what goes into those decisions-to the fans etc)

We wanted to keep them, very very important, both of those guys(pierce/smoot) played very well for us last year.

We promised to do our absolute best to keep our core group of players together. (commitment/personal challenge)

Promises to do everything they can to keep thier players together.

In this case , we went after these guys hard and early(negotions during the season)

Has to be within the confines of the organization(impacts what you can do with/for your other players(team)

comparison by position and salary structure.

If we go too far on one player it costs us other players.

(Again wishes there wasn't a salary cap.)

14 players they were trying to sign. 8 of those we extended or restructured contracts.

4 unrestricted free agents(went after it hard)

One restricted that was signed (Lemar Marshall)

About there with Ray Brown.

We were successfull 14 times and lost two. One last year, two this year(lost)

We are going after our core group guys, (if you play hard for us we will go after you hard and sign you, if it's within reason)

We don't want our players to leave here! his commitment to the fans.

but the reality is, decisions happen..and hope the player decides to come to us..but there may be a time we lose someone.

(talks about the grading collaborative process for going after/keeping players)

Any criticism should come my way and I understand that, but we do things here together, very well organized, know what we are trying to do.

A very smart group that looks at/addresses our cap issues.

Having said all that, this is the way we're organized/do things.

There are several other teams that are structured in a similar fashion that have success.

Hugely important to our fans, we understand that.

Questions portion:

answers:

We started early with Freddy, during the season, we tried to make a substantial offer that he'd be comfortable with, but in the end Freddy got a better offer and I want to wish Fred the absolute best, and we think alot of him.

I think every football team has dead money issues, we were faced with some tough decisions this year. We did our best to deal with those issues.

*huffed/sighed*


We realize any time we lose a FA, we will make the best logical choice from moving a player to play a position that is already with us, (mike barrow) is ahead of schedule in his rehab, that obviously is very important to us..and obviously we have the draft.

goes into personell decisions, last year it was Walt Harris(Walt had a risky surgery) we looked at it financially is the risk worth it..we felt it was worth the risk..and we made a decision to do that...and thankfully for us it worked out. A veteran proven starting corner for us(Walt)

Confidence in our players, from Garnell Wilds lining up across from Randy Moss for the first time (this past season) Oh my God! *lol*

so these players along with the Draft..we think about all of this well in advance, we have a plan..we dont wait til we lose a player...if we lose a player to address that.

Do we have money there where we could do things? yeah.

Personal feelings?(reitterates doing the absolute best we can do, this is our professional lives, fighting our guts out for our fans, this is what we do)

I don't like these past coupla days..(losing players) this part ive never liked.

Make the best decision for the team(getting away from personal feelings that can hurt the team) it's tough.

Still feel we are keeping the core group(main structure) of the team together. Didn't think they'd lose Smoot and Pierce.

Hopefully next year (zip) no players lost. only lose 3 guys in 3 years. while not happy with losing any would be pretty good.

Coles/Moss deal not done..Coles and his physical, won't address Moss Coles yet until tomorrow..would be premature on his part right now to address that.

Speaks on Offensive struggles again last season..takes the blame for that.

Talked with many players on the phone..players as a team/collective are smart, they know what is going on.(far as negotions etc)

They gauranteed money to Pierce, We will give you every opportunity to play great...showing confidence in him..knowing he never started b4(b4 last season started) got that done..

but the long term deal fell through.

Won't get into individual negotiations(specifics) each one was different. (smoot/pierce)

Felt in both situations we had a good chance to win(negotiations for smoot and pierce) didn't work out.

We pour over every day, players that get released(close eye/ear to the wire)

To get a player, trade for him, draft him etc. do your homework, make a decision. Don't know what will happen day to day, but we keep a close eye and will jump on it, if it someone that can help us.

I have great confidence in our defensive coaches.

Next year(LaVar) He's starting to come on...rapid progress..feel really good about that. But he's getting married this week so he'll be missing a few days.

getting Andre Lott, etc healthy. makes a big difference.

-alot of this stuff is redundant but im typing most of it- cire

See what happens the next few weeks, potential for trade or if someone gets released. Monday we're in Louisville for a workout. Now in preperation for the Draft..we're working hard on that.

Joking, putting out fires is probably what I do. Be more guarded and more carefull..thankfull for today to address issues, appreciates opportunity to speak to the fans.

I know the fans are sitting out there, they want to know, they're questioning. Every opportunity I like to do that and explain our side to it(to the fans) so they know the passion, time and emphasis that goes into the process.


Okay, Thanks guys.


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Hope this helps some that couldn't tune it.



:cheers: THANKS ALOT ciresolstice ! :D

[Buford]

Pioli isn't just a yes man. He knows what type of players that his coach wants....and takes care of the details. Along with the dirty work.

how can Vinny be a match for Gibbs? These two past years are polor opposites of each other.

Ok, fine....we don't need a guy with the title of GM. We need a guy who isn't Vinny......who's out there looking for blue collar gibbs guys....and not giving fat contracts to players an owner or coach might have a chubby for this week.

[SkinsNut73]

Originally posted by E-Dog Night
Thanks ciresolstice. Nice effort, vrey much appreciated.

I second that....thank you sir.

[Art]

Originally posted by Bufford
Pioli isn't just a yes man. He knows what type of players that his coach wants....and takes care of the details. Along with the dirty work.

how can Vinny be a match for Gibbs? These two past years are polor opposites of each other.

Ok, fine....we don't need a guy with the title of GM. We need a guy who isn't Vinny......who's out there looking for blue collar gibbs guys....and not giving fat contracts to players an owner or coach might have a chubby for this week.

You have no idea what Pioli is, or is not. Have you read his resume? Apprently he was nearly unemployable other than where Belichick was. Does he know what type of players his coach wants? Probably. He's been with him longer than Cerrato has been with Gibbs, but, fortunately we keep hearing Gibbs tell us how good Cerrato has been helping him, so we can be encouraged.

The past two years, for Gibbs, Cerrato has helped Gibbs resolve problems at linebacker, defensive line, cornerback, safety, center and running back. Washington, Daniels, Salave'a, Springs, Taylor, Rabach and Portis. Seems he's doing a nice job getting Gibbs players.

And, fortunately, we're also getting good, blue collar type players, like Salave'a, Warner, Harris, Brown and Cooley, with Patten and Rabach adding to that this year. That's fantastic. Aren't you happy he's meeting all your requirements, if only you'd recognize it?

[FLSKINSFAN]

http://www.insidetheville.net/gallery/2004fb/05proday/images/stefan_lefors_redskins.jpg

[FLSKINSFAN]

http://www.insidetheville.net/gallery/2004fb/05proday/images/bobby_petrino_joe_gibbs-1.jpg

[Newera]

We are on the right track. Apparently Gibbs is taking a liking of Stefan LeFors of Louisville. I find that interesting. It would be a Gibbs handpicked.

Lawd, kind of reminds me of young Brunnell. Both lefties. Kind of scary, eh.

[DUSTINMFOX]

The guy is supposed to be super accurate

[bubba9497]

Originally posted by DUSTINMFOX
The guy is supposed to be super accurate

and super smart :laugh:

[FLSKINSFAN]

I like LeFors. He has great leadership skills, great accuracy, and great feet.

I think he would be a good pick in the fourth rd.

[ntotoro]

Is he courageous, though... ;)

[big z]

well Joe, thanks for working hard and giving the fans the scoop....

i'm still a little upset about smooty, but time heals all wounds....



can someone refresh who was our FA that got away last year? thanks.

:cheers:

[Buford]

Originally posted by Art


You have no idea what Pioli is, or is not. Have you read his resume? Apprently he was nearly unemployable other than where Belichick was. Does he know what type of players his coach wants? Probably. He's been with him longer than Cerrato has been with Gibbs, but, fortunately we keep hearing Gibbs tell us how good Cerrato has been helping him, so we can be encouraged.

The past two years, for Gibbs, Cerrato has helped Gibbs resolve problems at linebacker, defensive line, cornerback, safety, center and running back. Washington, Daniels, Salave'a, Springs, Taylor, Rabach and Portis. Seems he's doing a nice job getting Gibbs players.

And, fortunately, we're also getting good, blue collar type players, like Salave'a, Warner, Harris, Brown and Cooley, with Patten and Rabach adding to that this year. That's fantastic. Aren't you happy he's meeting all your requirements, if only you'd recognize it?

you called him a yes man......and all he's done is get his coach players who fit the system and win. I'd take him over Vinny right now.

the past years, Vinny has helped field teams with losing records. Now, I want Gibbs the coach here....badly. I think he's a players coach. I think they play hard for him. But I don't want the coach worried about signing bonuses and contracts.....and I surly don't want Vinny involved in that either.

Would of you been upset if we brought in a Bruce Allen last year?

[jimster]

Originally posted by big z
well Joe, thanks for working hard and giving the fans the scoop....

i'm still a little upset about smooty, but time heals all wounds....



can someone refresh who was our FA that got away last year? thanks.

:cheers:

Bryan Johnson - I think Gibbs wanted to keep him.

[bubba9497]

Originally posted by jimster


Bryan Johnson - I think Gibbs wanted to keep him.


he did... so did I :(

[Buford]

I thought we signed, then traded him.

[big z]

Bryan Johnson - I think Gibbs wanted to keep him.


oh yes. thanks. damn bears.

[BIGGS_DADDY]

Originally posted by Bufford
I thought we signed, then traded him. If memory serves me correctly, we did. Was it for a 4th round pick?

[Art]

Originally posted by Bufford


you called him a yes man......and all he's done is get his coach players who fit the system and win. I'd take him over Vinny right now.

the past years, Vinny has helped field teams with losing records. Now, I want Gibbs the coach here....badly. I think he's a players coach. I think they play hard for him. But I don't want the coach worried about signing bonuses and contracts.....and I surly don't want Vinny involved in that either.

Would of you been upset if we brought in a Bruce Allen last year?

Correct, I called him a yes man.

Probably, if you took a moment, you'd realize I'm taunting all the people who call Cerrato a yes man for only having a job because Snyder likes him, when Pioli appeared to only have a job because Belichick liked him. Kind of an ironic funny, don't you think?

I wouldn't have been upset had we brought Bruce Allen in to do what Gibbs wanted, just as I'm not upset that Gibbs has and seems to appreciate what he has in Cerrato. We don't want anyone OVER Gibbs in authority, just as no one is over the head coach on either Super Bowl team.

We see how well that formula works, so we should try to match it, right?

[Buford]

you think if the Kraft would of let him stick around if they had our record the past few years? I don't.

I think Marty did a lot of things that didn't make sense. Teaching DG to play corner. Bull in the Ring.

But two things he did seemed to be smart.

#1. Dumped Jeff George
#2. Dumped Vinny

Don't you think if Gibbs was open to a GM, it would be a GM he trusts and wants?

I think its less that Gibbs appreciates Cerrato...and most....he doesn't worry about it because he trumps Cerrato and Dan still likes having him around.

[Art]

The only free agent we wanted back that we lost last year was Bernard Holsey. We traded Johnson. Gibbs isn't counting player losses of the sort we get something in return. Only those we lose and get nothing.

[big z]

thanks art...it was holsey than huh.

i was looking at the johnson story to refresh my memory and saw how we matched the norleans offer and then traded BJ for a 6th.....

[Art]

Originally posted by Bufford
you think if the Kraft would of let him stick around if they had our record the past few years? I don't.

I think Marty did a lot of things that didn't make sense. Teaching DG to play corner. Bull in the Ring.

But two things he did seemed to be smart.

#1. Dumped Jeff George
#2. Dumped Vinny

Don't you think if Gibbs was open to a GM, it would be a GM he trusts and wants?

I think its less that Gibbs appreciates Cerrato...and most....he doesn't worry about it because he trumps Cerrato and Dan still likes having him around.

No, I think Kraft would have done what Snyder did and fire the coach and the personnel guy had Brady not been found and Belichick kept losing. What Snyder did was fire the coach and let Gibbs determine the rest.

As for Marty, he didn't dump Jeff George. Or, better, he DID, but ONLY after giving him a huge contract in March then releasing him in September. That is the very definition of foolish. I think if Gibbs wanted to alter how the front office ran, he'd alter it. And the fact that he doesn't speaks positively for how it's working for him.

I think it's amusing you would think Gibbs would keep a guy around he has no respect for. That sounds like Gibbs to you, does it? The Gibbs who respects hard work, honestly and ability, would simply let Cerrato linger? Nonsense, and I bet you know it is.

[Buford]

where did all this love for Vinny come from? and how much do you think he's really doing anymore?

[Art]

Originally posted by Bufford
where did all this love for Vinny come from? and how much do you think he's really doing anymore?

Well, the love for Vinny on Gibbs' part came from seeing how hard Vinny works and how organized he's been and how well he puts together viable player packages for the team to talk over and assign grades to.

Where the love for Vinny I have came from is a simple recognition that I was clearly wrong initially when I fretted over Vinny returning to the team. I thought he wouldn't be nearly as skilled as he's been filling holes quickly for the systems he's had to adapt to.

And I think that adaptability really shows in how highly Gibbs thinks of him openly nearly every time he speaks. Vinny is doing an incredible amount for the team and Gibbs, and no one appreciates it more, to this point, than Gibbs.

Further evidence of how wrong I was to fret over Cerrato taking a position of power two offseasons ago. Remember, this is now just his third offseason in the position he's in now. He was second fiddle Spurrier's first season to Mendes. His strong work won him the lead job after a year and we had two very strong offseasons. Unfortunately some of the benefit of the offseason of 2003 is lost with the coaching change.

Fortunately the benefits of last offseason are still paying dividends, to the point the team has no area you can point to and say it's a real, major weakness, even after the changes we've made recently.

[TenaciousB15]

So what happened? Did everyone get to hear what they wanted to hear?

[Buford]

Originally posted by Art


Well, the love for Vinny on Gibbs' part came from seeing how hard Vinny works and how organized he's been and how well he puts together viable player packages for the team to talk over and assign grades to.

Where the love for Vinny I have came from is a simple recognition that I was clearly wrong initially when I fretted over Vinny returning to the team. I thought he wouldn't be nearly as skilled as he's been filling holes quickly for the systems he's had to adapt to.

And I think that adaptability really shows in how highly Gibbs thinks of him openly nearly every time he speaks. Vinny is doing an incredible amount for the team and Gibbs, and no one appreciates it more, to this point, than Gibbs.

Further evidence of how wrong I was to fret over Cerrato taking a position of power two offseasons ago. Remember, this is now just his third offseason in the position he's in now. He was second fiddle Spurrier's first season to Mendes. His strong work won him the lead job after a year and we had two very strong offseasons. Unfortunately some of the benefit of the offseason of 2003 is lost with the coaching change.

Fortunately the benefits of last offseason are still paying dividends, to the point the team has no area you can point to and say it's a real, major weakness, even after the changes we've made recently.


I can see your point....but he still worries me...and I don't feel he's the right man for this job.

oh well.

[Art]

Originally posted by TenaciousB15
So what happened? Did everyone get to hear what they wanted to hear?

Read the thread, or read the summary posted in breaking news. I think what we heard was what happened and the process of thinking that goes into each move and we understand clearly the structure in place, why it's in place, and the goals.

We'll be losing fewer starting players this offseason than the Eagles lost last offseason, so, with hope, that continuity will be of benefit to us.

[BIGGS_DADDY]

Originally posted by Art


Well, the love for Vinny on Gibbs' part came from seeing how hard Vinny works and how organized he's been and how well he puts together viable player packages for the team to talk over and assign grades to.

Where the love for Vinny I have came from is a simple recognition that I was clearly wrong initially when I fretted over Vinny returning to the team. I thought he wouldn't be nearly as skilled as he's been filling holes quickly for the systems he's had to adapt to.

And I think that adaptability really shows in how highly Gibbs thinks of him openly nearly every time he speaks. Vinny is doing an incredible amount for the team and Gibbs, and no one appreciates it more, to this point, than Gibbs.

Further evidence of how wrong I was to fret over Cerrato taking a position of power two offseasons ago. Remember, this is now just his third offseason in the position he's in now. He was second fiddle Spurrier's first season to Mendes. His strong work won him the lead job after a year and we had two very strong offseasons. Unfortunately some of the benefit of the offseason of 2003 is lost with the coaching change.

Fortunately the benefits of last offseason are still paying dividends, to the point the team has no area you can point to and say it's a real, major weakness, even after the changes we've made recently. I've been a little confused on what it is exactly that Vinny does. Is he now head of the scouting department, with a fancy title?

[Art]

Originally posted by Bufford



I can see your point....but he still worries me...and I don't feel he's the right man for this job.

oh well.

The fact that you don't feel he's the right man for the job is fine, but, it should be tweaked back some, because, the guy who feels he is the right man for the job is Joe Gibbs. Gibbs has to feel comfortable with and trust the guy he works with in this position, and remember, he extended Cerrato's contract, so, evidently he feels good about things.

If Gibbs didn't think Cerrato was properly identifying players to help him, he'd probably know that, and react accordingly. The fact that Gibbs does feel Cerrato is the right man for the job means what you feel should be subjugated to that more meaningful reality.

The fact that our front office gets along and works well together is a benefit to us. Just like how Belichick and Pioli get along as friends, which is why Pioli kept getting brought along wherever Belichick was, it works to our benefit that our owner is friendly with our personnel guy, and our team's decision maker respects him and appreciates his hard work.

So, at some point, this should matter to us as fans. It does to me.

[Art]

Originally posted by BIGGS_DADDY
I've been a little confused on what it is exactly that Vinny does. Is he now head of the scouting department, with a fancy title?

Vinny is, largely, the head of the scouting department, yes. Instead of having a GM who is responsible both for personnel AND the cap, the Skins break the duties up so we have a guy devoted JUST to personnel and another guy devoted just to the cap. This way we're grading players on their ability, rather than on potential cap numbers, and we work within those grades and those numbers to determine who to go after.

Vinny is responsible for compiling all personnel data -- from college to pro free agents -- into meaningful formats and packages based on input from the people under him, and for discussion with the entire staff and personnel group to determine the best fit for any particular need.

Teams that are built like we are from a management standpoint look the same in this regard and, the model we're seeking is the model we had when we were winning games with JKC and the model the Pats and Eagles have now. We should be thrilled we're emulating those teams in this regard.