Dictator Gibbs

[Blondie]

Redskins | Coles Berates Gibbs - from www.KFFL.com
Wed, 9 Mar 2005 13:33:51 -0800

David Elfin, of the Washington Times, reports WR Laveranues Coles told Sports Illustrated's website that Washington Redskins head coach Joe Gibbs ran a "dictatorship" last season and that both sides agreed it was best they go there separate ways this offseason. "We concluded that it was best to go our separate ways," Coles said. "(Gibbs) basically said he didn't trust me and I said I didn't trust him." As reported, Coles will be officially dealt to the New York Jets for WR Santana Moss pending Coles' physical Wednesday, March 9.


How many times did we hear Gibbs at the after the game press conference talking about Portis and how CP said......"run this play" and with that special Gibbs giggle talking about running the play.

The pass from Portis was not a Gibbs idea at the time.......it was CP's idea.

So, how is this a dictatorship? Does Coles mean that Gibbs made decisons about what was best for the team and didn't allow Coles to decide what was best?

That comment really bothers me. I find this to be classless trash and bash.

Blondie

[Johnny Punani2]

Coles might be the worst signing in Redskins history. Yes, even worse then Deion Sanders.

[TK]

Redskins | Coles Berates Gibbs - from www.KFFL.com
Wed, 9 Mar 2005 13:33:51 -0800

David Elfin, of the Washington Times, reports WR Laveranues Coles told Sports Illustrated's website that Washington Redskins head coach Joe Gibbs ran a "dictatorship" last season and that both sides agreed it was best they go there separate ways this offseason. "We concluded that it was best to go our separate ways," Coles said. "(Gibbs) basically said he didn't trust me and I said I didn't trust him." As reported, Coles will be officially dealt to the New York Jets for WR Santana Moss pending Coles' physical Wednesday, March 9.

Let me see if I got this right. This is a report of a report of an article?

:wtf:

[jimster]

and he coincidently has had problems that weren't his fault everywhere else he's been too.

[Ghost of Nibbs McPimpin]

I don't think even Coles was asserting that Gibbs ran a "dictatorship." This KFFL report is inaccurate and misleading for both men.

[esteffan]

Hasn't Gibbs always accepted input from his players? I think most people who follow the Skins knew Coles' comments were false. Coles is a cash-grubbing liar. I was a huge supporter of his, and I cannot believe I got snowed so bad. We're better off.

[skinstzar]

Where is that Britanny Gif from? Is there more? AWWWWWESOOMMME.

[Grumpy Vet]

Originally posted by skinstzar
Where is that Britanny Gif from? Is there more? AWWWWWESOOMMME.

Is that Brit Spears? It is a little dark - I've been trying to figure out who that vision was....

Oh yeah - F Coles.

[Cmurdock]

It seems as if Coles wanted to be the coach and call "deep to
Coles" on every play. Evidently some of the Redskin players weren't accustomed to being managed.

[skinstzar]

I don't care if it is brittany, I want more of whoever it is.

[bulldog]

Coles hasn't left a program in his career on good terms. He just has to take that extra punch or two on the way out to guarantee people will always judge him the ***** that he is :)

[skin_finatic]

:doh: :doh: :doh: :doh: :doh:

[Warhead36]

That fractured toe is getting to Coles's brain cells.

[canesluver]

Joe, glad you got rid of that *********!!

[CrazyZeb]

Originally posted by skinstzar
Where is that Britanny Gif from? Is there more? AWWWWWESOOMMME.



Originally posted by Grumpy Vet


Is that Brit Spears? It is a little dark - I've been trying to figure out who that vision was....

Oh yeah - F Coles.



Originally posted by skinstzar
I don't care if it is brittany, I want more of whoever it is.


Full size/slo-mo, baby! :D

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[Chachie]

Check your history Coles. Lombardi, Shula, Knoll, Landry, Gibbs, Walsh, Parcells, Johnson, Belicheck.

The Lords of the Rings. Every one a dictator. :)

(edited for spelling.)

[Barney B]

Originally posted by Chachie
Check your history Coles. Lombardi, Shula, Knolls, Landry, Gibbs, Walsh, Parcells, Johnson, Belicheck.

The Lords of the Rings. Every one a dictator. :)

BINGO!

And let's also remember that Norv Turner lets his players run the show, which hasn't exactly put Norv in the Super Bowl, has it?

[Phat Hog]

Obviously a good move getting rid of this guy in hindsight. What a loser.

[Chris Worthy]

"Being one of the best at my position, I feel like I should have some say in the play calling"


Are you Effin Kidding Me!!!!! The vapors coming off of that bad funky bunion got him insane in the membrane!!!!:puke:

[Larry]

I'm remembering when Keyshawn announced that he'd "escaped" from Tampa, and was going to Dallas.

He immediatly called a press conference to announce how glad he was to get away from that egomaniac, John Gruden.

My observations: [list=1]
Uh, Keyshawn, you're going to play for Parcells.
All NFL Head Coaches have big egos. People with small egos don't get that job.

(The same goes for NFL owners.)
[/list=1]

[Tarhog]

Well, theres the Dictator.




And then theres the Dic.





I think I know who I'm siding with.

[forbeskin]

I still think Coles biggest issue was with Portis. He stole the limelight, when CP wasn't there, it was all about LC, because we didn't have a running game. But when CP got brought in, LC got jelous cause the gameplan would no longer be structured around him. Gibbs took advice from CP and not LC and that made him mad.

[bigpoppa]

I agree that coles is just stupid!



BigPoppa!

[Park City Skins]

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/20...oles/index.html

Irreconcilable differences
Many reasons why Coles, Redskins had messy divorce


It all will be over soon for Laveranues Coles.

Once he passes a routine physical Wednesday, his trade from the Washington Redskins will be consummated and he'll officially be a New York Jets wide receiver again. Given how much we've heard about Coles' frustration this past season, there shouldn't be a more delighted player in the NFL. There's no question he lucked into the best opportunity he could find after his time in D.C.

Coles will be reunited with his close friend, quarterback Chad Pennington, while playing in an offense that should be far more aggressive with new coordinator Mike Heimerdinger calling the plays. He'll play with a better supporting cast on a playoff-caliber team. He also gets to be happy again. That's the biggest boon for a player who described every week of last season as a "miserable" experience and added that the most important lesson he learned while in Washington was "trust nobody."

If you want to know how badly Coles and the Redskins needed a divorce, consider this: Redskins owner Daniel Snyder threatened Coles when the receiver's refusal to accept the trade without a contract extension thwarted the deal last month. "He said that if I stayed in Washington, he would turn me into another Terry Glenn," Coles said. (Glenn, now with the Cowboys, missed most of the 2001 season with New England as his public feud with head coach Bill Belichick resulted in various fines, suspensions and ultimately Glenn's benching). "He said he would send a flat-screen television to my home because I'd be better off watching the games there. That was his way of saying I'd be sitting for the next couple years until they cut me."

Snyder didn't return phone calls about that comment but it's easy to understand his irritation. He gave Coles a then franchise-record $13 million signing bonus two years ago. He expected Coles to be an integral part of the offense for many years. Now Snyder was watching the same player call his shots on the way out of town -- Coles eventually secured a reported $15 million in guaranteed money over the next three years while forcing the Redskins to take a huge salary cap hit -- and it stung.

But Snyder wasn't the reason Coles wanted out of Washington. Joe Gibbs was. Coles never felt comfortable with the Hall of Fame head coach. He was wary of Gibbs as far back as training camp. Coles feared that the coach (who was traveling and couldn't be reached for comment) would favor a conservative, run-first offense featuring Clinton Portis -- and that's exactly what happened.

Though Coles caught a career-high 90 passes last season, he averaged a career-low 10.6 yards per reception and scored only one touchdown (which Portis threw to him on a halfback-option pass). Coles never publicly aired his bitterness but he privately bristled about Gibbs' strategies: the coach's unwillingness to move the receiver around in the offense, the lack of downfield passing and the predictable nature of the system.

He often commiserated with Rod Gardner, another Redskins receiver in search of a trade. "We'd shake our heads and wonder where we fit in every time we saw a new game plan," said Coles, who became a Pro Bowl receiver while playing in Steve Spurrier's pass-happy system a year earlier. "People say we're leaving now because we're selfish, but how are you supposed to be happy as a receiver when you go from a passing offense to a running offense? This wasn't what I signed up for."

Coles' main complaint about Gibbs was the coach's inflexible nature. "I didn't feel respected as a player," Coles said. "I know everything changed [when Gibbs succeeded Spurrier] but when you feel like you're one of the best players at your position, you'd think you could talk to a coach about the play-calling. We didn't have that situation. He called the plays. We ran them. That's where things fell off with me. I realize it's a dictatorship but there's only so much you can take."

When the season ended, Coles met twice with Gibbs in order to air grievances. Neither session led to any positive results. "We concluded that it was best to go our separate ways," Coles said. "I don't want to get into the details but he basically said he didn't trust me, and I said I didn't trust him."

At that point, Coles wasn't sure where his career would go, but he was excited when the Jets aggressively pursued a trade.

Coles was bitter when New York didn't try harder to retain him as a free agent two years ago so the Jets' recent interest convinced him that the team still believed in his talents. The team's lack of concern with Coles' broken right big toe has been welcome news as well. He sustained the injury in the third game of the 2003 season and the Redskins believed it hindered his explosiveness. They wanted Coles to undergo surgery after this season but he balked because doctors told him the operation should be seen only as a last option (it could be a career-threatening procedure if it's unsuccessful). Coles adds that his condition improved with the help of a cortisone shot prior to a game at Philadelphia last November. "From what I've been told, it's not a problem as long as I'm running and cutting fine," Coles said. "Until it gets to the point where I can't walk, I don't need surgery."

The Jets won't comment on the trade until it's official, but they're clearly thrilled with Coles' return. He's a better receiver than Santana Moss, whom New York gave up in the deal, and he's more appreciative of a second chance with the team that drafted him. Coles also can't say enough good things about the Jets, including "the family atmosphere" fostered by head coach Herm Edwards.

As for positive comments about the Redskins, Coles is working on that. He's already reconciled with Snyder and there's even been some progress made with Gibbs. "We came to the conclusion that if we met in the street, we could shake hands and be cordial," Coles said of Gibbs. "But that's about it."

That acrimony might subside the longer Coles plays in New York. After all, he's landed in the best possible situation. The more he focuses on that, the better off he'll be.



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Okay. I'm sure that there will be times with the Jets when Herman Edwards, ( notoriously easy going and gentle with his players :rolleyes: , will be on the sidelines and will be pondering what to do during the game and look around to his players and invite them to vote on what to call. :doh:

[Skins11]

Embracing democracy, trying to rid the world of dictatorships.... Coles is the modern man.

Man, I'm so glad they didn't have the #80 in large when I went to the store in September, or else I would have bought it. :doh: