Bush family ties to Nazi-Germany funding.

[Baculus]

Yes, it is a rather outlandish title, but it is a matter of public record and a historical curiosity. The following article describes this issue:

http://www.rense.com/general40/bushfamilyfundedhitler.htm

To quote from the article:

"Some time later, in October 1942, the U.S. authorities confiscated Nazi bank funds from the New York UBC, whose then president was Prescott. The firm was condemned as a financial and commercial collaborator with the enemy and all its assets were seized."

Other sources:

http://www.john-loftus.com/bush_nazi_link.asp

http://www.tarpley.net/bush2.htm

Conducting a Google for "Bush funded nazi" garners a lot of hits.

Now, what does this mean? That I am not too sure. And I am not going to leverage a charge that the Bushes are nazis, since that would be hyperbole, but it is a rather intriguing bit of background, often ignored by the press, of the Bush family. Another thing to keep in mind is that other American companies (such as Ford) and financial institutions had ties to Nazi financing.

I predict either the reader of this post will find it interesting, or dismiss it. :-)

BTW, I didn't see any previous threads about this issue, so excuse me if I am posting something that was heatedly debated at one time.

[codeorama]

Already knew.

[Buford]

please, I'm Jewish and don't even care.

that was generations ago....Henry Ford was so much worse.

[zoony]

You say that this is intriguing.

How?

[panel]

Originally posted by Bufford
please, I'm Jewish and don't even care.

that was generations ago....Henry Ford was so much worse.
According to one guy, that arch duke, after he died. Maybe it's true, but still find it hard to beilieve that the first to offer equal wages to black also had a deep hatered towards jews.

[Mad Mike]

OMFG. How low will the bush haters go?


he National Review ran an essay on September 1 by their White House correspondent Byron York, entitled "Annals of Bush-Hating." It begins mockingly: "Are you aware of the murderous history of George W. Bush - indeed, of the entire Bush family? Are you aware of the president's Nazi sympathies? His crimes against humanity? And do you know, by the way, that George W. Bush is a certifiable moron?" York goes on to discredit the "Bush is a moron" IQ hoax, but fails to disprove the Nazi connection.

The more liberal Boston Globe ran a column September 29 by Reason magazine's Cathy Young in which she referred to "Bush-o-phobes on the Internet" who "repeat preposterous claims about the Bush family's alleged Nazi connections."


Major U.S. media outlets, including ABC News, NBC News, CNN, The New York Times, Washington Post, Washington Times, Los Angeles Times and Miami Herald, as well as Knight-Ridder Newspapers, have repeatedly declined to investigate the story when information regarding discovery of the documents was presented to them beginning Friday, August 29. Newsweek U.S. correspondent Michael Isikoff, famous for his reporting of big scoops during the Clinton-Lewinsky sexual affair of the 1990s, declined twice to accept an exclusive story based on the documents from the archives.

Gee... ya think maybe it's because the story is bullsh!t? :doh:

[Baculus]

You say that this is intriguing.

How?

If you don't find it intriguing, then I cannot explain to you why you would.

Yeah, Ford motor helped to provide the means and manufactuering to the Nazis. That is well-known, along with the other companies that helped to fund and arm Hitler and the Nazis. Oddly enough, this included Jewish-connected banks; keep in mind, Nazi money had to come from somewhere, and his financing did not appear from a vacuum.

But the financial ties connected to Bush, and the interests he oversaw, were seen as one of the major financers of the Nazis, so I am not sure how much worse you could get.

Sorry, but to me, just because something is from 70-years ago does not mean it is of no consequence or interest. After all, one of my favorite books is Julius Caesar's Gallic Wars, written 2000 years ago.

[Tarhog]

This is interesting, but not nearly as interesting as your family's background Baculus.

If you don't mind, would you please post the last 200 years worth of your family tree? Not that anything's going to turn up, but if it does, I think it'll be 'intriguing' :) Because really, isn't it about us knowing the real facts!

Seriously, other than to rile people up, whats the point of the thread? Thats an honest question.

[Baculus]

Gee... ya think maybe it's because the story is bullsh!t?

Why is it Bullsh!t? Because you said so? Did you even see the sources for the third article I linked? Have you researched this yourself? How come you can find information on this subject from the national archives? The press isn't going to heavily report something that may not seem too popular to their readers.

Anyone remember the character, George Winston, from 1984? What was his job? There we go, that will give you insight into why this isn't discussed by the media.

I assumed most folks knew about this - it isn't the most secretive information

Mad Mike, just pronouncing something "bullsh!t" because you don't like the content of it does not change anything. Hey, Clinton supporters said the same thing when I talked about the Mena Airport-cocaine-Clinton connection.

[zoony]

Originally posted by Tarhog
This is interesting, but not nearly as interesting as your family's background Baculus.

If you don't mind, would you please post the last 200 years worth of your family tree? Not that anything's going to turn up, but if it does, I think it'll be 'intriguing' :) Because really, isn't it about us knowing the real facts!

Seriously, other than to rile people up, whats the point of the thread? Thats an honest question.

I wish I had written that post...


Baculus:
If you cannot explain to me why it is intriguing, then you should not have used those words.

There is nothing intriguing about it. At all.

That being said, I will keep an open mind. After all, I'm not really a Bush fan, but quite simply this REEKS of bull:pooh:

So seriously... show a connection or an intent and I will find the intrigue.

And one final (hypothetical) question... if you had found out that the HEINZ company had engaged in illegal environmental practices in the 1930's, would you find that intriguing about Kerry? :rolleyes:

I would hope not.

Because it wouldn't be.

........

[Baculus]

If you don't mind, would you please post the last 200 years worth of your family tree? Not that anything's going to turn up, but if it does, I think it'll be 'intriguing' Because really, isn't it about us knowing the real facts!

Seriously, other than to rile people up, whats the point of the thread? Thats an honest question.

Sorry, I am not president of the U.S., so my family history may not be as revelant as you'd think. And I actually know my family history well since I had to present it to the SAR to join the organization. The worse thing I can say of my recent history is that my grandfather was a guard at a Japanese-American internment camp, something he was never proud of after the war.

LOL - I knew some folks were going to dismiss this issue. If folks get riled up, so be it, but that wasn't my objective. It was to discuss this issue, or just throw it out there for people to read - some people WILL find it interesting, and some won't. Some will think it is the truth, and some will find it to be complete rubbish. Such is the nature of debate in a free society - right?

I present some articles that discussed this issue, but avoided making unfounded accusations directly at the current president. But, keep in mind, we are talking about his grand and great-grand father, too, and since Bush is a public, political figure, his background may be discussed more than the average man.

[SkinsChick36]

I'm sure it was hard work digging up all this info and all but why... your opinion of the President bleeds through like you were shot... and honestly, it's like blaming me for my great great probably great again grandparentss having slaves...although i had nothing to with it, please blame me.

[Baculus]

There is nothing intriguing about it. At all.

I found it intriguing - you didn't.

Your point?

Please enlighten me since obviously you have insight that I seem to be missing. After all, I DID say that some would find it interesting, or dismiss it. HELLO!


And one final (hypothetical) question... if you had found out that the HEINZ company had engaged in illegal environmental practices in the 1930's, would you find that intriguing about Kerry?

I may not as much, since he is a Heinz thru marriage, but keep in mind, I DIDN'T VOTE FOR KERRY. But I love how you threw that in there, assuming I did vote for Kerry, right?

But if the Kerry family was connected to Nazi funding, don't you feel that some of you would have felt that was a topic worthy if interest or discussion? Let's be honest here....

[Tarhog]

Originally posted by Baculus


Sorry, I am not president of the U.S., so my family history may not be as revelant as you'd think. And I actually know my family history well since I had to present it to the SAR to join the organization. The worse thing I can say of my recent history is that my grandfather was a guard at a Japanese-American internment camp, something he was never proud of after the war.

LOL - I knew some folks were going to dismiss this issue. If folks get riled up, so be it, but that wasn't my objective. It was to discuss this issue, or just throw it out there for people to read - some people WILL find it interesting, and some won't. Some will think it is the truth, and some will find it to be complete rubbish. Such is the nature of debate in a free society - right?

I present some articles that discussed this issue, but avoided making unfounded accusations directly at the current president. But, keep in mind, we are talking about his grand and great-grand father, too, and since Bush is a public, political figure, his background may be discussed more than the average man.

You're not investigating the history of the President, you're discussing the history of distant ancestors. How would that apply to Mr. Bush and his present family exactly? Is he pro-Nazi? What exactly would this demonstrate even if absolutely accurate?

I didn't delete the thread or ban you - stop acting like I did. I simply said you're instigating. And you are :)

And we're just 'debating', right? ;)

[DieselPwr44]

http://www.pncers.org/heritage/images/man_fishing.jpg

[Baculus]

I'm sure it was hard work digging up all this info and all but why... your opinion of the President bleeds through like you were shot... and honestly, it's like blaming me for my great great probably great again grandparentss having slaves...although i had nothing to with it, please blame me.

LOL. No, what is bleeding through your words is the "Anything For Bush" mentality. Did I come to a conclusion that he was a Nazi? Did I? No. So, please spare me your reflexive need to defend Bush EVEN when I didn't make any accusations. After all, the only thing I did was present some articles that discussed this issue. And it wasn't hard at all to find these articles - the only thing I did was type in "Bush funded Nazi" and there it was. I had read about this before and felt like reading further about it today. And voila, there it is.

Prescott Bush was his grandfather - we are not talking about the 18th century. Please at least be sensical in your knee-jerk reaction! I NEVER blamed Bush - so, let me guess, you would want me to wait until AFTER Bush was an ex-President before I post something about the man? Please.

Some of you are so Politically Correct. Stop jerking those knees around!

[dreamingwolf]

I know I wont vote for Bush for president in 08 after reading this acticle :p

[zoony]

Originally posted by Baculus


I found it intriguing - you didn't.

Your point?

Please enlighten me since obviously you have insight that I seem to be missing. After all, I DID say that some would find it interesting, or dismiss it. HELLO!



I may not as much, since he is a Heinz thru marriage, but keep in mind, I DIDN'T VOTE FOR KERRY. But I love how you threw that in there, assuming I did vote for Kerry, right?

But if the Kerry family was connected to Nazi funding, don't you feel that some of you would have felt that was a topic worthy if interest or discussion? Let's be honest here....


This is tiresome. I usually enjoy reading your point of view, I honestly do. It tends to be a good yin to the conservative yang that is omnipotent in these forums. However, this topic is pointless.

You threw a topic out for discussion.

I failed to see the connection to the White House. I asked you to explain.

You said that it cannot be explained, and now you're throwing a tantrum.


As for the Kerry reference, we are in a two-party system. Your signature and thread topic would strongly indicate that you are not a member of the GOP. I played the odds and assumed you were a Democrat. I apologize for the mistake, but no reason for you to come across high and mighty and pretend like you were just served some kind of injustice.

[Baculus]

You're not investigating the history of the President, you're discussing the history of distant ancestors.[quote]

I don't think I ever said I was investigating HIS history - I mentioned this was in relation to his family history. Well, consider this - this issue also deals with the father of another past president, George H. Bush, so it isn't THAT distant, is it? Aren't folks still affected by their parent's past history?

[quote]How would that apply to Mr. Bush and his present family exactly? Is he pro-Nazi? What exactly would this demonstrate even if absolutely accurate?

I am not sure what this would demonstrate. I am not sure IF this demonstrates anything other then the fact that his family, going back two generations, was involved with affairs that was seen as unpatriotic, to the point that assets were seized.

I linked to a book that deeply discusses this book - maybe you should read it if you want to know what *exactl* this means. I am still trying fanthom the meaning, if any, of this particular subject.


I simply said you're instigating. And you are

I posted the original post with the clear message that I was not making accusations. If no one replied, then it would be a non-issue. Heck, you even replied - how am *I* instigating?

If you want to ban me for making an apparently non-Politically Correct issue, please do so. That is fully within your moderater powers. After all, any and all posts are made with my personal responsiblity in mind.

[Mad Mike]

Originally posted by Baculus


Why is it Bullsh!t? Because you said so? Did you even see the sources for the third article I linked? Have you researched this yourself? How come you can find information on this subject from the national archives? The press isn't going to heavily report something that may not seem too popular to their readers.

Anyone remember the character, George Winston, from 1984? What was his job? There we go, that will give you insight into why this isn't discussed by the media.

I assumed most folks knew about this - it isn't the most secretive information

Mad Mike, just pronouncing something "bullsh!t" because you don't like the content of it does not change anything. Hey, Clinton supporters said the same thing when I talked about the Mena Airport-cocaine-Clinton connection.

A) 1984 while interesting and even thought provoking, was a work of fiction.

B) Having studied a little journalism and having coresponded with a few journalists I can tell you that the bigger and more outragious the story, the more they want it. That's how they get recognition. So if there really was a story here, they would be all over it like stink on a turd. And speaking of humorous colloquialism, one would think Dan Rather would have been all over it like flies on a corn fed pig. :laugh:

C) Before we go digging into the mud of 1929, what say we dig a little deeper into the donations made to Clinton's re-election campaign by Chinese generals and the subsequent relaxation of rules for exporting high tech missile parts to China. Parts and technology that could be used in ICBMs against America. :rolleyes:

[chomerics]

Bacculus, I don't know what type of information you are looking for, and I don't know how relevant it is to our current forign policy, but yes, Bush's grandfather did have a lot of money invested in the Nazi's. He wasn't the only one though, there was a lot of American money invested in German companies during the lead up to WWII. Prescott was but one of a number of rich Americans cozying up with Hitler for the almighty buck.

Henry Ford was another, and he helped fund Hitler's rise to power. He also received a medal from Hitler for distinguishing service to Germany by a forigner. He was a role model of Hitlers and I think Hitler even had a picture of Ford on his wall.

Charles Lindburgh was also a Nazi supporter and backer. There were a LOT of Americans who were well to do who backed Nazi Germany pre WWII. Some of them even backed them into the start of the war, but it really isn't relevant for today.

Here's a little hint for you, when you google "Prescott Bush Nazi" keep in mind that there are a number of websites which have alterior motives. There is a lot of information out there on the connections, but most of it is not relevant, as well as a lot of mis-information put out by the other side. You need to weed through the crap to find out the truth, something all good journalists and researchers should do.

[Tarhog]

Originally posted by Baculus


I am not sure what this would demonstrate. I am not sure IF this demonstrates anything other then the fact that his family, going back two generations, was involved with affairs that was seen as unpatriotic, to the point that assets were seized.

I linked to a book that deeply discusses this book - maybe you should read it if you want to know what *exactl* this means. I am still trying fanthom the meaning, if any, of this particular subject.



I posted the original post with the clear message that I was not making accusations. If no one replied, then it would be a non-issue. Heck, you even replied - how am *I* instigating?

If you want to ban me for making an apparently non-Politically Correct issue, please do so. That is fully within your moderater powers. After all, any and all posts are made with my personal responsiblity in mind.

Give me a frigging break - if you don't stop implying I'm going to 'use' my mod status to 'ban you' or do something else nasty to you because I think its a silly thread, I'm going to ban you just for being a knuckle-head.

I'm posting in a thread you started. Period. Take a chill pill. It doesn't offend me, I don't care if Barbara Bush gave Mussolini a hummer at the Fascist Ball to be honest. I don't see the point. You posted the thread, explain why I should care? You must have thought there was some pertinence to the topic in order to have taken the trouble to have posted it.

Feel free to converse - but without taking a stand on what the relevance is, I again, really don't understand the point.

[SnyderShrugged]

Originally posted by Baculus


If you don't find it intriguing, then I cannot explain to you why you would.

Yeah, Ford motor helped to provide the means and manufactuering to the Nazis. That is well-known, along with the other companies that helped to fund and arm Hitler and the Nazis. Oddly enough, this included Jewish-connected banks; keep in mind, Nazi money had to come from somewhere, and his financing did not appear from a vacuum.

But the financial ties connected to Bush, and the interests he oversaw, were seen as one of the major financers of the Nazis, so I am not sure how much worse you could get.

Sorry, but to me, just because something is from 70-years ago does not mean it is of no consequence or interest. After all, one of my favorite books is Julius Caesar's Gallic Wars, written 2000 years ago.


Do you just believe any old tin foil hat theory that comes along?

http://www.cnn.com/US/9811/30/autos.holocaust/

exerpt:
Spelich said between 1936 and 1939, Ford's German unit, Ford Werke AG, did in fact participate in a barter program sanctioned by the German government that brought in raw materials and generated hard currency for the cash-strapped nation. But he said the Army report misrepresented the situation.

Before the outbreak of war, local managers at the Ford Werke medium-duty truck plant in Cologne, Germany, also refused to share certain information with Ford officials back at the company's headquarters in Dearborn, Michigan, Spelich said.

"There were things that management in Germany was doing that they kept Dearborn in the dark about," he said.

Do you have any proof beyond radical websites that validate Ford's "evil" involvement in Nazi Germany.

Do you understand that corporations that are global in scope will have operations that could easily be highjacked by a regime like Hitlers?

This is just another "Hate one of the most influential producers of the times because he got rich off his own efforts in changing manufacturing for the world" threads.

[Mad Mike]

Hey, I'm part German, part Italian, and I was born in Japan. what does that say about me? :laugh:

[Tarhog]

Originally posted by Mad Mike
Hey, I'm part German, part Italian, and I was born in Japan. what does that say about me? :laugh:

Damn...talk about your axis of evil (WWII wise anyway) :)

[Fred Jones]

I simply blamed Clinton, because that is what every Republican would do.

[zoony]

Originally posted by Tarhog


I don't care if Barbara Bush gave Mussolini a hummer at the Fascist Ball to be honest.

Now that would make for some interesting tailgate conversation.
(the "fascist ball"? :laugh: )

And Baculus, for the record, that would be intriguing. most definitely. ;)

[SnyderShrugged]

For crying out loud, didnt quite a few people of that time and now admire Henry Ford for his contributions to society?

[Baculus]

This is tiresome. I usually enjoy reading your point of view, I honestly do. It tends to be a good yin to the conservative yang that is omnipotent in these forums. However, this topic is pointless.

Well, it may be pointless - you may be correct. It may not have any bearing whatsoever on the sitting president. More so, I found it a historical oddity more so than anything else. And, no, I won't be producing any signature picutres with Bush as a Nazi. :-P


You threw a topic out for discussion.

I failed to see the connection to the White House. I asked you to explain.

You said that it cannot be explained, and now you're throwing a tantrum.

Well, you did say, "There is nothing intriguing about it. At all." Your responses seemed a bit on the, well, snarky side I guess, not sure what would be the correct word. I disgreed. I simply said that I couldn't explain how it would be interesting to you. But I didn't go out of my way to insult you, did I? And I am sorry, I am not sure where I threw the tantrum - I said that I couldn't explain to you why it would be interesting because it would be a post that would probably be long and tiresome. Nothing more, nothing less...It is hard to explain a POV in just a few words, you know?


As for the Kerry reference, we are in a two-party system. Your signature and thread topic would strongly indicate that you are not a member of the GOP. I played the odds and assumed you were a Democrat. I apologize for the mistake, but no reason for you to come across high and mighty and pretend like you were just served some kind of injustice.

I don't think I came across as if I was served some kind of injustice, I just get the "Kerry" thing all the time, because folks forget there are third-parties out in our country, so I tend to remind the other person quickly that I didn't vote for the man. More so, folks just always make certain assumptions, so I made a remark relating to that. And I used all caps, so maybe I should have avoided yelling, but I was a little defensive I guess. Haha. But it was not my intent to be insultive or snarky to you as well.

[Tarhog]

Baculus - I'll bow out of this thread since you are worried about it - just try and play nice guys.

[zoony]

Originally posted by Baculus

I don't think I came across as if I was served some kind of injustice, I just get the "Kerry" thing all the time, because folks forget there are third-parties out in our country, so I tend to remind the other person quickly that I didn't vote for the man. More so, folks just always make certain assumptions, so I made a remark relating to that. And I used all caps, so maybe I should have avoided yelling, but I was a little defensive I guess. Haha. But it was not my intent to be insultive or snarky to you as well.

As a fellow independent I know what you mean... sorry for the confusion and no worries :cheers:

[Baculus]

Do you just believe any old tin foil hat theory that comes along?

http://www.cnn.com/US/9811/30/autos.holocaust/

Really, don't you think that the Ford motor company would have figured out what was happening with their plant's involvement? But I have no idea of the *exact* involvement of Ford Motors, other then the connections that I have read about for years, which is obviously familar with some of the folks on this thread. That is probably a subject unto itself - American companies and their involvement with Nazi Germany. This happened with American companies and Iraq, and it is happening with American companies and Iran - don't you think it is possible that happened with American companies and the Nazi regime?

By the way, for the record, I own a Ford car. So I guess that didn't influence or color my opinion of the company that much did it? :-P

[Baculus]

As a fellow independent I know what you mean... sorry for the confusion and no worries

Thanks, and cheers to that. :-)

[SnyderShrugged]

Originally posted by Baculus


Really, don't you think that the Ford motor company would have figured out what was happening with their plant's involvement? But I have no idea of the *exact* involvement of Ford Motors, other then the connections that I have read about for years, which is obviously familar with some of the folks on this thread. That is probably a subject unto itself - American companies and their involvement with Nazi Germany. This happened with American companies and Iraq, and it is happening with American companies and Iran - don't you think it is possible that happened with American companies and the Nazi regime?

By the way, for the record, I own a Ford car. So I guess that didn't influence or color my opinion of the company that much did it? :-P

If you don't know facts then don't slander someone.

[zoony]

You own a Ford?

Funny, I figured you for a Prius owner. With the LL Bean interior.


:laugh: j/k man

[Baculus]

Give me a frigging break - if you don't stop implying I'm going to 'use' my mod status to 'ban you' or do something else nasty to you because I think its a silly thread, I'm going to ban you just for being a knuckle-head.

Sorry Tarhog - just when I saw the "ban" word, I said, "Oh lord, here we go!" If that gets bantered around, it is easy to make assumptions, right?

But hey, I can be a knucklehead - just my nature at times. :-) And I will play nice - after all, this is my 1000th post! Haha.

[Tarhog]

Congrats on reaching 1000 :cheers:

No one can say most of them haven't been interesting ;)

[SnyderShrugged]

Either way Bac, you sure got the troops riled up for a bit!

I got antsy when someone who added so much to our lives gets bashed after their death, But I can see you werent of bad intent so all is groovy with me!
PS
Thanks for buying a Ford!

[Baculus]

If you don't know facts then don't slander someone.

Oh no, Skin-n-vegas is in the thread! :-) (Added smiley so you know I was kidding!)

Ford motor company's is a debate unto itself.

[Baculus]

Haha, thanks Tarhog. Yeah, I like to live dangerously. ;-)

[SnyderShrugged]

Originally posted by Baculus


Oh no, Skin-n-vegas is in the thread!

Ford motor company's is an debate unto itself.


Tell you what, I still won't take back the nice post to you!!! I don't care how much you dish!:D

[Baculus]

Hey, thanks for the debate everyone, for good or bad - that is why I love this board. Either way, it gets my brain juice flowing! I don't know the truth of reality - most of us don't - unless we pick away the truth of the situation.

And remember, inspite of what some of you may think about my views, I am originally here for the Redskins, like most of you. So HTTR!

[Baculus]

Tell you what, I still won't take back the nice post to you!!! I don't care how much you dish!

I edited my post since I didn't include emotes the first time! I always enjoy my debates with you, in the end, skin-n-vegas.

[Baculus]

Funny, I figured you for a Prius owner. With the LL Bean interior.

Hey, that may be sharp!

Actually, I'd really love to have a Landrover - that would be really, really cool. But hey, what can I say, they are nice trucks!

[du7st]

If Henry Ford and Hilter had no connections, they certainly had ::ahem:: some of the same interests.

The International Jew - The World's Foremost Problem by Henry Ford (http://www.jrbooksonline.com/Intl_Jew_full_version/ijtoc_.htm)

The truth is that a bit of revisionist history has taken place following WWII. Western civilization has tried to make Germany into an isolated freak occurance. I can give some more examples if anyone is interested.

[SnyderShrugged]

Originally posted by Baculus


Hey, that may be sharp!

Actually, I'd really love to have a Landrover - that would be really, really cool. But hey, what can I say, they are nice trucks!

I can get ya a discount if needed, but beware, the Landrovers are some the the lowest in quality ratings (but getting better)

Go for the Lincoln trucks if you want luxury.

Personally, the Roush f150 stage 2 is badas$$!

Likewise back at you man, if we didnt have the crabby portions of debate, what fun would it be?

We end up skins fans in the end and thats what counts.



As to good old Henry, if ever in Detroit, check out his museum and Greenfield village. It's comparable to a small smithsonian IMHO.

He's got a vial of what is purported to be Edisons last breath at his death. Edison wanted him to capture it (through his son) for old times sake because they were such close friends. He also transported the childhood homes of some famous folks like the Wright Bros, and the Firestone entire farm to Greenfiled.

He even has the car Kennedy was shot in and the actual chair (blood stains and all) that Lincoln was shot in.

amazing stuff to see.

[unsonny]

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[SnyderShrugged]

was there a point to taking up multiple posts with that?

[Johnny Punani2]

Hey Baculus,

Since your so interested in Nazi ties to the Bush family. Why don't you also post info about ties the Kennedy family had with Nazi Germany and the Mafia?

[unsonny]

Originally posted by skin-n-vegas
was there a point to taking up multiple posts with that?

to anger the people who take this crap serious


and it worked:laugh:

[SnyderShrugged]

Originally posted by unsonny


to anger the people who take this crap serious


and it worked:laugh:


only anger is directed at those who seek to waste others time by posting childish pics that have nothing to do with the topic.

if you want to post to anger people, go onto a blog and leave this site to those who actually want to converse please.

[Henry]

I could agonize over this, but I'm not gonna.

This thread is closed.