MH: Redskins may be major players in trade talks

[bubba9497]

Redskins may be major players in trade talks

http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/sports/11456702.htm?template=contentModules/printstory.jsp

MIAMI - The Washington Redskins may have become the strongest contender in the battle for Michigan wide receiver Braylon Edwards at the No. 2 overall pick after positioning themselves with the Nos. 9 and 25 overall picks.

According to numerous sources, the Redskins have contacted San Francisco, Miami, Cleveland and Chicago about the chance to move up to one of the top four spots to get Edwards.

The Dolphins told the Redskins that if they wanted Edwards badly enough they would have to go to no later than the No. 2 spot to get him. Dolphins coach Nick Saban has told other teams interested in Edwards he will take him despite the widespread belief in the NFL that Saban will take a running back such as Ronnie Brown of Auburn.

The only exception to this is if San Francisco changes its mind and does not select Utah quarterback Alex Smith with the No. 1 overall pick.

As for cornerback Patrick Surtain, Thursday came and went with seemingly no progress on a possible deal with Kansas City, a source close to Surtain said.

On Wednesday, Kansas City president Carl Peterson indicated time is running out to complete a deal for Surtain. That deal likely would have to be done by today based on what Peterson was saying.

But a deal involving the No. 2 pick likely will have to wait until the Dolphins are on the clock Saturday after the draft begins at noon at the Jacob Javits Center in New York.

``Nobody is doing anything until they're sure what the 49ers are doing,'' said an executive whose team has shown interest in trading with the Dolphins to get Edwards.

That includes the Dolphins, who likely would take Smith if the 49ers don't. The Dolphins still might trade Smith. Tampa Bay, which has the No. 5 pick, has shown interest in Smith and might be willing to put together a package of picks to lure him from the Dolphins.

In addition, the Buccaneers also are interested in Edwards, but not as strongly as with Smith.

Minnesota, which has the No. 7 and 18 picks, also has contacted the Dolphins about trading up to get Edwards. However, a source indicated the Vikings will not give up both high picks to move up.

That leaves Washington as the team that might be most willing to deal, given the Redskins' history. In the five years Daniel Snyder has owned the Redskins, the team has traded up once, and used the No. 10 overall pick in 2003 to get wide receiver Laveranues Coles as a restricted free agent from the New York Jets.

Snyder is known in NFL circles as more than willing to do something he considers splashy in either free agency or the draft. In the past, he has signed high-profile players such as Bruce Smith and Deion Sanders and traded for running back Clinton Portis.

[inmate running the asylum]

Crap, :pooh: I hope this is just a smokescreen to draft Jason Campbell, after Fatso blew our cover. I mean five high picks to move up and acquire a rookie WR, who may take a couple years like so many rookies in the NFL to pan out -- if he ever does. :doh:

I'm making an offering to Zeus tonight (cheeseburgers) so this scenario doesn't pan out and we get Mike Williams at #9 and Jason Campbell at #25, or maybe even Matt Jones. :rolleyes:


http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/sports/football/11458205.htm

Posted on Fri, Apr. 22, 2005
Redskins enter chase for Edwards
BY JASON COLE
jcole@herald.com

The Washington Redskins may have become the strongest contender in the battle for Michigan wide receiver Braylon Edwards at the No. 2 overall pick after positioning themselves with the Nos. 9 and 25 overall picks.

According to numerous sources, the Redskins have contacted San Francisco, the Dolphins, Cleveland and Chicago about the chance to move up to one of the top four spots to get Edwards.

The Dolphins told the Redskins that if they wanted Edwards badly enough they would have to go to no later than the No. 2 spot to get him. Dolphins coach Nick Saban has told other teams interested in Edwards he will take him despite the widespread belief in the NFL that Saban will take a running back such as Ronnie Brown of Auburn.

The only exception to this is if San Francisco changes its mind and does not select Utah quarterback Alex Smith with the No. 1 overall pick.

As for cornerback Patrick Surtain, Thursday came and went with seemingly no progress on a possible deal with Kansas City, a source close to Surtain said.

On Wednesday, Kansas City president Carl Peterson indicated time is running out to complete a deal for Surtain. That deal likely would have to be done by today based on what Peterson was saying.

But a deal involving the No. 2 pick likely will have to wait until the Dolphins are on the clock Saturday after the draft begins at noon at the Jacob Javits Center in New York.

''Nobody is doing anything until they're sure what the 49ers are doing,'' said an executive whose team has shown interest in trading with the Dolphins to get Edwards.

That includes the Dolphins, who likely would take Smith if the 49ers don't. The Dolphins still might trade Smith. Tampa Bay, which has the No. 5 pick, has shown interest in Smith and might be willing to put together a package of picks to lure him from the Dolphins.

In addition, the Buccaneers also are interested in Edwards, but not as strongly as with Smith.

Minnesota, which has the No. 7 and 18 picks, also has contacted the Dolphins about trading up to get Edwards. However, a source indicated the Vikings will not give up both high picks to move up.

That leaves Washington as the team that might be most willing to deal, given the Redskins' history. In the five years Daniel Snyder has owned the Redskins, the team has traded up once, and used the No. 10 overall pick in 2003 to get wide receiver Laveranues Coles as a restricted free agent from the New York Jets.

Snyder is known in NFL circles as more than willing to do something he considers splashy in either free agency or the draft. In the past, he has signed high-profile players such as Bruce Smith and Deion Sanders and traded for running back Clinton Portis.

[Ghost of Nibbs McPimpin]

Yeah, it would suck if we ended up with the next ARt Monk, but more athletic.

[SkinsFTW]

Originally posted by Ghost of Nibbs McPimpin
Yeah, it would suck if we ended up with the next ARt Monk, but more athletic.

Could also be the next 50/50 and a bigger head case as well.

[Ghost of Nibbs McPimpin]

SkinsFTW

Read the thread just below.

No, he WONT be the next 50/50. Please remedy the ignorance.

He bought a Bentley, he must be a head case!

[herrmag]

You're nuts. MW will be at least a "good" receiver, if not great. I hope we end up with the exact scenario you're talking so negatively about. Pat Ramsey...Like him as a person, love his arm, but i'm not going to pass up on a possible better QB just cuz he's been a skin for a few years. HELLO! Players have no loyalty to the fans, so i have no loyalty to players anymore (comment not directed specifically at PR).

[soljaofjesus]

Originally posted by Ghost of Nibbs McPimpin
Yeah, it would suck if we ended up with the next ARt Monk, but more athletic.

or a bust .. but if we get this guy who do you think will start. we havent gave jacobs a clear shot and gibbs has already said jacobs and thrash will be intergral parts of a offense adn also said that we have plans for mccants.. so wats goin on here

[SkinsFTW]

I'm not sure many will agree that one WR is worth our next 2 1st rounders our 3rd rounder and next years 4th. Especially since we already gave up 2 defensive players and signed 2 receivers this offseason and we still need a DE and a CB at least as much has we need a rookie WR.

[Nighthawk]

Why does it seem that it has become common place for sports writers to make mistakes when reporting known facts.

The Redskins never traded the 10th pick in the 2003 draft for Coles. We traded the 13th pick in the 2003 draft for Coles.

If he can't get something that simple right, then I question the rest of what he wrote as well.

[inmate running the asylum]

Originally posted by Ghost of Nibbs McPimpin
Yeah, it would suck if we ended up with the next ARt Monk, but more athletic.

Yeah like we don't have any other needs and can afford to give up 4 or 5 high draft picks for Edwards, when every starting defensive lineman on the team in 2006 will be on the wrong side of 30 and us without a #1 draft pick. :doh:

And for your information Art Monk was a running back at Syracuse, not a wide receiver. :)

[bubba9497]

http://www.extremeskins.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=99804

[Ernie5]

That leaves Washington as the team that might be most willing to deal, given the Redskins' history. In the five years Daniel Snyder has owned the Redskins, the team has traded up once, and used the No. 10 overall pick in 2003 to get wide receiver Laveranues Coles as a restricted free agent from the New York Jets.

Snyder is known in NFL circles as more than willing to do something he considers splashy in either free agency or the draft. In the past, he has signed high-profile players such as Bruce Smith and Deion Sanders and traded for running back Clinton Portis.

As Gore Vidal said, I almost don't know where to end much less begin. First off: notice the internal inconsistency in the first paragraph -- "given the Redskins' history" they're likely to trade up as "[i]n the five years Daniel Snyder has owned the Redskins, the team has traded up once ..." Quite a history. The "writer" neglects to mention that we traded down twice in the first round to pick up Ramsey at #30.

Further, I am sick to death of the use of the word "splashy" to describe what Snyder likes to do. Huh? He has one wheel-and-deal off-season (his first as owner in 2000) & he's branded for life. Portis wasn't a flashy deal -- it solved a problem: we had a malcontent CB & needed a front-line RB. Because Portis is well-known, it's a splashy move? Funny: I thought it was a football move. Oh yeah: and I thought Gibbs made the move. Is Gibbs splashy? Were Griffin, Washington & Springs splashy moves or did they address needs (very very well)?

In addition, move up the article and notice the journalistic integrity: "According to numerous sources, the Redskins have contacted San Francisco, Miami, Cleveland and Chicago about the chance to move up to one of the top four spots to get Edwards." In other words, according to the Redskins who annouced they've talked to teams about moving up or down and that they would consider trying to move up to get Edwards.

[cphil006]

Originally posted by Ernie5
That leaves Washington as the team that might be most willing to deal, given the Redskins' history. In the five years Daniel Snyder has owned the Redskins, the team has traded up once, and used the No. 10 overall pick in 2003 to get wide receiver Laveranues Coles as a restricted free agent from the New York Jets.

Snyder is known in NFL circles as more than willing to do something he considers splashy in either free agency or the draft. In the past, he has signed high-profile players such as Bruce Smith and Deion Sanders and traded for running back Clinton Portis.

As Gore Vidal said, I almost don't know where to end much less begin. First off: notice the internal inconsistency in the first paragraph -- "given the Redskins' history" they're likely to trade up as "[i]n the five years Daniel Snyder has owned the Redskins, the team has traded up once ..." Quite a history. The "writer" neglects to mention that we traded down twice in the first round to pick up Ramsey at #30.

Further, I am sick to death of the use of the word "splashy" to describe what Snyder likes to do. Huh? He has one wheel-and-deal off-season (his first as owner in 2000) & he's branded for life. Portis wasn't a flashy deal -- it solved a problem: we had a malcontent CB & needed a front-line RB. Because Portis is well-known, it's a splashy move? Funny: I thought it was a football move. Oh yeah: and I thought Gibbs made the move. Is Gibbs splashy? Were Griffin, Washington & Springs splashy moves or did they address needs (very very well)?

In addition, move up the article and notice the journalistic integrity: "According to numerous sources, the Redskins have contacted San Francisco, Miami, Cleveland and Chicago about the chance to move up to one of the top four spots to get Edwards." In other words, according to the Redskins who annouced they've talked to teams about moving up or down and that they would consider trying to move up to get Edwards.

agreed. What did we do last offseason? Sign effective players such as Griffin, Washington, Springs, etc. Draft a FS, not the "splashy" K2. What have we done this offseason? Trade a disgruntled WR with a bad toe for a speedy WR. Sign a dominant C and a speed veteran WR to moderate contracts. Where is the "splashy/flashy" signings? Snyder made a mistake when he first took over the team. Maybe limp-wristed Norv Turner should have made more of a stand.

[SkinsRback04]

Doesn't this writer know we're simply engaged in a smokescreen to cover up our failure to keep Len Pastabelly out of the loop?

I mean, surely they watch ESPN in San Jose, don't they???????

[TheSteve]

All of you declaring the sure bust percentage of Braylon Edwards are letting your hysterical emotions of being burned think for you. I like Mike Williams, and at one point liked him better than Edwards, but I think he has a much greater percentage of being a bust than Edwards does. And this nonsense about him getting bentley so he must be the next Westbrook is inane.

[Golgo-13]

Would it be possible if we traded both our first rounders to the Dolphins for Surtain and their first rounder? If that were to happen then we could potentially walk away with a proven shutdown corner and Braylon Edwards. I think that would be a big boost at our need positions. I'm not sure that would be possible but it's an interesting thought.

[Funkyalligator]

no way should we draft Jason Campbell...he scored a 14 on the wonderlic test....he isn't very smart and will have a very hard time grasping NFL offenses and reading defenses.......Gibbs won't draft campbell along based on that.....I've seen the questions on the wonderlic test and I really question how anyone that scores a 14 on the test can actually function as a normal person.....

[MonkeySkin]

Originally posted by Ghost of Nibbs McPimpin
Yeah, it would suck if we ended up with the next ARt Monk, but more athletic.

That's TRUELY offensive and apalling.