I propose....

[skinsfanevan]

Antwan Jamison, Brenden Haywood, First round pick

for

Kevin Garnett, Mark Madsen




so how bout it? :applause:

[Warhead36]

I'd rather keep Haywood and not get Madsen.

[skinsfanevan]

I'd rather keep Haywood and not get Madsen.

right but dont you think they'd be more willing to trade garnett if we also asked for madsen?

[arenasisgod]

eh, id rather not lose tawn. And Minny would be cracked out to make that deal.

I am intrigued to see what Jermaine O'Neal is attracting. He would solve our problems at a much smaller price!

[Warhead36]

The TWolves would probably want Blatche and/or PJ Ramos.

Jamison gets a lot of hate, including from me, but I think since joining the Wizards he has put up CAREER #s.

[btcouchman]

no way i would give blatche it would be jaminson and ramos and etan for kg

[Diablo23]

We don't need a KG.. just a solid big man to put up constant numbers and play solid defense.

[no1fanofno21]

We don't need a KG.. just a solid big man to put up constant numbers and play solid defense.

aka KG, name someone out there that we could get,

KG = lots of money, but id be willing to give up everyone except arenas and caron, we could really use Dixon right now, fukcing idiots in the FA.

[hands11]

The TWolves would probably want Blatche and/or PJ Ramos.

Jamison gets a lot of hate, including from me, but I think since joining the Wizards he has put up CAREER #s.

As I have pointed out 1000 times. If he has 2 stars around him, he is an all star. He just isnt a guy like Gil or Caron who can do it all on his own. He isnt great at generating his own shot when he is the focus but if he has talent around him and he can just play his game, hes awesome.

[hands11]

We don't need a KG.. just a solid big man to put up constant numbers and play solid defense.


KG is a beast but I would rather watch the ending of this movie. We need to stay patient. We have a few bullets in the chamber with Blatche and Ramos and some players we have invested in like Jefferies and Haywood who are solid to getting ready to break out. AD was a great addition so now we have 4 solid players in AD, Gil, Caron and AJ. Add what Jefferies is showing plus solid play from Etan and Haywood. I wouldn't change a thing. We get Ramos next year and Blatche. That's like getting 2 number one draft picks. Plus Hayes will get another shot. He will come off the bench.

Naahhh, we have plenty here already and the cap numbers are working fine. I dont think we need to change course and get a KG. We have 10 good players and 2 open slots the Ruffin, and the rest will compete for. We changed a good bit last year. I think this offseason will be more quit. If we just had the team (gelled & matured ) we have now to start the year, we would win another 5-10 games.

[Nighthawk]

The last thing you want to do is blow up the chemistry on this team just to bring in a big name like KG.

This team has a year under their belt together and next year they should be much improved especially if they get something out of either Hayes or Jeffries.

I wouldn't give up Blatche. To much promise right now. Ramos needs a lot of work. A LOT OF WORK. I watched a few of the Roanoke games on NBA TV and he does a lot of standing around watching. If the play doesn't come to him, he doesn't seem to make an effort to get involved on defense.

Haywood and Etan alone aren't great, but combine them together and you have a decent player.

AJ, Caron, Areanas and AD give you a nice nucleus. Again we just need Hayes and Jeffries to give us a little something for our trouble.

What I want to know is, what do we do with that 1st round draft pick?

[clathel]

The last thing you want to do is blow up the chemistry on this team just to bring in a big name like KG.

This team has a year under their belt together and next year they should be much improved especially if they get something out of either Hayes or Jeffries.

I wouldn't give up Blatche. To much promise right now. Ramos needs a lot of work. A LOT OF WORK. I watched a few of the Roanoke games on NBA TV and he does a lot of standing around watching. If the play doesn't come to him, he doesn't seem to make an effort to get involved on defense.

Haywood and Etan alone aren't great, but combine them together and you have a decent player.

AJ, CB, Gil and AD give you a nice nucleus. Again we just need Hayes and Jeffries to give us a little something for our trouble.

What I want to know is, what do we do with that 1st round draft pick?

You are right.
We dont want one of the top five players in the NBA...maybe top two.
Blowing up the chemistry of a team that will probably get eliminated in the first round and putting in another bonafide all-star player to make a lineup of AJ, Gil, CB, KG and anyone with a pulse would be awful.
(Give up our 2 first rounders this year, Haywood and Hayes for KG.
That would be worth it. Throw in Etan too. We dont need a poet we need a player.)
We need to stick with the 3 great players that we have and a bunch of questionable bench players that may never amount to anything and not improve in any way.

I would not give up on Blatche also, but he didnt get any minutes this season in NBADL or the NBA....So what makes you think he will get any good minutes next year?
He gets water for Etan during games, I think... and Etan cant hold Blatche's jock.
Blatche has alot more untapped talent and ability than Etan.
PJR is suspect on defense but so are most guys in the NBADL.
You have to play in the NBA to learn defense....Europe is actually a better place to learn defense.
The NBADL is possibly the worst place to learn defense.
If you want the young guys to learn they have to be played in the NBA.

Hayes would be nice to have if he could stay injury free.
I dont think he can.
JJ is Etan/Haywood Part II....disappearing for a few weeks after having a great night or 2.
AD is coming around for us at the right time.
CB is invaluable.
We just went 0-5 while he was out.
He came back and we won...against LeBron and Larry.
He has turned into a catalyst for the team.
The rest of the bench is very suspect.

I wonder if AD's skills will slip further next year because it took him so long to adjust to the system this year.
He has never had this hard a time adjusting to other teams.
Just as he gets really good, he will go on vacation.
I hope he stays in shape and gets better next year but he is over 30 and may lose another step.
This would be a great time for him to be traded since we will get the most value right now.

I almost agree with the idea that if you combine Etan and Haywood together and you have a decent player....I would say you get a high school JV player that gets paid alot to do nothing.

[Nighthawk]

clathel, re-read the first post and then comment.

He proposes trading AJ and Haywood for KG so in your senario, you wouldn't be adding KG to a lineup that would include AJ.

Secondly, trading AJ would destroy the chemistry that this team has developed with him, Arenas and Butler.

You know what you can do with your sarcastic commentary.

Look around at the successful teams and you'll see they aren't making wholesale changes every year to get better.

We continue to build stability in our team by adding key players while not subtracting key players.

KG is a fantastic player and if this were fantasy basketball we were talking about, I'd say do it, but it's not.

The Timberwolves try every year to build around KG and it hasn't worked because their unwilling to build any stability with him.

Now, if we could trade Haywood and Thomas along with Hayes for KG then I would do it since none of those players add the stability to this team.

[Thanos]

Let's wait and see if Ben Wallace wants out if the Pistons get another ring.I doubt Dumars will give him a max deal.

[clathel]

clathel, re-read the first post and then comment.

He proposes trading AJ and Haywood for KG so in your senario, you wouldn't be adding KG to a lineup that would include AJ.

Secondly, trading AJ would destroy the chemistry that this team has developed with him, Arenas and Butler.

You know what you can do with your sarcastic commentary.

Look around at the successful teams and you'll see they aren't making wholesale changes every year to get better.

We continue to build stability in our team by adding key players while not subtracting key players.

KG is a fantastic player and if this were fantasy basketball we were talking about, I'd say do it, but it's not.

The Timberwolves try every year to build around KG and it hasn't worked because their unwilling to build any stability with him.

Now, if we could trade Haywood and Thomas along with Hayes for KG then I would do it since none of those players add the stability to this team.


Please re-read my post....I said how to do it without getting rid of AJ....use our draft picks and a few bench players or guys that should be bench players at best like Etan and Haywood.

Nothing of my commentary was sarcastic....Except the first few sentences.
It seemed to me stupid to say that you would not want KG here just because of chemistry....I think it is pie in the sky to think we would get him. However, I dont think it foolish to want him.

I agree trading AJ would be foolish and destroy team chemistry and that our bench sucks and we wont go far into the playoffs with a starting or bench crew as it stands...
We need defense at the PF and C positions and one of those positions needs to be a consistent scorer too.
JJ, Etan, Haywood, among others, suck.
AD is old and is at the maximum trade value he will ever have for us right now because people think he is still a good player in this league.
Next year when he slows down another step we wont be able to get rid of him and he will be the next Chucky Atkins.
BTW, Where is he?(That is sarcasm.)
Hayes is always injured so how can we count on him?
Team chemistry is nothing if your team is injured... and the up and comers in the case of Blatche and PJR are not playing anywhere.