View Full Version : Top 5 most significant games in College Football since '98
hokie4redskins
May-17th-2006, 01:13 PM
According to Mandel.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/writers/stewart_mandel/05/16/mailbag/index.html
1) Florida State 46, Virginia Tech 29, Sugar Bowl, Jan. 4, 2000: While the Seminoles won the game, Michael Vick's epic performance was the single biggest impetus to the influx of athletic-style quarterbacks we see today. It's not like there weren't "mobile" quarterbacks prior to Vick, but coaches rarely gave them the freedom to improvise. Vick helped convince any remaining cynics just how big an impact such a player have on a game if properly unleashed, a la Vince Young in this year's Rose Bowl.
Diggs
May-17th-2006, 01:30 PM
That was a crazy game. Vick almost brought back VT and won the game by himself. The topic of mobile QBs winning anything meaningful has always been thrown around. Of course, it's ideal to have a QB who can throw the ball well, and make plays with his feet if needed. But I'd rather a guy who relies more on his arm than just tucking it and running when the first read is gone. Sure, Vince Young won a championship on the college level, but name one scrambling QB who won anything meaningful in the NFL? (I don't think Steve Young counts.)
mjah
May-17th-2006, 01:42 PM
By the author's own admission, the list only covers games since 1998.
You might want to edit the original post to include that fact.
hokie4redskins
May-17th-2006, 01:45 PM
happy now? :)
hokie4redskins
May-17th-2006, 02:05 PM
Sure, Vince Young won a championship on the college level, but name one scrambling QB who won anything meaningful in the NFL? (I don't think Steve Young counts.)
I agree. But to win anything meaningful, they still have to have all around support. McNabb abandoned his running game years ago. Vick was supposed to be the new prototype, but that hasn't yet come to fruition. Though, I blame that on Atlanta's front office. Alge friggin' Crumpler is his leading receiver.
The Evil Genius
May-17th-2006, 02:52 PM
That was a crazy game. Vick almost brought back VT and won the game by himself. The topic of mobile QBs winning anything meaningful has always been thrown around. Of course, it's ideal to have a QB who can throw the ball well, and make plays with his feet if needed. But I'd rather a guy who relies more on his arm than just tucking it and running when the first read is gone. Sure, Vince Young won a championship on the college level, but name one scrambling QB who won anything meaningful in the NFL? (I don't think Steve Young counts.)
Fran Tarkenton (although he did lose the 3 Super Bowls he played in) . But hey, that was almost 40 years ago.
:laugh:
As an aside, I can't believe that this article has the audicity to credit Northwestern with implementation of the spread offense. Who exactly do you think the coaches at that time learned it from?
mjah
May-17th-2006, 03:20 PM
happy now?
Quite.
Diggs
May-17th-2006, 03:26 PM
Fran Tarkenton (although he did lose the 3 Super Bowls he played in) . But hey, that was almost 40 years ago.
:laugh:
As an aside, I can't believe that this article has the audicity to credit Northwestern with implementation of the spread offense. Who exactly do you think the coaches at that time learned it from?
Exactly, he never WON a super bowl (see: McNabb, Cunningham, etc.).
He said that about the spread? Geez, some people are really clueless. It's one thing if you believe something cuz you don't know any better. But if you are trying to pass something off as fact, at least do some research. :doh:
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"Northwestern came down to Tulane after the 1998 season and took everything," he says. "I mean everything, right down to the terminology. We may have given them too much."
ROBBERY ON CAMPUS ARTICLE (http://www.sportingnews.com/yourturn/viewtopic.php?t=77167)
The Evil Genius
May-17th-2006, 03:44 PM
Here is what was said.
5) Northwestern 54, Michigan 51, Nov. 4, 2000: In talking to coaches the past several years, I've learned that this game is viewed as something of a landmark moment in the current craze toward spread offenses. When people saw Northwestern, which had one of the worst offenses in the country just a year earlier, use the spread to put up 654 yards on the Wolverines, it spawned a whole lot of copy-cats, most notably Urban Meyer when he took over at Bowling Green the following season.
While he didn't say they invented it - he didn't say who taught Northwestern it. I think it implies that Northwestern came up with it on their own and people are copying the offense from them.
Diggs
May-17th-2006, 03:55 PM
Here is what was said.
While he didn't say they invented it - he didn't say who taught Northwestern it. I think it implies that Northwestern came up with it on their own and people are copying the offense from them.
Yeah, it isn't that bad but still--you should give credit where credit is due. Besides... who do you think Urban Meyer has been coming to for his spread offense information? Hint: NOT Randy Walker :rolleyes:
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