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[hokie4redskins]

carry on please

[Diggs]

haha good find. i know about the ol' techsideline, they can be almost as ruthless (and sometimes as delusional) as the WVU boards at times. Notice I said almost. That being said, notice the majority of "replies" are half-assed cheapshots and other things that have nothing to do with the topic at hand. The point is, with the obvious bias in place, Blitz makes good points and you can't really disagree with his passion and the points he brings up. Hokies and other people isshing on WVU (and the BIG EAST) just need to face it right now. As of this second, WVU is on top (ok, top 3) of the NCAA football world right now. Will we crash and burn? Possibly, nothing is certain. But I'll enjoy the ride while it lasts.

[Diggs]

haha good find. i know about the ol' techsideline, they can be almost as ruthless (and sometimes as delusional) as the WVU boards at times. Notice I said almost. That being said, notice the majority of "replies" are half-assed cheapshots and other things that have nothing to do with the topic at hand. The point is, with the obvious bias in place, Blitz makes good points and you can't really disagree with his passion and the points he brings up. Hokies and other people isshing on WVU (and the BIG EAST) just need to face it right now. As of this second, WVU is on top (ok, top 3) of the NCAA football world right now. Will we crash and burn? Possibly, nothing is certain. But I'll enjoy the ride while it lasts.

well poopy, i wrote that for nothin then.

[hokie4redskins]

Just for you Diggs, since you're alright. I feared it might've violated some "call-out" rule.

http://www.techsideline.com/message_board/football/2006/May/30/2132680.php


But "good points" are in the eye of the beholder. One man's logic is another's delusion. Basic logic states we whooped up on WVU in their house, and some passionate, yet deluded 'eer fans attempt to ignore this logic. We proved we were the better team just like Miami and FSU proved they were better than VT. It's pretty cut and dry yet the arguments have raged for 6 months, which is beyond me. Passion sometimes overwhelms common sense.

[Major Harris]

Just for you Diggs, since you're alright. I feared it might've violated some "call-out" rule.

http://www.techsideline.com/message_board/football/2006/May/30/2132680.php


But "good points" are in the eye of the beholder. One man's logic is another's delusion. Basic logic states we whooped up on WVU in their house, and some passionate, yet deluded 'eer fans attempt to ignore this logic. We proved we were the better team just like Miami and FSU proved they were better than VT. It's pretty cut and dry yet the arguments have raged for 6 months, which is beyond me. Passion sometimes overwhelms common sense.

not that there was much logic on that link you provided. ;)

[Diggs]

One man's logic is another's delusion. Basic logic states we whooped up on WVU in their house, and some passionate, yet deluded 'eer fans attempt to ignore this logic. We proved we were the better team just like Miami and FSU proved they were better than VT. It's pretty cut and dry yet the arguments have raged for 6 months, which is beyond me. Passion sometimes overwhelms common sense.

I will not disagree with you that VT was the better than WVU the day you guys won 34-17. I won't even bring up the whole "Slaton wasn't starting..." even though I know you love it. :laugh:
You guys WERE the better team that day. However, WVU was the better team at the end of the season and IMO, is the better team now. THAT BEING SAID, of course anything could happen if they lined up again. WVU almost slipped up to ECU at home (well, before PW and SS started ;) ) yet bicchslapped GA in a virtual homegame for them. Gotta love the parity sometimes.

[PleaseBlitz]

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So you guys have been going to the VT message boards for help huh? :laugh:


Those guys cant help you. No one can. ;)

[hokie4redskins]

However, WVU was the better team at the end of the season and IMO, is the better team now. THAT BEING SAID, of course anything could happen if they lined up again. WVU almost slipped up to ECU at home (well, before PW and SS started ;) ) yet bicchslapped GA in a virtual homegame for them. Gotta love the parity sometimes.

Being a better team at the end of the season is still pure speculation. VT loses to Miami and FSU and all the haters claim "CHOKE" or "END SEASON COLLAPSE!!" Gimme a break. It's friggin' FSU and Miami. I REALLY hope no eer fan on this board is claiming they'd beat UM or FSU with what was on the line when the Hokies played them. WVU might've beat either of those teams had they slept on them like Georgia did. As stated earlier, HUNDREDS of times, WVU might've been the fourth best team in the ACC at BEST.

[Diggs]

Being a better team at the end of the season is still pure speculation.

It all depends on how you look at it. There is (for the most part) ONE national champion at the end of the year. It's pretty safe to say that they are the best team in the country. For the rest, it usually comes down to final rankings. I know there are a lot of factors involved, but if you don't go by them, then all you have is hearsay and speculation (this team is a big name team, so they shouldn't be ranked below this lesser known team, blah blah). Speculation? I dunno, but according to the best system of standings and ratings we have, WVU was a better team than VT at the end of the season.

VT loses to Miami and FSU and all the haters claim "CHOKE" or "END SEASON COLLAPSE!!" Gimme a break. It's friggin' FSU and Miami. I REALLY hope no eer fan on this board is claiming they'd beat UM or FSU with what was on the line when the Hokies played them. WVU might've beat either of those teams had they slept on them like Georgia did. As stated earlier, HUNDREDS of times, WVU might've been the fourth best team in the ACC at BEST.

speculation?
Here is the kicker. Sure, WVU schedule's got weaker post-ACC raid. But guess what, they have also gotten much better talent through recruiting since then as well. So you really can't say how well they would fare against the ACC. You bring up Miami.... they are nowhere near the team they were when they were in their dominating BIG EAST days. Coker has let them team/program fall apart so bad, it's sad.

It irks me when people say a team "slept" on another team (i.e., GA slept on WVU). Well, it was a BCS game. They were the SEC Champs. It's still football, you have to block and tackle. How do you "sleep" on a tailback running for 200+ yards and 3 scores on you? How do you "sleep" on hardhitting linebackers stripping the ball and knocking it loose from your ball carriers. We outplayed them, outhit them, outcouched, outscored them end of story.

At what point does a team go from "being slept on" to being a better team. WVU did not just move up to D1A. They have played for a national championship. They have the MOST wins in D1A of any team without a championship. We've earned it.

WVU might've been the 4th best team in the ACC? Hardly. But here is something to think about. VT struggled with its BIG EAST record during its last few years in the league. Then, goes to the ACC championship its FIRST year in the ACC. WVU will never be the power Miami was in the BIG EAST. Can't be, West Virginia has 1-5 division 1 caliber players a year out the state while Florida has 1-5 per freakin county. But, we can sure hold it down enough to keep the BCS status in check.

[PleaseBlitz]

Its also pure speculation that WVU wouldnt have been the #1 team in the ACC.


FSU was really bad last year. Miami isnt the Miami of old as Diggs mentioned. And VT well, lost to both of them. And barely beat the 2nd best team in the BE.

[PleaseBlitz]

So, were there any good replies to my post by HokieNation? I just saw cheap shots.

My favorite was the one about it being too hot to burn a couch. Thats just ridiculous, its NEVER too hot to burn a couch. :laugh:

[SkinsHokieFan]

Serious WVU denial in this thread

You guys never learn

FSU and UM in "down years" >> WVU in "up" years

Evidence? We beat WVU handily in their house, and don't come close to beating UM or FSU. Take care of the number 2 Big East team with a big 4th quarter

Old big east>> new big east

When Rich Rod leaves WVU for Miami (that is my call here after Coker is fired after this year) you'll see exactly how talented Miami still is, and when that talent shows up to play (11/5/2005) they are absolutley a terror

[PleaseBlitz]

Serious WVU denial in this thread

HAHAHAHA, is that why my posts end up on VT message boards begging for help. :laugh:

You guys never learn

FSU and UM in "down years" >> WVU in "up" years

FSU sucked this past year. We would have beaten them in a bowl game. Again pure speculation.

Evidence? We beat WVU handily in their house, and don't come close to beating UM or FSU. Take care of the number 2 Big East team with a big 4th quarter

Again, pure speculation. If A beats B and B beats C does that mean A will beat C? Thats not how it works or we can pull out the whole WVU>Georgia>LSU>Miami thing.

Old big east>> new big east

True, but who cares? Its bringing us Sugar Bowls

When Rich Rod leaves WVU for Miami (that is my call here after Coker is fired after this year) you'll see exactly how talented Miami still is, and when that talent shows up to play (11/5/2005) they are absolutley a terror

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PLACE YOUR BETS!

[Diggs]

FSU and UM in "down years" >> WVU in "up" years

C'mon dude, let's be a little bit reasonable. FSU has seriously underachieved lately (as has Miami) and I don't care how much "talent" you have. If you don't put it all together on the field, then you are what you are. An overrated team (see: WVU '04). It has become apparent that you just will never give WVU credit where credit is due.

Evidence? We beat WVU handily in their house, and don't come close to beating UM or FSU. Take care of the number 2 Big East team with a big 4th quarter

We've gone over this right? OK, VT beat us at home (although I would disagree with the "handily" part). Miami beat VT. Miami got THROTTLED by LSU. Georgia beat down LSU. WVU whooped up on GA. See.. we just can't play that card, too many unknowns.

Old big east>> new big east

Never seen anybody disagree with that (football speaking).

When Rich Rod leaves WVU for Miami (that is my call here after Coker is fired after this year) you'll see exactly how talented Miami still is, and when that talent shows up to play (11/5/2005) they are absolutley a terror

Rich Rod is going to stay at WVU for another 15+ years, count on it. The ONLY place he would coach at next would be in the NFL, and the Steelers. (I have a nice little inside source on this ;) ) No Miami, sorry. The guy is a Mountaineer, blue and gold for life baby.