OT - Wizards select Jarvis Hayes, Georgia, with 10th pick

[scottb]

any opinions from the board's BB analists?

[Even Madder]

Uhhh... the wizards still suck?

[AJWatson3]

pietrus should have been the man... plus, given the wizards draft history is there any doubt this guy won't pan out?

[Zen-like Todd]

check the wizards forum... in short, Ok pick, nothing spectacular. He is a shooter, which is something we dont have on the team right now, so that's good.

[OrangeSkin]

Here's my analysis. I'm just glad the Wizards picked a home-grown Georgian instead of one of those weird foreign dudes.

I should charge for this stuff, should I not? :)

[Reaganaut]

The 980 ESPN feed gave him low marks. He's a one trick pony who shot up fast in the draft due to workouts. Figures the Wizards make a rash decision on last minute information. Hayes didn't even know who Susan O'Malley was, he just said some "lady" told him from the Wizards. Nice job Wizards.

[AJWatson3]

i would have taken a foreigner over any of the american kids in this draft--- DARKO! he might not sell as many tickets, but he plays hard, is in excellent physical condition, is very intelligent, plays great defense, can shoot the three ball, can speak five languages, is 7'1" tall and only 18 years old... this kid is hungry.

[Mickalino]

They also extended Stackhouse....


http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=ap-wizards-stackhouse&prov=ap&type=lgns

[OrangeSkin]

Originally posted by AJWatson3
i would have taken a foreigner over any of the american kids in this draft--- DARKO! he might not sell as many tickets, but he plays hard, is in excellent physical condition, is very intelligent, plays great defense, can shoot the three ball, can speak five languages, is 7'1" tall and only 18 years old... this kid is hungry.
Darko over Carmelo = Bowie over Jordan

[scottb]

Blake in the 2nd round. Sounds like a marketing pick to me.

[EvilMonkeyBoy]

Originally posted by OrangeSkin

Darko over Carmelo = Bowie over Jordan

:no:

[Golgo-13]

I would have preferred Wille Green out of Detroit over Steve Blake.

[OrangeSkin]

Originally posted by EvilMonkeyBoy


:no:
Get back to me in 15 years. :yes:

[Zen-like Todd]

AJ, umm... we didnt have the 2nd pick in the draft.

Stop hating on Hayes. I dont think anyone here actually know anything about him. He's a screen shooter, and is a good fit for the offense that Jordan will be installing.

[Skeletor The Invincible]

I don't know anything about Hayes, but from watching the Wizards the few times that I did, I think they really needed a big man under the rim.

[earl]

hayes is a big time shooter and a hell of a defender. he is smart and moves well with out the ball. we needed a shooter and depth at the 3 and jarvis hayes gives us both. great pick

[AJWatson3]

crank, no $hit we didn't have the second pick...my response was to orange's preference of an american born player than a foreign born one... i thought the best player in the draft was darko....

i don't think hayes was the best pick, but i am not "hatin" on him... i think we needed to go big.

[js79]

better then lebron??

riiiight

[TennesseeCarl]

I saw a lot more SEC ball than ACC. Hayes is o.k. Nothing spectacular, but the Wiz could have picked a total stiff like Ridenour and they managed not to do that.

The Blake pick is a waste - just local marketing. Hope he proves me wrong.

[nfchamp1]

Originally posted by Skeletor The Invincible
I don't know anything about Hayes, but from watching the Wizards the few times that I did, I think they really needed a big man under the rim.

There was no available big man who is better than what the Wizards have now or has more potential. If you disagree, name 'em.

Originally posted by TennesseeCarl
I saw a lot more SEC ball than ACC. Hayes is o.k. Nothing spectacular, but the Wiz could have picked a total stiff like Ridenour and they managed not to do that.

The Blake pick is a waste - just local marketing. Hope he proves me wrong.


Blake was an excellent pick which had nothing to do with local ties. If he had been a lottery pick, you would have a leg to stand on. He can handle the ball, he can find open team mates and he can guard point guards.

[BayouBrave86]

I watched alot of SEC b-ball too. Jarvis Hayes impressed the hell out of me! The kid has mad skills, sure as hell tore up Lsu with all of his damn 3 pointers!

[nfchamp1]

Originally posted by WarpathBrave86
I watched alot of SEC b-ball too. Jarvis Hayes impressed the hell out of me! The kid has mad skills, sure as hell tore up Lsu with all of his damn 3 pointers!

I've never seen him play. I'm glad you think he's sick.

[Gamebreaker]

Hayes can shoot a three-pointer very, very well. That is something the Wizards really needed last season. In this aspect alone, they improved the team with this pick. He's also an impressive shooter from the field, so teams won't be centering all of their attention on Stack, not to mention he's a good defender. The Hayes pick was very good, and a step in the right direction for the club.

The Steve Blake pick was also good, IMO. Blake is a good court manager, he knows how to distribute the ball, and has shown good poise to step up in criticial situations. He's also a hardworker on defense like his buddy Juan. The Wizards had a good draft, don't be pessimistic about it simply because we're talking about the Wizards.

[TennesseeCarl]

Both Hayes and Blake were excellent college players. So were a lot of kids who won't make it in the NBA (and I'm not saying that Hayes won't make it - I'm very skeptical of Blake).

Keep in mind that only about 7 of the 28 second round picks taken last year (I think that's right or close to it) even made their team's opening day roster. And those second rounders last year included some excellent college players. It's just that the NBA game is so elevated.

One of my personal favorites, Chris Massie of Memphis, went undrafted. The kid goes 6' 9" and weighs about 255 lbs. In the college game, he's a stud. The NBA doesn't even come a knocking....

When I'm saying some of these guys aren't NBA talent, it's not that they have no talent - it's just that the air up there is so rarified.

[AJWatson3]

the big guy who could have helped us and was available at #10: Lampe... this kid will prove to be the steal of the draft... i can't believe nobody like LA picked him because they hadn't scouted him.... i understand you don't want to spend a pick on a guy you haven't seen play, but he was considered top-ten talent. he could have helped our team...

and yes, darko better than lebron. he will be a dominator in a few seasons.. a perrenial all-star, for his talent, not his popularity.

[TennesseeCarl]

I get to see a fair amount of Pau Gasol and while it would have been an unpopular pick at the time, had we taken him over Kwame Brown, we'd have made the playoffs.

Is Lampe that good? If so, was the draft rigged to favor the Knicks, who apparently can't get out of the hole they're in without help from the league.

[AJWatson3]

actually there was misleading info leaked about him right before the draft (remember fred smoot?).. it was about his buyout.... that is why the poor kid had to wait in the green room until the second round.


http://ak-sports.espn.go.com/f/1917/8668/6H/espn.go.com/media/nba/2003/0626/photo/r_lampe_vi.jpg
http://sports.espn.go.com/nbadraft/d03/story?id=1573370
"Apparently, the reason for Lampe's plummet was his contract with his Spanish club team, Real Madrid. Lampe and his agent thought they had a buyout for $1.8 million. FIBA, the world's basketball federation, felt otherwise.

"We got a letter from FIBA telling the teams that I had no buyout," Lampe said. "That wasn't true. But I thought everybody pretty much knew about the buyout. Maybe I was wrong."

he has been compared to dirk in some ways:
http://sports.espn.go.com/nbadraft/d03/tracker/player?playerId=18461

if we wanted hayes to play the 3 we could've had lampe...
SF rankings:
2. Maciej Lampe, Real Madrid (Poland)*
The line: 7-0, 240, 18 years old
The skinny: Lampe's been in the U.S. for over a week working out with Michael Jordan's trainer Tim Grover. During a private workout for the Heat and Raptors on Saturday, Lampe showed great range, a nice handle and enough athleticism to make a convincing argument that he should be a lottery pick. His shooting stroke is one of the smoothest I've ever seen in a big kid. He's got a nice body, has a very fluid game, and despite reports to the contrary, looked very good with his back to the basket. He's needs to become a better rebounder, defender and get stronger, but now that he's working with Grover, that shouldn't be a problem. He'll go anywhere from No. 7 to the Bulls to No. 13 to the Grizzlies.

[Gamebreaker]

I think Carmelo will be better than both Lebron and Darko.

[AJWatson3]

carmelo is def. ready now...

[ChrisFul]

Im a UGA Bulldog, and I'm quite surprised Jarvis moved all the way up to #10. He's a great scorer, plays good defense, and can rebound the ball. One of those all-around types that won't dominate in any one given area (except scoring, perhaps) but can do it all. Whereas a lot of scorers are slashers, Jarvis is more of a shooter. I don't know if he was worth the #10 pick, but he'll definitely be ready to come in and contribute early.

[jbooma]

Originally posted by TennesseeCarl
I get to see a fair amount of Pau Gasol and while it would have been an unpopular pick at the time, had we taken him over Kwame Brown, we'd have made the playoffs.

Is Lampe that good? If so, was the draft rigged to favor the Knicks, who apparently can't get out of the hole they're in without help from the league.

The problem with him is there is a chance he won't even be in the US for almost 4 years :(