Proposed 3-way trade:

[method man]

Wizards:

send: stack to pacers

Pacers:

send: al harrington to the bulls

Bulls:

send: pippen to washington and no. 3 pick to indiana

Wizards receive Pippen

Pacers receive #3 pick and stack

[Renegade7]

Scottie Pippen? I thought he was about ready to retire.

Pass.:)

[earl]

why? how is that even fair for anyone?

[beedyb220]

If this is correct... it looks like a cap clearing move. Maybe they will use the $$$ wisely.. :laugh: Can't believe I just said that..

[Renegade7]

Originally posted by beedyb220
If this is correct... it looks like a cap clearing move. Maybe they will use the $$$ wisely.. :laugh: Can't believe I just said that..

Me neither. :laugh:

[method man]

renegade we can use the money cleared from pippen to go after a good SF in FA like stephen jackson who had a career year with 18.1 ppg and was a league leader in steals

[method man]

Originally posted by earl
why? how is that even fair for anyone?

earl,

everyone is getting someone or something they want. washington is getting cap space with pippen with which we can make a move for steven jackson. the bulls are getting their target al harrington. the pacers are getting an outside shooter and the no. 3 pick which they can use to take dwight howard also. chicago has little to no need for the pick if deng is taken by the clips wit the no. 2 as expected. they are looking at lower lottery prospects such as iguodala and josh smith.

so in summary, the rich get richer (the pacers get a good player at both shooting guard and another potentially at frontcourt)

the wiz get cap space in the upcoming FA market which will give them about 7-8 million in cap space. they can use some of this to sign stephen jackson to a middle-priced contract. he was passed over last FA market and he isnt exactly being talked about this time. i predict that we can sign him in this market to a small-term 2 or 3 year deal that pays 3 to 4 mil annually.

if we have cap space left, we can sign greg ostertag or possibly even mark blount.

and guess wut.... we will have even more cap to play with next year with the expiring contracts of larry hughes and laettner. this will clear another 8 or 9 million by next year

btw stack becomes more expendable if we take livingston in the draft. after thinking about it a bit, i believe that this may be the right move. we all noe gil aint a starting point guard. so lets move him to SG but wut we need to complement arenas is a tall PG and that is what livingston is. this causes the opposing team's SG to guard livingston. Livingston from what I have been hearing is a great great passer who could probably operate teh princeton offense effectively.

[Leon Phelps]

Any proposed trade that gets :puke: Whackhouse out of town as soon as possible I am fully endorsing it.

[monkey66]

Anything to get rid of Stack is great imo.

However, the Wiz don't need a SF nearly as badly as they need a PF / C. I really don't see how Jackson improves the team...

[method man]

we do not have a real SF that can play. whether you guys admit it or not, hayes is more of a combo guard. jeffries flat out sux. monkey u r rite about how we need a C more than SF. i have read reports on blount and he has bad hands. this scares me from him bcause good hands are important for the princeton offense. do you think mehmet okur would sign for a mid-level exception like contract?

[monkey66]

Imo, the key is finding a good center. If we can get a legitimate center to go with Kwame / Etan, then having Hayes at SF is not as big a deal.

Okur is interesting. Unfortunately the curse of Lez Boulez always comes into play, all things being equal (contract wise) why would he come here?

And yeah I agree Jeffries sucks nuts... :D

[method man]

if okur wants to be paid he would come here. we r one of the only teams wit money left under the cap. the max he will see is a 4.5 mid level type contract.

[monkey66]

I read that the Knicks and Nuggets are also interested in Okur. It would be tough for us to get him over those two teams...

[method man]

nuggets prolly want to keep camby but they got tons of cap room to sign okur. knicks r u joking me? they r totally capped out. they can only use the mid level exceptoin

[tkatz]

Steven Jackson? The Spurs didnt even want to resign him after he helped them win a championship. They felt he was expendable and is a good role-player at best.

[hands11]

Originally posted by method man
Wizards:

send: stack to pacers

Pacers:

send: al harrington to the bulls

Bulls:

send: pippen to washington and no. 3 pick to indiana

Wizards receive Pippen

Pacers receive #3 pick and stack

NOT

[hands11]

This is about right. Some of these combinations posted make sense.

We could go big PG to run with Gil or Hughes.

Hayes is a tweener, not just because of size but becuase of his game. We could go with a big SF to run with Kawne and Etan.
Kwame may be useful at Center if he can get stronger and tougher and want to play there. He is already a big strong dude.
A lot depends on what Kwame does in the off season.

Hayes can run small ball at the 3 or get in line at the 2.
Hayes only works with big strong dudes at 5 and 4 and a big 1 if you want to run Gil at the 2. Hughes adds better size at the 2 so you woudnt need the big 1.

If we get a good Center, then Kwame starts at the 4 and you can get a slasher at the 3. You could use Stack for another year here and have Hayes back him up. Hopefully Stack shows something this year if you keep him, then you get something for him next year with a shorter contract to trade.

We have pieces. Whatever moves we make, they just have to make sense as a team. We need to be tougher up front.
Kwame is getting to be a hand full. If he keeps it up, he can be a monster. He showed some spurts last year. He can be a 20 & 10 guy that also gets to the line. He's so quick, stud body, he just needs the head to come along for the ride. I think he will get there. Last year was a transition year for him. This year is the one to look forward to.

Etan has the tude and heart. I hope we keep him.

We just need a few more up front like that.

Jefferies gets one more year to show something. Weak right now
but he started to shot more and he was rebounding. His game used to include that 15 shot. He shut is down all year till the end.
It started to look like there my be something there. Hey, more then on team has a 7 footer who cant shot but can rebound. He has potential to add a sweet shot, if he can get his head together.

Haywood tries to be tough, but he isnt moble enough. back up or gone. He could be a roll player.

Stack has the tude, but he was hurt and Im not sure his game will blends. An old twener like Hayes only he have more toughness. You could run him with a line up like
Kwame, K Martin, Stack. He would effective in a line up like this. He can even pass.

Hayes is to soft and smiley. I want a warrier up there. 2nd string until he gets tougher.

Well see how the team adjusts. When you have a team that sucks, everyone wants to be the star. Once you have more proven talent on the court, player have to back off some and do whats best for the team. Look at Payton in LA. Thats what players do when they have other stars on the team.

Kwame, Gil, Hughes, Stack. The coach is the one who is supposed to get this straight. Will see what kind of coach Jordan really is.

[Kevin101]

I would really keep Craphouse instead of 60 year old Pip. As much as I respect Pip's game I just don't want him here. He was a great player but I think hes done.

[method man]

kevin,

pip hav u read any of the other posts? i want pip bcause his contract is off the books this offseason bcause he is retiring.