What really pisses me off is

[REDALERT]

All the players we traded for others like Ike,Richmond,Stackhouse don't stick around long. Eventhough strickland stuck around for awhile. The majority of the players we traded marquee players for end up going elsewhere anyhow.



What's the use? We can't win for losing:mad: .

When will one day a trade we make grant us a player that sticks around for awhile or/and be productive.

We never saw the fruit of our labor from players we traded like

Rasheed
Ben Wallace
Chris Webber
Richard Hamilton/granted Stack sticks around and not be choosen.
Darwin Ham
Courtney Alexander and others....

We should have atleast one left over productive player for the loss of all these players.


What a waste...

[monkey66]

I agree dude, it is pathetic...

[mhd24]

1) Darvvin Ham has been with like 6 teams since he left here.
2) Courtney Alexander (while 1000 times better then Juan Dixon), has done nothing since he left.
3) Rasheed Wallace was a head case who hadn't done anything until he was traded. At least Rod took us to the playoffs.
4) Larry Hughes puts up the same numbers as Rip at half the cost. The mistake was extending Stack, not trading Rip.
5) Of course letting Ben go was a mistake.
6) The Webber trade was the worst of all of them.

[Saint Joe]

Larry Hughes is not half the player Rip Hamilton is, offensively or defensively. Larry Hughes takes one bad shot after another and though Hughes outscored Hamilton last year, Hughes did not have to share the ball with other scorers such as Billups, Wallace, and Prince. Hughes had 2.4 assists per game to Hamiltion's 4, and Hughes' field goal percentage was just 39% to Hamilton's 45%.

[Funkyalligator]

Hughes shot pretty well until he injured his wrist.......also he plays better defense than Rip does......

[mhd24]

Hughes is a much better defender than Rip. He's a much better rebounder. He steals more, blocks more, and he gets to the line MUCH more frequently then Rip. Have you seen Rip play defense? He still stinks. The reason why Detroit won was because Prince can cover the best perimeter players. Did you see Rip ever cover Kobe in the series? Hughes is also a MUCH better 3-point shooter. Instead of using field goal % use a much more telling stat: EFFECTIVE FIELD GOAL %.

Larry Hughes's effective Field goal %: 44.6
Rip's: 46.8

While Rip is a better scorer, Hughes does basically everything else better at half the cost.

[mhd24]

Oh, and trading Rip was still the right move. If we had not traded Rip, his rookie salary was counting 300% against the salary cap, whereas Stack's didn't. Once again, the mistake was extending Stack, not trading for him. If we would have kept Rip, I don't think we could have signed Arenas.

[method man]

mhd,

plus if we get a PG in FA causing arenas to move to SG, Hughes is very very very good trade bait. This is the last year of his deal and its at a bargain price.

[Fatty P For The Pulitzer]

Originally posted by mhd24
Did you see Rip ever cover Kobe in the series?

Actually, I did. At the end of game 2 when Kobe drilled that shot to tie the game, when Rip was standing 10 feet off of Kobe waiting for him to drive, even though they needed a 3 to tie.

Rip is a very below average defender, but the Pistons great team D can hide most of that. Rip is a great role player, but he wanted us to build the team around him by asking for a huge contract, and Jordan was right to ship him off. Don't let Wilbon or Aldridge, or whoever calls it a terrible trade, fool you. If Unseld and Pollin hadn't extended Stack, for some reasons unknown to intelligent man, it would have been a good trade because we'd have a ton of money this offseason and a good-when-healthy SG in Hughes. Unfortunately though, KG re-upped with Minny and Kobe probably would not have come here to play for Jordan. But we would still be able to vastly improve our team, now we're stuck praying Stack is taken by the Bobcats, or some even dumber GM and owner want to trade for Stack. Otherwise, we have to pull off a trade with one of our young players and/or the #5, or it'll be another tough, rebuilding year (which hopefully EJ will play our young guys and bring Stack in off the bench).