Rod-Rasheed wasn't that bad

[method man]

I was looking over Rod's stats a little. To tell you the truth, I do not think that we got ripped off to the extent we all think. Rod had a nice 3-season streak where he averaged 8.9-10.5 apg, 15.7-17.8 ppg, 4.1-5.3 rpg (good for a PG). these stats tell me he was productive for quite some time here. in fact, i think he should have made the all-star team for his 1997-1998 season where he averaged 5.3 rpg, 10.5 apg, and 17.8 ppg.

In the meantime, I think Rasheed is overrated due to his publicity. He is not exactly a "good" PF (not the ""). he does not stay in the paint and rack up rebounds. He has not even had a season where he has averaged 9 rpg. He has only had one season where he has averaged over 8 rpg.

It is Web-Richmond I really feel we got ripped off big time. That idiot abe pollin said he traded webber because he wanted his team to have a clean image. i would rather have a team like the blazers rather than a team like the clippers.
Give me your opinions?

[seand89]

I completely agree with you. Rod Stickland had some very good years for the Wizards. Just because the team didn't do well with him doesn't mean he didn't do well. I would also much rather have Chris Webber than Mitch Richmond. Richmond is 8 years older and not nearly as talented.

[Zen-like Todd]

The Rod-Rasheed trade looks bad precisely because of the other trades made by Wes to deprive the Wizards of a force in the paint. Everybody and their mother knew that Howard wasn't the answer at PF. So when we shipped Webber out, leaving no talent in the frontcourt (not even mentioning the ridiculous Ike Austin for Ben Wallace + trash trade), everyone groaned and showed their dismay at a self-induced power failure in the front court that the Wizards are still trying to recover from to this day (see Kwame Brown).

[method man]

I can't believe that we had 5 great big men on one team at one time.

[method man]

btw unseld was forced to trade webber on orders from that ******** pollin. pollin wanted "a clean image" at the time. pollin = prick

[Gamebreaker]

I remember watching a Webber interview, and Webber talked about the trade to Sac-town. He said when he was in DC, he wasn't focused on basketball and didn't take the correct approach to the game. It took the trade to wake him up and realize that his life wasn't one big party, and he needed to help the team win, stay out of trouble, and not just party and worry about his own numbers.

It's possible the Wizards would've only been marginally better with Webber still here and still not taking the game seriously.

[gbear]

I always thought Wilbon said it correctly about the Webber trade: "We're losing with you. We can almost certainly lose without you."

Webber was a huge distraction on a bad team going nowhere. I can't bring myself to regret that trade. We got next to nothing back, but that was just about the net positive Webber was bringing to the Wizards. That Webber went on to get his act together and become a decent player is a credit to him. However, people keep thinking we traded the Webber that plays in Sacremento. I don't know that he would ever have become that player if he stayed here.

[Brooklynskinsfan]

Rod was my favorate player for a long time and was the only one playing his arsse off every night

[monkey66]

Originally posted by gbear
I can't bring myself to regret that trade. We got next to nothing back, but that was just about the net positive Webber was bringing to the Wizards.

I have to disagree. Obviously Webb was a disappointment and was not playing near the level he should have been.

But we did not get anything of value in return. As Unseld himself said, we traded young for old, big for small. The two biggest no no's in basketball. It was if Unseld tried to get the least amount of value possible.

Cut off your nose to spite your face...

:puke:

[clubisyohankovic]

Originally posted by gbear
I always thought Wilbon said it correctly about the Webber trade: "We're losing with you. We can almost certainly lose without you."

Webber was a huge distraction on a bad team going nowhere. I can't bring myself to regret that trade. We got next to nothing back, but that was just about the net positive Webber was bringing to the Wizards. That Webber went on to get his act together and become a decent player is a credit to him. However, people keep thinking we traded the Webber that plays in Sacremento. I don't know that he would ever have become that player if he stayed here.

What he said.

[Burgold]

The thing I find odd about the Rasheed for Rod trade was that I thought part of the reason they got rid of Rasheed at that point was that he was considered immature and a bad seed. Well, in their stead they got Strickland who was a talent in his own right, but also suffered from maturity issues. Maybe I'm misremembering and it was strictly a surplus of big men trade... it is odd that from a place not too long ago where we had a surplus, now we're not even sure if we've got one.

[monkey66]

Originally posted by Burgold
The thing I find odd about the Rasheed for Rod trade was that I thought part of the reason they got rid of Rasheed at that point was that he was considered immature and a bad seed. Well, in their stead they got Strickland who was a talent in his own right, but also suffered from maturity issues.

You are assuming the Wizards use logic and reasoning in their roster moves...

In all seriousness, the thinking was that Robert Pack was injury prone and could not run the point. The Wiz had a logjam at PF, and felt Rasheed was expendable.

Rod played some great ball here, in fact there was a bit of an outcry one year when he didn't make the all star team because of his bad rep...

[earl]

it was a good trade, because for a 3-4 year span rod was one of the best pg's in the league, and my favorite wizard. if our FO had half a brain, they would have hired a real coach to get these guys in check. Then we could have kept sheed, cwebb, and traded howard for rod. we would have been scary, and cwebb wouldn't have b1tched about trading his buddy, because we'd be winning.

[earl]

the thing that makes the cwebb trade so horrible, is not only did we trade big and young for old and small, but that off season spreewell was a FA because he choked his coach, and he openly said he wanted to be in DC with Cwebb. but of course we managed to screw all that up. imagine
rod
sprewell
howard
cwebb
ben wallace

[monkey66]

Originally posted by earl

imagine
rod
sprewell
howard
cwebb
ben wallace

I'd rather not... :puke: