View Full Version : Dear Dan Snyder: Please Buy The Nats
GrimReefa
January-25th-2005, 10:25 PM
I'm a soon-to-be-ex-Oriole fan. It has become obvious, especially this offseason, that Peter Angelos has nothing but contempt for the fans and wants only to line his own pockets. I will not stand for being disrespected.
I love baseball, but I can not continue to support a team that shows me nothing in return. I know that if you buy the Nationals, you will do everything in your power to make sure that they are a legitimate contender, never hesitating to pull the trigger on the trade or free agent signing that could put this team over the top.
I want to switch over to the Nationals but I don't want to do it before I know who the new ownership is, how committed they are to providing this area with a winning team, and what they are willing to spend to do so.
In baseball you wouldn't be burdened by the salary cap that causes you so many headaches in the NFL. If you bought the team, you would put all my anxieties about the new ownership to rest and I could become a full-fledged Nationals fan.
Thanks,
GrimReefa
TheDoyler23
January-26th-2005, 12:35 AM
Two things.
1. I believe there are rules against an NFL owner also being the owner of a MLB team.
2. You're jumping ship on the Orioles becuase they couldn't land Delgado? Look, the Orioles offered basically the same amount of money for him, as well as an equal sum for Sexton, and they even offered MORE than the yankees @ one point for Pavano. Sexton and Delgado wanted to play near their homes, and Pavano bought into the NY scene. What were thew O's to do? Force somebody?
I guess they'll push for Ordonez, but that knee injury sounds pretty creaky too me. There are some rumours about tradeing a few players to the D-backs for Vasquez, and another deal that would Land Aubrey Huff from the DRays. Just speculation.
Fatty P For The Pulitzer
January-26th-2005, 12:33 PM
Originally posted by TheDoyler23
Two things.
1. I believe there are rules against an NFL owner also being the owner of a MLB team.
2. You're jumping ship on the Orioles becuase they couldn't land Delgado? Look, the Orioles offered basically the same amount of money for him, as well as an equal sum for Sexton, and they even offered MORE than the yankees @ one point for Pavano. Sexton and Delgado wanted to play near their homes, and Pavano bought into the NY scene. What were thew O's to do? Force somebody?
I guess they'll push for Ordonez, but that knee injury sounds pretty creaky too me. There are some rumours about tradeing a few players to the D-backs for Vasquez, and another deal that would Land Aubrey Huff from the DRays. Just speculation.
Jeffrey Loria owns the Eagles and the Marlins. I think the rule is something like NFL owners can't own other pro sports franchises in the same city as their NFL team.
And the O's got outbid by the Marlins for Delgado. That's pretty sad for one of the small market teams that is always rumored to be moving. He's crying about how the contracts are too expensive, but most other franchises don't seem to mind. The O's farm system is average at best, so you either have to overpay for free agents or keep to the status quo, which for the O's is not very pretty. With the team they have now, they won't win as many games as last season, unless the young pitchers start performing.
spjunkies
January-26th-2005, 12:41 PM
Hmmmm, I guess Dan could buy the team since the Skins are in MD :)
DO IT DAN!!!
SILKYSMOOTH
January-26th-2005, 12:42 PM
There is no state income tax in FLorida as well.
RedskinsNation
January-26th-2005, 02:04 PM
Originally posted by Fatty P For The Pulitzer
Jeffrey Loria owns the Eagles and the Marlins. I think the rule is something like NFL owners can't own other pro sports franchises in the same city as their NFL team.
And the O's got outbid by the Marlins for Delgado. That's pretty sad for one of the small market teams that is always rumored to be moving. He's crying about how the contracts are too expensive, but most other franchises don't seem to mind. The O's farm system is average at best, so you either have to overpay for free agents or keep to the status quo, which for the O's is not very pretty. With the team they have now, they won't win as many games as last season, unless the young pitchers start performing.
No dude your wrong on this.
Jeff Lurie Owns the Iggles
Jeff Loria owns the Marlins.:cheers:
GrimReefa
January-26th-2005, 03:07 PM
Originally posted by TheDoyler23
Two things.
1. I believe there are rules against an NFL owner also being the owner of a MLB team.
2. You're jumping ship on the Orioles becuase they couldn't land Delgado? Look, the Orioles offered basically the same amount of money for him, as well as an equal sum for Sexton, and they even offered MORE than the yankees @ one point for Pavano. Sexton and Delgado wanted to play near their homes, and Pavano bought into the NY scene. What were thew O's to do? Force somebody?
I guess they'll push for Ordonez, but that knee injury sounds pretty creaky too me. There are some rumours about tradeing a few players to the D-backs for Vasquez, and another deal that would Land Aubrey Huff from the DRays. Just speculation.
I thought Snyder was trying to lead a group to buy the Expos a while ago with the BET guy.
And secondly, the Orioles have to OUTBID other teams to get free agents. They KNOW this, because that is how they got Tejada. They can't just throw up the same offer as anybody else and hope they come here. They'll NEVER come here if they do that. Why would they when they can go to a team that is already a winner or close to it?
They KNEW their bids for Pavano and Delgado would fail. Angelos wants them to fail. He wants attendance to plummet this year so he can point to the MLB and say, "See, the Nationals came to town and our attendance dropped. Give me money."
This isn't a decision I just came to when the O's refused to be competitive for Delgado. They have been losing for 7 years. Only 4 other teams in MLB boast that kind of futility. They are: the Devil Rays, the Tigers, the Pirates, and the Brewers. Don't give me the bandwagon fan routine, because the Orioles bandwagon crashed a long time ago. I'm jumping ship on the Orioles - of whom I have been a fan since I was 8 years old (which is 15 years, btw) because this offseason they have made CLEAR to me that they (and by they I mean Angelos, Beattie, and Flannagan) are NOT interested in winning, but in how much profit they can make. They had 16 million dollars in salary come off the books this offseason and they haven't spent ANY of it. If your only goal is to collect money from the fans, then I refuse to be one of those fans.
I'm not jumping on the Nats bandwagon yet because I don't know what their ownership picture is going to look like. Some group out of Tennessee (I think) is trying to buy them, and I worry that they might be looking at the Nationals as an investment rather than as something to pour money into in order to build a winner. Once I can see who their ownership is and how they'll run things, then I can either become a fan of that team or maybe I'll just go look for another team. I don't care at this point.
If something drastic happens in Baltimore, like PA dies or sells the team, then I'll be glad to go back to the Orioles. They don't have to win - look at the Redskins, they've been losing a lot lately, too (to say the least), but I'm happy as a Redskins fan because I know that they are TRYING to win - they just have to make the effort.
I'm a fan of a baseball team, I am NOT a source of revenue for some crusty old lawyer, and I refuse to be treated as such.
TXREDSKINS44
January-26th-2005, 03:12 PM
At one time Wayne Huizenga owned both the marlins and the dolphins!! (I think)
mad4comp
January-27th-2005, 03:01 AM
Originally posted by TXREDSKINS44
At one time Wayne Huizenga owned both the marlins and the dolphins!! (I think)
BINGO...and hes the owner of the Blockbuster chain of video stores :)
seanskins
January-27th-2005, 03:17 AM
Originally posted by RedskinsNation
No dude your wrong on this.
Jeff Lurie Owns the Iggles
Jeff Loria owns the Marlins.:cheers:
Tomato, Tomoto!!
I believe the Glazers own both the Tampa Bay Buccanneers and the Los Angeles Dodgers.
Steeler1
February-3rd-2005, 01:18 PM
Originally posted by TXREDSKINS44
At one time Wayne Huizenga owned both the marlins and the dolphins!! (I think)
He did....Huizenga bought the Dolphins after Joe Robbie's passing, and was the man who brought baseball to south florida...He wound up selling the Marlins, after the great selloff in 98 after the Marlins first championship, to John Henry, who somehow got the Red Sox in the 3 way dance that got LOR-IA (LUR-IE is a whole other person) the Marlins, and was the nail in the coffin of baseball in Montreal (good for DC) I think there are some rules about multiple ownership in the NFL and MLB...But I'm not sure what the restrictions exactly are...I'd love to see Snyder buy the Nats, See how he spends without the restriction of a salary cap (of course the "small market" owners are gonna push for a cap again. taking a page from the NHL playbook after the current Labor deal expires in '06)
bulldog
February-3rd-2005, 07:53 PM
I would rather see a Jack Kent Cooke type figure. Somebody who has made a career in business, has maturity and is ready to put his money where his mouth is in terms of hiring the best baseball people to get the Nationals to the front rank of MLB teams :)
We have spent the past 5 years watching the growing pains of a rich but initially immature owner in Snyder and I don't want to see that experience repeated. The fact the Redskins still don't have a qualified GM to work with Gibbs causes me some lingering concern re Snyder, even though his act of hiring Gibbs is enough to believe Dan has indeed come a long way.
But I wouldn't want to go back to where we were at the end of the 2000 season in a new sport, that's for sure :laugh:
triple6mafia
February-9th-2005, 09:07 PM
please do it and i'm droping the o's, you gotta...it's the beltway rivalry
iamray
February-20th-2005, 11:31 AM
I've been an O's fan for almost 40 years and while I don't particularly care for some of things they've done in the past few years - ok a decade, I'm not jumping off the ledge. I live in Manassas and I've already got some tickets for the Nats. I am going to enjoy having National League baseball accesible to me. I'll go to a few of each teams games and enjoy the differences. It's no more a rivalry than the Ravens/Redskins. Embrace the differences in the leagues, enjoy the games and have fun. You don't have to choose between them.
bulldog
February-20th-2005, 12:36 PM
unfortunately, the way in which Angelos played politics to prevent Washington from getting a baseball team is unlikely to make Washingtonians soon forget his meddling.
this area should have had a team when the leagues expanded to Tampa and Arizona, where the markets are much smaller and the ability of the teams to compete over the long term financially is much less certain.
you can point to the Ravens vs. the Redskins as AFC/NFC ball that you can separate out and watch on different channels and not necessarily root against either team, but the Redskins didn't prevent the Ravens from moving from Cleveland to Baltimore.
TheDoyler23
February-20th-2005, 01:22 PM
Originally posted by bulldog
you can point to the Ravens vs. the Redskins as AFC/NFC ball that you can separate out and watch on different channels and not necessarily root against either team, but the Redskins didn't prevent the Ravens from moving from Cleveland to Baltimore.
JKC tried to put the new Redskins stadium in Laurel, roughly 1/2 way between Washington and Baltimore.
spjunkies
February-20th-2005, 03:33 PM
Originally posted by TheDoyler23
JKC tried to put the new Redskins stadium in Laurel, roughly 1/2 way between Washington and Baltimore.
So what, Jack never came out and said a team in Baltimore would take money away from him, unlike that ***hole in Baltimore.
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