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mad4comp
March-3rd-2005, 02:31 PM
I just thought i'd make a list of things that disgust me as far as EJ's coaching goes.
-Doubleteam - When are we ever gonna stop doing this 50+ times a game. Its fine to do it like 5-6 times a game, try to get some steals, but when you do it constantly you leave someone open for a 3. And most of the time, they make it. Ever notice how someone is left wide open for a three, and there is always 1 wiz that will try to get there just to put a hand in his face, whereas when we shoot a three it is almost 100% contested.....This just sickens me. :puke:
-Pick And Roll - First of all, we cant run it properly, and secondly we cant defend against it. Everytime we try to set a Pick for someone, say hughes or Arenas, the person setting the pick roll's out too quickly leaving hughes or Arenas to get double teammed. And on the Defensive side, when everyone runs a Pick and roll against us, we gang tackle the guy doing the pick, and leave the shooter wide open, or vice versa.
-Holding a lead - Can we ever hold a lead...for just 5 mins plz ? We had a 17 point lead against Houston, only to end up being down by eight with 4 mins left. I know before Arenas said that is the position they'd like to be in, but against good teams you have to hold a lead, you cant expect to make a emphatic comeback everygame. :mad:
-Our Bigs - Is EJ obsessed with Etan or something? This guy is the most selfish player on the team, everytime he gets the ball down low he thinks he has to score, he never looks around for other players that are open. Almost everytime Etan gets the ball, there is someone open on the perimeter for a 3, yet he goes inside and gets fouled, and misses one if not both free throws. Next is Ruffin, i gotta admit this guy is the man when it comes to defense and showing heart..but that does not equal points on the court. He should only be used in crunch times like at the end of the first half and the end of the game, or if either Haywood or Kwame get in Foul trouble.
-Blake - This guy has the potential to be a 3-point machine, but when he is off...he is totally off, and still EJ doesnt opt to goto Peeler. I'm sure if you gave Peeler the same opportunities that Blake got yesterday, we woulda been up by 25+ at one point, thats how many open threes blake missed.
And after all that..if we make the playoffs (we will), EJ will be in the running for the COY......the team deserves it, not EJ.
Phew..:whew:
Alright, now that i've gotten that off my chest, its time to goto class. Peace out.
mad4comp
March-3rd-2005, 02:36 PM
Oh ya btw, time to beat up on the Warriors.
GS Warriors vs Washington Warriors :D
I hope we can contain Bdavis JRich, and DFish. And plz someone get a hand in Dunlevy's face, i will be pissed if he hits like 5+ three's.
Bugs'
March-3rd-2005, 04:22 PM
You feel better now? :laugh: Good rant and a lot of it I agree with....but I still think the good of EJ outweighs the bad and am happy with his as our coach....I think you might be bald in a few years pulling your hair out because I think he will be here for awhile....
:cheers:
Chachie
March-3rd-2005, 05:27 PM
Originally posted by Bugs'
You feel better now? :laugh: Good rant and a lot of it I agree with....but I still think the good of EJ outweighs the bad and am happy with his as our coach....I think you might be bald in a few years pulling your hair out because I think he will be here for awhile....
:cheers:
I'm with Bugs. The good SO outweighs the bad.
Also, I noticed that at the end of the Game vs. Houston, they switched to a man2man defense that "collapses" to the inside when the ball goes inside. This caused 2 steals that resulted in baskets and put us ahead. Maybe EJ and staff finally understood what we were bitching about all night. It worked like a charm and I hope they stick with it.
mad4comp
March-3rd-2005, 11:24 PM
Originally posted by Bugs'
You feel better now? :laugh: Good rant and a lot of it I agree with....but I still think the good of EJ outweighs the bad and am happy with his as our coach....I think you might be bald in a few years pulling your hair out because I think he will be here for awhile....
:cheers:
Yes i feel much better. Thank you for asking :D
I also agree that the Goods outweigh the bads...for the moment. But when we start losing because of this doubleteamming and stupid Substitutions, people are gonna start jumping on his back. I agree, for now he's doing a good job instituting a good type of offense for the types of players we have, but he has to learn to use the doubleteamming sparingly. Of all the problems we have on D, covering of the three ball is the biggest hole we have at the moment, hopefully EJ will start reading these boards more and think twice about doubleteamming 50+ times a game.
REDALERT
March-4th-2005, 02:51 AM
I totally agree about Blake. But what also burns me about blake is when he's off he keps shooting the 3. Blake is gonna have to try and take it 2 the hole a little more often when his jumper is off. Like against the rockets. The guys wasn't hitting nothing but kept shooting.
Boy! now I'm really starting to appreciate Juan Dixon coming off the bench.
Burgold
March-4th-2005, 09:20 AM
Think he's done a pretty good job holding the team together through a ton of injuries. Blake, Kwamie, Hayes, Dixon, Hughes, etc. To be where they are while constantly having to rework lineups is pretty cool. Especially, after twenty years of being... well...
Leonard Washington
March-4th-2005, 10:51 AM
good post mad4comp. i hate the wide open 3s. for the most part jordan is doing a fantastic job!
mhd24
March-4th-2005, 09:33 PM
We are winning in spite of EJ. Peeler has gotten no PT in the last month. Whenever he's played, he's played a hell of alot more consistently and effectively than Blake or Profit. Kwame has already proved he's better than Ruffin in every facet of the game. It's assanine and crazy to provide an explanation for EJ's lame coaching. I think Wizards assistant Mike O'Koren would be a much better coach.
mhd24
March-5th-2005, 10:07 AM
Here is a nugget from another message board:
When Kwame was in the game: Troy Murphy did nothing:
Troy shot 2-6, had 5 points, and 5 rebounds in 22 minutes
When Kwame was out: (and Ruffin guarded Troy)
Murphy had 15 points, 9 rebounds, and shot 4-10 in 17 minutes.
Now again, why is Kwame not playing?
To further that point, from the Posts's write-up:
The game took a turn for the worse in the third quarter. They were tied at 58 but shortly thereafter, Kwame Brown (9 points and 9 rebounds) sat and the game began to slip away. In the 16 minutes Brown sat, the Wizards were outscored, 39-26. By the time he re-entered, the game was out of reach. Asked about Brown after the game, Jordan became defensive. "Why do you ask?" Jordan said. "He didn't play well, nor did anybody else. There is nothing wrong with him."
Kwame had 9 pts (4-6 from the field, 1-4 ft's) and 9 boards (3 offensive) , an asist, a block, a steal, and 2 to's in 23 mins.
Future Hall-of-Famer Michael Ruffin had 1 point (0-2, 1-4) 4 boards (2 offensive) 0 assists or steals, a block and 2 TO's in 26 minutes. That comparison is very disheartening for me as a fan -- I can't imagine what it feels like to Kwame!
No one can defend EJ for a sheer ignorant comment like that. He has no busisness coaching an nba team if he really thinks like that.
Skins11
March-8th-2005, 10:38 AM
You touched on a point that I can't stand - the pick and roll defense! It's as if every team that runs a pick and roll against us can do it more efficiently than Stockton and Malone. It is pathetic.
On the pick and roll, we almost always end up with the bad matchup or with a bad double team that leaves someone wide open. I think if we were to play the Sixers in the playoffs, Webber and AI would tear us up with it pretty easily (even though I haven't seen them play together yet).
Please, please fix the pick and roll.......
Other than that, I am glad Antawn is getting some rest. For some reason he has been a different player than he was, oh, about 10 games ago.
mad4comp
March-8th-2005, 08:52 PM
Hey! what coincidence, the wiz are doing the same mistakes i listed here....gee who woulda thought. Someone donate a "Teaching Defense for Dummies" book to EJ, he seems dumbfounded as to how to teach defense. :/
mad4comp
March-18th-2005, 11:07 PM
Doubleteam - We still do it 90% of the time
Pick and Roll - Notice how we couldnt run it for Sh*t today?
Holding a lead - We lost a 11 point lead today..
Our Bigs - Still playing Etan and Ruffin > Brendan..
Blake - Gawd he stunk up the joint and EJ kept him in.
EJ doesnt learn..sigh, i dont think this team will ever win close games because of EJ, he is holding this team back. :/
mad4comp
March-22nd-2005, 11:27 PM
So what has EJ learnt in the past 20+ days ?? appearantly nothing because he does the same crap over and over again. I doubt EJ is ever gonna change, and i dont think hes capable of being a head coach, a good assistant, but not a head coach.
Bugs'
March-23rd-2005, 01:34 PM
Originally posted by mad4comp
So what has EJ learnt in the past 20+ days ?? appearantly nothing because he does the same crap over and over again. I doubt EJ is ever gonna change, and i dont think hes capable of being a head coach, a good assistant, but not a head coach.
I liken EJ to a second-year player....he needs a chance to grow and learn and make his mistakes....I believe that with some time and a good supporting cast around him he will make these adjustments and become a better coach. I think he is a "good" coach right now with the potential of becoming a "great" coach. Just my opinion. :)
hands11
March-24th-2005, 12:21 AM
Originally posted by Bugs'
I liken EJ to a second-year player....he needs a chance to grow and learn and make his mistakes....I believe that with some time and a good supporting cast around him he will make these adjustments and become a better coach. I think he is a "good" coach right now with the potential of becoming a "great" coach. Just my opinion. :)
I think most of us agree he has the potential. We are just wonderng out load, will he reach it.
We are just wondering, will he be a Norv, a Sperier or will he be able to make the kind of adjustment Gibb made in his first tour.
I always worry when I see a coach trying to hard to do it a cetain way. The great coaches has many ways, and they fit the way to the talent they have. That is what Karl just did in Denver. Look at the results.
Everyone talks about EJ and the Printon offense. No one that I know of has ever talked about him and his defense. That worries me. I think you need more then one way, you like, and know well to run these things.
I guess this is why I and some others are not sold yet. But we keep hoping. Hes what we have this year. I hope he gets it. If not, talent is on the way. We can out talent a lot of teams.
mad4comp
April-9th-2005, 11:24 PM
Made this thread over a month ago, and still nothing has changed. It tells me no matter how many times ej gets screwed by not playing Defense, hes still not gonna change his schemes. So where are all the EJ supporters now ?
hands11
April-9th-2005, 11:56 PM
Originally posted by Bugs'
You feel better now? :laugh: Good rant and a lot of it I agree with....but I still think the good of EJ outweighs the bad and am happy with his as our coach....I think you might be bald in a few years pulling your hair out because I think he will be here for awhile....
:cheers:
You thinking it doesnt mean its going to happen.
We have abosultly nothing to go on to know one why or another on this. I havent been able to gadge anything EG has sad or done to make me feel like he is sold on EJ or not.
Like I said before. I wouldnt put it past EG to get someone in the offseason if he can find someone he thinks is an upgrade but Im guessing the odds are EJ gets till at least mid way through next season to PROVE himself. Cuz that what he has to do. No one has bought the cow yet.
mad4comp
April-9th-2005, 11:58 PM
Originally posted by hands11
You thinking it doesnt mean its going to happen.
We have abosultly nothing to go on to know one why or another on this. I havent been able to gadge anything EG has sad or done to make me feel like he is sold on EJ or not.
Like I said before. I wouldnt put it past EG to get someone in the offseason if he can find someone he thinks is an upgrade but Im guessing the odds are EJ gets till at least mid way through next season to PROVE himself. Cuz that what he has to do. No one has bought the cow yet.
If we miss playoffs = EJ is fired
If we make playoffs and are a 1st round exit = EJ is fired
If we make playoffs and are a 2nd round exit = EJ is saved.
EJ has a tough road ahead to not getting fired lol.
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