Kwame's view on an age limit.

[Erigion]

Forward Kwame Brown, the first No. 1 pick selected straight from high school, agreed with Indiana's Jermaine O'Neal that there is no need for a 20-year-old minimum age in the NBA. "I agree with him wholeheartedly. All he was saying was, why would you stop somebody" from going pro out of high school, said Brown, who was 19 when he was drafted in 2001. "Why would you stop someone from doing what they can do. That's unconstitutional. You can't do this because you're too young? There's more guys that do well than guys that aren't. There's no reason for it. People give the analogy of guys going to fight in a war, then why can't you go play basketball? It's much less dangerous, why can't I do it?" . . .

From the Wizards Insider sidebar: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A51560-2005Apr13.html

I just had to laugh when I read this.

[CrazyZeb]

Unconstitutional? :doh:

Kwame, I think you're the poster child for an age limit.

[PapaDRoc]

Originally posted by Erigion
Forward Kwame Brown, the first No. 1 pick selected straight from high school, agreed with Indiana's Jermaine O'Neal that there is no need for a 20-year-old minimum age in the NBA. "I agree with him wholeheartedly. All he was saying was, why would you stop somebody" from going pro out of high school, said Brown, who was 19 when he was drafted in 2001. "Why would you stop someone from doing what they can do. That's unconstitutional. You can't do this because you're too young? There's more guys that do well than guys that aren't. There's no reason for it. People give the analogy of guys going to fight in a war, then why can't you go play basketball? It's much less dangerous, why can't I do it?" . . .

From the Wizards Insider sidebar: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A51560-2005Apr13.html

I just had to laugh when I read this.

Haha I laughed when I read that this afternoon too. :laugh:

[PapaDRoc]

Originally posted by CrazyZeb
Unconstitutional? :doh:

Kwame, I think you're the poster child for an age limit.


Shows what happens when your not educated, f***, I'm in high school and I know thats not unconstitutional.

[Skins11]

I guess the drinking age is unconstitutional too, right Kwame? Kwame is a true patriot, exerting his constitutional right while driving. :silly:

[Erigion]

I wonder if he puts himself if the failure category.

[Diablo23]

He was all over ESPN when they talked about the failures that made the jump from highschool to NBA. :doh:

[dahurt002]

The New Age limit would have really took the fun out of
last years rookie of the year race, huh
with No Lebron, and No Carmelo, even Carmelo went to college
and won the national title but was under the age limit so he would have had to wait an extra year to enter the NBA. Do you think he needed an extra year of college, NO could he have used An extra year of college,Yes ,but if your family leaves in the inner city of Baltimore (or any city) why wait to move your family out of poverty. And alot not all, of these high school player do live in the inner city. But your old enough to go to war and KILL somebody and not make millions to do so. I can see a double standard.
Their old enough to murder but not play a sport for FUN and make money?
I believe high school players do need to go to college but college ain't for everybody and nobody had a problem with Moses Malone out of high school so why the problem now. If you want them to go to college don't draft them out of high school.

[CrazyZeb]

Originally posted by dahurt002
The New Age limit would have really took the fun out of
last years rookie of the year race, huh
with No Lebron, and No Carmelo, even Carmelo went to college
and won the national title but was under the age limit so he would have had to wait an extra year to enter the NBA. Do you think he needed an extra year of college, NO could he have used An extra year of college,Yes ,but if your family leaves in the inner city of Baltimore (or any city) why wait to move your family out of poverty. And alot not all, of these high school player do live in the inner city. But your old enough to go to war and KILL somebody and not make millions to do so. I can see a double standard.
Their old enough to murder but not play a sport for FUN and make money?
I believe high school players do need to go to college but college ain't for everybody and nobody had a problem with Moses Malone out of high school so why the problem now. If you want them to go to college don't draft them out of high school.

Kwame, is that you?

[dahurt002]

Naw just somebody that feels that the NBA created it on problem so to correct it they should stop draphing kids out of high school.

You've got to admit the rookie of the year race last year was something special from two players under the age of 20, and look at how well they are playing this season.

[jbooma]

You guys he just repeated what O'neal said, thats it.

They are right, the NBA has no right, and either does football technically to keep people who can play at the level out. Now if everyone agrees owners and union, like the NFL then that is fine, but it won't work in the NBA.

What is he supposed to say, he can't be against it because he was one of them.

[mad4comp]

Its not about the players that make an impact upon arrival like Lebron or Carmello, its those other players you dont hear about, where do they end up after 10 years of sucking in the NBA with no College degree? Back in their mama's basement?

Its plain and simple, just goto college for 2 years, maybe try to get an associates degree so you can do something with your life if basketball aint your thing. Whenever i see these kids my age entering the NBA Draft, i really feel sorry for them because not every 18-20yr old is gonna be a Carmello or Lebron. So in the end, if they dont make it, what do they have to fall back on ? Nothing. Even if they do get like a trillion dollar contract, they have no clue how to handle money, they will probably get an accountant who will probably cheat them out of their money and they'll end up broke beggin to get into the NBDL..

Not to add, they will probably do some dumbsh*t like buy the most expensive House, Cars, etc... M.C Hammer Pt.2, Plain Dumbness..

Although i still hold out hope for Kwame, its slowly fading away. And what was that comment he made about it being Unconstitutional..... is he seriously that stupid? In that case, send his a** back to college he could use some edumacation... :)

[mad4comp]

Originally posted by jbooma
You guys he just repeated what O'neal said, thats it.

They are right, the NBA has no right, and either does football technically to keep people who can play at the level out. Now if everyone agrees owners and union, like the NFL then that is fine, but it won't work in the NBA.

What is he supposed to say, he can't be against it because he was one of them.

If he were anywhere near JO's production level, he'd have the right to talk. But being the bum that he is, he should keep his mouth shut so he doesnt make another stupid comment like "Its Unconstitutional." Or at least until he is a star.

[Gamebreaker]

I'm actually writing a research paper on this very topic. After the research I've done, Kwame is wrong when he says there are more success stories than failures. And when I say failures, I don't just mean high school players who were drafted and didn't live up to expectations (like Kwame). I'm talking about those high school players who declared and didn't get drafted until the second round or not at all.

At that point, they may not catch on to a NBA roster because contracts aren't guaranteed for second round picks and they've already ruined their chances of NCAA eligibility. It's not fair, but I also realize they should be able to play if they have already developed the talent and skills to adjust (ex. Stoudamire, Kobe, Garnett).

MY suggestion, one of the many I will use in my presentation, is for the NBA to develop a screening division for high school players. It'll be easy, yet costly. They can develop a skills challenge or test from input by current NBA coaches and GMs, which they will put the high school players through in order to be elligible to be drafted out of high school. If they fail, their eligibility won't be forfeited and they can still play college ball, this way they can still develop their games in intercollegiate sports and possibly make the league a couple of years down the road.

The judges should be easy to find, there are many old-school NBA players who are unemployed or simply doing nothing in retirement. Giving them an opportunity to do something in the league they played for would be beneficial to the NBA's image. Furthermore, this could bolster the overall talent in college basketball and eventually pump out more polished players for the NBA in a couple of years time.

O'Neal does have a point though, the one league with the most African Americans in it is the only league that is considered in need of an age limit. Something's not right with that. Also, it'll be alot cheaper for the NBA to just enforce an age limit. Yet if they REALLY want to find a solution to the problem, they'll spend a little money and come up with a real answer to the problem. Maybe not my idea, but something that'll keep the stars like Lebron entering the league while simutaneously preventing the ones who weren't ready and manipulated by agents to not lose their NCAA eligibility.

[jbooma]

Originally posted by mad4comp


If he were anywhere near JO's production level, he'd have the right to talk. But being the bum that he is, he should keep his mouth shut so he doesnt make another stupid comment like "Its Unconstitutional." Or at least until he is a star.

he was just repeating the stupid comment, he can talk because he got paid

i love how people have a problem with young kids who don't go to school and get paid, yet no one ever complains about kids who don't go to school and get paid in real life, sorry but I have a problem with that, if someone doesn't want to go to school that is there decision

i have always thought you should go to college when you want, not when you are told, then you want it more, and work harder

[dahurt002]

First of all, going to college for 2 years doesn't get you a degree, so if player is going just to get in the NBA then there is no purpose for going, you think Steve Francis and Allen Iverson, are worried about a degree? Please. And there are alot of dummies that went to college and didn't get their degrees so when their career ends what do they fall back on?

[lom8104]

The NBA is a PRIVATE organization that can do whatever the **** it wants...so all of this "they have no right" **** goes right out the window. A minimum age reqirement would be good for the NBA because it would be good for the TEAMS (which is what the NBA is comprised of). A ****ty team in the position to get a top 5 pick in the draft should be assured that they get a good player who can contribute right away so that they are no longer a ****ty team. Isn't that the purpose of the draft? Take our Wizards for example, wouldn't it have been better for them if they would have used there #1 pick on a player that had been proven in college? Bad teams shouldn't have to gamble on a high school player that could make the team better but could also be a huge bust.

[Gamebreaker]

Originally posted by jbooma

i have always thought you should go to college when you want, not when you are told, then you want it more, and work harder

I agree, some kids aren't mature enough to be successful in college right out of high school. It may be better to save your money, not waste your time, mature a little and then give it a shot.

[dahurt002]

Before You Knock these high school players for going to the league, PUT YOURSELF IN THEIR SHOES,
how many people would pass up 90 million dollars to go to college for free? I went to college and degrees don't even guarantee you a JOB. These Kids dreams are to make it in the NBA, why would they postpone that?

[Gamebreaker]

Originally posted by lom8104
The NBA is a PRIVATE organization that can do whatever the **** it wants...so all of this "they have no right" **** goes right out the window. A minimum age reqirement would be good for the NBA because it would be good for the TEAMS (which is what the NBA is comprised of). A ****ty team in the position to get a top 5 pick in the draft should be assured that they get a good player who can contribute right away so that they are no longer a ****ty team. Isn't that the purpose of the draft? Take our Wizards for example, wouldn't it have been better for them if they would have used there #1 pick on a player that had been proven in college? Bad teams shouldn't have to gamble on a high school player that could make the team better but could also be a huge bust.

The draft had "busts" way before high school players started getting drafted, so don't go there. The Wizards drafted Kwame Brown because they had a ****ty head executive who didn't take his job seriously, and refused to listen to his scoutting staff, and had his mind set on either Kwame or Chandler. Both players have been dissappointments.

The teams aren't forced to draft these players, they choose to and end up getting burned because the do a poor job of evaluating these guys before the draft. Who's fault is that?

[dahurt002]

Originally posted by lom8104
The NBA is a PRIVATE organization that can do whatever the **** it wants...so all of this "they have no right" **** goes right out the window. A minimum age reqirement would be good for the NBA because it would be good for the TEAMS (which is what the NBA is comprised of). A ****ty team in the position to get a top 5 pick in the draft should be assured that they get a good player who can contribute right away so that they are no longer a ****ty team. Isn't that the purpose of the draft? Take our Wizards for example, wouldn't it have been better for them if they would have used there #1 pick on a player that had been proven in college? Bad teams shouldn't have to gamble on a high school player that could make the team better but could also be a huge bust.


What about Lebron, Carmelo both played better than Dwanye Wade. Who would you Pick?
The Entire NBA draft is a gamble, Jordan wasn't the first pick in his draft. Every year it's a gamble, everybody from college ain't proven in the NBA so it doesn't matter.

[Gamebreaker]

I actually thought Wade outplayed both Lebron and Carmelo in their rookie seasons. Yet Lebron may end up having the better career when it's all said and done.

[dahurt002]

Myself I liked Carmelo,

[boobiemiles]

I always beleive that the players that are good enough to play in the NBA should play in the NBA. But the real problemis not the NBA but the NCAA IMHO. The NCAA should pay the students athletes, but nobody is talking about that. I felt a good formula to do so is pay a percentage of what you make at the gate and merchandising to the student athlete. That way you can determine which school is 1A, 1AA, and so on. If a school makes this amount of money at the gate and from merchandising, then they are 1A and pay accordingly, and so forth. That would stop some of the marginal players from declaring for the NBA. It's the marginal player that this arguement concerns. Eddy Curry, Stods, Lebron, KG, and Kobe to name of few are shoe ins to go early to the NBA. The rest need a year, but it's hard to pass up money, whether you're from the inner city, suburbs, or wherever.

[Fatty P For The Pulitzer]

Originally posted by Gamebreaker
I'm actually writing a research paper on this very topic. After the research I've done, Kwame is wrong when he says there are more success stories than failures. And when I say failures, I don't just mean high school players who were drafted and didn't live up to expectations (like Kwame). I'm talking about those high school players who declared and didn't get drafted until the second round or not at all....

I definitely agree with your post Gamebreaker. That was an assinine thing for Kwame to say because just the number of high school kids who declared the last 5 years and weren't even drafted probably doubles the number of high school to pro successes in league history. And I like your idea of some kind of screening process. High school players are hard to get a gauge on. Kwame dominated in high school in GA, but wasn't playing against top talent, he was only in the 2nd or 3rd highest public school division. He was playing against guys who were 6'6" to 6'8". They should definitely be able to develop a screening system to determine which high schoolers have a good chance of being good players within 2 years or so, and which ones only have the potential to be good and need a lot of work to get there. The drafting for future potential is the fad they need to move away from, and they don't really need to impose an age limit to do that. What the NBA should also do is get a lot more serious about the NBADL being a true minor league system, that way the young players who have the talent, but aren't ready yet and who don't want to go to college, can go play there and have a realistic shot of earning their way into the league. This way the LeBrons and Carmelos and Amares and the others who are clearly ready to play right away will still be lottery picks, and the Kwames and Chandlers and Darkos who have the potential, but still need to develop, can play in a legit league, get paid (obviously not the millions they want, but better than nothing), and don't have to go to school. Thus, the teams picking first will actually get someone who can help right away and not worry about missing the next TMac or J O'Neal (guys who need a few years to develop before becoming stars).

[Renegade7]

What they should do now is ban anybody NEW under the age the age limit from coming in. Once all the players now in the league under the age limit (ie Lebron James) are over the age limit, ban anybody and everybody under the age limit. A lot of high schoolers are coming into the league with no college education. Too many. If they don't make it, that's it for them. Is it really basketball and that's it?

[Fatty P For The Pulitzer]

Originally posted by boobiemiles
The NCAA should pay the students athletes, but nobody is talking about that. I felt a good formula to do so is pay a percentage of what you make at the gate and merchandising to the student athlete. That way you can determine which school is 1A, 1AA, and so on. If a school makes this amount of money at the gate and from merchandising, then they are 1A and pay accordingly, and so forth.

That wouldn't really help that much though. The NCAA has to enforce a minimum standard when it comes to academics, and if they paid players, the grades would plummet. Most of these kids are going to spend the money as soon as they get it on things like cars, jewelry, etc., and will care less about the academics. Then, some of these players will be suspended because of their grades, lose their stipends, and just leave for the NBA. But if they did decide to pay the athletes, they would have to have profit-sharing between all the 1-A schools and all the 1-AA schools and so forth. Teams with bigger arenas and who sell more merchandise would have a major recruiting advantage over smaller schools or even schools with tiny arenas like Duke. Over the last several years, we've seen mid-majors have good success because they are able to pull in players who are good enough to play at the big schools, but want to go somewhere to play right away and be the star player. If schools can pay their players based on how much that team pulls in and not a standard amount, then the smaller schools won't be able to pull in the good players anymore. Would you prefer to get paid x amount and play right away at a mid-major, or get paid 2x or 3x and sit for two years before you get a shot to play at a major program?

[Waleo32]

I would prefer the NBA to have a age limit because that would make college basketball better talent wise. The NBA is doing this not because of high school players not being successful that's B.S. The NBA and College Basketball has a secret alliance, that's my opinion. College Basketball is suffering from High School Mcdonald stars leaving to go pro. Also I'm sick of dumb players like Jermaine O'neal arguing the situation poorly. I understand where he's coming from. Yeah it's hard to tell a 18 year old kid who's not interest in College at all to say, well kid go to school. College ain't for everyone, but don't bring up this crap about High School kids are ready because that's bogus. L. James, Moses Malone, and Stoudemire. That's it. It took K G about 3 years, Kobe about 2-3 years (having Shaq makes it easier) McGrady 3-4 close to becoming a bust. The list goes on and on. People don't want to wait for a player to progress. The NBA is more patient for with a High School player. Prime example Reece Gaines was the truth in Louisville, he was way better than Garcia. But after 2 years he's getting cut. Troy Bell was like that in BC but now he is gone from the NBA. Look at Kwame Brown (who I do think has potential, and I do like) hasn't lived up to it but he's still in the league (M. Jordan and Collins F'd Kwame's Career). High School kids have a longer string. I'm black but race has nothing to do with the NBA trying to get a age limit with the draft. The only racial differents is if you compare the sport to Baseball. Whom has high school kids go pro regularly, but they have a minor league system so they are getting ready to play the pro game.

[mad4comp]

Originally posted by dahurt002
First of all, going to college for 2 years doesn't get you a degree, so if player is going just to get in the NBA then there is no purpose for going, you think Steve Francis and Allen Iverson, are worried about a degree? Please. And there are alot of dummies that went to college and didn't get their degrees so when their career ends what do they fall back on?

First of all, who says you cant get an associates degree in 2 years?

Both Iverson and Francis went to college, so thats not such a good analogy, might wanna think of another one. Plus, how many Iverson's and Francis's are churned out every year?

Third, its more about the learning process, than it is about the degree itself. Most of these Highschoolers are dumb as a door nail, which is backed by the dumb***** statement Kwame just made about it being Unconstitutional, okay Kwame you moron nice one.

[boobiemiles]

I hear what you're saying Fatts. I know private institutions would have a harder time trying to lure blue chippers. There would have to be a form of profit sharing for those schools. But a school like Duke has a big enough student body, and alumini to be considered a 1A school. A form of profit sharing would have to exsist for a school that falls in the catergory of Duke, for instace Notre Dame etc. But state school like UCONN, USC, Penn State and so on, get tax subsidies from the state. Rowland gave Uconn huge amounts of tax money to built a new football stadium, a nicer campus and so forth. Plus Uconn makes money from merchandising and the huge draw at the gate. Most of your top Division 1 school are state schools when you come to think about it. They get paid double time, but don't give any of it back to the student athlete. That's not fair. IMHO saying a college education is equivalent to the money the school makes from sports is ridiculous. Duke has a small facilitiy because it's a smaller school that must depend on it's alumni, and student body to built facilities like the one Uconn has. The NCAA on a whole has to do something to fix themsleves, inturn this would fix the problem with the NBA and NFL. These kids need money. I don't think that money is the root of evil that will make the student athlet stop caring about academics. I think it would have the opposite effect. It would drive me crazy to know the school is making money from my skills, the same skills I can get paid for, but I'm pressured to stay in school or take the risk of being a bust in the NBA. That would stop me from concentrating of getting my term papers done.

[tundey]

How many of these high school kids make an impact in their first 2 years in the NBA? Not very many. Go to college or the developmental league. Who wants to pay millions of dollars to watch a player sit on the bench?

[mad4comp]

Originally posted by jbooma


he was just repeating the stupid comment, he can talk because he got paid

i love how people have a problem with young kids who don't go to school and get paid, yet no one ever complains about kids who don't go to school and get paid in real life, sorry but I have a problem with that, if someone doesn't want to go to school that is there decision

i have always thought you should go to college when you want, not when you are told, then you want it more, and work harder

He repeated the dumb comment as well as added his own dumb statement to the end, totally unnecessary.

Why do you think all these High schoolers are stuck up a**wipes? Because they have no clue what hard work is, that carries on over to the basketball court. Of course once in a while your gonna have your Garnett's, but otherwise, what happens to bums like Kwame Brown?

BTW with the way JO is talking, you'd think he made a sudden impact on the league his first game...WRONG, but imagine if he had went to college and matured for 4 years instead of being a useless tool sitting on Portlands bench. He would have come into the league and made an immediate impact, instead of riding the bench for so long and with everyone waiting for him to mature.

[Fatty P For The Pulitzer]

Originally posted by Waleo32
The only racial differents is if you compare the sport to Baseball. Whom has high school kids go pro regularly, but they have a minor league system so they are getting ready to play the pro game.

That's a great point. Baseball players are drafted years before they are ready to compete and are put in the minors, many of which never crack a college textbook. The NBA needs to reorganize the NBADL, imho, and assign a team in it to each NBA team and make it a truly minor league. Then add another 2 rounds or so to the draft. That way you can draft players early who will help you right away, and then the younger players who don't want college but need more work in the later rounds and put them on your DL team.

[Fatty P For The Pulitzer]

Originally posted by mad4comp

BTW with the way JO is talking, you'd think he made a sudden impact on the league his first game...WRONG, but imagine if he had went to college and matured for 4 years instead of being a useless tool sitting on Portlands bench. He would have come into the league and made an immediate impact, instead of riding the bench for so long and with everyone waiting for him to mature.

Yeah, but O'Neal got paid millions to ride the bench, so it's all good to him. But he's too dumb to realize he is the poster boy for the NBA's campaign to impose the age limit. Why should the NBA spend millions on this guy to sit on the bench for 4 years until he develops when he could go to college and play for 2 to 3 years and be ready to enter in, and it wouldn't cost the NBA a dime? However, imposing the age limit isn't the answer because Portland was not forced to take O'Neal and because it keeps the LeBrons and Carmelos, who are ready, out. The NBA got themselves in this mess by shifting away from drafting for immediate help to drafting for the best player 5 years from now.

[jbooma]

Originally posted by mad4comp


He repeated the dumb comment as well as added his own dumb statement to the end, totally unnecessary.

Why do you think all these High schoolers are stuck up a**wipes? Because they have no clue what hard work is, that carries on over to the basketball court. Of course once in a while your gonna have your Garnett's, but otherwise, what happens to bums like Kwame Brown?

BTW with the way JO is talking, you'd think he made a sudden impact on the league his first game...WRONG, but imagine if he had went to college and matured for 4 years instead of being a useless tool sitting on Portlands bench. He would have come into the league and made an immediate impact, instead of riding the bench for so long and with everyone waiting for him to mature.

Didn't Kwame graduate with honors, oh you you think he is dumb :doh:

[TheSteve]

Some of you are miseducated and spouting off ignorant blather that makes you look every bit the fool as Kwame Brown.

Jermaine O'Neal rarely saw the court because that Portland team was LOADED with veteran talent at the power positions. When they drafted him they drafted him to be a PROJECT. He was not intended to come in right away and contribute. They knew he would need time to develop. That's a bit different than drafting Kwame Brown and seeing no growth and development over the years. O'Neal was traded because Portland had nowhere to play him, not because they had given up on him or because he didnt pan out. They had so much talent at the PF/C position and veteran talent at that, that they didnt need him anymore.

Let me ask you something, do you improve more in college, or do you improve and learn more about basketball if your on a team like Portland and you play against all pros everyday in practice? There's a reason O'Neal wasn't a bust, and that's because of the situation he was in.

Kwame's situation was handled wrongly from the beginning. Jordan messed it up, Collins messed it up, Kwame messed it up. Besides, Kwame has an ordinary last name. Name me the stars in this league who have regular everyday names, you can count them on one hand.:D

[TheSteve]

Originally posted by Fatty P For The Pulitzer


That's a great point. Baseball players are drafted years before they are ready to compete and are put in the minors, many of which never crack a college textbook. The NBA needs to reorganize the NBADL, imho, and assign a team in it to each NBA team and make it a truly minor league. Then add another 2 rounds or so to the draft. That way you can draft players early who will help you right away, and then the younger players who don't want college but need more work in the later rounds and put them on your DL team.

The NBDL will never be a minor league system that is effective. All you're doing is having a bunch of prospects playing against each other. There's no garuntee if they spend 3 years in the NBDL and come up to the pro's that they'll be ready. They could still be abust and teams could still waste years on them when they get up to the NBA level.

[spiral]

I'm no Kwame fan,but clearly this is age discrimination.

[Bucaro]

Both other leagues that don't have an age limit have farm systems: Hockey and Baseball. That is the difference. When O'Neil made that reference that was the first thing I thought of

[Gamebreaker]

Originally posted by Bucaro
Both other leagues that don't have an age limit have farm systems: Hockey and Baseball. That is the difference. When O'Neil made that reference that was the first thing I thought of

The NBA has multiple farm systems. They use the European leagues, and some over here. Damone Brown came to us from one such league.

[Gamebreaker]

High School players who aren't ready benefit more from college than sitting on the bench during games and playing aganist pros in practice for two reasons.

1) NBA Coaches don't like to teach, well, most don't. The expect the pro players to know the pro game, it's a different mentality. That is why there are good college coaches and good pro coaches. College coaches move up to the NBA and they can't make a connection to their players because they are used to instructing and teach fundamentals, and the players feel like their being lectured about things they've already learned. NBA coaches don't t do this as much, so when a high school kid comes in and isn't as developed as the rest of the team. The frustration begins to grow in the coach, players, and front office. A prime example of that is Kwame.

2) The NBA can be a confidence killer if you aren't enjoying any type of success. Alot of players don't mentally recover from getting their ass handed to them everyday and practice, then come to practice each and every day with the same will to learn and improve. Going to college, learning from their coaches, and enjoying immediate success is easier on the players' learning process.

There should be a screeening process. Something that will allow these players a chance at the NBA, and if they fail, still enables them to go to college and develop their game.

[Chachie]

I agree with Kwame.

[BruinSkin]

Judicially speaking, it's going to be hard for the NBA to institute an age limit since they opened the floodgates by allowing them to jump into the draft straight out of high school.

The people on this thread that talk about the unimportance of education seem like the ones who need it most, judging from some of the grammar and spelling I've seen.

Oh and Kwame, exactly which Amendment were you referring to?

[TheSteve]

Originally posted by Gamebreaker

2) The NBA can be a confidence killer if you aren't enjoying any type of success. Alot of players don't mentally recover from getting their ass handed to them everyday and practice, then come to practice each and every day with the same will to learn and improve

Last I heard, that was called Life!

[Gamebreaker]

Originally posted by TheSteve


Last I heard, that was called Life!

Everything is life, what is your point? :rolleyes:

[TheSteve]

Originally posted by Gamebreaker


Everything is life, what is your point? :rolleyes:

Since when is it society's or the NBA's job to restrict players from coming into the NBA for their own psychological protection?

[Gamebreaker]

Originally posted by TheSteve


Since when is it society's or the NBA's job to restrict players from coming into the NBA for their own psychological protection?

You completely missed the point. :doh:

I'm not suggesting any of these players are going to commit suicide or anything. But a great deal of how they play, and how they approach training deals with their confidence level. Some people simply respond better when their developing and seeing the immediate results of this success, and not the slow process which can come from a NBA team.

Regardless, actually having people around you who have the patience to teach these players the fundamentals and most importantly, the TIME to do it is a better situation for any player considering the draft.

[PCRoughrider]

Kwame would be worlds better if he'd spent two years in college.

[REDALERT]

Originally posted by Gamebreaker


Everything is life, what is your point? :rolleyes:



Well, life's a ball, atleast it's suppose to be. When your joyous, happy and free. So let's go grab a ball and enjoy life:rolleyes: