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So Chuck Liddell vs. Keith Jardine is not deserving of main event status. This is very true and I couldn’t be more disappointed that Chuck is not fighting Wanderlei Silva, which is every MMA fans dream match-up. None the less, Jardine is going to step into the middle of the octagon and bang with Liddell. There is going to be a first round knockout and probably a high-light reel of big punches and serious action. While Chuck should be facing stiffer competition, I do believe the fight will be entertaining.
What I like about the UFC is that since the fight is being looked upon as a low quality main attraction, they are padding the card to make up for it. Rumored fights on the same card are as follows:
Mauricio “Shogun” Rua is making his UFC debut against Forrest Griffin—the fight will be exciting. I love Shogun and think he is the best light heavyweight in the world right now. Griffin always comes to fight and enjoys putting on a good show for the fans. This fight will have fireworks from the outset and think it is a good tune-up fight against a solid competitor for Shogun.
Diego Sanchez vs. Jon Fitch—after an extremely disappointing and lack luster fight, Sanchez needs to redeem himself. I am a big advocate of Sanchez but was astounded by his tentative and boring fight against Josh Koscheck. He has his work cut out for him because Fitch is another up and coming fighter similar to Sanchez himself. He is looking to make a name for himself and would propel himself into title contention by beating Sanchez. Both of these fighters have something to prove and Sanchez has a lot on the line which should make for an exciting fight.
Light heavyweight Jason Lambert, lightweight Tyson Griffin, and former middleweight champion Evan Tanner are also rumored to be on the card. All three fighters are extremely fun to watch and often have fight of the night caliber matches. Griffin is young and flashy but I love his style and the way he fights. Despite not having the huge main-event attraction that fans have become accustomed to, the UFC has put together a well rounded card from top to bottom and it should be well-worth the money.
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Originally Posted by tkatz
So Chuck Liddell vs. Keith Jardine is not deserving of main event status. This is very true and I couldn’t be more disappointed that Chuck is not fighting Wanderlei Silva, which is every MMA fans dream match-up. None the less, Jardine is going to step into the middle of the octagon and bang with Liddell. There is going to be a first round knockout and probably a high-light reel of big punches and serious action. While Chuck should be facing stiffer competition, I do believe the fight will be entertaining.
What I like about the UFC is that since the fight is being looked upon as a low quality main attraction, they are padding the card to make up for it. Rumored fights on the same card are as follows:
Mauricio “Shogun” Rua is making his UFC debut against Forrest Griffin—the fight will be exciting. I love Shogun and think he is the best light heavyweight in the world right now. Griffin always comes to fight and enjoys putting on a good show for the fans. This fight will have fireworks from the outset and think it is a good tune-up fight against a solid competitor for Shogun.
Diego Sanchez vs. Jon Fitch—after an extremely disappointing and lack luster fight, Sanchez needs to redeem himself. I am a big advocate of Sanchez but was astounded by his tentative and boring fight against Josh Koscheck. He has his work cut out for him because Fitch is another up and coming fighter similar to Sanchez himself. He is looking to make a name for himself and would propel himself into title contention by beating Sanchez. Both of these fighters have something to prove and Sanchez has a lot on the line which should make for an exciting fight.
Light heavyweight Jason Lambert, lightweight Tyson Griffin, and former middleweight champion Evan Tanner are also rumored to be on the card. All three fighters are extremely fun to watch and often have fight of the night caliber matches. Griffin is young and flashy but I love his style and the way he fights. Despite not having the huge main-event attraction that fans have become accustomed to, the UFC has put together a well rounded card from top to bottom and it should be well-worth the money.
i don't see this card being worth the money. Liddell and Shogun's matches will be entirely one sided. Neither Forrest or Jardine are anywhere near the levels of the guys they are facing.
Sanchez vs. Fitch will be good if Sanchez remembers to actually fight.
Tyson Griffin is always good for an exciting fight.
this card is the type i'll find on a stream, but won't pay for.
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http://www.mmaweekly.com/absolutenm/...4395&zoneid=13
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The stable of fighters now in official free agency after the Zuffa buyout of Pride continues to grow on almost a daily basis and one of the most sought after light heavyweight prizes on the market, Rameau Thierry Sokoudjou, will not be signing with Elite XC as many had thought going into the Shamrock/Baroni Elite XC produced pay-per-view that took place last month.
According to Elite XC president, Gary Shaw, the deal was basically done as of that event but now Sokoudjou will not be coming to Elite XC. Shaw said,"We thought we had Sokoudjou signed and he pulled a 180 on us. So, at this time, he is off the table with EliteXC."
Apparently, Elite XC brought Sokoudjou in as a special guest for that event and was treated as such before, during and after the show but then according to Shaw, the fighter pulled out of the deal when another offer came across the table.
i hope he ends up in the UFC, only 23 years old and already holds KO wins over Lil Nog and Arona. Unlimited potential in this kid.
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i don't see this card being worth the money. Liddell and Shogun's matches will be entirely one sided. Neither Forrest or Jardine are anywhere near the levels of the guys they are facing.
Could not agree more.
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Definitely agree...And he's a judo gold medalist, I believe. Watch out Karo! (I know, different weight class)
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Definitely agree...And he's a judo gold medalist, I believe. Watch out Karo! (I know, different weight class)
theres a youtube clip of Karo and Sokodjou competing against each other in a Judo match from a few years back. Karo beat him despite the weight disadvantage, goes to show how great Karo's judo is.
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theres a youtube clip of Karo and Sokodjou competing against each other in a Judo match from a few years back. Karo beat him despite the weight disadvantage, goes to show how great Karo's judo is.
Yeah, I saw that a while back. Honestly, that was a VERY close match. Also, Karo had a decent number of years on Soku. I'm of course not trying to take anything away from Karo. He and Bj are the two most exciting fighters in the UFC, IMO. Both have records that are less than stellar, but for some reason I can't help but feel they both deserve to be top 3 in their respective weight classes (well, BJ should be #1 in LW and WW).
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Yeah, I saw that a while back. Honestly, that was a VERY close match. Also, Karo had a decent number of years on Soku. I'm of course not trying to take anything away from Karo. He and Bj are the two most exciting fighters in the UFC, IMO. Both have records that are less than stellar, but for some reason I can't help but feel they both deserve to be top 3 in their respective weight classes (well, BJ should be #1 in LW and WW).
BJ may be the most talented LW in the world right now, but i can't rank him #1 because rankings imo, rankings should be based on accomplishments and not talent. At LW BJ hasn't done much in a very long time except beat a past his prime Jens Pulver
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BJ may be the most talented LW in the world right now, but i can't rank him #1 because rankings imo, rankings should be based on accomplishments and not talent. At LW BJ hasn't done much in a very long time except beat a past his prime Jens Pulver
I'm not ranking him #1. I'm saying that with the skill he has, he should be #1, not that he deserves to be ranked there. I just think he is the most talented P4P fighter in MMA, save for possibly Fedor.....And if he had Fedor's work ethic, I think he'd be the best P4P fighter.
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I'm not ranking him #1. I'm saying that with the skill he has, he should be #1, not that he deserves to be ranked there. I just think he is the most talented P4P fighter in MMA, save for possibly Fedor.....And if he had Fedor's work ethic, I think he'd be the best P4P fighter.
i agree, BJ's biggest problem is that he relies on his talent too much and doesn't come in the best condition in some of his fights. if he ever gets that under control he'd be damn near unstoppable.
on another note anyone know where Shinya Aoki is goin to sign?
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i don't see this card being worth the money. Liddell and Shogun's matches will be entirely one sided. Neither Forrest or Jardine are anywhere near the levels of the guys they are facing.
Skill and talent wise, Rua and Liddell are above and beyond, far superior fighters then the opponents they will be facing. What I do believe though, is that styles make fights.
Both Griffin and Jardine are exciting fighters. While they are not the best in their divisions, they put on good shows and good fights. They want to give the fans what they want and there is only one speed with these two, 100% straight ahead.
Based on the fact that both these guys enjoy a good slugfest, I think fans will be in store for two great action-packed fights regardless of whether or not it will be a blow out. Both fights should result in a knockout and I think any true UFC fan can appreciate that.
Those two fights will be action packed and Fitch vs. Sanchez has major title implications and features two rising stars in the UFC. I think the card will answer a lot of questions and will have a serious affect on the title scene in the UFc.
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Skill and talent wise, Rua and Liddell are above and beyond, far superior fighters then the opponents they will be facing. What I do believe though, is that styles make fights.
Both Griffin and Jardine are exciting fighters. While they are not the best in their divisions, they put on good shows and good fights. They want to give the fans what they want and there is only one speed with these two, 100% straight ahead.
Based on the fact that both these guys enjoy a good slugfest, I think fans will be in store for two great action-packed fights regardless of whether or not it will be a blow out. Both fights should result in a knockout and I think any true UFC fan can appreciate that.
Those two fights will be action packed and Fitch vs. Sanchez has major title implications and features two rising stars in the UFC. I think the card will answer a lot of questions and will have a serious affect on the title scene in the UFc.
I agree. While it's true that I am disappointed that we won't be seeing Wandy vs. Chuck, this PPV will still be very exciting.
There's no way that the Chuck or Shogun matches will be boring, even if both end in a 1st round KO, there will be plenty of fireworks as all of these guys are dominant strikers.
I mean, I'd much rather watch a PPV full of big-time strikers than grapplers rolling around the octagon for the duration of matches. I know a lot of people like watching grapplers but personally, I like seeing big kicks and punches and matches ending in (T)KOs.
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I agree. While it's true that I am disappointed that we won't be seeing Wandy vs. Chuck, this PPV will still be very exciting.
There's no way that the Chuck or Shogun matches will be boring, even if both end in a 1st round KO, there will be plenty of fireworks as all of these guys are dominant strikers.
I mean, I'd much rather watch a PPV full of big-time strikers than grapplers rolling around the octagon for the duration of matches. I know a lot of people like watching grapplers but personally, I like seeing big kicks and punches and matches ending in (T)KOs.
i prefer grappling to striking when the two competitors are at a high level. seeing two world class bjj is pretty interesting, like a physical human chess match.
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i prefer grappling to striking when the two competitors are at a high level. seeing two world class bjj is pretty interesting, like a physical human chess match.
I agree, a good BJJ match is a physical chess match but you could make the same argument for two dominate Muay Thai fighters. It all comes down to preference I guess. I think my dream match would be a good combination of the two, but I think it's fair to say that most MMA fans fall in once of those two categories, fans of great striking matches or fans of great grappling matches.
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Great grapplers and Brazilian jiu jitsu practioners are a joy to watch. The skill and intricacies involved make for chess like fights, in which the first person to make a mistake is usually the one who loses. While I respect and admire the skill, discipline, and talent that goes into these types of techniques I find myself drawn more to Muay Thai fighters and strikers. Watching guys like Anderson Silva, Shogun Rua, and Wanderlei Silva keep me on the edge of my seat and exemplify the pinnacle of excitement.
At the same time watching phenomenal flexibility, take down defenses, and submissions from the likes of Bj Penn, Royce Gracie, and Minotaro Nogueria is what originally got me involved in MMA. Because the sport encompasses striking, grappling, BJJ, and other mixed martial arts is what makes it so brilliant and mesmerizing.
