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This thread has gotten really funny/ridiculous
Blatche an asset??
Blatche-Young for a lottery pick...haha
Cam Long drafted...haha
calling someone a poor man's Sullinger???? sullinger is a broke mother ****er himself!!!!!
taking Kanter over Williams.... hilarious
Terrance Jones over Perry Jones....really?????
Agreed I could very well see him on a team like Boston or somewhere like that who wants a guy who can come off the bench and run the point for the starter.Quote:
Originally Posted by Warhead36
I assume your mildly insulting tone was directed at me. Blatche and Young for a lottery pick sounds ridiculous? More so than taking on a bad contract plus Mo Williams and Jamario Moon for a lottery pick?Quote:
Originally Posted by Gator Bait
Sullinger is a terrific player.Quote:
calling someone a poor man's Sullinger???? sullinger is a broke mother ****er himself!!!!!
If Kanter's knees check out, I'd do it. Where does a 6'8 power forward who doesn't rebound well fit on this team?Quote:
taking Kanter over Williams.... hilarious
Why not? Your boy Perry Jones was pretty much a chump this year and his teams have never been worth a damn. At least Terrence Jones was actually good and his team is winning.Quote:
Terrance Jones over Perry Jones....really?????
BTW, it's nice to see you changed your tune on Harrison Barnes. Remember our discussions from earlier? Yeah. I was right and you were wrong. Let's say it aloud together everyone. Stevemcqueen = 1, Gatorbait = 0. :bow:
Nbadraft.net has Cam Long going in the middle of the 2nd. So that's where that's coming from. Haven't seen enough of him to say one way or the other. But I think it's the first time I've seen a Mason player in a mock so that's cool.
Blatche is a cancer and at this point he is a bad contract; Nick Young has had one good year and it was still somewhat inconsistent (and it was a contract year) so yeah....no one is trading a lottery pick for these two unless we take a terrible contract back.Quote:
Originally Posted by stevemcqueen1
Mo Williams is a former All-Star who has proven he is a starter year after year...and LA got rid of a terrible contract....so these two scenarios are completely different.
Not that I agree w/ the Clipper's decision, but it is much different than Blatche-Young.
Sullinger has zero athleticism; he benefited by playing in a pretty weak conference and wouldn't even get his team to the elite 8. I think he is stupidly overrated. He will not be able to dominate players in the NBA...and please don't make the Kevin Love comparison because Kevin's basketball IQ explodes through the roof...I'm not calling Sullinger stupid, but he is no Kevin Love.Quote:
Sullinger is a terrific player.
Williams is hands down the #1 overall pick in the draft. He does everything well....good shooter from inside and out. he is pretty much an Antawn Jamison who can play defense (which was really the only problem I had w/ Jamison...his lack of defense). The man shot 60% from three this year...that is ridiculous. Kanter didn't even play this year and I wouldn't touch anyone with history of Knee problems before they get to the NBA (See Brandon Roy)Quote:
If Kanter's knees check out, I'd do it. Where does a 6'8 power forward who doesn't rebound well fit on this team?
Terrence Jones is on a much better team ....I believe they had the #1 recruiting class the past two years...if not, damn close. Perry Jones has the highest upside of any other player in the draft. In a weak year like this year, I'd rather take the guy with a high ceiling rather than settling for ball hog shot jacking Terrence Jones....he is a selfish player...I don't want him.Quote:
Why not? Your boy Perry Jones was pretty much a chump this year and his teams have never been worth a damn. At least Terrence Jones was actually good and his team is winning.
I never really supported or trashed Barnes from what I can remember. He flat out didn't show up in the earlier part of the season...so yeah....I probably wasn't on his bandwagon, but I can't believe you are actually trying to make a "stevemcqueen - 1 Gatorbait - 0 claim......Quote:
BTW, it's nice to see you changed your tune on Harrison Barnes. Remember our discussions from earlier? Yeah. I was right and you were wrong. Let's say it aloud together everyone. Stevemcqueen = 1, Gatorbait = 0
you definitely lead the thread in stupid comments....the majority of the time I'm pretty sure you are typing out your ass. .....still can't believe you called Blatche an asset. I'll admit...I was on the Blatche wagon for WAAYYYYYY too long....but at least I hopped out at the end and didn't go off the cliff.
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NBAdraft.net also has the Wizards taking (count them) three guards in the draft.....so I don't put much stock into their opinion.Quote:
Originally Posted by G.A.C.O.L.B.
Cam isn't very athletic (from an NBA perspective) and his ball handling skills aren't good enough to be a back up PG in the NBA. Cam does a lot well and had a good year for Mason, but he disappeared in the tournaments when it mattered...that kills any chance of him cracking the draft in my opinion.
I wouldn't mind bringing him in for a try out after the draft, but I definitely wouldn't waste a draft pick on him.
....that being said, I hope Cam proves me wrong, because I'm a big fan.
---------- Post added March-27th-2011 at 06:07 PM ----------
Yeah...I just went back and looked....I said nothing negative about Harrison Barnes.....I criticized your logic in comparing the minutes played and points per game between Jones and Barnes to justify Barnes being better.
I really hate it when people use stats and box scores to fully justify if a player is better than another...you have got to watch the games. Stats can be used to compare sometimes .....especially when looking at +/- and shooting efficiency....although with shooting efficiency you have to consider how many of a players shots are layups opposed to mid-range shots. If someone looked at Rondo's box scores, they would think he is a good shooter when he is really terrible.....he just knows he is terrible, so he doesn't shoot a whole lot of shots that aren't layups.
I did, however, say that perry Jones was a lock for #1 earlier in the year (which will likely not happen) and I also said that Kimba wouldn't be a lottery pick (which is also likely wrong).....so I'll take shots at myself for that.
Pick Barnes/Williams with first pick. Second pick (#19 from Atlanta) we should pick KENNETH FARIED.
I'm with you on all your picks...but don't you think Faried would be available in the second round?Quote:
Originally Posted by B.Lloyd
I've got a bunch of guys picked out that I'd love to have with that second round pick: Chris Singleton, Nolan Smith, and Jujuan johnson.
I'd like to get David Lighty in the second round as well. There will be lots of value between 17-35
The thing with nbadraft.net is that their mock really isn't a mock. It's like a player ranking. They just put teams up to show where they are slated to draft (pre-lottery).Quote:
Originally Posted by Gator Bait
draftexpress.com (the one I actually respect) definitely doesn't have Long in their mock though.
http://www.draftexpress.com/nba-mock-draft/2011/
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For those of us looking for high character guys, I love this interview with Barnes about his early season struggles. Very nice difference from Blatche's "Oh I'm hurt, they're just haters, I'm not not a low post player, what do they want from me?" bull****. Plus a nice strengths vs weaknesses vid at the end. He looks like an excellent defender:
http://www.draftexpress.com/article/...n-Barnes-3648/
I think Faried will go higher than some would think. Right now he is a top 20 prospect according to Chad Ford and could be a nice player in the front court for us. Some people have gone to the length of saying he is a Dennis Rodman-esque type of player. Obviously, we already have a player that is undersized and plays good hard defense (Booker), but I think Faried is great value for a player at the 19 spot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gator Bait
As for the first pick, no matter what, you take the player who is the best all-around player, and can be a star. I wouldn't go for the player that can fulfill a hole in the front court because that player may not have as much quality as someone that plays a backcourt position. I just hope this team continues to lose so we get a higher pick lol.
As for Lighty, I really like that idea. Lighty is a very good three point shooter and the Wizards don't have a bonafide, established marksman on their roster at this point.
It will be interesting to see how this offseason goes. I just wish they could have shipped out Howard for a draft pick. We need as much youth as we can get.
McGee with 17pts & 10rebs and its not even halftime yet
if we played Golden State every night, our McGee issues would be cured :ols:
So you'd take Irving with our top pick if he's BPA on our board?Quote:
Originally Posted by B.Lloyd
Let me re-phrase, I would take the best all-around player to a position that does not have a potential superstar already occupying it! Irving is nice though and if we were to get the top pick it would be great to tangle that pick as trade bait and get a lot in return for a team desperate for a point guard.Quote:
Originally Posted by G.A.C.O.L.B.
I would love it if were to:Quote:
Originally Posted by G.A.C.O.L.B.
get the 2nd or 3rd pick
draft Irving
trade him to somebody at 4 or 5 for their first this year & next season's 1st as well
Some people think that Irving and Wall can play together. Which is an interesting idea. And I wonder, if Irving is by far the best player in the draft, the only franchise player and you have the #1 pick and no legitimate trade offers, what do you do?Quote:
Originally Posted by B.Lloyd
Yi is just terrible at defense. Its amazing how a 7 footer can provide zero pressure on defense.