Yeah.. I am aware of that. I'm just afraid of him eventually getting injured because of the minutes after watching the same thing happen to butler and Jamison.Quote:
Originally Posted by SiCkSoULjA
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Yeah.. I am aware of that. I'm just afraid of him eventually getting injured because of the minutes after watching the same thing happen to butler and Jamison.Quote:
Originally Posted by SiCkSoULjA
Some of you guys just have WAY too much hope and expectations for a mid 1st round pick. McGee is what he is and was picked where he was because he wasn't that good. I'm afraid, what you see is what you are going to get. He's not Dwight Howard, he's not Kevin Garnett, he's Javale McGee. He was not drafted to be a superstar and never will be. Just be glad for the contributions he gives as a mid 1st round pick, because if you look at it in that light, he's what an 18th overall selection should be.
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Originally Posted by SiCkSoULjA
Because with Javale it's not physical, it's mental, it's maturity, it's motivation and heart with him. You just can't "improve" with those things, either you have it or you don't. And he shows that he's lacking in many of those areas and not not willing to change.
If his issues were physical and you told me he needs to get in the weight room and bulk up, or work on his conditioning, or work with a free throw shooting coach then i could accept in a year or two him improving if he did those things. But those things aren't his main problem.
I agree the alot of these guys suck on defense. I also agree Whittman is a worthless x and o coach but I felt the same way about Flip. But the effort JaVale gives on the perimeter playing pick&rolls is unacceptable. And to top it off he has no clue on how to defend it.
And yes Steve there is problems boxing out but its because of the poorous pick&roll defense. Nobody is rotating over on the screener so now he is inside of our guy right off the roll going to the basket. It happened to Singleton the other night at the end of the Bucks game that was'nt on him he had to stop the ball. I seen alot of people blaming him.
Thats why i've moaned and groaned for a vet pick&roll coach like JVG or Sloan. Because Wall in a pick&roll heavy offense with shooters will be a nightmare. And maybe playing for a defensively sound coach and practicing againest the pick&roll everyday the light switch will go on for some of these guys
I'm not a JaVale hater at all but he is 24 now and he played 2 years in college at some point the lightswitch has to cut on if its ever going to.
I wish somebody could put up the video of the play that got McGee yanked last night around the 8 min mark in the 4th.
McGee frankly has become Whittman's distraction of choice. I'm almost impressed. We get torched last night by shooters? McGee (17 minutes). We get torched by Mike friggin Dunleavy and the coach decides to not put in a defensive center when we are up 1 point? McGee (17 minutes). Kings use three guards to kill the Wizards? McGee's fault. Suns go on a huge run in the 3rd and the coach literally watches it happen? McGee's fault.
At this point I think they should just trade him because he isn't going to resign and I'm sick of the focus being so incredibly misplaced.
Two things:Quote:
Originally Posted by Samuels
1 - No one rotating is something I've pointed out ever since people started blaming McGee/Blatche/Seraphin/Booker for easy dunks while they came out to challenge the driving player. No one in DC likes to place blame on the perimeter players not named Nick Young, and even then only for offense. Was anyone benched for that poor play that cost the game? No.
2 - Bucks took a timeout down 1 point with 6 seconds left. Everyone that has ever watched the NBA knew that they would try to get something near the rim. Only if they couldn't would they settle for a shot. This is a play when you want your biggest on the floor guarding the rim and securing that rebound. What does Whittless do? Subs in Singleton for Mason. Seraphin and McGee get to watch this play from the sidelines. What happens? 6-10 Ersan Ilyasova gets the put back for the win. One of two Bucks players standing shoulder to shoulder under the basket.
I agree. Thats also why NY has gone to bench with McGeeQuote:
Originally Posted by Destino
I expect more from McGee if he is getting a big contract and he is gonna be a core guy. I can live with guys getting pushed around or flatout beat. But halfassed effort is unacceptable on any level.
If you could transplant Bookers heart and brains into McGee you might have a hall of fame player.
Thinking about it, this NBA 2012 draft isn't as stacked as every said it was going to be. Plus, I think a lot of players are going to come back to school again. I wouldn't be surprised to see Sully and Barnes return. We might end up having to take Beal if he comes out, in the top 5. Which, might turn out great. I'd love Thomas Robinson and John Jenkins from Vandy in the 2nd or maybe buy a late first rounder. A productive PF with a lights out shooter.
MKG has already said he's going back.Quote:
Originally Posted by goskins36
as long as we can come out of the draft with either The Unibrow or T.Robinson, I'm good.
http://www.bulletsforever.com/2012/3...moving-forward
Much more in the link.Quote:
Perhaps JaVale McGee really is the victim of several years of a horrendous culture. Perhaps JaVale McGee really is the one that gets away and makes the Washington Wizards pay several years down the road like predecessors Chris Webber, Rasheed Wallace and Rip Hamilton. But those are fears of the great unknown, and they say way more about things that have little to do with McGee than with McGee himself.
In the here and the now, the reality is this: the Wizards are creeping up on a day where they must start to view McGee as a certainty instead of a project, and McGee's demonstrated very little hope that he can be a certainty.
Blame whoever you want, but that's where we're at right now. The latest episode doesn't really tell us anything we didn't know already. Randy Wittman, fed up with McGee's inattention to detail and his inability to process all the things that he needs to process to play center in the NBA in 2012, benched him for the second half of Tuesday's game against the Milwaukee Bucks. The Wizards went on a major run in the second half before losing, so Wittman rewarded the players who nearly won the game by giving them more playing time against Orlando. After McGee was reduced to a second-line player in what proved to be another relatively acceptable effort against the Magic, both he and Wittman revealed that they talked between games. When asked whether he "understood" Wittman's message, McGee said he didn't, but is sure he'll figure it out soon.
Wittman denied that he was sending a message at practice on Thursday, saying he was just coaching. But part of coaching is sending messages, and the message to McGee was strong. The Wizards have tried to figure out a way to coax some cerebral play from McGee's numerous gifts, and it just hasn't happened. Blame whatever factors you want on that -- McGee's physical condition stemming from his asthma, his lack of lateral quickness given his frame, his mother being in his ear, his own desire to skip algebra and go straight to advanced calculus -- but that's the reality.
And now, it's time for the organization to move on.
It is an interesting article that brings up many points. But it doesnt answer how we will fill 4 starting roster spots next year should we let mcgee walk. We wouldnt even have 1 center left on this roster if we dont resign him. We have far more pressing needs to fill on the team. Deandre Jordan cant be compared to this team because he plays with Chris Paul and Blake Griffin. Im sorry, but that is just not a fair comparison. Mcgee is playing with john wall and a bunch of scrubs. I choose to bring him back if only to prevent the team from having to fill out an entire roster in one offseason. If that is the case, we might as well get ready to see John Wall pack his bags, because i assure you that he will not stick around for 2 more rebuilding years.
I agree with it 110% as I said earlier. McGee is never gonna be a cerebal player as much as I wish he could. His athletic gifts are so great that you just hang onto hope. But as I said earlier i'd look to see his value and would move him for the right young 2,3 or 4 that fits with Wall.Quote:
Originally Posted by StillUnknown
But I still don't think any team is gonna throw huge money 8 MILLION + his way and he might be back on his RFA 1 year tender like NY.
At this point we have Wall and a bunch of role/bench players. Nobody in our starting 5 besides Wall starts on a really good team.
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Originally Posted by Skin'emAlive
Jordan is a very good defender on the perimeter and in the post. He is a garbage player on offense but lets not act like McGee is'nt a garbage player either on offense. Both get easy points off dunks and make the occasional hook or nice shot but the majority comes from the PG setting them up. And at this point McGee is a top option on our team while Jordan is'nt with all the players on that team.
I wouldnt say McGee is garbage on the offensive side. I think he has upped his game. But he is dreadful in the pick and roll. His defense is average at best. I think a good PF would be best for him to defend down low and let McGee play clean up.
Comparing McGee directly to Jordan may not be fair, that's true, but McGee's on/off differential is substantially worse than any other Wizards starters.
Yeah, the team is bad, but the stats indicate that despite his decent averages he makes the team worse when he's out there.
I wouldn't compare McGee to guys like Hamilton and Webber. Webber was a star who helped carry this team to the playoffs at an age similar to McGee's. He was a MUCH better player and was traded for a stupid reason. Hamilton really wasn't given time to shine but most people knew he would have been a quality starting SG but unfortunately MJ being player/GM didn't want to keep a guy who was playing his position.