Maryland Basketball (some football) recruiting news (Shaq, Layman Commits!)

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Originally Posted by Tulane Skins Fan

One thing that seems to be getting missed here is that this has nothing to do with basketball. All these moves are solely about football and tv contracts. College football is king.

I am a much bigger college basketball fan than a college football fan, myself, but not a single school has made a move because they thought it was a good basketball decision.

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The ACC makes decisions based on basketball.

Because Swofford is an idiot.

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Originally Posted by DarrellsMyHero28

The ACC makes decisions based on basketball.

Because Swofford is an idiot.

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When leagues start doing that, they end up folding. See BigEast.

There's no such thing as a "basketball first power conference." Football, sadly, rules college athletics.

I don't think the ACC really did that though with Cuse and Pitt. At the very least, they could justify Cuse and Pitt as adequate football powers. Pittsburgh is sort of a sleeping giant of college football. Of course, its been sleeping forever. But, its a great area for football.

Big East is the team that started trying to gobble up basketball teams, and it doesn't work. You cannot be competitive.

Well, I supposed its too much to ask for the Big 10 to pick a conference name that makes sense?

As per ESPN:

Leaders

Ohio State
Wisconsin
Penn State
Indiana
Purdue
Maryland
Rutgers

Legends

Nebraska
Michigan
Michigan State
Minnesota
Northwestern
Iowa
Illinois

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Originally Posted by Tulane Skins Fan

When leagues start doing that, they end up folding. See BigEast.

There's no such thing as a "basketball first power conference." Football, sadly, rules college athletics.

I don't think the ACC really did that though with Cuse and Pitt. At the very least, they could justify Cuse and Pitt as adequate football powers. Pittsburgh is sort of a sleeping giant of college football. Of course, its been sleeping forever. But, its a great area for football.

Big East is the team that started trying to gobble up basketball teams, and it doesn't work. You cannot be competitive.

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You make a decent point with Pitt, but Syracuse isn't there. Pitt has fantastic recruiting opportunities that the Orange do not.

Plus, Boeheim can't coach forever. I'm not happy about it.

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Originally Posted by LeesburgSkinFan

As per ESPN:

Leaders

Ohio State
Wisconsin
Penn State
Indiana
Purdue
Maryland
Rutgers

Legends

Nebraska
Michigan
Michigan State
Minnesota
Northwestern
Iowa
Illinois

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Those divisional names "leaders" and "legends" are the worst pieces of news i've gotten today. Someone needs to get on that.

looks like we are in a pretty strong basketball division with wisconsin, indiana, purdue and ohio state though.

http://twitter.com/slmandel/statuses/270620484964601857

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Give Loh a lot of credit. He is the first one I can remember in any of these announcements to say flat out, we need the money.

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After listening to Van Pelt give his opinion, I feel less angry about it. Funny how an ESPN guy who happens to be a Terp seems like the most trustworthy guy on all things Maryland.

Anywho.....like I said earlier....update the conference name....and those division names? YUCK. Give me East/West or something. Doesn't need to be fancy.

So, Illinois gets moved to the Legends Division. Speaking of dumb names. I never liked the Coastal or Atlantic crap either.

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Originally Posted by pjfootballer

The ACC's mistake was not going after West Virginia. What they should have done is, invited WVA, Pitt and Syracuse. Then invited Notre Dame, let them keep ALL their NBC money and package and give them a partial share of ACC money to go towards their other sports. Meaning, if everyone in the ACC gets 25 million a year for TV from football, ND only gets like a fourth of a share. Having ND and WVA would have made the ACC a legit football conference, but they screwed themselves.

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WVU was never going to get an invite to the ACC due to their academics.

Major Harris has done a good job over the years explaining why WVU doesn't have the academic resume of some other schools, but the fact remains that they would never fit in with the ACC which is why they were never on the ACC's radar.

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Originally Posted by Heisenberg

WVU was never going to get an invite to the ACC due to their academics.

Major Harris has done a good job over the years explaining why WVU doesn't have the academic resume of some other schools, but the fact remains that they would never fit in with the ACC which is why they were never on the ACC's radar.

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Hence why I said it was a mistake. They should have been looking at schools that improve the football makeup of the conference sans academics. I'm all for the fact that the students are "supposedly" there for the education first, but lets be blount and just say that it's OK to have a college in your conference that isn't quite up to academic standards. The ACC isn't the Ivy League and athletics bring in the dollars (especially football) and not academia. They shouldn't have even looked at WVA's academic record and looked at their football record. Now, they'll have to try and keep the conference together. It won't be easy as I really think Florida State has already started "looking" into how MD is able to leave to try and find a greener pasture. Only a matter of time.

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Originally Posted by pjfootballer

Hence why I said it was a mistake. They should have been looking at schools that improve the football makeup of the conference sans academics. I'm all for the fact that the students are "supposedly" there for the education first, but lets be blount and just say that it's OK to have a college in your conference that isn't quite up to academic standards. The ACC isn't the Ivy League and athletics bring in the dollars (especially football) and not academia. They shouldn't have even looked at WVA's academic record and looked at their football record. Now, they'll have to try and keep the conference together. It won't be easy as I really think Florida State has already started "looking" into how MD is able to leave to try and find a greener pasture. Only a matter of time.

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No doubt FSU is off to the big 12. SEC wants to expand their footprint, plus it was rumored Florida and other teams may veto FSU. Also, why would teams like Tenn and Ole miss want another football powerhouse to compete with? (thinking out loud)...Too many big boys not enough spots. The sec is loaded and probably does not want FSU.

Karma is a *****......I remember my ACC buddies giving me the hardest time when the Big East was getting vultured.

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Originally Posted by pjfootballer

Hence why I said it was a mistake. They should have been looking at schools that improve the football makeup of the conference sans academics. I'm all for the fact that the students are "supposedly" there for the education first, but lets be blount and just say that it's OK to have a college in your conference that isn't quite up to academic standards. The ACC isn't the Ivy League and athletics bring in the dollars (especially football) and not academia. They shouldn't have even looked at WVA's academic record and looked at their football record. Now, they'll have to try and keep the conference together. It won't be easy as I really think Florida State has already started "looking" into how MD is able to leave to try and find a greener pasture. Only a matter of time.

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The mistake was not making enough money with the teams they had. Apparently. Sounds like the BigTen is a much better run company from a money making stand point.

Never in my wildest imagination would I thought Maryland would be the first ACC team to leave. My money was on FSU first, then Clemson.