Re: Obama Thread - DNC '12 Gay Marriage and Free Abortions for everybody!
Re: Obama Thread - DNC '12 Gay Marriage and Free Abortions for everybody!
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Originally Posted by
Hersh
What this speech does is allow President Obama to lay out his vision for a second term rather than rehash the entire first term. It's intentional that they are doing it this way.
I think that's a good point. Letting Clinton explain the wonky stuff, rehash Obama's first term, and debunk Republican attacks in a his unique style where he can get that info across but still be very engaging. That lets Obama talk more about his vision for his next term and the future tomorrow night.
Re: Obama Thread - DNC '12 Gay Marriage and Free Abortions for everybody!
Clinton crushed Romney and Ryan tonight. It was hilarious when he said it takes brass when referring to Paul Ryan's medicare claim.
Re: Obama Thread - DNC '12 Gay Marriage and Free Abortions for everybody!
Holy crap. President Clinton just kicked an entire party's ass for thirty minutes.
Re: Obama Thread - DNC '12 Gay Marriage and Free Abortions for everybody!
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Originally Posted by
Hersh
Obama will give whomever the nominee is his full support. That's automatic.
No, Bill will want Obama to endorse Hillary in 2016 to help ensure she is the nominee.
Re: Obama Thread - DNC '12 Gay Marriage and Free Abortions for everybody!
I wish people hate me as much as Clinton hates Obama. To philosphically be at odds with someone and drop a speech like that on their behalf.
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It's a shame that President Obama can't seem to explain his own accomplishments the way that Clinton did.
Re: Obama Thread - DNC '12 Gay Marriage and Free Abortions for everybody!
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Originally Posted by
Rdskns2000
No, Bill will want Obama to endorse Hillary in 2016 to help ensure she is the nominee.
Would be kind of crappy for O not to do that anyway. Hillary could have made it a lot harder for Obama to get reelected if she hadn't accepted the SoS role and done so well with it.
Re: Obama Thread - DNC '12 Gay Marriage and Free Abortions for everybody!
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Originally Posted by
Rdskns2000
No, Bill will want Obama to endorse Hillary in 2016 to help ensure she is the nominee.
Sitting Presidents don't do that and that won't change.
Re: Obama Thread - DNC '12 Gay Marriage and Free Abortions for everybody!
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Originally Posted by
SkinsHokieFan
Clinton just oozes charisma.
It's amazing. It's unmatched.
Obama is a powerful speaker too, more eloquent than Clinton, but not as charismatic.
This was an amazing speech, he has tremendous credibility. Makes high minded ideals and abstractions seem like the most natural and obvious things in the world. Boils issues down for the masses to digest with his interpretations seeming like the natural, common sense ones. His charisma completely sells his message.
Obama slays in this kind of convention atmosphere. I expect his speech to be impressive too. He can easily summon a really powerful sense of history and idealism that inspires his audience. Have Clinton set him up, excoriate the republicans and lay bare their nonsense, play cheerleader for Obama's policy record, connect with the common man and speak to their brains. Then have Obama come in tomorrow and speak to their hearts. It's a winning combination.
Re: Obama Thread - DNC '12 Gay Marriage and Free Abortions for everybody!
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Originally Posted by
Heisenberg
Would be kind of crappy for O not to do that anyway. Hillary could have made it a lot harder for Obama to get reelected if she hadn't accepted the SoS role and done so well with it.
The Clintons know that if they are perceived to sink Obama, she would never get the nomination which is why they would never do it. Plus, I'm sure Hillary has loved being SoS verse being in the Senate.
Re: Obama Thread - DNC '12 Gay Marriage and Free Abortions for everybody!
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Originally Posted by
Hersh
The Clintons know that if they are perceived to sink Obama, she would never get the nomination which is why they would never do it. Plus, I'm sure Hillary has loved being SoS verse being in the Senate.
That's true.
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Brit Hume: Clinton was "wonky" & "self-indulgent" & his speech was 30% too long.
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Originally Posted by
BRAVEONAWARPATH
Brit Hume: Clinton was "wonky" & "self-indulgent" & his speech was 30% too long.
Alex Castellanos said that Clinton just won Obama the election.
Re: Obama Thread - DNC '12 Gay Marriage and Free Abortions for everybody!
Romney got no bounce, but Obama will.