2012-2013 NCAA Football Thread (National Signing Day)

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Originally Posted by Popeman38

Launched, lead with his helmet, and hit a "defenseless" receiver. Other than those 3 things, yeah, perfectly legal hit. :ols:

This hit is what is wrong with high school and college football, and by extension the NFL. Joyner wanted to lay the Duke receiver out and be on SportsCenter. If he had fundamentally wrapped the receiver up and driven him out of bounds, the ball falls incomplete and he does his job. But since he wanted to lay the wood, he launched himself, failed to wrap up, and first contact was his helmet to the receivers chest.

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This sounds like a really great defense of the penalty flag, except for the fact that he didn't lead with his helmet, he hit with his shoulder, into the WRs chest.

That's not illegal, it's just a great, big hit.

Of course, this is familiar ground for FSU. It was just last year when Nigel Bradham hit Laron Byrd in a similar way and was ejected immediately, only for the ACC to come out a few days later and publicly apologize for the bad call, and say that the hit was in fact legal:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGYwJaqIzLU

The funny thing is, pay attention to one of the ACC football commercials during one of their national games. Their conference highlight reels feature tons of hits like that. When they actually come during the games, they result in penalties.

ACC football: hit too hard on defense, and you'll get flagged and/or ejected! (But at least you'll receive a formal apology later in the week, and that referee crew will get suspended for a game)

Of course, if Joyner was wearing a UF, South Carolina, or LSU jersey, it's seen as a clean hit and a great example of "SEC speed!"

The ACC is seen as a bad football conference for a lot of reasons, but horrible, ticky-tack officiating on a weekly basis doesn't help.

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Originally Posted by earl

i don't know if its just playcalling. i mean how many drives were stopped by just bad execution by Logan or someone else.

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It's not just the playcalling.

Stinespring has been the constant coach who fans have wanted as the scapegoat.

"Beamerball" hasn't existed for several years now. This is the best defense Foster has put together in a few years, but his units have slipped from their former glory days.

At least Frank Beamer hasn't complicated things by hiring one of his sons as an influential staff member....oh wait.

At this point, barring Beamer just choosing to walk away completely (which is unlikely, considering how much proud he has in his job and in what he's built that program into), I don't see how this doesn't ultimately end in a very ugly Bowden/FSU type of PR debacle.

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Originally Posted by Spartacus87

This sounds like a really great defense of the penalty flag, except for the fact that he didn't lead with his helmet, he hit with his shoulder, into the WRs chest.

That's not illegal, it's just a great, big hit.

Of course, this is familiar ground for FSU. It was just last year when Nigel Bradham hit Laron Byrd in a similar way and was ejected immediately, only for the ACC to come out a few days later and publicly apologize for the bad call, and say that the hit was in fact legal:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGYwJaqIzLU

The funny thing is, pay attention to one of the ACC football commercials during one of their national games. Their conference highlight reels feature tons of hits like that. When they actually come during the games, they result in penalties.

ACC football: hit too hard on defense, and you'll get flagged and/or ejected! (But at least you'll receive a formal apology later in the week, and that referee crew will get suspended for a game)

Of course, if Joyner was wearing a UF, South Carolina, or LSU jersey, it's seen as a clean hit and a great example of "SEC speed!"

The ACC is seen as a bad football conference for a lot of reasons, but horrible, ticky-tack officiating on a weekly basis .

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Dude, I know you think you know CFB, so I will go slow: I posted the rules. The receiver was defenseless. FSU player failed to use fundamentals and instead tried to lay the receiver out. SEC players get flagged for that hit EVERY week. Get off the "FSU is victimized and there is a conspiracy against them" crap. It was a bad hit. Drew a flag. Had zero impact on ANYTHING.

EDIT: If you can't see the difference between the hit you just posted and the one we have been discussing, you are worse off than I thought.

Bama@LSU
Oregon@USC
OKState@KState
Pitt@ND

Let the chaos begin.

We are getting the GT - MD game here

Curious to see how Linebacker QB does

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Won't blame Maryland if they lose by a million here today

Their QB's are all out, and LB isn't doing anything. 2 three and outs, and fumble on next drive

Missouri up 7-0 on UF halfway through the second quarter. Come on UF dont make FSU's strength of schedule worse then it already is. Although I can't say I'll be totally disappointed to see the gators lose.

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Originally Posted by big#44

Missouri up 7-0 on UF halfway through the second quarter. Come on UF dont make FSU's strength of schedule worse then it already is. Although I can't say I'll be totally disappointed to see the gators lose.

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Aw, c'mon. The Gators are the greatest!!!! Just ask them.

How bad are Auburn, Arkansas, and Kentucky? Yikes.

GT up 20-0 at half. Poor Maryland. :doh:

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Originally Posted by afkidd

How bad are Auburn, Arkansas, and Kentucky? Yikes.

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Come on man are you serious? The SEC is head and shoulders above the rest of the country from top to bottom.

not srs.

Shawn Petty (Marylands 5th string QB/LB) went 9/18 for 115 yards, 2 TD's and 1 Int. and lost.
UF's Jeff Driskel went 12/23 for 106 yards and a TD and won.


Wow.

ND's undefeated season is on the line.

I was just thinking, IF ND score holds, LSU pulls it out against Bama, and Oregon and KState go undefeated who goes to the ship? The two undefeateds? Or does Oregon get the shaft and get skipped over by a 1 loss SEC team?

edit: nevermind. If that were the case Oregon would have to beat ranked teams 3 of their last 4 games, they would almost certainly get the nod.

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Originally Posted by ixcuincle

ND's undefeated season is on the line.

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TD after a poor PI call gets them back in it.

(missed xp)

If ND were to lose KSU and Alabama would be favorites for NC

Not fan of Oregon, they blow everyone out but they haven't played anyone

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Watching WVU and TCU in OT

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Originally Posted by ixcuincle

If ND were to lose KSU and Alabama would be favorites for NC

Not fan of Oregon, they blow everyone out but they haven't played anyone

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Their schedule is heavily back loaded. 3 of their next 4 games they play
#17 USC
Cal
#14 Stanford
#11 Oregon State.

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West Virginia is doing everything they can to try and lose this game. First Geno almost throws a pick at the end of regulation, then the game winning field goal is blocked in overtime. Man if they pull this out it wont be without some adversity.

Edit: and Bailey with the TD. West Virginia on top. Up to TCU to answer

edit #2: are you kidding? TCU scores on the first play?

TCU wins it. Amazing!