Re: If the Skins go 6-10 or worse, Shanny SHOULD be on the chopping block
We are the most penalized team in the NFL. Coach needs to go.
Re: If the Skins go 6-10 or worse, Shanny SHOULD be on the chopping block
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ixcuincle
The best thing Shanahan has done in DC
- raise strong running backs that peter out after one season
- work with Allen to draft RG3
That's it
The only reason to keep him is because RG3 doesn't need another offensive coordinator as he tries to adjust to life in the NFL. I don't like the way he is coaching at all, but he should see the rest of his contract. But right now, based on his results, he is doing a bad job. Period. I don't want to hear spin about how the roster sucked when he first got here. Make improvements. Play better. Discipline your players. Call better plays.
There is no excuse anymore, now that Cerrato is gone. It's all him and Allen, and they're still failing.
Agreed and the main problem is week after week were getting worse not better. At the beginning of the season losses were not as bad because you saw the flashes on offense and you knew well the defense just stinks we can fix it in the offseason. Now I dont know the whole team is sputtering and to be quite honest were not that much better right now then the KC chiefs and thats a scary thought. I know the St. Louis Rams right now are incredibly happy most likely they will have a top 5 pick. The worst part about it is that our division stinks and if we had just an okay D and not the worst D in the league we would be playing meaningful games in Nov. and Dec.
Re: If the Skins go 6-10 or worse, Shanny SHOULD be on the chopping block
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The Robert Griffin Experience
>polian
>good
lol no
Shanahan has been at least as good as Polian since 1998. And probably better. Shanahan at least has built a few decent defenses in that span. His teams were just never bad enough to get a stud QB until now, while Polian essentially inherited one (Manning over Leaf was a no-brainer), got a few years out of Edge, drafted Reggie Wayne and Clark, and thereafter blew first rounder after first rounder.
No need to dump on Polian to defend Shanny.
Polian was a great executive and Shanny is a great coach. Polian was 6 time executive of the year. He certainly knows football and he was a very creative, outside the box thinker with a knack for finding value where nobody else saw it--a necessity because his teams never had cap room or a decent budget for FAs and never had early draft picks.
Polian is actually of a feather with Shanny IMO. If you listen to him talk about our team, Polian gets what we're trying to do when not many of the talking heads do. He sees the game the same way as Shanny and he values our players about as accurately as anyone else in the media seems to.
Re: If the Skins go 6-10 or worse, Shanny SHOULD be on the chopping block
I'm TOTALLY in the "Fire Shanahan" camp. If Philly continue to lose, what about Andy Reid? I also heard that Sean Payton might not return to N.O? I'd rather have either of those guys than the overrated Mike Shanahan.
Re: If the Skins go 6-10 or worse, Shanny SHOULD be on the chopping block
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Originally Posted by
stevemcqueen1
No need to dump on Polian to defend Shanny.
Polian was a great executive and Shanny is a great coach. Polian was 6 time executive of the year. He certainly knows football and he was a very creative, outside the box thinker with a knack for finding value where nobody else saw it--a necessity because his teams never had cap room or a decent budget for FAs and never had early draft picks.
I do concede that Polian never had the most in resources to work with, so maybe he does get a curve. However, he's turned in some ugly drafts in a row, and his team-building strategy was always too focused around Peyton Manning's ability to put up points. Granted, you work with what you got, I suppose, but I really feel that a more balanced approach would have yielded more Super Bowl wins.
It got me thinking - has any front office gotten consistent value picking in the 20s consistently?
I think we can agree though that the "Shanahan inherited his talent for his SB wins" meme is far past getting old, and it's silly to bring up Polian in comparison when Polian inherited a lot of his early mainstays too.
Re: If the Skins go 6-10 or worse, Shanny SHOULD be on the chopping block
Option #1 -
- Sean Payton + Real GM
Option #2 -
- Stick with the Shanny's
- Strip Shanny of GM duties
- Replace Haslett with anyone (probably stick with the 3-4 to minimize personnel issues)
Re: If the Skins go 6-10 or worse, Shanny SHOULD be on the chopping block
6-10??? HaHaHa. This team will be lucky to finish 4-12!!
Re: If the Skins go 6-10 or worse, Shanny SHOULD be on the chopping block
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DiscoBob
Option #1 -
- Sean Payton + Real GM
Option #2 -
- Stick with the Shanny's
- Strip Shanny of GM duties
- Replace Haslett with anyone (probably stick with the 3-4 to minimize personnel issues)
We've got the money to pay Payton. Would he be able to use Griffin like Brees, or would he make the offense to fit Griffin?
Re: If the Skins go 6-10 or worse, Shanny SHOULD be on the chopping block
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Originally Posted by
DiscoBob
Option #1 -
- Sean Payton + Real GM
Option #2 -
- Stick with the Shanny's
- Strip Shanny of GM duties
- Replace Haslett with anyone (probably stick with the 3-4 to minimize personnel issues)
Count me in for either of those options. I still would like to see DeCosta from the Ravens.
Re: If the Skins go 6-10 or worse, Shanny SHOULD be on the chopping block
Bill O'Brien for head coach. I would kill to see this happen. He is a brilliant offensive mind with an old school football mentality. I would wet myself.
Re: If the Skins go 6-10 or worse, Shanny SHOULD be on the chopping block
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kleese
The NFL doesn't operate the way it used to. The clock ticks faster now. I keep hearing people say we are 2-3 years away from being good... Well, if that is the case, Shanny won't be here to see it. 6-7 year rebuilding projects don't fly in the NFL anymore.
Ultimately, I do not view this season as much of a developmental one as others do. They need to do some winning.
Bumping this thread because I've been thinking about it a lot during this winning streak. I agreed with the OP when he initially posted this. By Year 3, it was time for progress in the W/L column, and I have to give credit to Shanny for delivering there - at worst, this team is going to finish at 9-7 this year, and will barely miss the playoffs. At best, they're going to win the division, host a playoff game, and maybe more. Thank you, Coach Shanahan and the rest of the Washington Redskins for not quitting on yourselves, your fans, and your season. Wow.
Re: If the Skins go 6-10 or worse, Shanny SHOULD be on the chopping block
Given that the Redskins have had the remarkable turnaround, they should be reasonably picked to be one of the teams "on the rise" next year and comfortably predicted for a playoff spot, if not more (and I know the 2012 season isn't even over yet). The Lions were thought of in a similar vein coming into this season.......what happened to them, and how can the Redskins best avoid a setback?
Re: If the Skins go 6-10 or worse, Shanny SHOULD be on the chopping block
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DM72
I'm TOTALLY in the "Fire Shanahan" camp. If Philly continue to lose, what about Andy Reid? I also heard that Sean Payton might not return to N.O? I'd rather have either of those guys than the overrated Mike Shanahan.
Andy Reid? Absolutely positively NOT.
Re: If the Skins go 6-10 or worse, Shanny SHOULD be on the chopping block
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Originally Posted by
hail2skins
Given that the Redskins have had the remarkable turnaround, they should be reasonably picked to be one of the teams "on the rise" next year and comfortably predicted for a playoff spot, if not more (and I know the 2012 season isn't even over yet). The Lions were thought of in a similar vein coming into this season.......what happened to them, and how can the Redskins best avoid a setback?
I'm not sure what happened to the Lions honestly. Calvin is having a monster season and Stafford is 2nd in the league in passing. Their defense hasn't been as good, but it's hard to say what happened for them to be a 10-6 team last year to a 5-10 team this year.
For us to avoid a set back, we'll have to add some depth to the secondary and DL. We definitely seem to be on the right track now.
Re: If the Skins go 6-10 or worse, Shanny SHOULD be on the chopping block
As to the raging debate over the OP, thankfully, that will be something left unanswered that we'll never know.
And man is that the best possible scenario for all our sanity.
Hail.
