Re: Guns rights advocate making strong case for gun control
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Originally Posted by
HBnotBlades
Wow, he's really losing it. I think that went exactly as Morgan intended it to go.
Reminded me a little of "please proceed, Governor"!:ols:
Re: CNN Video: guest Alex Jones Slams Piers Morgan
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Originally Posted by
Poman
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There is a direct correlation between the concerns of people unwilling to be disarmed by their government and the actions of previous tyrants. Your "Godwins Law" is not applicable here, because the argument starts out with a correlation.
Please! You were able to quote three founding fathers who shared similar points of view....my objection is to the fact that many pro-gun folks pull a Glenn Beck and go straight to Hitler! It is the logical fallacy of slippery slope and is fear mongering at its worst.
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It doesn't end up there. You may call it absurd. Many people believe it's not. Not because they're idiots, but they believe they see correlations and consistencies with events in history. They have quotes and beliefs from our founding fathers to assist their beliefs. You have a "law" created over the internet. Who is right? I'm not smart enough to know. But I know what I believe. I know what I believe is not "absurd" nor a "fallacy". I also know that I can have a conversation with somebody with a dissenting opinion without throwing words out to make myself seem smarter and to belittle them.
Saying something is a logical fallacy is NOT belittling to someone unless they take opposition to their position personally, which you have done twice now. If you've posted something like the pic above recently then I believe you're not only acting irresponsibly, but also engaging in intellectual laziness. For that I'll not apologize, and I told my friend who posted that stupid picture the same thing.
Re: CNN Video: guest Alex Jones Slams Piers Morgan
Piers Morgan has been insufferable the last few weeks as he has been on a soapbox for gun control
His debates are basically him yelling at people to answer questions
I am not an Alex Jones fan but he dominated Piers that night. Piers couldn't get a word in :ols:
Listen, I have no say in this. I just like entertainment. And that was entertaining.
Re: CNN Video: guest Alex Jones Slams Piers Morgan
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Originally Posted by
ixcuincle
I am not an Alex Jones fan but he dominated Piers that night. Piers couldn't get a word in :ols:
Some of us evaluate domination in a debate or discussion by who has the stronger argument on the merits, Alex Jones screaming about reliving his disgusting dream of an armed revolution to protect guns doesn't come close. In that respect all Piers had to do was not say anything and he's have dominated the fool Jones.
Re: CNN Video: guest Alex Jones Slams Piers Morgan
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Originally Posted by
Unforgiven
Wow. That dude needs to chill out a minute, going to have a heart attack before he gets a chance to die in the revolution...
I don't know whether to laugh at him or sigh about the fact enough people pay attention to him that he managed to get on CNN for a few minutes and make a fool of himself.
I can imagine him as an insufferable family member or neighbor that you're forced to see every so often. Yikes!
Re: CNN Video: guest Alex Jones Slams Piers Morgan
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Originally Posted by
DallasCowboyFan156
His mock British accent was the icing on the cake. The guy may be legitimately insane but it was very entertaining.
Yah, that was hilarious
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Originally Posted by
Destino
Wow. I knew he was nuts but that's so over the top that its mesmerizing.
He honestly reminds me of Sam Kinison
Re: CNN Video: guest Alex Jones Slams Piers Morgan
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Originally Posted by
AsburySkinsFan
Some of us evaluate domination in a debate or discussion by who has the stronger argument on the merits, Alex Jones screaming about reliving his disgusting dream of an armed revolution to protect guns doesn't come close. In that respect all Piers had to do was not say anything and he's have dominated the fool Jones.
You're talking about cable news here. Cable news is all about shouting and screaming down minor peons.
Re: CNN Video: guest Alex Jones Slams Piers Morgan
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Originally Posted by
ixcuincle
You're talking about cable news here. Cable news is all about shouting and screaming down minor peons.
Point taken...I stand corrected. This also explains a great deal of why I don't watch cable "news".
Re: CNN Video: guest Alex Jones Slams Piers Morgan
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Originally Posted by
Poman
There is a direct correlation between the concerns of people unwilling to be disarmed by their government and the actions of previous tyrants. Your "Godwins Law" is not applicable here, because the argument starts out with a correlation. It doesn't end up there. You may call it absurd. Many people believe it's not. Not because they're idiots, but they believe they see correlations and consistencies with events in history. They have quotes and beliefs from our founding fathers to assist their beliefs. You have a "law" created over the internet. Who is right? I'm not smart enough to know. But I know what I believe. I know what I believe is not "absurd" nor a "fallacy". I also know that I can have a conversation with somebody with a dissenting opinion without throwing words out to make myself seem smarter and to belittle them.
The thing is, basically no one is talking about disarming the people. We are talking about reasonable regulations to protect people.
The way some pro-gun people talk, its like I have a responsibility or a duty to own a gun, not just a right. That its my fault for not having a gun, or wanting one.
Again, no one is saying that you can't have a gun. People are saying, you don't need a gun that can shoot 100 bullets in five seconds. Or armor piercing bullets. Is saying people shouldn't have nuclear weapons "disarming the people?"
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The second video was great by the way: "If you punch me right now, its not your fist that did it, its your brain."
Re: CNN Video: guest Alex Jones Slams Piers Morgan
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Originally Posted by
Poman
There is a direct correlation between the concerns of people unwilling to be disarmed by their government and the actions of previous tyrants. Your "Godwins Law" is not applicable here, because the argument starts out with a correlation. It doesn't end up there. You may call it absurd. Many people believe it's not. Not because they're idiots, but they believe they see correlations and consistencies with events in history. They have quotes and beliefs from our founding fathers to assist their beliefs. You have a "law" created over the internet. Who is right? I'm not smart enough to know. But I know what I believe. I know what I believe is not "absurd" nor a "fallacy". I also know that I can have a conversation with somebody with a dissenting opinion without throwing words out to make myself seem smarter and to belittle them.
Who is pushing for the population to be completely disarmed?
Re: CNN Video: guest Alex Jones Slams Piers Morgan
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Originally Posted by
Hersh
Who is pushing for the population to be completely disarmed?
You know,, Hitler, Stalin, Castro and Obama.
Peas in a pod.
People are idiots, really. They'll believe anything... especially if it can help them avoid facing their own part of the problem.
~Bang
Re: CNN Video: guest Alex Jones Slams Piers Morgan
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Originally Posted by
Hersh
Who is pushing for the population to be completely disarmed?
Some on the far Left, but the grown ups know it'll never happen, but the gun lobby would have people believe that Obama is going to take their guns, they already believe he is Hitler and Stalin rolled into one, but invoking Godwin's law is perfectly reasonable, because once the guns are gone we'll be helpless to resist the FEMA concentration camps.
Re: CNN Video: guest Alex Jones Slams Piers Morgan
This man personifies the sick, twisted love affair some people have with their firearms. It is mystifying to me, fascinating to see, and a bit horrifying really. These people spout revolution and issue a call to arms at the mere mention of broaching a discussion on enhanced gun laws. They are like paranoid, jealous lovers.
Re: CNN Video: guest Alex Jones Slams Piers Morgan
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Originally Posted by
Tulane Skins Fan
The thing is, basically no one is talking about disarming the people. We are talking about reasonable regulations to protect people.
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Originally Posted by
Hersh
Who is pushing for the population to be completely disarmed?
Reading through this thread, I was wondering when people would point this out. Thank you, gentlemen.
Worrying about thuh gub'mint taking away all of your guns is preposterous. That's not the issue -- no thanks to Alex Jones, who if anything serves as a great example of exactly the type of nut you'd want to keep far, far away from firearms and sharp things. Not to mention car keys, household medication, wet floors, and mattress tags.
Re: CNN Video: guest Alex Jones Slams Piers Morgan
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Originally Posted by
Poman
There is a direct correlation between the concerns of people unwilling to be disarmed by their government and the actions of previous tyrants. Your "Godwins Law" is not applicable here, because the argument starts out with a correlation. It doesn't end up there. You may call it absurd. Many people believe it's not. Not because they're idiots, but they believe they see correlations and consistencies with events in history. They have quotes and beliefs from our founding fathers to assist their beliefs. You have a "law" created over the internet. Who is right? I'm not smart enough to know. But I know what I believe. I know what I believe is not "absurd" nor a "fallacy". I also know that I can have a conversation with somebody with a dissenting opinion without throwing words out to make myself seem smarter and to belittle them.
Are you Alex Jones in disguise?
Do you really think that Hitler is an apt comparison to make anytime anyone suggests any consideration of any form of gun control?
If not, then pipe down. We aren't talking about you, and we aren't insulting you.