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You can conclude whatever you like. But, Griffin's injuries this season were not caused because of read-option. They were caused from scrambles.Quote:
Originally Posted by Oldfan
And I am not suggesting he stop scrambling nor the team stop the read-option. I am saying that Griffin needs protect himself better when he runs.
Meh, use the 2nd rounder on a RT and get a better C.
Duh! He becomes a pocket passer - behind a quality OL.
Yes, he could learn to protect himself better AND the Shanahan's could learn to protect him better by not exposing him to the read-option. It isn't like we have to choose. Both options would be wise.Quote:
Originally Posted by darrelgreenie
So you suggest we run more of the plays that got him hurt.Quote:
Originally Posted by Oldfan
The intelligent way of protecting him is for him to slide or get out of bounds
In 2008, Mike Shanahan's team allowed only an NFL leading 11 sacks for the season with an O-line that wasn't any better than this one. He did it by moving Jay Cutler around so that the defense could not zero in on the pocket.Quote:
Originally Posted by planter
I'm no doctor, but I would say in addition to this he would need to work on his whole body alignment. In another thread it was highlighted that the way he bends his knees puts a lot of strain on them. (Sorry, there have been so many - might have been the How Is RG3 thread).Quote:
Originally Posted by Btubes18
I'd have thought that with the amount of rehab he will need to do, he could at least attempt correcting this.
I suggest we use some common sense based on all our football experience, not just on the evidence of three plays.Quote:
Originally Posted by UK_HOG
That's one way, sure. But, there's no rule that says we are limited to only one way.Quote:
The intelligent way of protecting him is for him to slide or get out of bounds
Defaintaly need to rework the OL. To many times he took big hits due to a break down at the line. I know the guys up front played better this year than in the past, however how much of that was due to how well Robert could avoid the rush. I haven't looked at the stats, but I do know that there were alot of times that even after avoiding the sack Robert was taking big hits in the backfield. So we have got to up that pass blocking.
The kid needs to learn to slide and when to let go of a play.
None of Griffins injuries this year happened due to our scheme. Russell Wilson runs the same scheme Griffin does, and he's not nearly as good at it. He took more than twice as many sacks as Griffin on Sunday, but he knows how to protect himself better. He knows when to slide and when to throw the ball away. And at the end of the day a phenomenal player on one leg isn't going to beat a good player at full strength. Griffin needs to understand this and stop trying to win the game by himself. He's got a ton of heart but he's too reckless. Hopefully this lesson has now been learned.
Do you think that fact justifies keeping the read-option in our scheme?Quote:
Originally Posted by Henry
Agree. Love RG III but he has to learn not to play reckless. Russell Wilson runs the option some and he doesn't give the vibe that he's an injury waiting to happen because he knows when to get down. Ditto Kaepernick. To me its not even hindsight, you watch RG III play and IMO he plays with more abandon than any QB in the league. He can run but needs to stop playing with reckless abandon. The play where he got hurt against Baltimore, any other QB would run out of bounds, RG III ran straight into the middle of the field straight into contact -- that's unusual -- and he needs to stop doing it.Quote:
Originally Posted by darrelgreenie
I think scoring a lot of points justifies the read-option in our scheme, but that's probably for another thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by Oldfan
All I'm saying here is that the scheme isn't what's getting him hurt. He needs to protect himself better. If there's a better scheme out there that can maximize his talents I'm fine with that too, but no scheme will protect a kid that can't learn to slide or go out of bounds. Hopefully Griffin figures it out, because he's insanely talented.