Quote Originally Posted by Crazy Levi View Post
I wouldn't say that "a lot" of them are very good. I've checked it out back there when sitting in the lower level. Maybe the first couple of rows are good.

The overhang is so low that the window of visibility closes drastcally when people get on their feet. Which tends to happen a lot at a football game. So, even if you don't have a pillar in front of you, your view is still obscured and you still get tunnel vision. You have to remember that this stadium was NOT DESIGNED to have seats there. So even adding a couple of rows flies in the face of the design philosophy. If there were actually decent seats to be had back there, don't you think the original designers would have put some back there? It's not an accident that they didn't.

The real problem with those cave seats is that you need to be a true Fed Ex Field historian to really know what seats blow and which ones don't. Pretty much the only guy in the world who really knows which of those cave seats are tolerable is Mark the Homer. For everyone else, it's a complete crapshoot, even if you study this guide.

The only reliable policy is to avoid those seats altogether. I don't find them - with their tunnel vision, pillars, reduced incline, and egregious overhang - to be any kind of a bargain. Maybe the first row or two but even then, you really don't know what you are getting into unless you are Mark The Homer.

Best avoided at all costs.
I know a lot of the cave dwellers will disagree with you. We have a number on this board who love their seats because they cost a lot less than anything else on the LL and the views from, yes, a lot of those seats are pretty good for what is being paid. If it is not for you, fine. But a lot of fans on a budget like those seats.

As long as there is fair warning about the seat limitations, it is up to the purchaser to decide if it is a fair deal...and considering most of them get sold each season as season tickets, I'd say there is a market for them. So Snyder adding them was a fan-friendly thing to do that you complain so much about, and was a revenue addition for him.

And since they are now sold on a walk up basis so that the purchaser can sit in the seat prior to buying, the purchase knows exactly what they are getting for their money....no need to be a stadium historian....and no crapshoot at all.....in fact, they know their seats better than any of us in the auto upgrade process.