Mountaineers national champs and skins superbowl champs

[Inxsive]

South Florida just moved up to D1A a few years ago, and just entered a BCS conference a year ago. They are located in Tampa and share their facilities with the Tampa Bay Bucs. They are getting quality recruits and will be a top 25 program soon, you'll see. Florida has some of the best athletes and USF is already stealing some from FSU and Miami (it does help telling recruits they can start right away).

I never said Cincy was a good football program, but it's a step up from Temple which the Big East booted. UCONN is a rising program with great facilities (just joined D1A a few years back as well). I never said the Big East was better after what the ACC did. I'm just saying they are surviving and (dare I say) thriving despite all the "haters" who wanted to see them fail. I have a sister and many friends that went to VT. Sure, VT beat WVU last year. But, we all know who is the better TEAM right now.

You kinda make my point for me here. Filling your conference with team who recently jumped to D1 isn't much of an argument for a quality conference. I always think that if you beat a team soundly you can say you are a better team. FSU and Miami were better than VT last year. I don't know how you say your are better than a team that beat you on your home field by 17pts. It's not like I'm saying you lost to a team VT beat so that means VT is better. This was head to head and even a home game for WVU. No arguments that I can see hold any water. We'll have to determine next year differently since WVU is off the hook head to head.

[PleaseBlitz]

Ah, look at how this thread has exploded. I love it. Coupla things i would like to point out, seems TEG and Diggs and EerSkins have this pretty well handled.

#1. I laugh when VT fans call WVU fans insecure or things of that nature, yet they are the ones in a WVU thread whining and complaining, and denying all of the positive things going on with the WVU football team right now. Please, start a VT is great thread, i promise i will leave you alone.

#2. Anyone look at ESPN.com? Anyone notice that a positive story about WVU has appeared on the front page a half dozen times so far this year. VT hasnt had a positive headline since when? Not this year, everything has been about Vick and the other QB that did something dumb. The bowl win was overshadowed by Vick stomping on Dumervil. The game before that they got beat by FSU, so we are looking back to early december? VT right now, whether fans want to admit it or not, are THE team in the nation with the worst rep as far as having a "thug" image. Meanwhile WVU has been getting pub about being ranked in the top 3 preseason, Slaton and White being the dynamic freshman duo, Owen Schmitt being the nations #1 workout freak, RichRod holding coaching clinics and hundreds of coaches attending, and Slaton being on the Heisman short list.

#3. This thread is about WVU having a legitimate shot at a National Title. What the **** does conference have to do with anything. Im so tired of VT kids pimping their conference. Guess what? I hate Pitt, I hate Lville, I hate all of these schools. I dont care if they dont do well. WVU will be just fine regardless, and right now we are looking pretty damn good and im am enjoying it immensely. Every member of the media in the nation loves us. ESPN wants to televise as many of our games as possible. VT fans get to spend their time defending their thuggish program. No thanks.

[EersSkins05]

You kinda make my point for me here. Filling your conference with team who recently jumped to D1 isn't much of an argument for a quality conference. I always think that if you beat a team soundly you can say you are a better team. FSU and Miami were better than VT last year. I don't know how you say your are better than a team that beat you on your home field by 17pts. It's not like I'm saying you lost to a team VT beat so that means VT is better. This was head to head and even a home game for WVU. No arguments that I can see hold any water. We'll have to determine next year differently since WVU is off the hook head to head.

It's easy. WVU was better at the end of the year than they were the beginning, as their freshman position players adjusted to the college game. This is evidenced by their rank at the END of the season, as opposed to their rank at the beginning.

Either way, none of this matters. This thread was supposed to be about the bliss of a WVU NC in the same year of a Skins SB victory.

What's funny is that there doesn't seem to be much dissention in the fact that WVU has a great shot at the title.

[PleaseBlitz]

It's easy. WVU was better at the end of the year than they were the beginning, as their freshman position players adjusted to the college game. This is evidenced by their rank at the END of the season, as opposed to their rank at the beginning.

VT fans usually black out from December on. Its a defense mechanism.

Either way, none of this matters. This thread was supposed to be about the bliss of a WVU NC in the same year of a Skins SB victory.

What's funny is that there doesn't seem to be much dissention in the fact that WVU has a great shot at the title.

Yeah, but the Big East sucks so.................?

[Major Harris]

please, vtech fans, for your own sake, quit. you are being owned in a way that i rarely see on this board.

diggs and 'eersskins for co-mvp!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Diggs]

You kinda make my point for me here. Filling your conference with team who recently jumped to D1 isn't much of an argument for a quality conference. I always think that if you beat a team soundly you can say you are a better team. FSU and Miami were better than VT last year. I don't know how you say your are better than a team that beat you on your home field by 17pts. It's not like I'm saying you lost to a team VT beat so that means VT is better. This was head to head and even a home game for WVU. No arguments that I can see hold any water. We'll have to determine next year differently since WVU is off the hook head to head.

Well, the point was the Big East had no choice but to go after these programs to fill their conference because of the way everything was handled by the ACC and the benedict arnold of universities. But you'll notice that things are working quite fine by that approach which is VERY promising. Just because team A beats team B, it doesn't mean team A is better than team B. that's why sports have playoff systems and rankings set up. Duke loses to FSU or other crappy bball schools every year, but does that make those schools better bball teams than duke? of course not. btw, duke sucks.

Moral of the story: Redskins AND WVU have great shots at winning their respective championships this year!

[Major Harris]

please, vtech fans, for your own sake, quit. you are being owned in a way that i rarely see on this board.

diggs and 'eersskins for co-mvp!!!!!!!!!!!!!

you guys are wise to listen to my sage advice.

[hokie4redskins]

you guys are wise to listen to my sage advice.

Sage advice, huh?

thing is, i don't think i bring much to the table.

Ok, whatever. You get your panties all in a wad at the mere mention of a WVU critique by the fan of a team that whooped you. Yeah, you guys aren't insecure at all.



This was the "vehemence" I was referring to in my first post. But, this is rehashing the same BS and I'm trying to avoid the same pointless, vicious cycle.

[Diggs]

please, vtech fans, for your own sake, quit. you are being owned in a way that i rarely see on this board.

diggs and 'eersskins for co-mvp!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Whoo hoo! I couldn't have done it without my one of a kind passion for WVU athletics as well as my enjoyment to point out the shortcomings in Hokie logic and those who support them.



"......but today, I am the greatest!"

[Jody]

Come on, you don't give Beamer any respect for booting out his starting QB, especially without a blue chipper behind him?

No respect here. Beamer should've benched his ass the second he stomped on that kid from L'ville, Bowl game or not.

[The Evil Genius]

No respect here. Beamer should've benched his ass the second he stomped on that kid from L'ville, Bowl game or not.

Especially with the other problems that Vick had been associated with (the 1 year alcohol/underage suspension) and the immature gestures to the crowd in Mo'town.

But, I can't blame Beamer sticking with the only QB who get them a win in the Gator Bowl against a team playing a 2nd string QB.

[EersSkins05]

please, vtech fans, for your own sake, quit. you are being owned in a way that i rarely see on this board.

diggs and 'eersskins for co-mvp!!!!!!!!!!!!!

First of all, I'd like to thank Jesus...

[Inxsive]

Well, the point was the Big East had no choice but to go after these programs to fill their conference because of the way everything was handled by the ACC and the benedict arnold of universities. But you'll notice that things are working quite fine by that approach which is VERY promising. Just because team A beats team B, it doesn't mean team A is better than team B. that's why sports have playoff systems and rankings set up. Duke loses to FSU or other crappy bball schools every year, but does that make those schools better bball teams than duke? of course not. btw, duke sucks.

Moral of the story: Redskins AND WVU have great shots at winning their respective championships this year!

I love how you call them benedict arnolds when WVU would have jumped at the chance but they wern't invited. West Virginia didn't bring anything to the table. They are located in a depressed state with more meth labs that people with 6 figure incomes. Why do you think things are working fine with adding teams like you mentioned. The only thing that it did was give WVU a cushy schedule. Last time I checked D1 doesn't have a playoff so I don't know why you brought that up. Maybe it's because several of the Big East teams belong in D2 where they do have a playoff. I'm not saying that WVU doesn't have a shot at winning alot of games, with the teams on their schedule they better.

Wow, I just looked at their schedule, it's worse than I thought. They play ONE team in the top 40. Here is a rundown of each team they play in terms of their ranking;

101
55
78
90
113
75
18
86
73
56
45
Also, Eastern Washington is not even a D1 team so they don't even show up in the top 119.

If you average the Big east rankings it comes out to 59th. That is horrible! Well if WVU can go undefeated then you better hope that two teams don't because with that weak ass schedule they will lose any tie. In fact I bet there will be some teams with one loss ranked above them.

[Major Harris]

I love how you call them benedict arnolds when WVU would have jumped at the chance but they wern't invited. West Virginia didn't bring anything to the table. They are located in a depressed state with more meth labs that people with 6 figure incomes. Why do you think things are working fine with adding teams like you mentioned. The only thing that it did was give WVU a cushy schedule. Last time I checked D1 doesn't have a playoff so I don't know why you brought that up. Maybe it's because several of the Big East teams belong in D2 where they do have a playoff. I'm not saying that WVU doesn't have a shot at winning alot of games, with the teams on their schedule they better.

Wow, I just looked at their schedule, it's worse than I thought. They play ONE team in the top 40. Here is a rundown of each team they play in terms of their ranking;

101
55
78
90
113
75
18
86
73
56
45
Also, Eastern Washington is not even a D1 team so they don't even show up in the top 119.

If you average the Big east rankings it comes out to 59th. That is horrible! Well if WVU can go undefeated then you better hope that two teams don't because with that weak ass schedule they will lose any tie. In fact I bet there will be some teams with one loss ranked above them.

your stereotypes show your true colors.
that, and the fact that you're a gmu alum talking smack in a wv thread on behalf of vtech. assclown.

[Inxsive]

your stereotypes show your true colors.
that, and the fact that you're a gmu alum talking smack in a wv thread on behalf of vtech. assclown.

Assclown...lol...I guess some stereotypes hold true. My fault, I'm sure WV doesn't have many meth labs and it's a hign income state, silly me. Why do you think a GMU grad talking smack on behalf of vtech is a problem. Not Hillbilly enough? No comment of the weak ass schedule? You can't admit that it is extremely weak?