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    Default Reid calls language proposal racist

    You can't vote Republican because they're screwing the pooch so badly, and yet the alternative is nitwits like this


    http://www.washingtontimes.com/natio...4129-1805r.htm


    Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid called a proposal to make English the official language "racist" on the Senate floor yesterday.
    "This amendment is racist. I think it's directed basically to people who speak Spanish," the Democrat said during the already tense debate over immigration reform.
    Moments later, the Senate approved the measure on a 63-34 vote. Virtually all Republicans were joined by 11 Democrats to approve the largely symbolic amendment. Immediately following that vote, the Senate approved a second amendment, declaring on a 58-39 vote that English is the "common and unifying language."
    Such proposals enjoy overwhelming support among American voters.
    A poll by Zogby International earlier this year found that 84 percent of Americans say English should be the official language of government operations. The same poll found that 77 percent of Hispanics agree.
    And it's a bipartisan issue, according to the poll, which found that 92 percent of Republicans and 82 percent of Democrats approve making English the country's official language.
    Mr. Reid's charge of racism caused a stir of whispers in the Senate chamber and gallery, and Sen. James M. Inhofe, the Oklahoma Republican who offered the amendment, was clearly offended.
    As Mr. Reid continued his floor speech, an aide passed him a note on a folded sheet of yellow legal paper. After reading the note, the Nevada Democrat tried to clarify his remarks.
    "Even though I feel this amendment is unfair, I don't in any way suggest that Jim Inhofe is a racist," Mr. Reid said. "I don't believe that at all. I just believe that this amendment has, to some people, that connotation -- not that he's a racist, but that the amendment is."
    It's certainly not the first time that Mr. Reid has used stark language in the debate over immigration.
    "Our federal wallet is stretched to the limit by illegal aliens getting welfare, food stamps, medical care and other benefits without paying taxes," he said in 1993. "These programs were not meant to entice freeloaders and scam artists from around the world."
    Earlier this year, Mr. Reid confessed on the Senate floor that his anti-immigrant fervor "mostly lasted about a week or two" before his wife brought him around to the more open position he holds today.
    But nearly a year after his "freeloaders" statement, Mr. Reid was on the Senate floor criticizing immigrants again and worrying about their cultural impact.
    "We must reduce the annual admissions of legal immigrants to more moderate levels in order to provide for a better country -- both environmentally and socially -- in the years to come," Mr. Reid said, according to a June 16, 1994, report by States News Service.
    When Mr. Inhofe took to the floor yesterday, he didn't address Mr. Reid over his charge of racism but did defend his proposal.
    "I think it's an insult to Hispanics to say that we are not going to have English as the national language because you're not capable of operating and speaking and succeeding in a country like this," he said.

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    While I have never liked Reid, he is calling a spade a spade. Why make a superflous law that potentially expands the grip of the goverment to language?
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    Default Re: Reid calls language proposal racist

    Quote Originally Posted by Sarge
    You can't vote Republican because they're screwing the pooch so badly, and yet the alternative is nitwits like this
    Bingo. As soon as the Republicans dismount I'm sure that a Democrat will hop right on the ol pooch. Maybe the pooch himself needs to be a candidate.

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    Reid is such an intellectual giant. I understand why he has a leadership position in the supposedly greatest legislative body in the greatest country on earth.

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    My question is

    Why now?
    Why We Fight

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    Quote Originally Posted by luckydevil
    My question is

    Why now?
    Purely politics

    Repubs can vote for something they and the country want and get to crow about it.

    Dems can vote for it knowing this whole cluster**** is never going to pass but can still say they are voting for what the majority wants

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    Actually Sarge, the way to get these nitwits out of office is to pick them off in a Republican primary. Send money to viable primary opponents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fergasun
    Actually Sarge, the way to get these nitwits out of office is to pick them off in a Republican primary. Send money to viable primary opponents.
    That's one way, but a lot of folks I know are already cutting off the spigot.

    WHat's more liekely to happen is that conservatives just won't show up this fall, handing Dems victory by default

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    English should be the official language of the US!! I don't see any acceptable alternative. Am I missing something here?

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    Quote Originally Posted by skinsbuck
    English should be the official language of the US!! I don't see any acceptable alternative. Am I missing something here?

    I dunno. How about the fact that we rose in 200 years to be the greatest nation in the history of the earth without ever needing an "official language" before?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Predicto
    I dunno. How about the fact that we rose in 200 years to be the greatest nation in the history of the earth without ever needing an "official language" before?

    The colonies that founded this nation were all British colonies therefore by default our language was and has been English. There was no need to set an "official language" at that time. And just because we didn't "need" it before doesn't mean we dont need it now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SkinsOrlando
    The colonies that founded this nation were all British colonies therefore by default our language was and has been English. There was no need to set an "official language" at that time. And just because we didn't "need" it before doesn't mean we dont need it now.
    I second that. If the illegal immigrants wanted to be American's soooo badly, they would learn the language of the country and thus the US Senate wouldn't be debating whether to make English the official language. End of discussion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SkinsOrlando
    The colonies that founded this nation were all British colonies therefore by default our language was and has been English. There was no need to set an "official language" at that time. And just because we didn't "need" it before doesn't mean we dont need it now.
    Right, but immigration didn't suddenly stop. The Irish, German, Italian, Polish, Swedes, etc all assimilated without English being the official language.
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    Quote Originally Posted by skinsbuck
    English should be the official language of the US!! I don't see any acceptable alternative. Am I missing something here?
    It already is the unofficial official language. If it was a critical national policy choice then it would have been dealt with long ago. This is just weenie politicians on both sides posturing because they operate in a leadership vacuum.

    Next b.s. issue: A ban on gay marriage.

    Congress fiddles while Rome burns.

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    Default Re: Reid calls language proposal racist

    Quote Originally Posted by SkinsOrlando
    The colonies that founded this nation were all British colonies therefore by default our language was and has been English. There was no need to set an "official language" at that time. And just because we didn't "need" it before doesn't mean we dont need it now.
    Our language by default remains English and it's not threatened in any way.

    There were a heck of a lot of German speakers here at one time, and Italian speakers, and whatever - the nation didn't fall apart just because we didn't go out of our way to penalize them.

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