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[TK]

If they get Brock, then they really need to get Heyman back with him.

[KDawg]

If they get Brock, then they really need to get Heyman back with him.

I guess he has been talking' trash about The Rock on twitter. Could be a potential storyline for Brock/Rock for next years WM.

Even when I didn't watch wrestling for a period of, oh, 7 years (Rock's absence), I still got WrestleMania pretty much every year.

[Forehead]

Wow, the Undertaker in a legitimately good match.

[spjunkies]

Ha A-Rod is there with Torrie Wilson. Where is Clooney and Kiebler?

[BRAVEONTHEWARPATH93]

Cena talked all that **** and still did the job...hopefully he turns heel tomorrow night

[d0ublestr0ker0ll]

Hey, that was a good match! Rock has still got it. Like Rocky Maiavia in there.

[NewCliche21]

Most "Meh" Wrestlemania ever. Aside from the *INCREDIBLE* Undertaker/HHH/HBK match, the rest was just "meh."

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If they get Brock, then they really need to get Heyman back with him.

Very disappointed that he didn't even show. Expected him to get Punk DQ'd after that rule was put into place and then three-way for a title between Lesnar, Punk, and Jericho in Chicago (potential Hart-like screwjob angle) with the no DQ matches.

Missed a major one there, WWE.

[spjunkies]

My guess is they just want to hold off on Lesnar until Monday so he can start a fresh program with someone.

[OU_skins]

I got home in time for the Rock/Cena match...gotta say I was pretty entertained. I caught Raw every once in a while leading up so I was in on the hype. But I'm not a huge WWE fan. I watched last year's entire show and I thought it was pretty disappointing. I think the Rock and Cena lived up to the hype from my noob perspective this year.

[RichmondRedskin88]

This Wrestlemania reminds me why I'm not into Raw and Smackdown as I use to be. The Undertaker match was good but everything else kind of stunk. I'm also tired of the upcoming/ new generation superstars taking backseat to past wrestlers. Cena needed to win that match. Rock is gone from the WWE and will be back in movies. All that match did was say that the past WWE/WWF was better than the current one. WWE absolutely beats down its young superstars for celebrities and past popular superstars. How can WWE plan for the future if it continues to live in the past?

[spjunkies]

This Wrestlemania reminds me why I'm not into Raw and Smackdown as I use to be. The Undertaker match was good but everything else kind of stunk. I'm also tired of the upcoming/ new generation superstars taking backseat to past wrestlers. Cena needed to win that match. Rock is gone from the WWE and will be back in movies. All that match did was say that the past WWE/WWF was better than the current one. WWE absolutely beats down its young superstars for celebrities and past popular superstars. How can WWE plan for the future if it continues to live in the past?

The Rock is already committed to doing at least two more matches (Summerslam, Wrestlemania 2013) and Cena losing makes sense for his character if they play it right he can turn into an epic heel.

[RichmondRedskin88]

The Rock is already committed to doing at least two more matches (Summerslam, Wrestlemania 2013) and Cena losing makes sense for his character if they play it right he can turn into an epic heel.

When will people get he's not going to turn heel? He's liked by some and hated by others. Cena won't turn full heel. People been thinking it would happen for years now. Only reason Rock won is his celebrity hollywood status and the match being in Miami. If you haven't noticed the hollywood/celebrity always wins(Mayweather, Trump, Sumo wrestler against Big Show,etc). Celebrity always wins. I knew before watching Wrestlemania that they would never let a celebrity lose. Soon as Rock kicked out of the second Attitude Adjustment I knew Cena would lose.

[spjunkies]

When will people get he's not going to turn heel? He's liked by some and hated by others. Cena won't turn full heel. People been thinking it would happen for years now. Only reason Rock won is his celebrity hollywood status and the match being in Miami. If you haven't noticed the hollywood/celebrity always wins(Mayweather, Trump, Sumo wrestler against Big Show,etc). Celebrity always wins. I knew before watching Wrestlemania that they would never let a celebrity lose. Soon as Rock kicked out of the second Attitude Adjustment I knew Cena would lose.

I said if they were smart they would turn him full heel because he is beyond stale, but we know they don't make the best choices. And if they are setting up a trilogy like it appears they are going to do Cena will get his revenge.

[RichmondRedskin88]

I said if they were smart they would turn him full heel because he is beyond stale, but we know they don't make the best choices. And if they are setting up a trilogy like it appears they are going to do Cena will get his revenge.

Having to watch three Cena-Rock matches might be as painful as this match tonight. I hate to say it but Cena definitely carried that match. Rock didn't look like his old self and his moves looked pretty bad sometimes(especially the Rock Bottoms). If I have to see Cena carry two more matches only to job to Rock its gonna be pretty damn painful. To me it was like watching a young established superstar taking on a superstar that can't accept his time has seemly come and gone. I loved the Rock growing up but seeing him pop up time to time for a few matches seems pointless to me. Its like people desperately hanging on to the Attitude Era. Cena might be viewed as a cream puff by some for his repeat moves and such but at least he is there every night and doesn't try to play the crowd. Rock at one time could be a heel but that will never happen again due to history and hollywood. Cena will have his haters(mainly attitude era fans) and his supporters(Kids and young people). Honestly I don't completely understand the Cena hate. He was asked to become the face of the WWE. Is he suppose to say no? Anyone who knows about the wrestling business knows you say yes to opportunities or you will find yourself on the unemployment line. People were fine with Rock as the face because of the era he wrestled in(trash talking & great storylines). Cena is the face of a WWE that tones down language, storylines, and targets young crowd. Hell Cena use to write his lines but now they make him read a prepared script. The fact is the hate for the New WWE is directed at Cena because he's the face of it. Everyone loves Rock cuz they remember what era he's from. Change what era Rock-Cena wrestles in and we'll see who gets booed.

[spjunkies]

Having to watch three Cena-Rock matches might be as painful as this match tonight. I hate to say it but Cena definitely carried that match. Rock didn't look like his old self and his moves looked pretty bad sometimes(especially the Rock Bottoms). If I have to see Cena carry two more matches only to job to Rock its gonna be pretty damn painful. To me it was like watching a young established superstar taking on a superstar that can't accept his time has seemly come and gone. I loved the Rock growing up but seeing him pop up time to time for a few matches seems pointless to me. Its like people desperately hanging on to the Attitude Era. Cena might be viewed as a cream puff by some for his repeat moves and such but at least he is there every night and doesn't try to play the crowd. Rock at one time could be a heel but that will never happen again due to history and hollywood. Cena will have his haters(mainly attitude era fans) and his supporters(Kids and young people). Honestly I don't completely understand the Cena hate. He was asked to become the face of the WWE. Is he suppose to say no? Anyone who knows about the wrestling business knows you say yes to opportunities or you will find yourself on the unemployment line. People were fine with Rock as the face because of the era he wrestled in(trash talking & great storylines). Cena is the face of a WWE that tones down language, storylines, and targets young crowd. Hell Cena use to write his lines but now they make him read a prepared script. The fact is the hate for the New WWE is directed at Cena because he's the face of it. Everyone loves Rock cuz they remember what era he's from. Change what era Rock-Cena wrestles in and we'll see who gets booed.

There is no question that Cena would have to carry the match since Rock hasn't been in a singles match in 9 years he was bound to be rusty. I think the guy did a hell of a job in the match for this being his first real match in forever. Cena is no spring chicken himself since he's only like 5 years younger than Rocky so it's not like he went over Cody Rhodes or something.

I think the Rock did bulk up too much and if he does indeed Wrestle at Summerslam he should be 10-15 pounds lighter and that should help his pacing tremendously.