Jeremy Shockey on NFL Total Access

[floydfurillo]

Shockey was asked by the NTA crew who was the most important free agent acquisition by the Giants this offseason. Without hestitation he said Lavar Arrington. quote:

"He's back"

"He rehabing his knee smart"

"You can see the athleticism"

"He's a man on a mission"

I predict Redskin's fans will be reckoning the fact that the defensive coaches (Williams but mainly Blache and Lindsay) weren't able to find a way to include him in the "packages". I am sure the Giants coaches will find a way.

[Warhead36]

And whats he going to say after Lavar blows his first big assignment?

[Skin'emAlive]

im not scared cause our defense will still dominate... you know... just like it did when we didnt have him the last 2 years.

[IM A REDSKIN FAN]

has he said a bad word yet?

Because yesterday he was on the Best Damn Sports Show and every sentence he said a bad word.


What a dirty mouth he has....and he says to much foul language....

[chow184]

[JoeSkins]

I'm a little scared of Arrington to be absolutely truthful. A change of scenery and motivation will both do him wonders. Even if he does blow assignments, he also causes some major problems to offenses when he's on his game. I'm just glad they moved him to the strong side where he'll have a helmet near him on almost every down.

[stoney26]

i hate shockey....hes so smug and cocky. He isnt even that good. F the giants, F Lavar Faggington, F Shockey the SHead.

[Warhead36]

We need a clip of Shockey arguing to the ref while Marshall picks that pass off his hands.

[whitskins]

It's not about whether GW and Lindsey could find a package to feature Lavar. That's a very narrow view of what happened here.

For the Redskins, it was about tying 8-12 million dollars worth of your salary cap ANNUALLY to a player with serious knee problems, a severe tendency to cry and whine to the press at the worst times, and the inability to fully buy into his coach's program.

Of course Lavar looks great now. It's the preseason. But there is a reason why Lavar waited so long until he allowed a physical and MRI to be taken on his knee. There's a reason why he signed a deal that ties up all of his cash in incentives. He's far from a sure thing and his knees will have his career at risk from now until he retires.

If he plays great for the Giants then good for him and good for them. I'm very confident that we are still a better team regardless. But even the Lavar of old wasn't worth what he was due to make for the Redskins. Couple that with the fact that he's barely played the past two seasons and I'll gladly take Archuleta, Carter, Lloyd, and Randle El with the money we were due to pay Arrington for the next several years.

[floydfurillo]

It's not about whether GW and Lindsey could find a package to feature Lavar. That's a very narrow view of what happened here.

Thats not a narrow view...thats what came from the coaches mouths themselves. When he originally came back, the line was that the only package he could get in was on 3rd down as a rush end. Then when they said he had "showed them" what they needed to see in practice, they put him in on 1st and 2nd downs and took him out on 3rd downs the very packgage that he was initially only trusted in (using Clemons as the rush end who got little pressure on the QB)

My narrow view is the only one that came from the Redskins. No one said anything about salary.

And as for the money that we overpaid for the players mentioned. This will only hurt us down the road when it comes to resign key players like a Samuels or a Jansen or a Portis or a Cooley and they will go the way of a Davis or a Bailey or a Pierce and people will forget about the money that was tied up years before and call these players unloyal for leaving the Skins.

[whitskins]

Thats not a narrow view...thats what came from the coaches mouths themselves. When he originally came back, the line was that the only package he could get in was on 3rd down as a rush end. Then when they said he had "showed them" what they needed to see in practice, they put him in on 1st and 2nd downs and took him out on 3rd downs the very packgage that he was initially only trusted in (using Clemons as the rush end who got little pressure on the QB)

My narrow view is the only one that came from the Redskins. No one said anything about salary.

And as for the money that we overpaid for the players mentioned. This will only hurt us down the road when it comes to resign key players like a Samuels or a Jansen or a Portis or a Cooley and they will go the way of a Davis or a Bailey or a Pierce and people will forget about the money that was tied up years before and call these players unloyal for leaving the Skins.

Yes, it is a very narrow view because you ignore obvious circumstances that were clearly huge factors into Lavar's departure. First of all, I'm familiar with the role Lavar played on this team last year, but thanks. Second, your argument is completely weak if you're going to go by just what the Redskins coaches said about Lavar in public. Just because the coaches didn't come out and SAY Lavar was grossly overpaid and a huge distraction in the papers means they didn't think he was? Please... If that's the only explanation you can come up with then you are either ignoring or not understanding key aspects of the situation...

...Which you later prove by regurgitating the misinformed rhetoric regarding the salaries of our new players. If you had a grasp on the way the Redskins manage their cap (which you obviously don't because you claim money played no part in why Lavar was released) you would realize that each of the new free agents' contracts are very cap friendly for the first three years. The years after that the base salaries increase significantly and they can be restructured on a year by year basis, as the salary cap increases every year. The Redskins signing method works because it gives the team a lot of flexibility and forces the players to earn the backend of their contracts. If you want to simply look at the 30 million that is reported in the headline of each story, then you're either missing or ignoring some key information.

And again, you stumble when claiming that the Skins won't be able to resign their present stars because of their cap management. First of all, you should already know that Portis and Samuels are still in the early years of very long extentions that they already signed with the team. Jansen, Cooley, and at some point Taylor (who will probably demand an Ed Reed type deal in a couple years) are in line for new deals in the not so distant future, but the team clearly knows this and has plans for them. Maybe we won't be able to keep everybody, but it won't be because we crippled the team's cap with our salary management. Lavar's contract was a cap killer, the new deals that we are signing guys to are not. The reason for this is the new guys are players who have yet to peak and will outplay their contracts in DC (just like Griffin, Washington, Moss, etc have), or they will be without an overflow of dead money against our cap (which Lavar and Coles' contracts left us with). Lavar, while brilliant at times, was overrated from the very beginning, and never lived up to a contract that paid him to be Ray Lewis. He didn't come close and eventually became something of a liability, so he had to go for a variety of reasons.

If you love Lavar so much that you're willing to convince yourself that our team of stellar defensive coaches is too stupid to find a way to use Lavar in an effective way, then feel free. However, that view is wrong and to believe it is to simply ignore all the positive traits that Gibbs and company have brought to this team in order to turn it from a league laughingstock to a legitimate contender.

[RonBurgundy&Gold]

I don't want to see it happen, but I do think Lavar is motivated to make things happen. Say what you will about the guy, but he did love it here and you know he will have it out for us. No, I'm not worried he will take out our qb or win a game single-handedly over us, but I do think he will have an impact for the Giants.

I think both sides won, Lavar gets a fresh start and gets to play us twice a year, and we lost the big contract and all the drama that surrounded his situation.

[Dirk Diggler]

Shockey was asked by the NTA crew who was the most important free agent acquisition by the Giants this offseason. Without hestitation he said Lavar Arrington. quote:

"He's back"

"He rehabing his knee smart"

"You can see the athleticism"

"He's a man on a mission"

I predict Redskin's fans will be reckoning the fact that the defensive coaches (Williams but mainly Blache and Lindsay) weren't able to find a way to include him in the "packages". I am sure the Giants coaches will find a way.

Shockey is now evaluating the talent eh? He has an IQ of about 68 so I wouldnt place much stock in the things he has to say.

[Wicked99]

he also said something to the effect of "you can't buy championships.... washington has proved that many times". i hope either taylor or archuleta put the arrogant little **** to sleep at least once this season.

[oisn1]

he also said something to the effect of "you can't buy championships.... washington has proved that many times". i hope either taylor or archuleta put the arrogant little **** to sleep at least once this season.

Seriously, Shockey says a lot of things. Remember all those things he was saying to the ref while Marshall was intercepting the ball?