Anything MMA, except thumb wrestling

[StillUnknown]

I agree, a good BJJ match is a physical chess match but you could make the same argument for two dominate Muay Thai fighters. It all comes down to preference I guess. I think my dream match would be a good combination of the two, but I think it's fair to say that most MMA fans fall in once of those two categories, fans of great striking matches or fans of great grappling matches.

i agree it essentially comes down to preference. i have had the chance to actually train (very little ) submission wrestling, so i'm kind of partial to submissions myself


on that note UFC needs to sign Aoki to their lw division, he could be one of the only fighters the crowd won't boo when it goes to the ground

[Zguy28]

I apologize if this has already been mentioned in this thread, but has anybody watched the "human weapon" show on History Channel?

They had a great episode on Escrima last night, which is mostly known for stick fighting. They demonstrated how it was more than that, and also involved grappling. There was one move that was actually scary how easy it would be to kill or paralyze a guy who attempted to take you down.

http://www.history.com/minisite.do?mini_id=54986

[#98QBKiller]

i agree it essentially comes down to preference. i have had the chance to actually train (very little ) submission wrestling, so i'm kind of partial to submissions myself


on that note UFC needs to sign Aoki to their lw division, he could be one of the only fighters the crowd won't boo when it goes to the ground

That's exactly why I'm drawn more to striking. I took a mini-series (note the word "mini" ) of kickboxing seminars and instruction my senior year in college. I got into watching Muay Thai a few years ago and I am just now shopping around different gyms to start taking some regular classes at. I'd like to take some BJJ classes eventually too.

There wasn't much in the form of great martial arts centers where I went to college at in NC, I've got a little more of a selection in the DC area though.

Man, if Aoki gets signed to UFC, I might actually purchase a PPV.

[Sebowski]

The title should be vacated. Sherk and Franca fired permanently. Lets be honest, Sherk is a boring fighter anyways, and Franca is not going to be a great LW with his wild punches. Good riddance to both.

And the title should be BJ vs Gomi....Oh that's right, Gomi will probably end up in K-1. Another brilliant signing by Dana White! Maybe bring back Dumbass Diaz?

Fired? You're crazy. And so should Shawn Merriman

Franca admitted he took them to help him heal in time to fight. It was the only way a training injury would heal in time for him not to pull out of the fight. That is exactly would steroids by doctor's prescription are designed to do. Steroids can be a wonderful drug if taken correctly. I don;t think we can hold steroids for the purpose of healing quickly against athletes anymore than we should hold Ben-Gay or ice packs against them. Not to mention the cortisone shots.

Sherk said he didn't know he took it. Maybe he did, maybe he didn't. Let's see how the appeal goes before we fire him.

Gomi is no longer an elite LW. Not top 5. He hasn't been fighting the top of the heap. He got his ass kicked by Diaz, pot or no pot. I would take Stevenson, Florian, Franca, and Fisher against him. Maybe even Guida or Griffin in a cage. Huerta would even give him a run for his money.

And BJ has already destroyed him once. The fight wouldn't make sense for BJ The Great (he rececntly said he wanted a new nickname. I'll try to start this one).

I would love to see a LW GP for the vacant title. Imagine all the guys I just mentioned with some more Pride guys like Aoki and Hansen. That would be incredible. But it will never happen. So I think BJ The Great should go back to 170 and dominate for a while, and I don;t know what they could do with the LW title if Sherk's appeal doesn't go his way. Sherk won it while vacant on his his fight in the division against a guy was 4-2 with the biggest win being against Sam Stout. I don't how how much credibility they could draw up for another one-shot match for a vacant title. I think they have to do some sort of tournament to maintain respect for the title. Even if it means just a four-man bracket.

[Sebowski]

That's exactly why I'm drawn more to striking. I took a mini-series (note the word "mini" ) of kickboxing seminars and instruction my senior year in college. I got into watching Muay Thai a few years ago and I am just now shopping around different gyms to start taking some regular classes at. I'd like to take some BJJ classes eventually too.

There wasn't much in the form of great martial arts centers where I went to college at in NC, I've got a little more of a selection in the DC area though.

Man, if Aoki gets signed to UFC, I might actually purchase a PPV.

Every place that teaches BJJ will offer you at least the first class for free. Some will give you a week or more for free. At least check out one class if you're interested. You don't even have to look for the best one. Just take the first free class you can attend; go from there. Or you can look for a place that teaches "MMA" as a separate class. I've taken a couple of those. They do striking, takedowns, and submissions.

I think my favorite thing to watch is elite submission grappling. That said, I'd take a C- striking match over a B submission match.

[herrmag]

Fired? You're crazy. And so should Shawn Merriman

Yes. They both should.

Franca admitted he took them to help him heal in time to fight. It was the only way a training injury would heal in time for him not to pull out of the fight. That is exactly would steroids by doctor's prescription are designed to do. Steroids can be a wonderful drug if taken correctly. I don;t think we can hold steroids for the purpose of healing quickly against athletes anymore than we should hold Ben-Gay or ice packs against them. Not to mention the cortisone shots.

Sorry, I can't help but completely disagree with you. Number one, what if Franca fought a guy that injured himself in training? Franca dopes to heal more quickly, but the other guy doesn't. Advantage Franca. And comparing anabolic steroids to ice packs and Ben-gay is going above and beyond a stretch. I can see a slight argument with cortisone, but even still, that's a stretch. By the way, has an athlete ever NOT had an excuse?

Banned substances (and ILLEGAL substances, which they are) are against the rules regardless of my feelings, your feelings, or anyone's feelings.

Sherk said he didn't know he took it. Maybe he did, maybe he didn't. Let's see how the appeal goes before we fire him.

Never heard that excuse before (e.g. didn't know he took it)....Besides, when I posted, that was before he announced his appeal (which he'll most likely lose, but I will give him until then to announce that he should be fired). MMA is still fighting the sports "powers that be" for legitimacy. The last thing they needed was for their LW Champion to be caught doping, not to mention having a fight where BOTH Fighters were busted. They need to be made an example of so as to prevent tarnishing the purity of the sport (ala boxing, baseball, Tour de France Sorry, couldn't help myself with the last one.)

Gomi is no longer an elite LW. Not top 5. He hasn't been fighting the top of the heap. He got his ass kicked by Diaz, pot or no pot. I would take Stevenson, Florian, Franca, and Fisher against him. Maybe even Guida or Griffin in a cage. Huerta would even give him a run for his money.

I'd still put him in the top 5, so I guess I have to disagree with you again. He gassed against Diaz, plain and simple. He didn't prepare. He almost KO'd Diaz, don't forget that. And coincidentally, IMO there is no shame in losing to Nick. He's one hell of a fighter.

Gomi would destroy Franca, IMO. Franca would trade with him (at least initially), and unlike Sherk, Gomi can KO you with one punch. Stevenson would be a harder challenge. Florian might be able to beat him, but I still wouldn't guarantee it. It's a shame Gomi suffers from the same affliction as BJ; poor conditioning.

I would love to see a LW GP for the vacant title.

This is a great idea. I'd love to see it. But this is the UFC, and the puppet-master tends to be more motivated with personal grudges than what the fans really want to see. So fortunately we'll get to see Tito/Rashad 2 instead.

[#98QBKiller]

Every place that teaches BJJ will offer you at least the first class for free. Some will give you a week or more for free. At least check out one class if you're interested. You don't even have to look for the best one. Just take the first free class you can attend; go from there. Or you can look for a place that teaches "MMA" as a separate class. I've taken a couple of those. They do striking, takedowns, and submissions.

I think my favorite thing to watch is elite submission grappling. That said, I'd take a C- striking match over a B submission match.

Right now I'm looking at Lloyd Irvin's school. They actually have a free 20 day trial offer which I know that sounds like a McDojo type of place but they have a fight team and Lloyd Irvin's history is very impressive:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lloyd_Irvin


Anyone in the area heard anything about this place?:

http://novamma.com/

[StillUnknown]

WEC event on Sunday evening on Versus.

Paulo Filho vs. Joe Doerkson for the MW title

Carlos Condit vs. Brock Larson for the WW title

WEC put on a great show last time they were on TV, so i'm definitely checkin this one out. Good to see Filho back fighting tho.

[#98QBKiller]

WEC event on Sunday evening on Versus.

Paulo Filho vs. Joe Doerkson for the MW title

Carlos Condit vs. Brock Larson for the WW title

WEC put on a great show last time they were on TV, so i'm definitely checkin this one out. Good to see Filho back fighting tho.

I'm ready for Doug Marshall to defend the LW title again, that dude is a straight brawler and I wouldn't be surprised to see him in the UFC eventually.

[herrmag]

I'm spending a month out here in Cali for work. It's amazing how often I get to see WEC on regular cable (VS)! In my opinion, it is superior to the IFL. Decent fighters with well rounded skills.

That being said; Any fight fans in San Diego know where to go to watch the WEC fights? Apparently my hotel doesn't get it. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

EDIT: Let me rephrase. I was in Monterey earlier in the week, and had "vs" in my room. In my new hotel, I don't.

[#98QBKiller]

I'm spending a month out here in Cali for work. It's amazing how often I get to see WEC on regular cable (VS)! In my opinion, it is superior to the IFL. Decent fighters with well rounded skills.

That being said; Any fight fans in San Diego know where to go to watch the WEC fights? Apparently my hotel doesn't get it. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

EDIT: Let me rephrase. I was in Monterey earlier in the week, and had "vs" in my room. In my new hotel, I don't.

I see WEC on VS here in Arlington all the time. Do you not get it when you're home?

[#98QBKiller]

Also, I meant to post this:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...arch&plindex=0

It's a Randy Couture workout that's intense!

[herrmag]

I see WEC on VS here in Arlington all the time. Do you not get it when you're home?

I didn't even know we got VS in Arlington. What the hell channel is it?

[#98QBKiller]

I didn't even know we got VS in Arlington. What the hell channel is it?

It's channel 64 and there's a live WEC event on tomorrow evening with middleweight and welterweight championship bouts.

[herrmag]

It's channel 64 and there's a live WEC event on tomorrow evening with middleweight and welterweight championship bouts.

Yep, already know about the event, and will be watching. I'm very impressed with the caliber of fighters in the WEC....When is Filho going to come to the UFC?