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    Quote Originally Posted by d0ublestr0ker0ll View Post
    I know he got dropped by someone he was supposed to decapitate in K1, but he did just KO Mark Hunt. Yeah, Hunt is getting old, but even Cro Cop's temple tap couldn't KO Hunt. Bah, Manhoef would be a great answer to Anderson's standup if that chin wasn't suspect.
    I missed the Hunt fight. But, mixing K-1 and MMA, he has not looked very good the last few times I have seen him. He can drop anyone at any time though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StillUnknown View Post
    Wandy is an intriguing option if they want to put someone in who will play right into Anderson's counter-striking. it'll be hard to justify giving Wandy a shot on the basis of beating Franklin at a catchweight though. he'd have to win at least 2 at MW to get a shot IMO. honestly as a Wandy fan, i don't want to see that fight, it would get ugly for Wand real fast.
    As a Wandy guy myself, I don't know if I want to see it either. But it is the perfect remedy for A. Silva's current situation.

    You know Wandy is going to try his best to put on a show, win or lose. And I can just see people saying "See, I told you Anderson is not boring" after the fight.

    I think Wandy could win, but I would definitely favor Anderson. It would be a war, but it would probably end quickly either way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by d0ublestr0ker0ll View Post
    The only formula I can think of for a firmly-implanted champion like Silva, is to bring in Vitor Belfort, Manhoef, Mousassi, JZ, and let them get a few fights in while Silva takes on an expendable LHW. I know that's pretty much impossible, but it's not like a potential talent pool in MW isn't possible. The UFC has every god damned LHW there is, but middleweights are spread out all over the place.
    He needs someone that's going to come at him with everything and not just jump on his ass and try to pull guard.

    Okami should be a lot better fight because I think there's some bad blood there. I'm not sure why though. I just remember that Anderson kept going after Okami and the ref had to hold him back then Anderson got pissed as hell and started talking ****.

    Then the whole Wanderlei thing. Wandy had some harsh words for Anderson last week. If Wanderlei can somehow beat Rich Franklin in a dramatic fashion (and not get KTFO himself) I think he should get consideration for a shot at Anderson just because it would be such a big fight.

    I think the smack talk and bad blood from those two fights would light a fire under Anderson's ass and not have him doing lame dances for 25 minutes against an opponent that is obviously afraid to stand.

    Quote Originally Posted by lovetoaster View Post
    Hell, I forgot about Hendo...

    I think Hendo is going to be right in line for a shot if (and that is a relatively big if) he can get by Bisping.

    I think Hendo is the only guy that has really posed a threat to Anderson since he has been in the UFC. He just made a very costly mistake. I know he wants that fight again.

    So at least there are some intriguing possibilities that are lining up for A. Silva:

    Henderson
    W. Silva
    Okami
    Akiyama
    Bisping (if he gets by Hendo and picks up another win or two)
    Maia (if he convinces Dana he won't pul, a Leites)

    And we can't forget GSP, which I think will happen this year at some point.
    I think Hendo will take care of Bisping and may need to fight one more fight if they have Anderson/Okami set up. I think if they do the GSP fight it will be on one of the end of the year/beginning of the year supercards which would leave probably two more fights for Anderson and for GSP between now and then.

    GSP vs. Alves is going to be GSP's toughest to date IMO. BJ Penn couldn't match his size or strength so that wasn't as tough of a fight as some were thinking it would be.

    Alves is a lot bigger and a little stronger than GSP and isn't going to be taken down so easily. GSP is probably going to have to stand with him for a couple of rounds and hopes that Alves gases out. But I have a lot of confidence in Greg Jackson's ability to get GSP ready for this fight.

    One thing is for sure, if GSP wins this one in a dominating fashion he needs to be the #1 P4P in the world. Especially after Anderson's last two snoozefests of wins and after GSP dominated Penn like he did. The only other argument I could see would be Fedor if he dominates Barnett or whoever his opponent is this summer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StillUnknown View Post
    i don't think Anderson would ever fight Jacare, he helped him train for Leites. they're good friends i believe

    Manhoeff seems to be at a stage where he either KO's someone, or gets blasted himself

    Bisping will get a shot immediately if he beats Hendo, although i cant see one area MMA in which Bisping would be better than Anderson.

    Wandy is an intriguing option if they want to put someone in who will play right into Anderson's counter-striking. it'll be hard to justify giving Wandy a shot on the basis of beating Franklin at a catchweight though. he'd have to win at least 2 at MW to get a shot IMO. honestly as a Wandy fan, i don't want to see that fight, it would get ugly for Wand real fast.

    a rematch with Henderson seems to be the most likely of all scenarios, that doesn't include Anderson going up to 205.

    at 205 there are alot of great matchups:
    Luiz Cane
    Shogun
    Rampage
    Rashad (if he manages to beat Machida, Anderson would want revenge)
    Before you know it, every Brazilian is going to be friends and they'll never fight each other. There are QB's that are friends with defensive ends that have probably knocked the snot out of their nose before. Sure, it's fighting, but guys that don't know each other hug and praise one another after fights all the time. I'm sure you can stay friends.

    Cane sounds like a good fight, although I don't know if the UFC would want to deter one of their sound prospects.

    I'd like to see Shogun get another fight in before getting Silva. Let him get back in to really good shape. A prime Shogun is just as creative as Silva. This seems like a fight Dana would find a reason to put on. I think he offered Shogun a chance at Chuck after the Coleman fight because he thought Chuck would blast him through the arena. Wrong. However, he should realize Shogun is too marketable, and a fight with Silva could be a lose/lose situation for the company.

    Rampage? Hell yeah. But we all know he's healing up to take on the winner of the championship fight.

    Rashad and Anderson could be a good fight, but the likelihood of him getting tagged to death is high. I still think Evans poses a serious threat with those newly-found missiles. But if Forrest avoided them, Anderson probably can.

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    What's up with Rampage anyway...did he have his surgery yet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by #99QBKiller View Post
    One thing is for sure, if GSP wins this one in a dominating fashion he needs to be the #1 P4P in the world. Especially after Anderson's last two snoozefests of wins and after GSP dominated Penn like he did. The only other argument I could see would be Fedor if he dominates Barnett or whoever his opponent is this summer.
    even if GSP wins in dominating fashion, i still wouldn't rank him over Fedor. had he not lost to Serra, maybe, but that loss stands out, especially when Fedor doesn't have anything comparable. i know GSP got revenge on serra, but that first fight is a determining factor for me

    and given the fact that fedor has defeated top 5 competition in his last 2 fights in less than 5 combined minutes. he remains top dog on my list
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    Quote Originally Posted by StillUnknown View Post
    even if GSP wins in dominating fashion, i still wouldn't rank him over Fedor. had he not lost to Serra, maybe, but that loss stands out, especially when Fedor doesn't have anything comparable. i know GSP got revenge on serra, but that first fight is a determining factor for me

    and given the fact that fedor has defeated top 5 competition in his last 2 fights in less than 5 combined minutes. he remains top dog on my list

    It's still a toss-up between the two for me. Right Now I have Fedor as the top guy but a dominating win over Alves would probably push GSP over the top for me. The Serra loss was two years ago and he came back and totally dominated Serra in the rematch. No one held onto Anderson's flying heel-hook loss to Ryo Chonan like they have to the Serra loss for GSP and Anderson never avenged that loss.

    The only problem I have with Fedor is that he fought a lot of scrubs between the last Cro Cop bout and Tim Sylvia. Hong-Man-Choi, Zulu, Matt Lindland (not that he sucks but he has no business at HW) etc.

    But like you said Fedor has been very dominant over top-ten guys in his last two fights. If he does the same to Barnett then I think it's going to be tough to choose between he and GSP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by #99QBKiller View Post
    GSP vs. Alves is going to be GSP's toughest to date IMO. BJ Penn couldn't match his size or strength so that wasn't as tough of a fight as some were thinking it would be.
    I disagree. I think GSP will shoot right away, lean on the fence as much as possible, and keep shooting and leaning for 5 rounds.

    If GSP wins I think they set up Silva-GSP right away. They alluded to it in the post fight presser. Someone said something about GSP needing to take care of business. GSP has nobody at 170 to fight him after Alves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sebowski View Post
    I disagree. I think GSP will shoot right away, lean on the fence as much as possible, and keep shooting and leaning for 5 rounds.

    Don't forget his pre-fight grease-down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sebowski View Post
    GSP has nobody at 170 to fight him after Alves.
    I agree for the most part. There are no obvious contenders. Maybe Martin Kampmann but nothing exciting. Not until the UFC signs Jake Shields.

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    Quote Originally Posted by #99QBKiller View Post
    I agree for the most part. There are no obvious contenders. Maybe Martin Kampmann but nothing exciting. Not until the UFC signs Jake Shields.
    shields is overrated IMO

    his best attribute would be negated by GSP's. if Shields can't get the fight to the ground, he can't beat top flight comp
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    I went to Gamestop and picked up the demo for UFC Undisputed yesterday, much to talk about.

    Most notable thing, right off the bat, the fight clock is around 2x faster than normal. Rounds are roughly 2 1/2 minutes long. This is probably due to the fact that there seems to be a high probability of flash KOs. Out of 30 fights, I've only gone the distance twice. Both times I've had to stall on the ground and backpedal on the feet.

    Whether or not the pressed action is to your liking, it's certainly fast paced.

    Second thing to talk about is the complexity. I can already see gamers rushing to deem this game "bad" if they go in to it without knowing what to do. The tutorial is a must, an absolute must. Did I mention it's a must? It's a MUST. You'll probably have to go through it a few times, as well. The first thing I did when I downloaded the demo was have a fight. I almost concluded right there that this would end up being a little disappointing. After going through every part of the tutorial a couple times, I have a newly found anxiety for this game to come out.

    You can only play as Chuck or Shogun. It's a big tease but their styles clash enough to get a taste of just about every style but Judo.

    Submissions are mostly won and lost by pressing any button rapidly, coinciding with your fighter's skills on the ground. I assume some people won't like that.

    Bottom line, you quite literally have to do the tutorial. It's probably the only game I've ever come across that it's pretty much required.

    The graphics are very good, Shogun and Chuck's faces look frighteningly accurate. The ring girls' boobies bounce when walking around, and Buffer/Yamasaki are on target.

    As far as the commentating by Rogan and Goldie, it's great. Not a lot of repetitive calls, and fast reactions as what is happening in the fight. You can tell they put a lot in to that aspect of the game.

    I don't think I've ever been impressed with the way the crowd looks in a fighting game. Same goes with UFC Undisputed's crowd. Just a generic looking crowd, and it looks like everyone is a bit spread apart. Maybe they're trying to mimic an undercard bout. Not impressed with this part of the performance. The crowd sounds nice, at least.

    I know it's almost meaningless to grade a demo, but I've downloaded my share of them and this one stands out as the best so far. It gets an A. This will be a hard game to learn, so get the demo now and be prepared when it comes out.
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    Any chance they'll make it for wii?

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    Quote Originally Posted by #99QBKiller View Post
    Any chance they'll make it for wii?
    Don't think so.

    Can't wait to play this demo when it hits XBL. I've been reading these reviews and all of them are like "this game rocks once you learn it, especially the ground game". I can't wait to try out different fighters.

    Did they get their styles right? Like, does Chuck stand with that very open wide stance, or do they look similar when standing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Opiate-Zeo View Post
    Don't think so.

    Can't wait to play this demo when it hits XBL. I've been reading these reviews and all of them are like "this game rocks once you learn it, especially the ground game". I can't wait to try out different fighters.

    Did they get their styles right? Like, does Chuck stand with that very open wide stance, or do they look similar when standing?
    Um, I tried noticing that a few times and it didn't look overly accurate. Shogun's kicks look pretty accurate, and Chuck always throws his looping overhand right. But you'll notice he throws it way too often.
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